TEMILUGODA
JF-Expert Member
- Feb 11, 2012
- 1,389
- 285
Majuha utayajua tu,hata kufikiri kidogo ni shida.
Hata kama ilipikwa.
Tunashukuru imeiva imepakuliwa na inaliwa sasa!
Hongera mahakimu na majaji mmetenda haki kwa Dr. Batilda.
lema ni racist na hafai katika taifa hili, huwezi gawa watu kwa misingi ya ukanda ,jinsia na udini.
Tangu jana nilielezea kwamba nimepata taarifa kuvuja kwa hukumu ya mh Lema. Mods aliunganisha link yangu na nyingine zilizokuwa zinashabihana na hilo. Kitaaluma mimi ni mwanasheria na hakika kila mwenye taaluma hii na aliyekuwa akifuatilia kesi atabaki mdomo wazi juu ya hukumu iliyotolewa. Huyu jaji alichofanya ni kucheza na akili za watu, na nina uhakika alikua na hukumu mbili mkononi.
Hata mwanafunzi wa sheria mwaka wa kwanza anajua kwamba katika 'tort' ili kosa lionekane limetendwa ni lazima aliyetuhumiwa athibitishe ameathirikaje na hizo tuhuma. Inakuwaje 3rd party ndo athibitishe hilo?
Batlida hajawahi kuja mahakamani. Kesi hii inaandika historia katika mhimili wa mahakama juu ya uhuru wake. Kuna haja ya majaji katika mahakama kuu kufanyiwa enterview kama kule kenya wanavyofanya. Hii hukumu imenikumbusha mengi katika tasnia ya sheria, daima itabaki kuwa kumbukumbu mbovu kwenye mhimili wa mahakama.
My learned friend, what kind of tort are you talking about? Go and dig deeper, there are precedents which may make an adjudicator dispense with such a general rule. Furthermore, the complainants were the ones needed to prove, the insulted person was just to be a witness needed not to prove damage on herself rather than proving the words were uttered. There was no need of calling her if the evidence adduced sufficed to convict the way the complainant contemplated. For example if I utter abusive words to your father at your presence, will you fail to prove damage or injury upon yourself? As you will be the complainant, your father's role will be to prove that there were such abusive words. Scout around my fellow learned friend.
hivi mkuu, hao jamaa waliomshtaki Lema wameathirika nini? Nikimtwanga swali mmojawapo anielezee namna alivyoathirika kweli ataweza? Mama muuza nyanya anadai ameathirika! Sio naleta dharau ila ukiangalia hapa unaona hakuna kesi kabisa.
Huyu hakujitoa kwa kupenda, wakili wa Lema alimtaka ajitoe kwa sababu alisema CHADEMA iliwataja mafisadi katika kampuni ya IMMMA kabla mheshimiwa huyu hajapata ujaji, kwa hiyo walikuwa na hofu asingetenda haki kwa Lema.
Was Batlida called before the Court to testify and prove if such abusive words were uttered against her by Lema..?
Tangu jana nilielezea kwamba nimepata taarifa kuvuja kwa hukumu ya mh Lema. Mods aliunganisha link yangu na nyingine zilizokuwa zinashabihana na hilo. Kitaaluma mimi ni mwanasheria na hakika kila mwenye taaluma hii na aliyekuwa akifuatilia kesi atabaki mdomo wazi juu ya hukumu iliyotolewa. Huyu jaji alichofanya ni kucheza na akili za watu, na nina uhakika alikua na hukumu mbili mkononi.
Hata mwanafunzi wa sheria mwaka wa kwanza anajua kwamba katika 'tort' ili kosa lionekane limetendwa ni lazima aliyetuhumiwa athibitishe ameathirikaje na hizo tuhuma. Inakuwaje 3rd party ndo athibitishe hilo?
Batlida hajawahi kuja mahakamani. Kesi hii inaandika historia katika mhimili wa mahakama juu ya uhuru wake. Kuna haja ya majaji katika mahakama kuu kufanyiwa enterview kama kule kenya wanavyofanya. Hii hukumu imenikumbusha mengi katika tasnia ya sheria, daima itabaki kuwa kumbukumbu mbovu kwenye mhimili wa mahakama.
Mimi mwenyewe nimeshangazwa sana na hukumu hiyo kwani kwa elimu ya sheria ya miaka mitatu niliyonayo mpaka sasa hata siku moja huwezi kutukia ushaidi wa 3rd party kumhukumu mtu kwa makosa ya tort, ni kama vile mhindi akutemee mate ya pariki halafu rafiki yako akashitaki na kudhibitisha mahakamani kwamba mate yalikuunguza, but hii ilionekana from the beginning kwani ndiyo sababu kubwa iliyomfanya jaji aliyekuwa anasikiliza kesi hiyo awali ajitoe mnamo tarehe 6 february mwaka huu kwa kusema siwezi kusikiliza na kutoa maamuzi ya kesi kama hii.
Tangu jana nilielezea kwamba nimepata taarifa kuvuja kwa hukumu ya mh Lema. Mods aliunganisha link yangu na nyingine zilizokuwa zinashabihana na hilo. Kitaaluma mimi ni mwanasheria na hakika kila mwenye taaluma hii na aliyekuwa akifuatilia kesi atabaki mdomo wazi juu ya hukumu iliyotolewa. Huyu jaji alichofanya ni kucheza na akili za watu, na nina uhakika alikua na hukumu mbili mkononi.
Hata mwanafunzi wa sheria mwaka wa kwanza anajua kwamba katika 'tort' ili kosa lionekane limetendwa ni lazima aliyetuhumiwa athibitishe ameathirikaje na hizo tuhuma. Inakuwaje 3rd party ndo athibitishe hilo?
Batlida hajawahi kuja mahakamani. Kesi hii inaandika historia katika mhimili wa mahakama juu ya uhuru wake. Kuna haja ya majaji katika mahakama kuu kufanyiwa enterview kama kule kenya wanavyofanya. Hii hukumu imenikumbusha mengi katika tasnia ya sheria, daima itabaki kuwa kumbukumbu mbovu kwenye mhimili wa mahakama.
Hata kama ilipikwa.
Tunashukuru imeiva imepakuliwa na inaliwa sasa!
Hongera mahakimu na majaji mmetenda haki kwa Dr. Batilda.
lema ni racist na hafai katika taifa hili, huwezi gawa watu kwa misingi ya ukanda ,jinsia na udini.
My learned friend, what kind of tort are you talking about? Go and dig deeper, there are precedents which may make an adjudicator dispense with such a general rule. Furthermore, the complainants were the ones needed to prove, the insulted person was just to be a witness needed not to prove damage on herself rather than proving the words were uttered. There was no need of calling her if the evidence adduced sufficed to convict the way the complainant contemplated. For example if I utter abusive words to your father at your presence, will you fail to prove damage or injury upon yourself? As you will be the complainant, your father's role will be to prove that there were such abusive words. Scout around my fellow learned friend.
tangu jana nilielezea kwamba nimepata taarifa kuvuja kwa hukumu ya mh lema. Mods aliunganisha link yangu na nyingine zilizokuwa zinashabihana na hilo. Kitaaluma mimi ni mwanasheria na hakika kila mwenye taaluma hii na aliyekuwa akifuatilia kesi atabaki mdomo wazi juu ya hukumu iliyotolewa. Huyu jaji alichofanya ni kucheza na akili za watu, na nina uhakika alikua na hukumu mbili mkononi.
Hata mwanafunzi wa sheria mwaka wa kwanza anajua kwamba katika 'tort' ili kosa lionekane limetendwa ni lazima aliyetuhumiwa athibitishe ameathirikaje na hizo tuhuma. Inakuwaje 3rd party ndo athibitishe hilo?
Batlida hajawahi kuja mahakamani. Kesi hii inaandika historia katika mhimili wa mahakama juu ya uhuru wake. Kuna haja ya majaji katika mahakama kuu kufanyiwa enterview kama kule kenya wanavyofanya. Hii hukumu imenikumbusha mengi katika tasnia ya sheria, daima itabaki kuwa kumbukumbu mbovu kwenye mhimili wa mahakama.
toka hapa,ndo maana jaji aliyetangulia aliikimbia kesi hii ya kihuni
wanasheria nao kujifanyia 'learned' zaidi ya wengine?! Sasa wewe unatuletea vingereza na torts za kwenye wikipedia! Ndo mnaochuuza nchi yetu,lakn kwa arusha wembe utakaotumika ni uleule wa arumeru. Haujaisha makali.My learned friend, what kind of tort are you talking about? Go and dig deeper, there are precedents which may make an adjudicator dispense with such a general rule. Furthermore, the complainants were the ones needed to prove, the insulted person was just to be a witness needed not to prove damage on herself rather than proving the words were uttered. There was no need of calling her if the evidence adduced sufficed to convict the way the complainant contemplated. For example if I utter abusive words to your father at your presence, will you fail to prove damage or injury upon yourself? As you will be the complainant, your father's role will be to prove that there were such abusive words. Scout around my fellow learned friend.
Me si mwanasheria ila tu kwa kifupi mtu yeyeote tu akifuatilia mwanzo wa kesi hii ya lema kwa hao third party kutoa ushahidi wao haunipi maelezo tosha kabisa inakuwa kama walipika vile kama kweli hao 3rd party walifungua kesi na kutoa ushahidi yet muhusika mkuu alistahiri kuja kutoa ushahidi nae.
Nafikiri hauko sahihi kwa maneno haya, ningetegemea uje na hoja nzuri tu kuelezea kuhusu thread hii. Hebu jaribu kurudia kusoma tena huu mchango wako utafakari kwa makini kama umeandika vizuri.