Dokta Amzuia Aunty kujifungulia Marekani

[warumi]

what kind of curiosity is this..?with use of derogatory remarks!!.



you should stop overreacting when it comes to being corrected...or else counter argue with sanity thoughts...

mamakibunju ni mmoja kati ya members wachache ninaowafahamu, ni mwanamke smart sana na mambo safi, inshort sio mwanamke wa kawaida yuko vzur hadi namuogopa ahahah japokuwa yeye hajui kama namjua

 

[Dejane]

EEh nisije nikaambiwa nimekosea ni Washington ya capital letter na sio small letter, we binamu kiboko

Hhhaaa kuna mtu kala ban sasa nikakimbilia kukutafuta nilijua ni wewe

 

[EMT]

Duh!!! Hili sikuwa nalijua...

Kwa kifupi watu tunaowapa uraia wa Tanzania hawapotezi uraia wa nchi yao kama hiyo nchi inatambua uraia wa zaidi ya nchi moja, unless and until watu hao waukatae uraia wa nchi yao kwa kutuma maombi rasmi kwenye nchi yao na siyo nchi ya Tanzania.

 

[EMT]

Hhhaaa kuna mtu kala ban sasa nikakimbilia kukutafuta nilijua ni wewe

Huku nako kuna ban? Ngoja nisepee kule nilikozoea.

 

[warumi]

Acheni usegere hivi Iyobo ana uwezo gani wa kumpeleka Aunty marekani, kuna kigogo anafichwa hapa...! Kwendere zenu

Jaman nshakuwa mseng tena? Mimi nimeleta Topic kwa niaba ya she gongo

 

[warumi]

Yes, but there is a loopehole which makes children of diplomats born in America to become "American super citizens" na kuwa na haki hata kupita raia wa kawaida wa Marekani. Soma hii.

Birthright loophole grants diplomat children born in U.S. 'super citizen' status

Children born to diplomats working in the U.S. can enjoy full citizenship but are not subject to American laws, according to a new report.

The controversial 'loophole' means that as long as their parents remain working as diplomats in the U.S. they enjoy a 'super citizen' status, according to the Center for Immigration Studies.

According to the report's author Jon Feere: 'Children of diplomats who receive U.S. birth certificates and social security numbers (SSNs) have greater rights and protections than the average U.S. citizen.'

Speaking to Fox News, a spokesman for the State Department said: 'Persons born in the United States, including a child of foreign diplomats, are legally entitled to an official birth record issued by the Bureau of Vital Statistics of the state in which the child is born.'

The spokesman added: 'If the child enjoys full diplomatic privileges and immunities, the child would not acquire U.S. citizenship at birth.' But according to the, 'Birthright Citizenship for Children of Foreign Diplomats?' report, there is a simple work around for diplomats.

When diplomatic parents have a child on U.S. soil they are given a birth certificate request form from by the National Center for Health Statistics’ Division of Vital Statistics. On the form there is a section for either parent to fill out their 9-digit SSN - but this can be left blank.

Also included is a simple 'yes' or 'no' option asking if their child needs a SSN. Nowhere on the form does it ask if the person applying is a diplomat.

According to the report, the number of social security agencies involved in granting the certificate do not check if the baby is technically eligible for citizenship.

The situation is even further confused as interpretation of the 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause remains a legal minefield. According to the letter of the law, U.S. citizenship by birth is granted to those who were born within the United States and are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

For diplomats this would not be the case, but in practice - according to the report - this is not the case. Mr Feere added: 'A lack of direction from Congress has resulted in children born to foreign diplomats on U.S. soil receiving U.S. birth certificates and Social Security numbers (SSNs) - effectively becoming U.S. citizens - despite the limiting language within the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment.'

Speaking to Fox Immigration attorney Toni Maschler argued that while the 'super citizen' issue does exist, it is a rare occurrence. “It would be proper for them to apply for a green card, but in most cases that child doesn’t stay here long enough to be eligible to naturalize as a U.S. citizen because their parents would more than likely transfer to a different post."

Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...plomat-children-super-U-S-citizen-status.html

Muiteni lemutuz atufafanulie, maana yeye kaishi marekani miaka 7 atakuwa anajua sheria vzur Dinazarde Tyta mamakibunju

 

[Nifah]

Muiteni lemutuz atufafanulie, maana yeye kaishi marekani miaka 7 atakuwa anajua sheria vzur Dinazarde Tyta mamakibunju

Miaka 7? Le Mutuz kaishi Marekani miaka 20 wewe.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

EEh nisije nikaambiwa nimekosea ni Washington ya capital letter na sio small letter, we binamu kiboko

Kwani kuna Washington ya capital letter na small letter?

 

[EMT]

Muiteni lemutuz atufafanulie, maana yeye kaishi marekani miaka 7 atakuwa anajua sheria vzur Dinazarde Tyta mamakibunju

Wewe unazijua sheria za nchi unayoishi?

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Kwa kifupi watu tunaowapa uraia wa Tanzania hawapotezi uraia wa nchi yao kama hiyo nchi inatambua uraia wa zaidi ya nchi moja, unless and until watu hao waukatae uraia wa nchi yao kwa kutuma maombi rasmi kwenye nchi yao na siyo nchi ya Tanzania.

Halafu, suala wala si kutambua rasmi uraia zaidi ya mmoja.

Nadhani Marekani haina stated policy wala sheria ya uraia pacha.

Bali kama wewe ni raia wa Marekani kwa kuzaliwa hata ukichukua uraia wa kwingine, huo uzawa wako ni haki yako ya msingi tena isiyoondoleka labda uamue kuuacha mwenyewe kwa hiari yako.

Na kwa msingi huo ndo unakuta raia wa Marekani anaweza kuwa na uraia wa nchi nyingine pia.

Sasa hiyo haimaanishi hakuna sheria zingine zinazowabana watu wenye uraia zaidi ya ule wa Marekani.

Huku kwetu dhana nzima ya haki za msingi bado sana kueleweka.

 

[mamakibunju]

mamakibunju ni mmoja kati ya members wachache ninaowafahamu, ni mwanamke smart sana na mambo safi, inshort sio mwanamke wa kawaida yuko vzur hadi namuogopa ahahah japokuwa yeye hajui kama namjua

Asante Binamuuuuu, ukipata urais unikumbuke uwaziri wa habari na michezo kama ukishindwa kabisa Ukuu wa Mkoa basi..!

P.S ...MIMI NI YULE YULE TULIYESOMA NAWE KIDATO KIMOJA AAAH AAH AAH.. warumi

 

[Tyta]

Yes, but there is a loopehole which makes children of diplomats born in America to become "American super citizens" na kuwa na haki hata kupita raia wa kawaida wa Marekani. Soma hii.

i like how you counter argue,making it a healthy and educative post..
the term ''American Super Citizens'' as used by ''FOX News''/daily mail(depending on primary source) has more to do with style of journalism rather than what's actually written/stated in their constitution.Ni manjonjo ya uandishi tu.Or is there any part in their constitution that vividly states that and differentiate between a super citizen and a normal citizen?

Birthright loophole grants diplomat children born in U.S. 'super citizen' status

Children born to diplomats working in the U.S. can enjoy full citizenship but are not subject to American laws, according to a new report.

''enjoy'' what is practically done/how the child is treated but not what the law state/wants

The controversial 'loophole' means that as long as their parents remain working as diplomats in the U.S. they enjoy a 'super citizen' status, according to the Center for Immigration Studies.

you know when something is ''controversial'',it is likely to give rise to public disagreement because it is not clear.

According to the report's author Jon Feere: 'Children of diplomats who receive U.S. birth certificates and social security numbers (SSNs) have greater rights and protections than the average U.S. citizen.'

anyone can reason this as it has more to do with maintaining the diplomatic relation between the countries....Diplomats getting more previleges than ordinary citizens is common in many countries worlwide..they just differ interms of ''what kind of previlege''

Speaking to Fox News, a spokesman for the State Department said: 'Persons born in the United States, including a child of foreign diplomats, are legally entitled to an official birth record issued by the Bureau of Vital Statistics of the state in which the child is born.'

The spokesman added: 'If the child enjoys full diplomatic privileges and immunities, the child would not acquire U.S. citizenship at birth.'

that is as per the US Govt official and how the law works and interpreted..

But according to the, 'Birthright Citizenship for Children of Foreign Diplomats?' report, there is a simple work around for diplomats.

When diplomatic parents have a child on U.S. soil they are given a birth certificate request form from by the National Center for Health Statistics’ Division of Vital Statistics. On the form there is a section for either parent to fill out their 9-digit SSN - but this can be left blank.

Also included is a simple 'yes' or 'no' option asking if their child needs a SSN. Nowhere on the form does it ask if the person applying is a diplomat.

this is what is done due to loopholes which still doesnt conclude ''the super citizen'' is ''A US citizen''

According to the report, the number of social security agencies involved in granting the certificate do not check if the baby is technically eligible for citizenship.

The situation is even further confused as interpretation of the 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause remains a legal minefield. According to the letter of the law, U.S. citizenship by birth is granted to those who were born within the United States and are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

For diplomats this would not be the case, but in practice - according to the report - this is not the case. Mr Feere added: 'A lack of direction from Congress has resulted in children born to foreign diplomats on U.S. soil receiving U.S. birth certificates and Social Security numbers (SSNs) - effectively becoming U.S. citizens - despite the limiting language within the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment.'

all i see here is confusing to interprete as result of ''controversial loopholes'' which doesnt remove a fact that the ''diplomat baby'' is still not a ''US citizen''(as per the official`s statement...)

Speaking to Fox Immigration attorney Toni Maschler argued that while the 'super citizen' issue does exist,

note carefully the opening and closing quotation marks used by the news source.

it is a rare occurrence

see that,in practical,it is barely there....

. “It would be proper for them to apply for a green card, but in most cases that child doesn’t stay here long enough to be eligible to naturalize as a U.S. citizen because their parents would more than likely transfer to a different post."

Source: Birthright loophole grants diplomat children 'super U.S. citizen' status | Daily Mail Online

a wise piece of advice to those who would try to use the so called ''loopholes'' to their advantage...

niruhusu nikalale nina game(nba)ya kucheki usiku mkali....

 

[Tyta]

EEh nisije nikaambiwa nimekosea ni Washington ya capital letter na sio small letter, we binamu kiboko

tehteh..si unajitetea button ya ''caps lock'' imeharibika....

 

[Tyta]

mamakibunju ni mmoja kati ya members wachache ninaowafahamu, ni mwanamke smart sana na mambo safi, inshort sio mwanamke wa kawaida yuko vzur hadi namuogopa ahahah japokuwa yeye hajui kama namjua

kama sikufahamu,huwa najibu kulingana na jinsi ulivyokuja...I honor you with dignity if you deserve so.....Tehteh.. usijali mkuu,siweki moyoni,next time naweza hata mpatia ''rep'' if she deserves..

 

[Raynavero]

Jaman nshakuwa mseng tena? Mimi nimeleta Topic kwa niaba ya she gongo

uwe unanitag binamu tafadhali

 

[warumi]

uwe unanitag binamu tafadhali

Unapotea wapi binamu

 

[warumi]

Kwani kuna Washington ya capital letter na small letter?

Hujanielewa point yangu

 

[MadagascarPenguin]

1: Sugu ana uraia wa marekani na tz!

2: Mh Membe ana uraia wa Canada na Tanzania

3: Mh Leticea Nyerere ana uraia wa Marekani na Tanzania

4: Mh Nyalandu ana uraia wa Marekani na Tanzania

Aunt ezekiel ningemshauri angewahi angeenda hata Pakistani mtoto awe na uraia wa huko!

Akaa! Ya kweli haya?!😯
Makubwa...Kweli tembelea JF ujue mambo.

 

[EMT]

the term ''American Super Citizens'' as used by ''FOX News''/daily mail(depending on primary source) has more to do with style of journalism rather than what's actually written/stated in their constitution.Ni manjonjo ya uandishi tu.

Siyo manjonjo ya uandishi bali hiyo phrase inajulikana sana tuu. Haikuwa invented na FOX News'/daily mail. In law, wanaposema you are a "super citizen" ina maana kuwa uko juu ya sheria.

As Jon Feere, the Legal Policy Analyst at the American Center for Immigration Studies, put it "Children of diplomats who receive U.S. birth certificates and SSNs have greater rights and protections than the average U.S. citizen because they can enjoy all of the benefits of U.S. citizenship, but also invoke diplomatic immunity if they break a law. A lack of direction from Congress has created what one might consider a "super citizen" who is above the law."

Or is there any part in their constitution that vividly states that and differentiate between a super citizen and a normal citizen?

Siyo lazima katiba iandike. Kinachosemwa na ambacho haki-make sense ni kuwa watoto wa hao diplomats wanapewa uraia wa Marekani halafu hapo hapo they are not subject to the American laws. There is a difference between law and what actually happens in practice. Na kama katiba ingekuwa inatuambua kati normal citizen na super citizen, then kusingekuwa na hiyo loophole.

you know when something is ''controversial'',it is likely to give rise to public disagreement because it is not clear.

But you can't have a controversy unless there is a contradiction. It is the contradiction which brings out a debate. Sasa hakuna contradiction kati ya sheria inayokataza kuwapa uraia watoto wa ma-diplomat na practice ambayo inawapa kiana uraia watoto hao?

anyone can reason this as it has more to do with maintaining the diplomatic relation between the countries....Diplomats getting more previleges than ordinary citizens is common in many countries worlwide..they just differ interms of ''what kind of previlege''

If you are already a citizen of a particular country and living in that country, you're not entitled to diplomatic protection for the wrongs you committed under international law while in that country. You are the citizen of that country, so you should be subject to its law.

that is as per the US Govt official and how the law works and interpreted..

Since he is a government official ulitegemea jibu tofauti? Akubali?

this is what is done due to loopholes which still doesnt conclude ''the super citizen'' is ''A US citizen''

It is the loophole which creates what has been referred to as a "super citizen", meaning that despite being an American citizen, the child would still be regarded as not being subject to the American law because s/he is also subject to diplomatic protection.

all i see here is confusing to interprete as result of ''controversial loopholes'' which doesnt remove a fact that the ''diplomat baby'' is still not a ''US citizen''(as per the official`s statement...)

The confusion is between what the the law says and what actually happens in practice. Ni sawa na hapa Bongo tunajidai kuwa hatutambui uraia wa zaidi ya nchi moja wakati kuna raia kabao na wengine ni viongozi wana uraia wa zaidi ya nchi moja.

 

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