Dr. Shayo wa UK si bingwa wa uchumi

[JokaKuu]

MiratKad,

..nimeweka tangazo la kazi wanatafuta Financial Engineer.

..i hope itasaidia kuelewa hawa wataalamu wanahusika na nini haswa.

TITLE: FINANCIAL ENGINEER

SKILLS: Derivatives, C++, C#, analytical, quantitative, options

DATE: 5-22-2009


DESCRIPTION:

Qualified applicants may contact Nick Cascio at 212-244-4220 for more details.

Top tier financial firm is looking for an experienced individual to lead efforts in the area of options and volatility modeling as it relates to Energies, Metals, and Soft Commodities. You will have the responsibility for building, strengthening, and leveraging resources across Financial Engineering and Technology to drive innovation and results with the trading businesses.

Responsibilities:
In this hands-on leadership role, responsible for the following:
* Lead, direct, and prioritize efforts of FE and Technology teams
* Drive a vision of innovation within the FE team to consistently create new strategies, models, and scalable practices that build on the intellectual capital
* Build quantitative strategies for new and existing products.
* Interact regularly with senior traders and business resources tied directly to Trading

Qualifications:
* 3+ years direct derivatives industry experience.
* Exceptional analytical and modeling skills and the ability to work with Traders
* Technical expertise (C++, C#, MATLAB, Mathematica, Excel, R).
* Strong experience with modeling options and volatility for commodities or interest rates with in-depth knowledge of the Commodities Space including: Energies (Crude, Natural Gas), Metals, and Soft Commodities (Cotton, Coffee etc.)
* PhD in a quantitative field (e.g. Physics, Engineering, Computer Science, Math, Finance), will also consider strong candidates with a Master Degree.

 

[kanda2]

Jokakuu:

Kuhusu Kiingereza. Mtu aliyesoma shule ya msingi, Sekondari a high school Tanzania ni lazima a-grasp kiingereza. Hivyo digrii ya kwanza inawezwa kusoma katika lugha yoyote hile.

Watanzania ni miaka mingapi tunajifunza kiingereza kabla ya kwenda vyuoni? Miaka zaidi ya kumi.

Pamoja na kusoma zaidi ya miaka kumi bado tunachapia. Na sababu kubwa ni misingi mibovu katika elimu ya msingi na sekondari. Nilisoma digrii katika lugha isiyo ya kiingereza. Nili-struggle, lakini niliyosoma ni primier katika nchi hile. Hivyo exposure niliyopata pale ilikuwa kubwa. Na kama ningetaka exposure hiyo katika chuo kinachofundisha kiingereza basi pesa nyingi sana zingenitoka.


Kuhusu digrii ni lazima tutofautishe. Kuna professional digrii na academic digrii.

MBA ni professional digrii. Kigezo kikubwa katika MBA ni digrii ya kwanza. Na katika vyuo vingine ni digrii ya kwanza na uzoefu wa kazi. Lengo la MBA ni kuandaa viongozi. Hivyo viongozi wanatoka katika fani mbalimbali.

Katika Academic digrii, uhusiano wa digrii unazosomea ni lazima uwepo. Katika vyuo vyote vikubwa uchaguzi wa mwanafunzi kujiunga na Masters au Phd. autegemehi sana uwezo wa mwanafunzi kulipa ada. Unategemea sana academic credentials na uamuzi wa graduate school au department.

KWELI KABISA HUWEZI KUWA NA DIGRI YA MAZINGIRA UKAFANYA phD ya uchumi.au una LLB NA LLM mwisho uchukuwe PhD ya uchumi.

kama ambavyo DR.Shayo anataka kutudanganya ila nimemkamata.
pia ukienda chuo cha mtaani kama LONDON SCHOOL OF COMMERCE hutapata exposure iliyopo kwenye vyuo vikubwa.chuo kama LSC hakina student union,Pinda kumpeleka mtoto wake hapo anampoteza hawezi kupata exposure.

 

[JokaKuu]

Katika Academic digrii, uhusiano wa digrii unazosomea ni lazima uwepo. Katika vyuo vyote vikubwa uchaguzi wa mwanafunzi kujiunga na Masters au Phd. autegemehi sana uwezo wa mwanafunzi kulipa ada. Unategemea sana academic credentials na uamuzi wa graduate school au department.

Zakumi,

..inabidi ufafanue neno "uhusiano" ktk hizo academic degrees ni nini.

..ninavyoelewa mimi mtu anaweza kuwa na degree ya Maths, akachukua madarasa ya Economics, akawa admitted kwenye Masters ya Economics na baada ya hapo anaweza kuendelea mpaka phD.

..hivyo hivyo kwenye masters za Computer Science unaweza kuwa admitted hata kama una 1st degree ya Physics, Maths, Electrical Engineering etc.

..dunia hii inabadilika tena kwa kasi kubwa mno.

 

[Gaijin]

dr shayo anaweza kukaribia mambo ya uchumi na akawa kwenye mambo ya mazingira na construction kwa kusoma " construction economics".
hii inampa uwezo wa kujua mambo ya uchumi unaohusiana na construction and nothing else ( japo kuwa atakuwa na uwezo wa kufahamu uchumi zaidi ya mtu asie soma kabisa uchumi au construction economics) ....but haifanyi kuwa bingwa wa uchumi overall.

 

[kanda2]

Zakumi,

..inabidi ufafanue neno "uhusiano" ktk hizo academic degrees ni nini.

..ninavyoelewa mimi mtu anaweza kuwa na degree ya Maths, akachukua madarasa ya Economics, akawa admitted kwenye Masters ya Economics na baada ya hapo anaweza kuendelea mpaka phD.

..hivyo hivyo kwenye masters za Computer Science unaweza kuwa admitted hata kama una 1st degree ya Physics, Maths, Electrical Engineering etc.

..dunia hii inabadilika tena kwa kasi kubwa mno.

DR huko nyuma ulisema mtu unaweza kuwa na digri yeyote na ukachua PhD ya uchumi.sio kweli hata dunia ibadilike kwa kasi kubwa,bado ukiwa umesoma political science au mazingira huwezi kuchukua PhD ya uchumi, tunajua taratibu za masomo msitudanganye.

watu kama Professor Lipumba wana masters mbili za uchumi ya UDSM na STANFORD UNIVERSITY-MAREKANI na PhD hapo hapo,leo aje mtu aliyesoma mazingira kama Shayo ajipime nae kudai kuwa nae ni bingwa wa uchumi. huko ni kuchezea fani za watu.

very possible mtu aliyesoma uchumi digri ya kwanza akachukua Phd ya mazingira lakini sio mtu wa mazingira achukue uchumi.

 

[Zakumi]

Zakumi,

..inabidi ufafanue neno "uhusiano" ktk hizo academic degrees ni nini.

..ninavyoelewa mimi mtu anaweza kuwa na degree ya Maths, akachukua madarasa ya Economics, akawa admitted kwenye Masters ya Economics na baada ya hapo anaweza kuendelea mpaka phD.

..hivyo hivyo kwenye masters za Computer Science unaweza kuwa admitted hata kama una 1st degree ya Physics, Maths, Electrical Engineering etc.

..dunia hii inabadilika tena kwa kasi kubwa mno.

Jokakuu:

Kabla kuwa admitted kwenye Master au Phd., ni lazima shule ifanye evaluation ya digrii yako ya kwanza, reference zako, experience, na mambo mengine kama vile test scores.

Misingi na Pioneers wa computer science ni Physics, Maths na Electrical Engineering. Mpaka leo vyuo vingi vikubwa, computer science ipo pamoja na Electrical Engineer au Mathematics. Hivyo kuna uwezekano mkubwa mtu wa Physics kuchukua Maths, electrical, computer science.

Vilevile kuna watu wakiwa wanachukua Phd. au Masters wanatakiwa kuchukua masomo ya undergraduate hili kukamilisha masomo ya fani ambayo hawakuyachukua wakiwa undergraduate.

Nakubaliana na wewe unaposema kuwa dunia inabadilika tena kwa kasi kubwa sana. Lakini mabadiliko hayohayo yanafanya discpline moja kuwa vipengere vingi sana. Zamani mtu alikuwa anasoma Electrical engineering akiwa anabobea sana power generation, electrical machines and switches na electrical distribution. Sasa hivi Electrical engineering ina computer engineering, signal processing, telecommunication, materials na mambo mengine mengi tu.

Hivyo basi kutokana na mabadiliko hayo, mtu ajisifu kuwa ni bingwa wa kitu fulani kutokana na kazi anazozifanya sasa na sio Title ya digrii. Title ya digrii iwepo kuchapia profile.

 

[Zakumi]

Dont try and patronise us with ur humble beginnings malachy. Majority of Tanzanians have humble beginnings and it starts from village life.

The issue here is power of choice with the little money you have. Shule nyingi zinapata pesa zao through alumni pia. Mfano, City University wana Cass Business School, ambao mmoja was former students wao ni mwenye Easy Jet, jamaa pumps money there, pia huwa anatembelea kutoa Lecture. How would you value a lecture from someone as successful as Stelious? Mtu kama huyu atatembelea lini LSC? Kuna Business school inaitwa Tanaka (part of IC), hii ina miaka michache tu na tayari iko juu na wanafunzi wake wanashinda awards. Sponsor wake mkubwa ni alumni, sasa hivi hii Business School is one of the top ones in the UK.

Hivi kuna topic ngapi hapa za technologia, sayansi au masomo ambazo watu huongelea? Every one wants to be a politician and you have no flippin' idea how to get rid of CCM. If all of us run to LSC without using our power of choice, how we gonna run our country? If our PM, who is well informed sends his child to LSC (according to Mnozya), when he can send the child to Scandinavia to study for free (minus living expenses), what does that tell us? The same Scandinavians we ask to draft our contracts, yet we dont value their education?

Watanzania tunataka tuongelee mambo ambayo hatuna uwezo nayo, lakini tunataka tuitwe experts. You earn to be an expert. We dont earn it, we find short-cuts, ndio mambo ya online degrees, ndio mambo ya sub-standard degrees.

Nziku:

Sikutaka ku-patronize our humble begining. Kama suala ni jinsi gani ya kupata shule kwa kutumia resource ulizo nazo, ninakubaliana na wewe kwa mambo mengi.

Hila nitaongezea kitu kimoja tu. Huwezi kufanya uchaguzi wa maana bila ya kuwa na information. Watanzania wengi hatuna information ya kutosha ambayo inaweza kutuwezesha kufanya uchaguzi wa maana.

Katika fani ya maendeleo ya mtu binafsi kuna vitu viwili vinavyomfanya mtu aendelee. Kitu cha kwanza tunaweza kukiita societal traps na kingine tunaweza kuiita information leak.

Kwa mfano Strayer University na Franklin University (hapa USA) ni miongoni mwa vyuo vyenye idadi kubwa ya watanzania. Information ili-leak kuwa vyuo hivi ni flexible kwenye schedule zake ambazo zinamwezesha mwanafunzi kufanya kazi full time na kwenda shule jioni au wikiendi.

Pamoja na hayo hivi vyuo kwa watanzania wengine ni societal traps kwa sababu kuna watanzania waliokuja kusoma na ambao hawafanyi kazi. Tution ya vyuo hivi ni sawa na academic institutions. Kama mtu anao uwezo wa vijisenti kwanini asiende kwenye academic institutions na badala yake anapata elimu kwa education providers.

 

[Zakumi]

DR huko nyuma ulisema mtu unaweza kuwa na digri yeyote na ukachua PhD ya uchumi.sio kweli hata dunia ibadilike kwa kasi kubwa,bado ukiwa umesoma political science au mazingira huwezi kuchukua PhD ya uchumi, tunajua taratibu za masomo msitudanganye.

watu kama Professor Lipumba wana masters mbili za uchumi ya UDSM na STANFORD UNIVERSITY-MAREKANI na PhD hapo hapo,leo aje mtu aliyesoma mazingira kama Shayo ajipime nae kudai kuwa nae ni bingwa wa uchumi. huko ni kuchezea fani za watu.

very possible mtu aliyesoma uchumi digri ya kwanza akachukua Phd ya mazingira lakini sio mtu wa mazingira achukue uchumi.

Kanda2:

Kuna kitu kinaitwa PURE au RARE TALENT. Kwa mfano ukitaka kujiunga na CalTech kuchukua Phd. kwenye computer science, ni lazima uonyeshe test score zako za Mathematics. Bachelor au Master yako katika computer science haina mpango kama kwenye mathematics huko average. Wanaweza kumchukua mtu mwenye Mechanical Engineering mwenye kuonyesha rare ability kwenye Maths na kumwacha mtu mwenye digrii za computer science.

Per se Bachelor au Master sio lazima ikuandae wewe kuchukua Phd. katika discpline unayotaka. Kuna vitu vingi, mojawapo ikiwa ni PURE TALENT.

 

[Mwanamalundi]

Si lazima kusoma uchumi katika chuo kikuu ili uweze kuwa mchumi. David Ricardo alisoma uchumi wapi? mbona leo hii baadhi ya wana uchumi wanafuata falsafa zake? A.C.Pigou alisoma historia cambridge uni. Lakini mchango wake katika uchumi sio mdogo. In fact, huyu alikuwa ni mwalimu wa John Keynes katika economics. Leo hii, wachumi wengi mahiri duniani ni wale waliosoma math, physics, chemistry, electronics katika shahada zao za kwanza. Kwa hivi, usimbeze dr .Shayo bure. Ninaelewa ninachozungumza kwa asilimia 100%.

 

[kanda2]

si lazima kusoma uchumi katika chuo kikuu ili uweze kuwa mchumi. David ricardo alisoma uchumi wapi? Mbona leo hii baadhi ya wana uchumi wanafuata falsafa zake? A.c.pigou alisoma historia cambridge uni. Lakini mchango wake katika uchumi sio mdogo. In fact, huyu alikuwa ni mwalimu wa john keynes katika economics. Leo hii, wachumi wengi mahiri duniani ni wale waliosoma math, physics, chemistry, electronics katika shahada zao za kwanza. Kwa hivi, usimbeze dr .shayo bure. Ninaelewa ninachozungumza kwa asilimia 100%.

chinua achebe alisoma medicine na amefanikiwa kuwa mtunzi mzuri wa vitabu vya lugha ya kizungu,aliyegundua umeme hakuwa na digri,bill gates hana digri ya computer jee tusisome kozi hizo kwa vile hao waliogundua hawakuwa na digrii?

Jibu sio kweli.mtalaam wa mazingira atabaki kwenye fani yake ya mazingira.

 

[SpinDoctor]

chinua achebe alisoma medicine na amefanikiwa kuwa mtunzi mzuri wa vitabu vya lugha ya kizungu,aliyegundua umeme hakuwa na digri,bill gates hana digri ya computer jee tusisome kozi hizo kwa vile hao waliogundua hawakuwa na digrii?

Jibu sio kweli.mtalaam wa mazingira atabaki kwenye fani yake ya mazingira.

Naona kuna kitu kati yako na Dr Shayo!

 

[Mwanamalundi]

Dogo acha ubishi. Hoja zako ni hafifu. Ninarudia tena. Sio lazima kusoma economics chuo kikuu ili uweze kuwa mchumi mahiri. Nimekuuliza maswali ambayo umeshindwa kutoa majibu yake. Sasa ngoja nikupe majibu.

Ricardo's interest in economics was sparked by a chance reading of Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations (1776) when he was in his late twenties. Bright and talkative, Ricardo discussed his own economic ideas with his friends, notably James Mill. But it was only after the persistent urging of the eager Mill that Ricardo actually decided to write them down. He began in 1809, authoring newspaper articles on currency questions which drew him into the great Bullionist Controversy that was raging at the time In that affair, he was a partisan of the Bullionist position, which argued for the resumption of the convertibility of paper money into gold. He wrote a pair of tracts (1810, 1811) articulating their arguments and outlining what has since become known as the "classical approach" to the theory of money

Source:David Ricardo

For your information, the history of economic thought tells us that both mathematicians and statisticians have played a pivotal roles in developing economic theory (e.g., Cobb and Douglas)--Cobb Douglas production function. These people were not economists. The list of individuals who have shaped economic thinking over the last century is long enough. Do your own research.

 

[Mwanamalundi]

Ngoja nikusaidie. Unamfahamu John Nash?

In short, he got a nobel prize in economics in 1994. Fuatilia historia yake........

After graduating from high school in 1945, he enrolled at the Carnegie Institute of Technology (now Carnegie Mellon University) in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania on a Westinghouse scholarship, where he studied chemical engineering and chemistry before switching to mathematics. He received both his bachelor's degree and his master's degree in 1948 while at Carnegie Tech.

In 1948, in Nash's application to Princeton’s mathematics department, Nash's advisor and former Carnegie Tech professor, R.J. Duffin, wrote a letter of recommendation consisting of a single sentence: "This man is a genius

He earned a doctorate in 1950 with a 28 page dissertation on non-cooperative games The thesis, which was written under the supervision of Albert W. Tucker, contained the definition and properties of what would later be called the "Nash Equilibrium". These studies led to four articles:

"Equilibrium Points in N-person Games", Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 36 (1950), 48–49. MR0031701
"The Bargaining Problem", Econometrica 18 (1950), 155–162. MR0035977
"Two-person Cooperative Games", Econometrica 21 (1953), 128–140. MR0053471
"Non-cooperative Games", Annals of Mathematics 54 (1951), 286–295.


Source: Wikipedia.

kwa heri!

 

[kanda2]

Naona kuna kitu kati yako na Dr Shayo!

Kwanini kusiwe na kitu kati yangu na chuo cha LSC?kila anayejadili humu ana kitu na mtu?

 

[SpinDoctor]

chinua achebe alisoma medicine na amefanikiwa kuwa mtunzi mzuri wa vitabu vya lugha ya kizungu,aliyegundua umeme hakuwa na digri,bill gates hana digri ya computer jee tusisome kozi hizo kwa vile hao waliogundua hawakuwa na digrii?

Jibu sio kweli.mtalaam wa mazingira atabaki kwenye fani yake ya mazingira.

Samahani kama nimekosea. Nilisoma posts zako tokea mwanzo na post yako hiyo hapo juu ndio ilinifanya nikafikia conclusion ya kuwa kuna kitu kati yako na Dr Shayo. Hata baada ya Mwanamalundi kukuelewesha bado ukaja na jibu hilo hapo.

 

[kanda2]

Samahani kama nimekosea. Nilisoma posts zako tokea mwanzo na post yako hiyo hapo juu ndio ilinifanya nikafikia conclusion ya kuwa kuna kitu kati yako na Dr Shayo. Hata baada ya Mwanamalundi kukuelewesha bado ukaja na jibu hilo hapo.

DR kila mtu afanye fani aliosomea na kubobea.Shayo ni mtalaam wa mazingira na watu waliobobea kwenye uchumi wapo kina Professor Ndulu,Professor Lipumba au DR.NGowi pale Mzumbe.

ingekuwa hatuna watu wa uchumi hapo ndipo tungeomba watu wa mazingira kina shayo watusadie.

hoja za Mwanamalundi hazina msingi kina kinjeketile walikuwa watalaam wa vita kwa hiyo hakuna haja ya kuwa na jeshi au kulipa mafunzo kwa vile kinjeketile aliweza kubadili risasi kuwa maji?

MTEI alikuwa gavana wa benki kuu huku akiwa na digri ya Literature,kwa hiyo tusimtafute gavana mwenye uelewa wa uchumi kama Ndullu kwa vile Edwin Mtei alifanya kazi ile akiwa na digri ya lugha?

tunaposema watalaam wafanye kazi zao walizosomea.Shayo tunaweza kumpa wadhifa wa kisiasa kama kuwa balozi nk lakini sio kumpa platform ya kitalaam asionao.

 

[MwanajamiiOne]

Duh so na mimi naweza kubadili fani yangu toka sayansi ya jamii to uchumi? Kama sina background ya uchumi? May be through hiyo mnayoita MBA?

 

[kanda2]

Dogo acha ubishi. Hoja zako ni hafifu. Ninarudia tena. Sio lazima kusoma economics chuo kikuu ili uweze kuwa mchumi mahiri. Nimekuuliza maswali ambayo umeshindwa kutoa majibu yake. Sasa ngoja nikupe majibu.

Ricardo's interest in economics was sparked by a chance reading of Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations (1776) when he was in his late twenties. Bright and talkative, Ricardo discussed his own economic ideas with his friends, notably James Mill. But it was only after the persistent urging of the eager Mill that Ricardo actually decided to write them down. He began in 1809, authoring newspaper articles on currency questions which drew him into the great Bullionist Controversy that was raging at the time In that affair, he was a partisan of the Bullionist position, which argued for the resumption of the convertibility of paper money into gold. He wrote a pair of tracts (1810, 1811) articulating their arguments and outlining what has since become known as the "classical approach" to the theory of money

Source:David Ricardo

For your information, the history of economic thought tells us that both mathematicians and statisticians have played a pivotal roles in developing economic theory (e.g., Cobb and Douglas)--Cobb Douglas production function. These people were not economists. The list of individuals who have shaped economic thinking over the last century is long enough. Do your own research.

HUWEZI KUWA MCHUMI MAHIRI KAMA HUNA MSINGI WA UCHUMI.PITIA DEPARTMENT YA UCHUMI HII www,econ,qmul.ac.uk ukitaka kufanya Msc Economics masharti uwe na upper second class ya uchumi.unaweza kuwa na ENGINEERING AU HESABU UKAFANYA MSC FINANCE.LAKINI SHAYO HANA MSC WALA phD ya uchumi,hawezi kuwa bingwa wala mtalaam wa uchumi zaidi ya kuhesabu na kupanga pesa zake za matumizi yake mwenyewe huo sio uchumi.kuna kitabu kinaitwa TEN DAYS MBA yaani ukisoma kwa siku kumi una MBA. bila dissertation wala mtihani.labda kuna cha uchumi cha ten days kama cha MBA.

ukitaka kuwa daktari bingwa wa maradhi inabidi uwe na masters ya utabibu.hupati masters kama huna msingi wa medicine. kina professor Mwakyusa na Professor Mtulia wamesotea fani zao huwezi kuingia kwa short cut.

tumewahi kuwa na gavana wa benki kuu Edwin Mtei akiwa na digri ya LITERATURE hiyo ilikuwa miaka ya 70 hatuna watalaam wa kutosha,hivi sasa tunao na ni karne nyingine.sawa na hao watalaam wa miaka ya 1776 kuwaweka kama reference wakati tunao watalaam wa sasa kina professor YUNUS wenye misingi ya uchumi.

Shayo atabaki kwenye mazingira sio uchumi tusivamie fani za kina Ndullu.
LONDON SCHOOL OF COMMERCE hadi sasa hawajatia timu kuja kujibu udhaifu wa chuo chao wanaendelea kulaghai watu.kwenye tangzo lao wanasema pata digri toka katikati ya jiji la London wakati digri yao inatoka Cardif.

 

[Nzokanhyilu]

Mwanamalundi, John Nash was a GENIUS mpaka akachanganyikiwa. Unless you are saying plagiarising is a trait of a genius.

Anayetaka kujua kuhusu John Nash kuna link you tube inaonyesha movie inayohusu maisha yake. Inaitwa 'A beautiful Mind' with Rusell Crowe the main actor. Very interesting movie.

Huyu Dr. wa uchumi alikuwa anaandika utumbo TZUK akachambuliwa, haandiki tena. Sasa sijui editor alikuwa hachuji?

I agree with the points about education change, but most of the time, if you have an Engineering (Numerical/Mathematical) degree, you can move into practically any field. A lot of people working in the Financial Institutions in London, have engineering degrees. Thing is, when sh*it hits the fan, you cant get an engineering job. Kuna washikaji nawajua walikimbilia City jobs, economic downturn imewafanya vibaya, hawana skills tena za Engineering. Point is, you cant have an Economist being an Engineer. But you can have an Engineer being an Economist or Financial Modeller as someone pointed out. Ndio kina John Nash hao.......ila usiweke John Nash na Dr. wetu katika sentensi moja.

Degree za Environment ni 'sciences' not Engineering.

jamani, tuko makini hapa hatuuziwi mbuzi kwenye gunia.

Ooh; Ricardo was Jewish, his father was a stockbroker - I guess you get the point.

A.C. Pigou was taught Economics, before he became influential in Economics.

 

[kanda2]

Mwanamalundi, John Nash was a GENIUS mpaka akachanganyikiwa. Unless you are saying plagiarising is a trait of a genius.

Anayetaka kujua kuhusu John Nash kuna link you tube inaonyesha movie inayohusu maisha yake. Inaitwa 'A beautiful Mind' with Rusell Crowe the main actor. Very interesting movie.

Huyu Dr. wa uchumi alikuwa anaandika utumbo TZUK akachambuliwa, haandiki tena. Sasa sijui editor alikuwa hachuji?

I agree with the points about education change, but most of the time, if you have an Engineering (Numerical/Mathematical) degree, you can move into practically any field. A lot of people working in the Financial Institutions in London, have engineering degrees. Thing is, when sh*it hits the fan, you cant get an engineering job. Kuna washikaji nawajua walikimbilia City jobs, economic downturn imewafanya vibaya, hawana skills tena za Engineering. Point is, you cant have an Economist being an Engineer. But you can have an Engineer being an Economist or Financial Modeller as someone pointed out. Ndio kina John Nash hao.......ila usiweke John Nash na Dr. wetu katika sentensi moja.

Degree za Environment ni 'sciences' not Engineering.

jamani, tuko makini hapa hatuuziwi mbuzi kwenye gunia.

Ooh; Ricardo was Jewish, his father was a stockbroker - I guess you get the point.

A.C. Pigou was taught Economics, before he became influential in Economics.

WEWE MTU NI HAZINA KUBWA HAPA JF KIASI CHA KUMKIMBIZA MWAKILISHI WA LONDON SCHOOL OF COMMERCE BWANA MZONYA.nitumie email kwenye pm UTANISAIDIA SANA HUKO MBELE YA SAFARI.