East Air Force - Sukhoi and Mikoyan

[vulcan]

Mozambique against Portugal we won, Zimbabwe and Angola we won, Seychelles and Comoro we won, DRC and Uganda we won. Please tell us which war KDF won?

We have not needed to fight those wars that you have been fighting.

 

[vulcan]

Infact only kenya airforce is carrying out long range airstrikes in somalia.The entry of kenya into somalia was a game changer. our intelligence have even penetrated the ranks of alshabab such that their are now fighting each other something many countries have failed to do before .
In terms of military classified capabilities we are only second to the Israeli mossad . 😎

tell them, what ails these bongolala is ignorance..

 

[joto la jiwe]

We have not needed to fight those wars that you have been fighting.

Like wise, have no reason for us to go to Somalia, I just wanted to show you how experienced our army is, just show me which war KDF won, if nothing then never compare inexperienced army with TPDF.

 

[vulcan]

Summary - Air Power
Kenya
Fighters - 17
Transport fixed wing - 22
Attack n Utility helicopter - 88
Trainer - 33
Surveillance Drones - 8

Tanzania
Fighters - 12
Transport fixed wing - 5
Attack n Utility helicopter - 8
Trainer - 8
Surveillance Drones - 0

Dude, hata border ya Namanga hamtafika

 

[joto la jiwe]

This is definite proof wewe si Mkenya. Huwezi kuwa unataka Kenya ishindwe vita ilhali eti wewe ni Mkenya na tukishindwa vita maisha yako itakuwa hatarini.

Huyo ndio Mkenya mzalendo anayeipenda nchi yake, anazungumza ukweli before is too late. Haiwezikane kujiingiza katika vita ambavyo unajua wazi kwamba utashindwa na watu wako kuuliwa eti kwa kisingizio cha kujipiga kifua, wakenya wote wenye akili wanajua hawawezi kupigana na Tanzania. Hivi unategemea wajaluo watapigana upande wa Jubilee iendelee kubaki madarakani wakati wanaamini waliiba kura?

 

[vulcan]

Like wise, have no reason for us to go to Somalia, I just wanted to show you how experienced our army is, just show me which war KDF won, if nothing then never compare inexperienced army with TPDF.

ha ha, we have liberated southern somalia towns from Al-shabaab, before we went to somalia, AU forces were defending Mogadishu.
They didn't have air-strike capabilities, their intelligence was in-sufficient..

Kenya in the 60s fought and won against somalia backed shifta bandits, and trust me, those days somalia was a real threat, Somalia was backed by the Soviets, Kenya had to even enter into a defense pact with Ethiopia against Somalia.

Kenya could have easily beaten Uganda in the same situation and in a easier way, no wonder Iddi-Amin attacked TZ though he had been threatening Kenya over other issues.

Kenya has had only 2 major conflicts - Alshabab War from 2011 and the Shifta war in the 60s, and these are more challenging theaters than the simple engagements that you boast of.

 

[stormryder]

ha ha, we have liberated southern somalia towns from Al-shabaab, before we went to somalia, AU forces were defending Mogadishu.
They didn't have air-strike capabilities, their intelligence was in-sufficient..

Kenya in the 60s fought and won against somalia backed shifta bandits, and trust me, those days somalia was a real threat, Somalia was backed by the Soviets, Kenya had to even enter into a defense pact with Ethiopia against Somalia.

Kenya could have easily beaten Uganda in the same situation and in a easier way, no wonder Iddi-Amin attacked TZ though he had been threatening Kenya over other issues.

Kenya has had only 2 major conflicts - Alshabab War from 2011 and the Shifta war in the 60s, and these are more challenging theaters than the simple engagements that you boast of.

You can only fight bandits, and you haven't won the war against Alshabab Yet! , Is Mogadishu Safe?,
So far Kenya haven't managed to create a strong and well functioning Government in Somalia, in Contrast We were able to occupy the whole of Uganda and built their Government, we did so in Zimbambwe, Rwanda, Msumbiji, Zambia, we do so in Burundi, we can even put Jaluo people in power

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

This is definite proof wewe si Mkenya. Huwezi kuwa unataka Kenya ishindwe vita ilhali eti wewe ni Mkenya na tukishindwa vita maisha yako itakuwa hatarini.

Wacha kukurupuka, Umeona wapi nimesema kenya itashidwa? Nimekwambia kwamba, vita si silaha na jeshi pekee, umoja wa wananchi ndio nguzo kubwa..
Leo Magufuli akisema anataka kuchukua maeneo ya ziwa victoria, Narok, kajiado, taita taveta, kwale na waswahili wa mombasa hakuna chochote uhuru atafanya. Maana wao wenyewe, wajaluo, wakuria, wamaasai, wataveta na waswahili wameteswa na serikali tangu 1963, hata ardhi si yao ni ya kenyatta. Hao hao ndio wata piga majeshi ya uhuru hata kabla magufuli ametuma JWTZ.
Bora Tu JPM awaahidi kwamba shamba zao watarudishiwa kutoka kwa katili kenyatta

 

[stormryder]

ha ha, we have liberated southern somalia towns from Al-shabaab, before we went to somalia, AU forces were defending Mogadishu.
They didn't have air-strike capabilities, their intelligence was in-sufficient..

Kenya in the 60s fought and won against somalia backed shifta bandits, and trust me, those days somalia was a real threat, Somalia was backed by the Soviets, Kenya had to even enter into a defense pact with Ethiopia against Somalia.

Kenya could have easily beaten Uganda in the same situation and in a easier way, no wonder Iddi-Amin attacked TZ though he had been threatening Kenya over other issues.

Kenya has had only 2 major conflicts - Alshabab War from 2011 and the Shifta war in the 60s, and these are more challenging theaters than the simple engagements that you boast of.

Occasionally Al-shabab launch attacks on your land.

 

[joto la jiwe]

ha ha, we have liberated southern somalia towns from Al-shabaab, before we went to somalia, AU forces were defending Mogadishu.
They didn't have air-strike capabilities, their intelligence was in-sufficient..

Kenya in the 60s fought and won against somalia backed shifta bandits, and trust me, those days somalia was a real threat, Somalia was backed by the Soviets, Kenya had to even enter into a defense pact with Ethiopia against Somalia.

Kenya could have easily beaten Uganda in the same situation and in a easier way, no wonder Iddi-Amin attacked TZ though he had been threatening Kenya over other issues.

Kenya has had only 2 major conflicts - Alshabab War from 2011 and the Shifta war in the 60s, and these are more challenging theaters than the simple engagements that you boast of.

Please tell me which war KDF has won since independence stop talking about defeat you are suffering from ill equipped Alshabaab, just they are using AK47, but killed more than 2000 KDF solders so far and Alshabaab continues to kill people inside Kenya territory.

Major aim of Kenya to send it's army to Somalia was to stop Alshabab from attacking and kidnappings, before KDF invasion to Somalia, Kenyans citizens were not targeted, but after invasion, Kenyans are killed daily, is that what you call wining?

 

[vulcan]

You can only fight bandits, and you haven't won the war against Alshabab Yet! , Is Mogadishu Safe?,
So far Kenya haven't managed to create a strong and well functioning Government in Somalia, in Contrast We were able to occupy the whole of Uganda and built their Government, we did so in Zimbambwe, Rwanda, Msumbiji, Zambia, we do so in Burundi, we can even put Jaluo people in power

what ??? you were able to create a govt in Uganda? then why was Museveni still fighting in the 80s ?Uganda was resurrected by Museveni. We can only help somalis defeat Al-Shabab to prevent a spill-over in Kenya, that is our interest for now.

These bandits that we are fighting are more difficult than the organized govts you defeated. Have you ever been in the Northern Frontier District and the somalia Border? TPDF cannot hold that territory.

 

[vulcan]

Please tell me which war KDF has won since independence stop talking about defeat you are suffering from ill equipped Alshabaab, just they are using AK47, but killed more than 2000 KDF solders so far and Alshabaab continues to kill people inside Kenya territory.

Major aim of Kenya to send it's army to Somalia was to stop Alshabab from attacking and kidnappings, before KDF invasion to Somalia, Kenyans citizens were not targeted, but after invasion, Kenyans are killed daily, is that what you call wining?

Kdf and the GSU fought and defeated the Shifta secessionists in the 60s.
There have been attacks in Kenya but that is collateral damage.. there was no way Kenya was to sit and watch a militia build-up next to its borders.

Al-shababs capabilities are greatly reduced.everyone knows that. This is a guerrilla warfare if you understand.
The British empire took 8yrs to quel the mau mau rebellion in Kenya when we were fighting using machetes and crude home-made weapons. If you don't understand the kind of enemy we are fighting then i can't help you.

In my opinion, Kenya is fighting a more difficult war than the wars you claim to have fought.

 

[Emc2]

Kdf and the GSU fought and defeated the Shifta secessionists in the 60s.
There have been attacks in Kenya but that is collateral damage.. there was no way Kenya was to sit and watch a militia build-up next to its borders.

Al-shababs capabilities are greatly reduced.everyone knows that. This is a guerrilla warfare if you understand.
The British empire took 8yrs to quel the mau mau rebellion in Kenya when we were fighting using machetes and crude home-made weapons. If you don't understand the kind of enemy we are fighting then i can't help you.

In my opinion, Kenya is fighting a more difficult war than the wars you claim to have fought.

Acha mbwembwe. Hakuna Kenya imewahi shinda.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Kdf and the GSU fought and defeated the Shifta secessionists in the 60s.
There have been attacks in Kenya but that is collateral damage.. there was no way Kenya was to sit and watch a militia build-up next to its borders.

Al-shababs capabilities are greatly reduced.everyone knows that. This is a guerrilla warfare if you understand.
The British empire took 8yrs to quel the mau mau rebellion in Kenya when we were fighting using machetes and crude home-made weapons. If you don't understand the kind of enemy we are fighting then i can't help you.

In my opinion, Kenya is fighting a more difficult war than the wars you claim to have fought.

Hahahahaha, because you can't defeat them then you think they are difficult to fight against?. For many years Ethiopian solders were in Somalia but never suffered the way KDF did in short period of being in Somalia, even Uganda and Burundi had been in Somalia longer than Kenya but not Killed the way KDF did, the only explanation is"KDF has no experience in battle field".

 

[vulcan]

Hahahahaha, because you can't defeat them then you think they are difficult to fight against?. For many years Ethiopian solders were in Somalia but never suffered the way KDF did in short period of being in Somalia, even Uganda and Burundi had been in Somalia longer than Kenya but not Killed the way KDF did, the only explanation is"KDF has no experience in battle field".

When you quote numbers out of ignorance and hate of the Kenyan republic it becomes difficult to engage in a meaningful discussion.
kenya has lost around 72 personnel from 2011, the total loss by the whole of Amisom force is over 1000 soldiers,

In turn KDF has killed over 700 militants. From these numbers tell me who is making the difference in Somalia.

When you decide to start mud smearing then i have no reply for you. Anyway its not something new from wabongo, just haters...and it's different from Ugandans, their opinion on the war is very different because they have been in somalia from 2007..bongolalas are only spectators.

 

[Hamster255]

Wacha kukurupuka, Umeona wapi nimesema kenya itashidwa? Nimekwambia kwamba, vita si silaha na jeshi pekee, umoja wa wananchi ndio nguzo kubwa..
Leo Magufuli akisema anataka kuchukua maeneo ya ziwa victoria, Narok, kajiado, taita taveta, kwale na waswahili wa mombasa hakuna chochote uhuru atafanya. Maana wao wenyewe, wajaluo, wakuria, wamaasai, wataveta na waswahili wameteswa na serikali tangu 1963, hata ardhi si yao ni ya kenyatta. Hao hao ndio wata piga majeshi ya uhuru hata kabla magufuli ametuma JWTZ.
Bora Tu JPM awaahidi kwamba shamba zao watarudishiwa kutoka kwa katili kenyatta

That fucker cant do anything but kill Tanzanians

 

[NDINDA]

This is Kenya Airforce current inventory

Fighter
Northrop F-5 fighter F-5E - 17

Reconnaissance
Cessna 208 surveillance / light transport - 1

Transport
Harbin Y-12 transport - 11
Antonov An-28 - 2 on order
DHC-5 Buffalo - 4
C-27J Spartan - 2 on order
Bombardier Dash 8 - 3

Helicopters
Bell UH-1 utility UH-1H - 8
Bell AH-1 attack AH-1F - 2
Mil Mi-17 utility / transport Mi-171 - 2
Harbin Z-9 utility - 6
Airbus H125M utility - 4
SA 330 Puma France utility / transport - 14
MD 500 Defender United States light attack 530F - 40 in service - 12 on order

Trainer Aircraft
Northrop F-5 conversion trainer F-5F - 4
Short Tucano trainer Tucano 51 - 12
Grob G 120 Germany trainer 120A - 6
Bulldog T1 United Kingdom basic trainer - 11



This is Tanzania Airforce
Shenyang F-7 fighter - 11
Shenyang J-6 China fighter FT-6 - 1
Reconnaissance
Seabird Seeker Jordan surveillance - 1
Transport
Antonov An-28 Poland transport - 1
Shaanxi Y-8 China transport - 2
Harbin Y-12 China transport - 2
Helicopters
Bell 412 United States utility - 2
Airbus H155 France utility - 2
Airbus H215 France utility - 2
Airbus H225 France utility - 2
Airbus H125M France utility Unknown number
Trainer Aircraft
Hongdu JL-8 China jet trainer K-8 - 5
Chengdu J-7 People's Republic of China conversion trainer FT-7 - 2
Shenyang J-6 People's Republic of China conversion trainer FT-6 - 1


These are just numbers on the Air force strength - they show which country is more equipped.
- key points - check - quality and size of fighter jets, attack air-craft and transport craft...then be honest not just shouting like Kinjikitile Ngwale

Does This one appear on the Tanzanian Side on your list?

 

[joto la jiwe]

When you quote numbers out of ignorance and hate of the Kenyan republic it becomes difficult to engage in a meaningful discussion.
kenya has lost around 72 personnel from 2011, the total loss by the whole of Amisom force is over 1000 soldiers,

In turn KDF has killed over 700 militants. From these numbers tell me who is making the difference in Somalia.

When you decide to start mud smearing then i have no reply for you. Anyway its not something new from wabongo, just haters...and it's different from Ugandans, their opinion on the war is very different because they have been in somalia from 2007..bongolalas are only spectators.

Why your government refused to give figure of solders killed during the above attacks?, many more are were taken as prisoners of war, the truth is during this single attack, more than 300 Kenyans were killed according to Alshabab, so Long as GoK decided to mute, then the number release by Alshaabab is true.

 

[Janerose mzalendo]

Hv hakuna vita vya kirafiki tucharaze hawa nyang'au maana wasomali watatu waliwashinda westgate itakuwaje tukipiga kambi ya 1 week

Hahahaha look who is talking. Nyie mnajua matusi tu online. Likija swala la vita heri mnyamaze.

 

[mulisaaa]

Mulisaa huwa unapotea mwezi mzima halafu unachipuza JF kwa mioto kwa siku mbili kisha unapotea tena. Bure kabisa

i travel a lot and too busy. Kwa sasa nipo free nipo Tanzania