DRC and South Sudan to link on Uganda, Tanzania pipeline

[Livale]

Kisha all quotings with Toyota Tsusho are Lamu to SSudan and not to Juba meaning wanamaanisha to the Northern oil fields. That's a distance you haven't factored in your tanga calculations.

 

[Livale]

..wakina Geza r just responding kwa mashambulizi ya Kenya.

..motto ya EAC ni " one ppl one destiny. "

..lakini inaelekea kuna nchi iko kwenye eac with the intention to dominate other member state economically and socially.

Angalia who starts the attacks

 

[Livale]

naona uwongo umekushinda! BTW Kenya population si 44 mln ni zaidi ya 46 mln! Pitia hapa

47.2 million according to world populationreview, 46 million according to countrymeters, 44 million according to WB, the only constant thing is all are estimates

 

[Geza Ulole]

In your rage to flaunt figures Geza, you forgot to note that they are working against your argument of Tanga being closer

From the above as brought out by you, Tanga to Hoima ni 1443 kisha Hoima to Juba ni 381. A total of 1824km

And from this one, Juba to Lamu ni 1720km, which one is further?

but a difference 104 km is nothing to South Sudan with 3.5 bln barrels when u compare between the benefits of going to Hoima where other members with proven oil reserves are i.e. Uganda 6.5 bln and Congo DRC 3 bln barrels and going to Lamu where oil reserves are at 800 mln barrels and Al Shaababs r at large! BTW other reports put the distance btn Juba-Lamu at 2000 km! so to be in a safer side the distance is between 1720 km and 2000 km

 

[Geza Ulole]

47.2 million according to world populationreview, 46 million according to countrymeters, 44 million according to WB, the only constant thing is all are estimates

u can do the maths last time u did census was 2009! and u will see ur popln is above 47 mln

 

[Livale]

but a difference 104 km is nothing to South Sudan with 3.5 bln barrels when u compare between the benefits of going to Hoima where other members with proven oil reserves are i.e. Uganda 6.5 bln and Congo DRC 3 bln barrels and going to Lamu where oil reserves are at 800 mln barrels and Al Shaababs r at large! BTW other reports put the distance btn Juba-Lamu at 2000 km! so to be in a safer side the distance is between 1720km and 2000 km

As usual, changing goal posts is your specialty once you realize something is implausible. From ni karibu to it makes no difference. Wajua 100kms ni how much in terms of extra costs. Na which reports are you talking about saying Lamu to Juba and not lamu to SSudan oil fields (like unity) ni 2000km?

Kisha mafuta ya DRC hayana uhusiano wowote na usafirishaji wa mafuta ya SSudan. Wao wataka the shortest route, at the lowest cost of transportation. Na hio route ya Tanga they'll 1st have to pay freight fee to Ug then to Tz hence probably more costly

 

[Livale]

Seeing the thread has degenerated to a 2 man endless argument with you changing goal posts all the time, sitaendelea on this trajectory. Let's agree to disagree

 

[Geza Ulole]

As usual, changing goal posts is your specialty once you realize something is implausible. From ni karibu to it makes no difference. Wajua 100kms ni how much in terms of extra costs. Na which reports are you talking about saying Lamu to Juba and not lamu to SSudan oil fields (like unity) ni 2000km?

Kisha mafuta ya DRC hayana uhusiano wowote na usafirishaji wa mafuta ya SSudan. Wao wataka the shortest route, at the lowest cost of transportation

mbona tangu 2010 hawajaanza kujenga hilo bomba? kelele tu kwenye media maana yake Lamu route is not economical feasible! hamna kampuni ya mafuta inaweza kuacha posiibility yya cost sharing btn three parties that are having over 13 bln barrels of oil akaenda kuungana na a part that will make the reserves 4.3 bln barrels! Halafu route yenyewe ina Al Shaabab, Lamu port ina monsoon wind plus kuhitaji costly dredging, uache ubishi... nitaku-tag siku deal likikamilika!

 

[ushashi]

Evidence, that's all I ask for. Other than that, it is he said this, she said that but with no legal binding

Not that I'm questioning your nationality but your comment has a tinge of bias in it. Tz has all it takes, really?

And I did say signed an Mou instead of the project documents themselves, na ukiniuliza, that is more legally binding than what their minister is saying eti "DRC are interested, Burundi and SSudan are expected"... What legality and commitments lie in such purports that trounce an MOU?

Am a Kenyan.... Try not to argue with numbers... They don't lie but words do. Tzders normally don't talk like we do and this is why in big deals like this pipeline we loose thinking and depending on non legal binding. You can sign papers and even take photos but what do you get at the end. We will always be stage shouters.

 

[Cicero]

..kwa hili nakupongeza ndugu yangu.

..media ya Tz imelala usingizi kuhusu masuala ya eac.

You have identified a gap. I wonder of there's anyone working to fill that gap.

 

[misasa]

Watu wanatega ili wapate compensation

 

[Livale]

You have identified a gap. I wonder of there's anyone working to fill that gap.

This is something I noticed. We Africans know our problems in and out, we know of possible solutions but we are hardly applying this solutions.

 

[ushashi]

When doing any construction one must consider necessary facts before you start implementation.
1😛hysical features eg mountains, rivers, etc. In this case distance is not a an issue with
2: Coresponding areas. Here we consider things like dumping areas, Kenya has a very limited land to accommodate this kind of projects
3:Social, political, economic benefits. To which extent will the project be of great importance to the three aspects named above?
4:Security. This is a very big concern In any project. Now just try to ask school kids between TZ and Kenya which is more safe. The answer is obviously TZ. Why waste your time?

 

[ushashi]

47.2 million according to world populationreview, 46 million according to countrymeters, 44 million according to WB, the only constant thing is all are estimates

Mr Livale don't argue with numbers.... Numbers don't lie.

 

[bongo-live]

kenya will be a big oil player in the years to come and thats no doubt. Tullow discovered oil in 2012, they have slightly over800mmbls oil from less than 15 well in the south lokichar basin in turkana, and that is only one basin that a few prospects have been drilled, that area alone has around six huge basins like turkana basin, north lokichar, kerio basin and anza graben which have not been touched. Kenya and uganda are going to be big oil producers in africa thats a fact. Mearsk oil just farmed in into africa oils archarage in kenya and they are a company with deep pockets, in q4 of this year they are drilling around four wells in that region. That stock has been doing very well on vancouver stock exchage, and its one for the future. anyone can follow it up ndani ya stockhouse.com/bullboards/africaoilcorp.

 

[Livale]

Mr Livale don't argue with numbers.... Numbers don't lie.

As a matter of fact, numbers do lie from time to time. More so if their source is questionable. Example, how did kibera's 1-2 million inhabitants as purported by some people shrink to just 170,000 after the census was conducted? It's pictures that don't lie, but in this photo shop Era, that's also plausible.

Just Google search Kenya's population, its variance is by a whopping 2 million people from source to source, site to site. That's because the figures are estimates, not counted census therefore questionable in that sense.

 

[Geza Ulole]

kenya will be a big oil player in the years to come and thats no doubt. Tullow discovered oil in 2012, they have slightly over800mmbls oil from less than 15 well in the south lokichar basin in turkana, and that is only one basin that a few prospects have been drilled, that area alone has around six huge basins like turkana basin, north lokichar, kerio basin and anza graben which have not been touched. Kenya and uganda are going to be big oil producers in africa thats a fact. Mearsk oil just farmed in into africa oils archarage in kenya and they are a company with deep pockets, in q4 of this year they are drilling around four wells in that region. That stock has been doing very well on vancouver stock exchage, and its one for the future. anyone can follow it up ndani ya stockhouse.com/bullboards/africaoilcorp.

Blah blah blah how many times have oil companies returned the blocks that they acquired! Keep saying 'Kenya will'...!

 

[Livale]

kenya will be a big oil player in the years to come and thats no doubt. Tullow discovered oil in 2012, they have slightly over800mmbls oil from less than 15 well in the south lokichar basin in turkana, and that is only one basin that a few prospects have been drilled, that area alone has around six huge basins like turkana basin, north lokichar, kerio basin and anza graben which have not been touched. Kenya and uganda are going to be big oil producers in africa thats a fact. Mearsk oil just farmed in into africa oils archarage in kenya and they are a company with deep pockets, in q4 of this year they are drilling around four wells in that region. That stock has been doing very well on vancouver stock exchage, and its one for the future. anyone can follow it up ndani ya stockhouse.com/bullboards/africaoilcorp.

True. And I also think Ethiopia and Somalia have something buckling beneath the surface, awaiting findings considering their geographical and topographical factors are similar to the Kenyan and Sudanese ones. If all goes well, the eastern Africa region will be a fossil fuels giant with oil and gas.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Livale if u go to ur statistics from the last time u did census in 2009 u can see ur ave. Popln growth! U need to argue like s1 been to school! Kenya can never b below 46 mln people! it is btn 46 mln n 48 mln people! Whereas Tz is btn 53 to 55 mln people.

 

[Livale]

Tena you are dragging me into yet another seemingly endless argument. Kenya's population growth has been reducing gradually, family planning has started reaching the grassroots hence the trend will be sustained for quite a while. The same is true for most of East Africa. The numbers might hold or not since they are meer estimates thus the huge variance.

But kwa vile nikama twapingana kushinda na si kuelewa, nitakupisha ushinde hili so yes, kenya has 48 million people. Tz has 55 million people.