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I don't want to waste my precious time reading this outdated document based on kenyan sense of extremism, no more time for wasting discussing the strength of the kenyan army which in fact it should be nominated as the most weakest army in the globe,Sawa sawa
wewe ji console Just know that in Somalia we are working for the UN and thus we have to follow rules and regulations like caring about civilian population avoid dropping bombs in high target areas with animal/civilians well in a war between two countries we won't here is how the first time Somalia tried to mess with Kenya Read how it went down
Shifta War
Date 1963–1967
Location North Eastern Province , Kenya, Jubaland Somalia's
Result: NFD became North eastern province Kenya
Who fought who?
Kenya
Northern Frontier District Liberation Movement
Somalia
Casualties and losses
17,000 bandits
4,200+Somali Army killed
1700 Kenyans killed
The Shifta War (1963–1967) was a
secessionist conflict in which ethnic Somalis in the Northern Frontier District (NFD) of Kenya (a region that is and has historically been almost exclusively inhabited by ethnic Somalis[2][3][4] ) attempted to join with their fellow Somalis in a Greater Somalia. The Kenyan government named the conflict "shifta", after the
Somali word for "bandit", as part of a propaganda effort. The Kenyan
counter-insurgency General Service Units forced civilians into "protected villages" (essentially concentration camps )[5] as well as killing a large number of livestock kept by the
pastoralist Somalis.
The war ended in the late summer of 1967 when
Muhammad Haji Ibrahim Egal , Prime Minister of the Somali Republic, signed a ceasefire with Kenya
The province thus entered a period of running skirmishes between the
Kenyan Army and Somali-backed
Northern Frontier District Liberation Movement (NFDLM) insurgents. One immediate consequence was the signing in 1964 of a Mutual Defense Treaty between Jomo Kenyatta's administration and the government of Ethiopian Emperor Haile Selassie .
At the outset of the war, the government declared a State of Emergency. This consisted of allowing security forces to detain people up to 56 days without trial, confiscating the property of communities allegedly in retaliation for acts of violence, and restricting the right to assembly and movement. A 'prohibited zone' was created along the Somali border, and the death penalty was made mandatory for unauthorised possession of firearms. "Special courts" without guarantee of due process were also created. The northeast—declared a "special district" – was subject to nearly unfettered government control, including the authority to detain, arrest or forcibly move individuals or groups, as well as confiscate possessions and land. [14] However, as part of its effort to reassure the public, the Voice of Kenya was warned not to refer to the conflict as a "border dispute", while a special government committee decided to refer to the rebels as "shiftas" to minimise the political nature of the war.
Over the course of the war, the new Kenyan government became increasingly concerned by the growing strength of the Somali military. At independence, Somalia had a weak army of 5,000 troops that was incapable of exerting itself beyond its borders. However, in 1963, the Somali government appealed for assistance from the Soviet Union, which responded by lending it about $32 million. By 1969, 800 Somali officers had received Soviet training, while the army had expanded to over 23,000 well-equipped troops. The Kenyan fear that the insurgency might escalate into an all-out war with phalanxes of well-equipped Somali troops was coupled with a concern about the new insurgent tactic of planting land mines.
The story gets interesting
In 1967, Kenyan fears reached a fever pitch, and a special government committee was created to prepare for a full-scale war with Somalia. The government also adopted a policy of compulsory
villagization in the war-affected area. In 1967, the populace was moved into 14 Manyattas , villages that were guarded by troops (some referred to them as concentration camps). East Africa scholar Alex de Waal described the result as "a military assault upon the entire pastoral way of life," as enormous numbers of livestock were confiscated or killed, partly to deny their use by the guerrillas and partly to force the populace to abandon their flocks and move to a Manyatta.
Thus, made destitute, many nomads became an urban underclass, while educated Somalis in Kenya fled the country. [14] The government also removed the dynastic Sultans, who were the traditional leaders, with low-ranking government-appointed chiefs.
Anthropologist John Baxter returned to the village in
Somalia District in Somalia on the border with Kenya that he had researched in 1953, and had this to say about the few non-Somali minority tribes that lived at the time alongside the Somali majority:
The war thus marked the beginning of decades of violent crackdowns and repressive measures by the police in the NFD coupled with trumped-up allegations and unsubtle innuendo on the part of the Kenyan media charging the region's almost exclusively Somali inhabitants with "banditry" and other vice. [19]
A particularly violent incident referred to as the Wagalla Massacre took place in 1984, when the Kenyan provincial commissioner ordered security forces to gather 5,000 men of the Somali
Degodia clan onto the airstrip at
Wagalla , Wajir , open fire on them, and then attempt to hide their bodies. In the year 2000, the government admitted to having killed 380 people, though independent estimates put the toll at over 2,000. [20]
Not until late 2000 and the administration of Provincial Commissioner Mohammoud Saleh – a Somali—was there a serious drop in violent activities, partially attributable to Saleh's zero tolerance policy towards abuse by security forces. Ironically, Saleh himself was the target of the local police, having been arrested and booked several times. Wearing plain clothes, Saleh was apparently mistaken for an ordinary inhabitant of the NFD. [8]
upon his arrival to Somalia the anthropogist said
In 1982, only a few fortunate ones still maintained themselves through stock pastoralism. Some 40 percent of the Boran and Sakuye of the District had been driven to peri-urban shanty villages in the new administrative townships. There, they eked out a bare subsistence, hanging around the petrol stations for odd jobs, hawking for miraa , making illicit alcohol, engaging in prostitution and the like.
Their way of life had been totally destroyed by the Kenyan forces who forced every one in the Somali buffer zone into a manyatta, killed their animals and abolished the sultan dynasties.
Somalis led a really poor life compared to a decade ago before Somalia's independence
so MiTZ chezeeni Kenya tu Ila itafika siku mtapaguza pabaya ndio mtatambua kwanini Somalia ilianguka
Ethiopia and Kenya signed a military pact in 1966 ....in 1967 shift a war ended in 1969 there was a coup in Somalia this was followed by 14 other attempted coups and in 1991 THE MOTHER OF ALL COUPS was organised in Somalia the country has never recovered till today
We will play politics and propaganda wars with all of you and finish you off even before we invade and place you all in detention and take your land and make it Kenyan
just know that Kenya spends
2.21bn$ on it's security today
The Kenya NSIS spends 157mn $ yearly FYI NSIS is a spy agency
Tanzanias military spends 357mn$ budget yearly
our KWS -KENYA WILDLIFE SERVICE - out spends your military
msi muone simba amenyeshewa mkadhania ni paka
Fly into our space without permission then utajua kama zinafanya kazi ama laseriously, hii info yako unapata wapi?
anyway, mi ata sina haja ya kuingia hio link, hizo picha zite niko nazo tayari, mi hua constantly natafta habari kama hizo za vifaa vipya na va kitambo za nchi za kiafrica, hakuna lolote unaeza niambia.
Alafu unamaanisha nini ukisema eti hio a100 ndo best in the world? tayari hata kabla hatujatoka nje ya china, kuna A-200 ambayo iko na presion guided sam, kunayo more advanced A-300 ambayo ina strike miltiple concentrated targets kwa wakati mmoja, alafu hao wachina wenyewe walitest hio a100 na nyengine inaitwa PHLO3, na hio A-100 ili fail miserably, sasa kuna zile smerch next gen version za russia, marekani nao wanayo yenye sijui inaitwa M270 ambayo ni kali zaidi.
Alafu yes, mko na stockpile kubwa ya SAMs, hata mwaka jana mimi mwenyewe nilisema kitu kama hicho hapa hapa JF, lakini nyingi ni obsolete, ni enzi ya bado russia ilikua inajulikana kama USSR, alafu vile nyinyi mko na poor storage nyingi ya hizo SAM hata hazifanyi kazi, zimelala tu mahali hazifanyiwi testing wala nini, ndo maana hata mli shoot ndege yenu moja ya kivita kwa bahati mbaya, obsolete useless equipment...
ubora wa France ungeonekana Paris
ama Nice wakati watu 123 na 81 waliuliwa na terrorist
ubora wa UK ungeonekana pale kwa tube zao wakati terrorist waliuwa watu 200+
ubora wa uturuki ungeonekana
istanbul
Gaziantep
Ankara
wakati terrorist waliuwa watu 245,50,23
mtakaa hapo mkisema westgatr oooh ahhh jaribuni kuigeuka Kenya mtaupokea ubora wetu toka majini hewani na on the ground
Kenya air force will make Dar a quarry within hours
saio Kenya navy will be marching toka kwale iki toanisha
Tanga na Bagamoyo
kenya army will March toka namanga hadi dodoma bado hamtajua kilicho wapiga we have more tanks than Tanzania
about 300 tanks Tanzania ziko 78 hehehe mtajuta Somalia sio Tanzania!!!
airspace ambayo sisi ndo tulikua twamonitor part of it mpaka juzi tu apa.....hamna loloteFly into our space without permission then utajua kama zinafanya kazi ama la
mwafanya nni uku kwetu kama mna biashara za hatariNjooni mje muone viwanda vya maziwa. Na biashara za maziwa kwenda nchi nyingine na biashara ya uchinjanji ng'ombe, sio mnakaa kusifia habari za magazeti eti sisi tunafuga ng'ombe izo habari ni za miaka 10 nyuma.
Na kama kawaida yetu sisi watanzania atujitangazi, ni kama tulivyo lakini biashara zipo za hatari, na ndio maana mnang'ang'ania kuja apa Tanzania
Too bad there are no supermarkets to loot in Somalia, the KDF must be disappointed!
Tafuta historia ya Liberation struggle ya Africa, anzia Mozambique, Namibia and Zimbabwe utajua historia ya TPDF usisahau Comoro heheh! nyinyi endeleeni na looting tu hiyo ndio fani yenu pendwawe ata wafurahisha....ambia tpdf waende hizo peace keeping na manati au ung'ong'o ndo utajua vita ni silaha.hizo ndege utazishukisha kama huna vifaa...no body will ever rank tz ahead of kenya.nyinyi peke yenu ndo hushinda jf mkisema tpdf iko juu..outside your boundaries tpdf is just another army without weapons.outdated army iliyopigana kagera enzi izo
seriously, hii info yako unapata wapi?
anyway, mi ata sina haja ya kuingia hio link, hizo picha zite niko nazo tayari, mi hua constantly natafta habari kama hizo za vifaa vipya na va kitambo za nchi za kiafrica, hakuna lolote unaeza niambia.
Alafu unamaanisha nini ukisema eti hio a100 ndo best in the world? tayari hata kabla hatujatoka nje ya china, kuna A-200 ambayo iko na presion guided sam, kunayo more advanced A-300 ambayo ina strike miltiple concentrated targets kwa wakati mmoja, alafu hao wachina wenyewe walitest hio a100 na nyengine inaitwa PHLO3, na hio A-100 ili fail miserably, sasa kuna zile smerch next gen version za russia, marekani nao wanayo yenye sijui inaitwa M270 ambayo ni kali zaidi.
Alafu yes, mko na stockpile kubwa ya SAMs, hata mwaka jana mimi mwenyewe nilisema kitu kama hicho hapa hapa JF, lakini nyingi ni obsolete, ni enzi ya bado russia ilikua inajulikana kama USSR, alafu vile nyinyi mko na poor storage nyingi ya hizo SAM hata hazifanyi kazi, zimelala tu mahali hazifanyiwi testing wala nini, ndo maana hata mli shoot ndege yenu moja ya kivita kwa bahati mbaya, obsolete useless equipment...
akili yako bado iko stuck in 20th century ambapi A-100 ya china ni the best in the world. naona bado uko slumber party, ukirudi kwa reality tutaongeaSikia na haina ubishi usio na maana. A-100 is one of the best in the world na Tanzania walianza kuoperate hii since 2008/9 ndio maana ukaziona zimeletwa kwenye uwanja wa taifa coz tayari sio latest ndani ya Jeshi la Tanzania, ndio wanavyo fanya. Any time wanapo anika silaa za zamani wanakali mpya.
Wewe omba zipigwe one day hata kwa siku mbili tu....utajua TZ sio mahala pakuchezea.
pia wewe tafuta historia ya KDF, kutoka yugoslavia, liberia, siera leone, djibouti, tena sisi karibu kila tuendapo, mkenya alikua ndo comanda wa wajeshi yote ya peacekeepers hata wa nchi zengine ...Tafuta historia ya Liberation struggle ya Africa, anzia Mozambique, Namibia and Zimbabwe utajua historia ya TPDF usisahau Comoro heheh! nyinyi endeleeni na looting tu hiyo ndio fani yenu pendwa
Sisi tunaomba muwe na tanks elfu3 ili tuzilipe kwa wingi mchanganyikiwe vitani mtuachie hizo tanksubora wa France ungeonekana Paris
ama Nice wakati watu 123 na 81 waliuliwa na terrorist
ubora wa UK ungeonekana pale kwa tube zao wakati terrorist waliuwa watu 200+
ubora wa uturuki ungeonekana
istanbul
Gaziantep
Ankara
wakati terrorist waliuwa watu 245,50,23
mtakaa hapo mkisema westgatr oooh ahhh jaribuni kuigeuka Kenya mtaupokea ubora wetu toka majini hewani na on the ground
Kenya air force will make Dar a quarry within hours
saio Kenya navy will be marching toka kwale iki toanisha
Tanga na Bagamoyo
kenya army will March toka namanga hadi dodoma bado hamtajua kilicho wapiga we have more tanks than Tanzania
about 300 tanks Tanzania ziko 78 hehehe mtajuta Somalia sio Tanzania!!!
its a disciplined force for God sake
Sisi tukitaka tunapewa hata bure wakati wa vita ujui tz ina chukuliwaje na Russia na China usijodanganyehahahahah
Tanzania iko na SA-6 pekee, tena ni zile verion 1 za kitambo sana,. hamna SA-17. Na ikija kwa S-400 (or SA-21/22) ata usijaribu kujisumbua... its the most advanced air defence system, hata marekani hawaingii hapo, zile stealth aircraft za marekani zinafanywa obsolete zikiekewa hio S-400, hapa africa ni egypt ekee ambayo iko na pesa za kutosha kunua moja ya hizo kwani unit cost ya moja ya hio ni $500 million... ati mko nazo, hahahaha duh, story za vijiweni hizo, kadanganye huko, si hapa
How Russia’s S-400 makes the F-35 obsolete
pia wewe tafuta historia ya KDF, kutoka yugoslavia, liberia, siera leone, djibouti, tena sisi karibu kila tuendapo, mkenya alikua ndo comanda wa wajeshi yote ya peacekeepers hata wa nchi zengine ...
the heavy lifting was done by south africa, the dirty work was done by DRC govt soldiers, you guys just went to rape teenagers and put shame to east africansI great thing that I now know ni kwamba babishana na raia ambao hawajui or hawajawai shika silaha.
Peacekeeping? Unajua nini maana ya peacekeeping? Yaani mnakaa na si ruhusa hata kufyatua risasi hewani.
Kuna kitu inaitwa peace enforcement kwa mara ya kwanza in ndani ya UN ni sisi kuhusika na mission hiyo, as the leader of the mission. And we indeed, accomplished the first of its kind mission pretty well by destroying M23.
Tatizo hauijui Tanzania usijidanganye kwamba mnaweza kujafikia level za Tanzania katika medani ...huku kuna watu wanapigania moyo sasa ogopa mtu wa namna hiyopia wewe tafuta historia ya KDF, kutoka yugoslavia, liberia, siera leone, djibouti, tena sisi karibu kila tuendapo, mkenya alikua ndo comanda wa wajeshi yote ya peacekeepers hata wa nchi zengine ...
Sisi tukitaka tunapewa hata bure wakati wa vita ujui tz ina chukuliwaje na Russia na China usijodanganye
the heavy lifting was done by south africa, the dirty work was done by DRC govt soldiers, you guys just went to rape teenagers and put shame to east africans
Blunder after Parade Commander drops sword during Jamhuri Celebrations
Source: KTN Kenya news