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BelindaJacob
Umeachana na f1...kitambo sasa umepotea..
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Formula 1® Grand Prix special thread
Formula 1® Grand Prix special thread
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BelindaJacob
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Nilipoteza mwelekeo, hebu nirejee kidogo. Mambo mengi ila najipanga, Mkuu Kibunango
King Kong III
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Grand Prix nilikuwa naupenda sana huo mchezo sana around 1998!! About 23 yrs Ago.
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Formula 1 officials have rejected Mercedes' request for a review of Max Verstappen's driving during the Sao Paulo Grand Prix.
Stewards in Brazil ruled that there was no investigation necessary after Verstappen appeared to force Lewis Hamilton's Mercedes wide.
Governing body the FIA said Mercedes' appeal failed the test of raising significant new evidence into the case.
Hamilton later passed Verstappen to win the race last Sunday.
Mercedes had asked for the review on the basis that on-board camera footage from both cars had not been available when stewards made their decision not to investigate during the race.
The incident in question happened on lap 48 of the Sao Paulo Grand Prix at Interlagos.
Hamilton tried to overtake Verstappen around the outside of Turn Four but the Red Bull driver ran wide and both ended up off the track in the run-off area.
The Mercedes driver passed Verstappen 11 laps later and went on to win, cutting his deficit to the Dutchman in the championship to 14 points.
The Brazilian Grand Prix stewards were reconvened to hear Mercedes' request for a "right of review".
They determined that the on-board camera footage did meet the tests required of it being "new", "unavailable at the time of the decision" and "relevant" but they said it was not "significant".
The ruling said: "There is nothing in the footage that fundamentally changes the facts. Nor even does this show anything that wasn't considered by the stewards at the time."
Red Bull team principal Christian Horner said it was the "right decision".
Mercedes F1 boss Toto Wolff said the verdict was "completely expected" and that the team had succeeded in their aim of raising the matter as a point of discussion in the context of the intense title fight between the two drivers in the final three races of the season.
"It is more about the principle and the philosophy," Wolff said. "If it stays that way, it means overtaking from the outside is pretty much not possible any more because the inside controls the corner completely. You can see some of the drivers have expressed the same opinion.
"It is really important to understand what's on and what's not on because we don't want this championship to be decided by a controversial situation that ends up in the stewards' room. That's why now is the time to clarify the rules."
On Thursday, Ferrari's Charles Leclerc made the same point, saying: "If this is allowed then overtaking on the outside is going to be very difficult."
The drivers are expected to discuss the issue at their briefing with race director Michael Masi later on Friday.
The F1 rules say: "Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are strictly prohibited."
Horner added in a news conference on Friday alongside Wolff that Red Bull had questions about the legality of Mercedes' rear wing, which they believe is flexing on the straights and giving a speed advantage.
He refused to rule out making a protest against the Mercedes at one of the remaining races.
"We just want to ensure these cars are being scrupulously policed and are in full compliance," Horner said.
"If we believe the car is not in compliance, we will protest. The straight-line speeds we saw in Brazil, anyone can see was not a normal situation.
"When you see marks on wings that have been marking up from flexing, it's very clear what has been going on. You protest if you believe a competitor is not complying with the rules."
Wolff denied that the wing was illegal, said the wing had been inspected by the FIA and that "there is nothing on it that Red Bull expects there to be".
Horner challenged Wolff to explain how he could explain the scuff marks on the rear wing end-plate.
Wolff replied that any movement was within the compliance allowed in the rules.
Lewis Hamilton set a blistering pace to take pole position for the Qatar Grand Prix by nearly half a second.
Red Bull's Max Verstappen, 14 points ahead of Hamilton in the title race, was 0.455 seconds behind in second.
Hamilton's team-mate Valtteri Bottas was third, 0.196secs behind Verstappen with Alpha Tauri's Pierre Gasly fourth ahead of Alpine's Fernando Alonso.
Verstappen's team-mate Sergio Perez was only 11th, putting Red Bull at a strategic disadvantage for the race.
Mercedes review request of Verstappen Brazil move rejected
Game on ….. …… ….. ….
'We're understanding the car much better'
Mercedes have a one and three, with Max Verstappen in the middle, and here's team boss Toto Wolff on Sky Sports:
"We're understanding the car much better. The drivers are understanding the car much better. We just need to be vigilant. It's a very good car, the car has solid great straight-line speed, we just need to finish good tomorrow, score good points."
"We just need to go to Abu Dhabi and whoever wins, wins the championship.
"Brazil is water under the bridge. We don't want to have a messy situation tomorrow, in Saudi Arabia, in Abu Dhabi."
Stewards in Brazil ruled that there was no investigation necessary after Verstappen appeared to force Lewis Hamilton's Mercedes wide.
Governing body the FIA said Mercedes' appeal failed the test of raising significant new evidence into the case.
Hamilton later passed Verstappen to win the race last Sunday.
Mercedes had asked for the review on the basis that on-board camera footage from both cars had not been available when stewards made their decision not to investigate during the race.
The incident in question happened on lap 48 of the Sao Paulo Grand Prix at Interlagos.
Hamilton tried to overtake Verstappen around the outside of Turn Four but the Red Bull driver ran wide and both ended up off the track in the run-off area.
The Mercedes driver passed Verstappen 11 laps later and went on to win, cutting his deficit to the Dutchman in the championship to 14 points.
The Brazilian Grand Prix stewards were reconvened to hear Mercedes' request for a "right of review".
They determined that the on-board camera footage did meet the tests required of it being "new", "unavailable at the time of the decision" and "relevant" but they said it was not "significant".
The ruling said: "There is nothing in the footage that fundamentally changes the facts. Nor even does this show anything that wasn't considered by the stewards at the time."
Red Bull team principal Christian Horner said it was the "right decision".
Mercedes F1 boss Toto Wolff said the verdict was "completely expected" and that the team had succeeded in their aim of raising the matter as a point of discussion in the context of the intense title fight between the two drivers in the final three races of the season.
"It is more about the principle and the philosophy," Wolff said. "If it stays that way, it means overtaking from the outside is pretty much not possible any more because the inside controls the corner completely. You can see some of the drivers have expressed the same opinion.
"It is really important to understand what's on and what's not on because we don't want this championship to be decided by a controversial situation that ends up in the stewards' room. That's why now is the time to clarify the rules."
On Thursday, Ferrari's Charles Leclerc made the same point, saying: "If this is allowed then overtaking on the outside is going to be very difficult."
The drivers are expected to discuss the issue at their briefing with race director Michael Masi later on Friday.
The F1 rules say: "Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are strictly prohibited."
Horner added in a news conference on Friday alongside Wolff that Red Bull had questions about the legality of Mercedes' rear wing, which they believe is flexing on the straights and giving a speed advantage.
He refused to rule out making a protest against the Mercedes at one of the remaining races.
"We just want to ensure these cars are being scrupulously policed and are in full compliance," Horner said.
"If we believe the car is not in compliance, we will protest. The straight-line speeds we saw in Brazil, anyone can see was not a normal situation.
"When you see marks on wings that have been marking up from flexing, it's very clear what has been going on. You protest if you believe a competitor is not complying with the rules."
Wolff denied that the wing was illegal, said the wing had been inspected by the FIA and that "there is nothing on it that Red Bull expects there to be".
Horner challenged Wolff to explain how he could explain the scuff marks on the rear wing end-plate.
Wolff replied that any movement was within the compliance allowed in the rules.
Lewis Hamilton set a blistering pace to take pole position for the Qatar Grand Prix by nearly half a second.
Red Bull's Max Verstappen, 14 points ahead of Hamilton in the title race, was 0.455 seconds behind in second.
Hamilton's team-mate Valtteri Bottas was third, 0.196secs behind Verstappen with Alpha Tauri's Pierre Gasly fourth ahead of Alpine's Fernando Alonso.
Verstappen's team-mate Sergio Perez was only 11th, putting Red Bull at a strategic disadvantage for the race.
Mercedes review request of Verstappen Brazil move rejected
Game on ….. …… ….. ….
'We're understanding the car much better'
Mercedes have a one and three, with Max Verstappen in the middle, and here's team boss Toto Wolff on Sky Sports:
"We're understanding the car much better. The drivers are understanding the car much better. We just need to be vigilant. It's a very good car, the car has solid great straight-line speed, we just need to finish good tomorrow, score good points."
"We just need to go to Abu Dhabi and whoever wins, wins the championship.
"Brazil is water under the bridge. We don't want to have a messy situation tomorrow, in Saudi Arabia, in Abu Dhabi."
Wacha1
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Lewis Hamilton says Formula 1 is "duty bound" to raise awareness of human rights issues in Qatar at the country's maiden grand prix.
Good comment LH ...... .... Ding Dong.
Hamilton said: "As sports go to these places, they are duty bound to raise awareness for these issues. These places need scrutiny. Equal rights is a serious issue."
Qatar is holding its maiden F1 race this weekend and, from 2023, has a 10-year contract that is said to be the most lucrative in F1. Saudi Arabia makes its debut on the calendar in two weeks' time.
Hamilton added: "I am aware that in this place they are trying to make steps and it can't change overnight."
Good comment LH ...... .... Ding Dong.
Hamilton said: "As sports go to these places, they are duty bound to raise awareness for these issues. These places need scrutiny. Equal rights is a serious issue."
Qatar is holding its maiden F1 race this weekend and, from 2023, has a 10-year contract that is said to be the most lucrative in F1. Saudi Arabia makes its debut on the calendar in two weeks' time.
Hamilton added: "I am aware that in this place they are trying to make steps and it can't change overnight."
Black Sniper
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Naona wamekazana kuwatangaza LGBT [emoji2380] Mpaka helmet ya Hamilton
Dunia inaenda kasi mno
Naona ndio human rights anayoizungumzia hapo
Dunia inaenda kasi mno
Naona ndio human rights anayoizungumzia hapo
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