Has any Kenyan University produced a Kenyan or any African President?

[Chamoto]

Interesting.... I'm now beginning to doubt your presence in the above-claimed "accredited research University"

First, Your initial post claimed that:
"Most prestigious western education institutions recognize certificates of advanced level secondary education results of Tanzania. They don't do the same for Kenyans (KNEC)" This is clearly wrong and a simple search returned results showing that in each & every institution you named, there were more Kenyans than Tanzanians by a factor of about 7:1. Note that these numbers were specifically for country of origin and exclude US residents (which might push the Kenyan number higher). Meaning these are Kenyans who went through the KCSE system. How are there so many of them and so few Tanzanians if western education institutions don't recognise KNEC certificates but do so for Tanzanian ones? How are they getting into these institutions?🤔

The reason for our low numbers abroad is because Tanzanian system is set in such a way that it is not easy for an average person to leave the country. We're not encouraged to leave our country, to get a passport for the average citizen is too much of a burden.

Secondly, (and this makes me further doubt your presence in the named institution and degree of study) you seem to confuse University to University credit transfer systems with credit transfers to a University from a national examination body for high schools. For your information, nowhere in the world can you transfer credit from your high school exams into a university degree program simply because those systems are incomparable. If you were talking about having transferred credits from e.g. UDSM to Brown University in the states, I'd have lent you and ear, but from Azania Sec to Brown University?? That would be a major miracle & I'd be totally curious on how you managed to tackle yours.

What you don't understand is that Tanzania still has A' level system which covers a lot of college prerequisite materials, especially for science combination courses. The credits I was referring to came from that.

You are just confused because in Kenya you only have O' level (ordinary secondary level education). Which doesn't cover advanced courses like finding the volume of revolution of a curve or finding the estimation of how fast corona virus spread by using differential equation methods etc.

These subjects (calculus) you Kenyans learn in college, we learned them in "high school". If you don't know now you know.

 

[Muria]

The reason for our low numbers abroad is because Tanzanian system is set in such a way that it is not easy for an average person to leave the country. We're not encouraged to leave our country, to get a passport for the average citizen is too much of a burden.

What you don't understand is that Tanzania still has A' level system which covers a lot of college prerequisite materials, especially for science combination courses. The credits I was referring to came from that.

You are just confused because in Kenya you only have O' level (ordinary secondary level education). Which doesn't cover things like finding the volume of revolution of a curve or the estimation of how fast corona virus spread by using differential equation methods etc.

These things we learned in "high school". If you don't know now you know.

Wow. It is truly surprising how confident you are in your ignorance.

 

[Chamoto]

Wow. It is truly surprising how confident you are in your ignorance.

After break it down everything to you and still not getting it , I can tell that I'm dealing with a knucklehead. From now on I'm going to ignore your ass.

 

[Naxvegas254]

Still, those are independent nations, admitted by the UN and recognised by other nations. Tupe list yako ya peaceful nations, with high HDI led by an alumni of a Kenyan University.

Kenya

 

[Kafrican]

Kenyan University produces scientists, researchers and great intellectuals who go ahead to conquor the world in ther various professional capacities nyinyi mnajisifia kufundisha marais ma dictator!

 

[Kafrican]

Most prestigious western education institutions recognize certificates of advanced level secondary education results of Tanzania. They don't do the same for Kenyans (KNEC).

I myself, was able to transfer the equivalence of 33 credits as a prerequisite for my electrical and computer engineering degree, at an accredited research university. There are only 63 of these universities in the US including MIT, Stanford and Harvard.

Brother, don't let your mouth write a check you can't cash.

Ivy league universities hua zinakubali wanafunzi waliopita KCSE na kupata A au A-,infact kuna wanafunzi wengine hua wanapata double offers unapata jamaa amekubaliwa Oxford na stanford, yeye mwenyewe ndo anachagua


Kule marekani ambako zaidi ya 50% ya top 100 universities wanatoka huko, Kenya ni ya pili baada ya Nigeria kwa wanafunzi wanaosomea university za huko


Naigeria ndo inaongoza, ikifatwa na Kenya, Ghana, Ethiopia alafu South Africa

Tena ndani ya zile Ivy league universities Kenya bado tumo, Yale which is ranked 15th globally said Kenya has had the highest number of students from Africa for a long time, year in year out


According to Eddie Mandhry, Yale Director for Africa “Kenyans continue to hold the largest share of admissions to Yale from Africa, which shows the premium the country puts on quality education.” Data from Yale University provided information on the admission rates of African students with Kenyans taking the biggest slice of the pie with 24 admissions. Nigerian followed closely in admissions with 23 students, Zimbabwe secured the third spot with 18 admissions and South Africa were in last with 16 admissions.

Kenyans Bag Top Admissions To Ivy League Universities In The U.S

Kenyans take the lead in university admissions amongst African students. According to Eddie Mandhry, Yale Director for Africa "Kenyans continue to

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The Inter-University Council for East Africa (IUCEA) is a membership organization comprising about 100 public and private universities in the five East African countries of Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda and Burundi. It recently commissioned a survey of employers in the five countries to seek their views on the employability of graduates from its member universities.

The survey revealed some stark and disturbing facts. Between 51% to 63% of the graduates were found to be ‘half-baked’, ‘unfit for jobs’ and ‘lacking job market skills’. The worst records were in Uganda (63%) and Tanzania (61%).

Quality of Graduates in Africa

A survey by the Inter-University Council for East Africa revealed some stark and disturbing facts

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Ndani ya SA ambayo ndo iko na best Universities in Africa, USA na Kenya ndo nchi ziko na wanafunzi wengi huko SA nje ya nchi za SADC, Tanzania haimo top 10

South Africa remains an important regional hub for education

While the number of foreign students hosted has declined in recent years...

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Hebu sasa niambie, ni prestigious western education institutions gani hizi unazoongelea ambazo Watanzania wanakubalika kuliko wakenya

 

[Chamoto]

Ivy league universities hua zinakubali wanafunzi waliopita KCSE na kupata A au A-,infact kuna wanafunzi wengine hua wanapata double offers unapata jamaa amekubaliwa Oxford na stanford, yeye mwenyewe ndo anachagua

Sikuongelea kukubaliwa kujiunga na chuo (admission) bali kuingia chuo na matokeo ya sekondari (credit transfer from secondary school).

Mwanafunzi aliyefaulu vizuri KCSE akienda Marekani kusomea uhandisi anaanza na zero credit wakati mtanzania aliyefaulu ACSEE (Advanced Certificate of Secondary Education Examination) anaanza na credit si chini ya 30.

Hii inawezekana kwasababu courses za prerequisite (kama pure/applied math, univerity physics, organic/inorganic chemistry) ambazo unatakiwa uzijue kabla ya kufanya major courses (mfano circuit I and II), mwanafunzi wa Tanzania anakuwa ameshazisoma akiwa sekondari.

 

[Kafrican]

Sikuongelea kukubaliwa kujiunga na chuo (admission) bali kuingia chuo na matokeo ya sekondari (credit transfer from secondary school).

Mwanafunzi aliyefaulu vizuri KCSE akienda Marekani kusomea uhandisi anaanza na zero credit wakati mtanzania aliyefaulu ACSEE (Advanced Certificate of Secondary Education Examination) anaanza na credit si chini ya 30.

Hii inawezekana kwasababu courses za prerequisite (kama pure/applied math, univerity physics, organic/inorganic chemistry) ambazo unatakiwa uzijue kabla ya kufanya major courses (mfano circuit I and II), mwanafunzi wa Tanzania anakuwa ameshazisoma akiwa sekondari.

Kama ni hiyo unayiongelea basi hio si high school, hio ni advanced highschool.....ambayo ni sawa tu na 1st year au 2nd year university au mtu aliefanya Diploma huku kwetu ambao wanaruhusiwa ku transfere credit kwenda hizo western universities....


Tofauti hapo ni mfumo wa elimu tu, haina lolote linalohusu quality au qualification, hio ACSEE inafanywa na watu wanafunzi wa form 6 , huku kwetu mwisho wa sekondari ni form 4.

Ni kama vile tu ule mfumo mpya wa elimu huku kenya ambao utakua na Junior Secondary na Senior Secondary..Ukifika Senior secondary itakua ni sawa na hio level yenu ya ACSEE ambayo utakua unaweza ku transfer credit...... Mwanzo huu mfumo mpya wa elimu Kenya utaondoa kabisa mitihani ya certificate ya kufuzu... Itakua ni mfumo wa kufwata GPA badala ya sasa ambapo unafanya mtihani mmoja wa KCPE ukiwa kidado cha nane ndo ukipita unaenda sekondari, au KCSE ndo ina kupeleka University.....

kwa sasa mfumo wa 8-4-4 ,Ukimaliza Secondary uko na certificate, lakini kwa huo mfumo wa 2-6-3-3-3 itakuna ukimaliza Senior highschool uko level sawa na mtu wa diploma... So utakua ukienda university ng'ambo unaanza mbele ya wenzako manake tayari ulishanza masomo ya college ukiwa senior secondary.