East African Federation (EAF) public Views

East African Federation (EAF) public Views

Wakuu, nawaamkueni! jamani dua langu JUKWAA LA EAC. hii EAC utaipata katika nyuzi katika karibu kila jukwaa - international, kiuchumi, elimu, kisheria, kitamaduni, kisiasa nk. ni bora masuala ya EAC yajadiliwe chini ya jukwaa lake.
dua na mtazamo wangu.
 
PM contacts zako sasa mburukenge wewe! Tuma sasa hivi, kama siyo kuishi kama paka shume, kwa kujificha ficha kama mwizi au kibaka.

...damn,you gotta love this cyber coward,kweli internet creates a place for likes of this looser to act what they would never do in regular society,sad really.
 
Kenya promotes 1 visa for 5 East African countries
By TOM MALITI (AP)
NAIROBI, Kenya - Five East African nations want to collapse their borders so that foreigners will need only one visa to travel to any of the five nations, Kenya's immigration minister said Friday.
The proposal is part of an effort to forge Burundi, Kenya, Rwanda, Tanzania and Uganda into a single market and increase investment in the region, Immigration Minister Otieno Kajwang said.
Negotiations are at an advanced stage, he said. The European Union's 25-nation zone of open frontiers is being used as a model, said Kajwang. He said he did not know when the negotiations will conclude.
Citizens of Burundi, Kenya, Rwanda, Tanzania and Uganda do not need visas to travel within their economic bloc, the East African Community, which on Thursday officially began operating as a single market with one set of regulations. Each country, however, still has to change a wide range of laws including labor, taxation and immigration to conform to the protocol.
On Friday, Kenya waived all work permit requirements for East Africans, who will only need to register with the immigration department as a formality, Kajwang said.
"We want to show by example that what we have agreed on we are implementing, and this will create a lot of goodwill," Kajwang said. He noted that Rwanda in late 2007 eliminated work permit requirements for all citizens of the community.
He cautioned, however, that there are still difficulties ahead in fully implementing the East African Community's Common Market Protocol, such as resistance from bureaucrats. It took five years to negotiate the protocol and at times talks stalled because of fears that individual countries would lose their sovereignty or that Kenya's better established businesses would dominate the region.
"The politicians know what they want. We want one market," said Kajwang. "But the civil servants will move very slowly. And in this one we are urging them to move very quickly."
Since 2005 the East African Community has charged a uniform set of duties for any imports from outside the region under a customs union agreement. Over a five-year period duties were also progressively cut to nothing all on products and goods produced and traded within the region. The community also has a court and a parliament.
Creating a federation is the ultimate goal of the nine-year-old East African Community. It brings together more than 125 million people.
 
Mwapachu criticises dons on EA integration Saturday, 03 July 2010 08:19

By Bernard Lugongo
THE CITIZEN

The East African Community (EAC) secretary general Juma Mwapachu has blamed academicians for misleading the public on the real meaning of the EA Common Market.

Ambassador Mwapachu came tough on intellectuals who criticised the EA Common Market through a section of media when he was opening the 34th Dar es Salaam International Trade Fair yesterday.

He said the academicians were not speaking the truth on the Common Market which became operational on Thursday throughout EAC member states namely Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda and Burundi.

“Even professors whom we expect to be the teachers to educate the public about the East Africa Common Market have turned to be misleaders of the whole concept,” he said.

He wondered why people are worried now while companies from one another have been operating in other EAC member states even before the Common Market was introduced.

“There are many companies from Kenya which have been operating in Tanzania for years now... we are expressing worries now?” he asked.

He said as regional integration has been gaining pace academicians were supposed to educate wananchi on how they could utilise the opportunities under the EAC and not threatening them that they were going to lose.

“The issue of Common Market is not new at all, it has been in practice for years, this time we have just justified the opening of the doors,” he stressed.

He wondered why Tanzanians have been such wary of their fellow East Africans while there were many foreigners from the Asian countries and others who conduct business in the country.

“Why don’t you speak of the movement of labour from countries such as South Africa, China and other developed countries who came to grab several employment opportunities here in the country?” he questioned.
 
Kwa nini siku hizi tunasherehekea vitu kama hivi kwa kukata na kula keki? Inamaanisha tunategemea kuna siku vitakufa au? Nadhani ni ujinga fulani.

Anyway, siku zote nipo excited na hii kitu, mimi nadhani waafrika umefika wakati tuanze kujenga bara hili kwa pamoja, siyo tu tunajitokeza kuonyesha upan-africanism wetu nyakati za furaha. Ni wakati wa vitendo sasa.

Ningedhani Msumbiji angekuwa ameshaingia, wako stable zaidi ya Burundi. Nadhani watanzania, hasa nyie wasomi, mrukie hii kitu. Tengenezeni brands, teknolojia tayari zipo sehemu kama China na south africa ambapo kwenda hamna mizengwe ya viza na ni karibu/gharama nafuu kwenda. Labor hiyo mmeongezewa pool huku mkiweza kuajiri bila mizengwe au kutoa rushwa kupata vibali. Changamkeni wakuu, tuache kulialia.
 
Kwa wale 'wataalamu' wa kule bongo, wauzieni 'ardhi' hawa wakuja, si wana jifanya wao wana akili sana,, wapigeni za usoni wajue kwanini tunaitwa BONGOLAND.
 
"The politicians know what they want. We want one market," said Kajwang. "But the civil servants will move very slowly. And in this one we are urging them to move very quickly."

Statement ya huyu mjaluo inaniacha hoi, lakini it is a signature of what has been happening. Kwamba wanasiasa pretend to know EVERYTHING, huku wataalamu waliosomoea na kuwa na ujuzi wa hayo mambo wanapuuzwa.
 

"Why don't you speak of the movement of labour from countries such as South Africa, China and other developed countries who came to grab several employment opportunities here in the country?" he questioned.
This Mwapachu guy is so funny..

Academicians are not PR officers of ur pathetic EAC. They are mwananchis with their own opinion na sioni unawasakama kwa vijembe kwa lipi. Wewe timiza wajibu wako wa ukuwadi na wao watimize wajibu wao wa kukosoa jamii. Kila mtu akae kwene position yake..Ala!

Halafu anataka kujustify hao wanaoiba ajira za waTz, hivi huyu mtu anafanya kazi kwa masilahi ya nani?
 
I have been saying from the beginning and will keep om saying....This is a bad Idea for Tamania. Ujambazi utazidi (ukitokea Kenya) , Ukabila utashamiri (ukitokea Kenya), Utu wetu wa ki-Tanzania unazilika kama moto wa kibatarikisicho na mafuta .ta taa...(kwasababu ya ukatili utakaoletwa na wa-Kenya....na hii yotye ni sababu ya kuwa na viongozi waki-sanii wenye akili za ki-taahira...kutwa kucheka cheka tu....😡
 
Statement ya huyu mjaluo inaniacha hoi, lakini it is a signature of what has been happening. Kwamba wanasiasa pretend to know EVERYTHING, huku wataalamu waliosomoea na kuwa na ujuzi wa hayo mambo wanapuuzwa.

I share similar views na huyu Jaluo flani, hii kitu watu wandahani kwakua CM imeshaanza basi ndio unajilipua pale bongo afu unapata ajira kiulaini..Hell No! shughuli pevu bado ipo. We jiulize tu ugumu uliopo wa kupata kazi nchini mwako wakati wewe ni Mbongo au Mkenya sasa ndio foreigner atapewa kazi kiulaini kweli?.

Uzoefu nilio nao kuna nchi flani flani ambazo zinawaajairi foreigners kwakua wapo tayari kufanya kazi hata kwa mshahara mbuzi na matokeo yake ndio yanaanza mambo ya XENOPHOBIA!!!

Bado naamini kabisa CM ni kwa manufaa ya wafanyabiashara wakubwa tu..na may be MAFISADI:crying:
 
It is shared values that entrench common markets

By AHMEDNASIR ABDULLAHI
Posted Saturday, July 3 2010 at 17:44

The East African Community (EAC) entered a critical phase on July 1. A common market with an estimated combined population of 130 million heralds a new dawn for the five-member countries of Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Rwanda and Burundi.

The East African common market protocol is a milestone. It allows for free movement of persons, labour, services and the right to establish residence in any of the five countries.

Despite the optimistic garb clothed with this historic event, the EAC has a soft underbelly that will soon be exposed by a number of underlying factors. In the process, the shallow and sandy foundation the EAC was built on will, to the detriment of all, be exposed.

The East African Community is a community of what shared values? What are the common denominators these five countries share? What is the political, economic and social status of these countries?

The East African Community and the various milestones that define both its history and character have collectively been conceived principally driven by the executives of these countries. Whereas it is true that political leadership at the top is very important in driving unions of countries, the EAC’s situation is very peculiar. In other situations like the European Union, the citizenry, through referenda, have a say in the evolving process of the union.

In any democracy, sovereignty lies with the people and advanced democracies give their citizens a chance to reject the political theorisation of their leaders. For unions, whether economic or political, to be internalised by the people of a given region, the same must be driven by a democratic component. This is absent in the case of the EAC.

The biggest drawback that faces the community is that the entire process is being driven by the collective political benevolence and temporal chemistry of the five presidents. That is the glue that holds the community together. The cause of the demise of the community in the late1970s seems to be completely forgotten.

Another drawback is the absence of a set of common values and governance that bind the five countries. These countries have their own diverse histories. In terms of democracy and governance, they are at different epochal stages of progression. The only meaningful common denominator is the periodic elections they hold every five years.

Kenya is the most stable democracy among the five. Despite the mayhem of 2008, Kenya is decades ahead of both Tanzania and Uganda in terms of liberal political system and democratic space and culture. Tanzania is labouring under a false sense of stability that usually comes with a de facto one party state. The electioneering process that we usually witness in Zanzibar and Pemba is a clear testimony of the suffocating grip the ruling party has over the country.

Uganda, despite the bravado of its strong man, resembles the opaque and despised Moi regime of Kenya. Rwanda and Burundi are under reconstruction after a calamitous period of instability.

An equally important factor that will undermine the union is the absence of common institutions and sets of laws. For a proper integration of a union, member states must share institutions that are underpinned by a set of common values and laws. These institutions will, in the process, have a regional jurisdiction and apply a common set of laws across the region. For instance, the Community needs to have a common court that has jurisdiction over certain subject matters like human rights or other governance issues of concern to member states.

The EAC fails to address the bottlenecks that will hamper a viable integration process. Apart from Rwanda, corruption and other institutional weakness are prevalent in the five countries. These countries don’t have strong internal mechanisms to redress these malaises. They also share an incompetent and corrupt judiciary. An inefficient and lethargic bureaucracy is also a defining feature of these countries. The absence of common foreign and even regional policies is another drawback.

Integration and a common market is more than five presidents meeting in Arusha and parting their backs on an illusionary integration.

The writer is a former LSK chairman

Daily Nation:*- Opinion*|It is shared values that entrench common markets

Those italics lines in red makes me laugh every time! If democracy is what we see in Kenya i bet we better have none! The guts, the stereotypic Kenyans have to claim they are decades ahead democratic while till today people die out of political motivated reasons just because they oppose the ruling parties or just because of tribal politics! 😎
 
It is shared values that entrench common markets

By AHMEDNASIR ABDULLAHI
Posted Saturday, July 3 2010 at 17:44

The East African Community (EAC) entered a critical phase on July 1. A common market with an estimated combined population of 130 million heralds a new dawn for the five-member countries of Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Rwanda and Burundi.
The East African common market protocol is a milestone. It allows for free movement of persons, labour, services and the right to establish residence in any of the five countries.
Despite the optimistic garb clothed with this historic event, the EAC has a soft underbelly that will soon be exposed by a number of underlying factors. In the process, the shallow and sandy foundation the EAC was built on will, to the detriment of all, be exposed.
The East African Community is a community of what shared values? What are the common denominators these five countries share? What is the political, economic and social status of these countries?
The East African Community and the various milestones that define both its history and character have collectively been conceived principally driven by the executives of these countries. Whereas it is true that political leadership at the top is very important in driving unions of countries, the EAC’s situation is very peculiar. In other situations like the European Union, the citizenry, through referenda, have a say in the evolving process of the union.
In any democracy, sovereignty lies with the people and advanced democracies give their citizens a chance to reject the political theorisation of their leaders. For unions, whether economic or political, to be internalised by the people of a given region, the same must be driven by a democratic component. This is absent in the case of the EAC.
The biggest drawback that faces the community is that the entire process is being driven by the collective political benevolence and temporal chemistry of the five presidents. That is the glue that holds the community together. The cause of the demise of the community in the late1970s seems to be completely forgotten.
Another drawback is the absence of a set of common values and governance that bind the five countries. These countries have their own diverse histories. In terms of democracy and governance, they are at different epochal stages of progression. The only meaningful common denominator is the periodic elections they hold every five years.
Kenya is the most stable democracy among the five. Despite the mayhem of 2008, Kenya is decades ahead of both Tanzania and Uganda in terms of liberal political system and democratic space and culture. Tanzania is labouring under a false sense of stability that usually comes with a de facto one party state. The electioneering process that we usually witness in Zanzibar and Pemba is a clear testimony of the suffocating grip the ruling party has over the country.
Uganda, despite the bravado of its strong man, resembles the opaque and despised Moi regime of Kenya. Rwanda and Burundi are under reconstruction after a calamitous period of instability.
An equally important factor that will undermine the union is the absence of common institutions and sets of laws. For a proper integration of a union, member states must share institutions that are underpinned by a set of common values and laws. These institutions will, in the process, have a regional jurisdiction and apply a common set of laws across the region. For instance, the Community needs to have a common court that has jurisdiction over certain subject matters like human rights or other governance issues of concern to member states.
The EAC fails to address the bottlenecks that will hamper a viable integration process. Apart from Rwanda, corruption and other institutional weakness are prevalent in the five countries. These countries don’t have strong internal mechanisms to redress these malaises. They also share an incompetent and corrupt judiciary. An inefficient and lethargic bureaucracy is also a defining feature of these countries. The absence of common foreign and even regional policies is another drawback.
Integration and a common market is more than five presidents meeting in Arusha and parting their backs on an illusionary integration.
The writer is a former LSK chairman
Daily Nation:*- Opinion*|It is shared values that entrench common markets

Those italics lines in red makes me laugh every time! If democracy is what we see in Kenya i bet we better have none! The gurts the stereotypic Kenyans have to claim they are decades ahead democratic while till today people die out of political motivated reasons just because they oppose the ruling parties or just because of tribal politics! 😎

Kazi ipo mkuu..
 
Kwa wale 'wataalamu' wa kule bongo, wauzieni 'ardhi' hawa wakuja, si wana jifanya wao wana akili sana,, wapigeni za usoni wajue kwanini tunaitwa BONGOLAND.

Nilidhani Bongoland ilitokea kwa ajili wengi wenyu ni BONGOLALA, could I be wrong? How was your weekend son?
 
Geza Ulole said:
Those italics lines in red makes me laugh every time! If democracy is what we see in Kenya i bet we better have none! The guts, the stereotypic Kenyans have to claim they are decades ahead democratic while till today people die out of political motivated reasons just because they oppose the ruling parties or just because of tribal politics!
Geza Ulole said:

You don't need to laugh at anything. It depends on what you understand by democracy.
 
If what we see in Kenya is democracy, then we don't need dictatorship in Africa!
 
I have been saying from the beginning and will keep om saying....This is a bad Idea for Tamania. Ujambazi utazidi (ukitokea Kenya) , Ukabila utashamiri (ukitokea Kenya), Utu wetu wa ki-Tanzania unazilika kama moto wa kibatarikisicho na mafuta .ta taa...(kwasababu ya ukatili utakaoletwa na wa-Kenya....na hii yotye ni sababu ya kuwa na viongozi waki-sanii wenye akili za ki-taahira...kutwa kucheka cheka tu....😡

Don't blame Kenya for your failures. If you don't have a good gover which can handle situations, that's not the problem of anyone but your own.
 
Mkenda pata hiyo niliandika article kujibu baadhi ya hoja za Prof wangwe wakati ule akitaka 'maoni' ya makapuku kabla hawaendelea.

pata hiyo tuition kidogo.
 

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