If Current Growth Rate Remains Constant, Tanzania Will Overtake Kenya GDP in 2038

If Current Growth Rate Remains Constant, Tanzania Will Overtake Kenya GDP in 2038

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kennedy0000 said:
Flower not so much. Production is still increasing even with the drought.
But even with the drought, projections are still at over 5%. It may go down 2 years, and then rise for 5 years.
If Kenya manages to do like 7% for 5 years, we'll now be looking at 2060s for Tanzania to overtake. This is assuming everything remains smooth in TZ.
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Maybe in Kenya you've attained miracles of growing flower without water. Even if the flowers are grown in green houses, water is still required to feed them.

I'm waiting to see Kenya archiving 7% economic growth, maana tokea Uhuru hiyo numba haijawahi kufikiwa. The chances are, it will never be archive with the amount of competition going on around the world. As the world is shying away from globalisation and embracing protectionism (which Kenya have becoming a champion the system), countries with less resources will struggle to find things to sale.
 
It'll stun you Mwanzi1 to learn that Kenya's gdp growth rate at 2010 was 8.4% and 7% at 2007.

The fact that the world as we progress is becoming more multinational controlled, and these multinationals are the exact proponents of globalization with cross-border branches dispels your claim of a less globalizing world. And Kenya has its fair share of multinationals, some going as far as other continents while some seem contended within the EAC, something of a rare commodity in Tanzania.

So the 7% growth rate is not only achievable as we have done it already, it's also surpassable.
 
Mwanzi1 said:
Maybe in Kenya you've attained miracles of growing flower without water. Even if the flowers are grown in green houses, water is still required to feed them.

I'm waiting to see Kenya archiving 7% economic growth, maana tokea Uhuru hiyo numba haijawahi kufikiwa. The chances are, it will never be archive with the amount of competition going on around the world. As the world is shying away from globalisation and embracing protectionism (which Kenya have becoming a champion the system), countries with less resources will struggle to find things to sale.
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Just because there's no rain it doesn't mean rivers have dried. Flowers are irrigated from rivers, and it would take many many years of drought to drain some permanent rivers.
What makes you think Kenya cannot achieve 7%? It was doing that quite recently.
Small countries might be unable to sell industrial stuff, but that's not the only contributor to GDP. Actually it has very little to do with Kenya's growth over the years.
We sell what other countries cannot produce. Tea, coffee, flowers, livestock especially to the middle east etc. If we find ways of adding value like selling processed coffee, we're sitting on billions of dollars.

Other contributors to GDP are tourism, transportation hubs etc. Uganda will still need to use a port come what may.
So, even with countries embracing protectionism, there are some things they can't do without.
 
mtanzania1989 said:
Hauwezi tumia simple interest rate kwa hesabu ya namna hii, unatakiwa utumie compound interest rate, huko Kenya mnafundishwa ujinga au ?
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Najua TZ masomo iko chini lakini jaribu kuficha aibu. Formula ni formula tu. It might be called the simple interest formula but it has many applications.
Purpose ni kuonyesha growth over time, ukiwa na known growth rate na starting amount (principal).
In case of the GDP, there are many factors in between, but hii ni yakuonyesha tu mwelekezo.
 
Mwanzi1 said:
Maybe in Kenya you've attained miracles of growing flower without water. Even if the flowers are grown in green houses, water is still required to feed them.

I'm waiting to see Kenya archiving 7% economic growth, maana tokea Uhuru hiyo numba haijawahi kufikiwa. The chances are, it will never be archive with the amount of competition going on around the world. As the world is shying away from globalisation and embracing protectionism (which Kenya have becoming a champion the system), countries with less resources will struggle to find things to sale.
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Actually, Kenya's economy was growing at 7% in the 70s! Surrpriseeee!
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/kenya-country-case.pdf
 
kennedy0000 said:
Najua TZ masomo iko chini lakini jaribu kuficha aibu. Formula ni formula tu. It might be called the simple interest formula but it has many applications.
Purpose ni kuonyesha growth over time, ukiwa na known growth rate na starting amount (principal).
In case of the GDP, there are many factors in between, but hii ni yakuonyesha tu mwelekezo.
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Mjinga akifundishwa uelewa, mpumbavu akielekezwa ushupaza shingo, hongera sana, unatoka katika kundi la ujinga hadi upumbavu kwa haraka sana.
 
mtanzania1989 said:
Tz hatuna wajinga wa namna hiyo, huyo ni mkenya wenu, mfundisheni kwanza tofauti ya simple interest rate na compound interest rate ndio aje kuongea hapa.
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Makosa nilifanya kuandika simple interest.
The right word for the calculator I used is savings interest. In other words compound interest.
Kumaanisha mwaka wa kwanza ikiwa 5% of 100, mwaka wa pili itakuwa 5% of 105... na inaendelea hivo ikijiongeza.
 
mtanzania1989 said:
Mjinga akifundishwa uelewa, mpumbavu akielekezwa ushupaza shingo, hongera sana, unatoka katika kundi la ujinga hadi upumbavu kwa haraka sana.
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Sawa msomi.. You can argue with CCM rhetoric and propaganda but you can't argue with numbers.
 
Ahaaa haaa haaa
You trolls who told you that we are obsessed with your mbofu mbofu growth.
 
Livale said:
It'll stun you Mwanzi1 to learn that Kenya's gdp growth rate at 2010 was 8.4% and 7% at 2007.

The fact that the world as we progress is becoming more multinational controlled, and these multinationals are the exact proponents of globalization with cross-border branches dispels your claim of a less globalizing world. And Kenya has its fair share of multinationals, some going as far as other continents while some seem contended within the EAC, something of a rare commodity in Tanzania.

So the 7% growth rate is not only achievable as we have done it already, it's also surpassable.
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It will be ingesting to know if 2010 was that a real GDP or nominal GDP, and why the pace could not be maintained?? Tupatie jibu.

I thought Kenya should've learn its lesson by now that you can't rely on things which are not yours, how many multinational stayed away after 2008 political turmoil? Unless your agree to kiss the west back side, multinational will always remain to be unreliable. Mjifunze kutunza ideas za kwenu (indigenous innovation), not sitting down waiting for idea thought elsewhere. Sometimes hizo idea zinafaa huko huko kwao na sio Africa.
 
kennedy0000 said:
Just because there's no rain it doesn't mean rivers have dried. Flowers are irrigated from rivers, and it would take many many years of drought to drain some permanent rivers.
What makes you think Kenya cannot achieve 7%? It was doing that quite recently.
Small countries might be unable to sell industrial stuff, but that's not the only contributor to GDP. Actually it has very little to do with Kenya's growth over the years.
We sell what other countries cannot produce. Tea, coffee, flowers, livestock especially to the middle east etc. If we find ways of adding value like selling processed coffee, we're sitting on billions of dollars.

Other contributors to GDP are tourism, transportation hubs etc. Uganda will still need to use a port come what may.
So, even with countries embracing protectionism, there are some things they can't do without.
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Yani, sijuwi niache tuu, maana hii ni maajabu ya Musa. To your knowledge, where is the river water comes from I mean what is the source of the river water.

On the different note, everything you mentioned above Tanzanian can do the same. In fact, we're doing right now, Its common to find Tanzania coffee or chocolate or wine in some US supermarket. Its 2017 and not 1977. There more players on the game now.
 
Iconoclastes said:
Actually, Kenya's economy was growing at 7% in the 70s! Surrpriseeee!
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/kenya-country-case.pdf
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In 70's Kenya was part of original EAC before you killed it in 1977. The main part of EAC infrastructure where tied together, the ports, the airways the roads etc. So saying that was Kenyan archiving mnajidanganya.

Kwanza angalia GDP figures between KE and TZ since Independence, how many time Kenyan economy has has gone on negative side compare to Tanzania? That shows who is more vulnerable when it come to economical stability.
 
Mwanzi1 said:
Yani, sijuwi niache tuu, maana hii ni maajabu ya Musa. To your knowledge, where is the river water comes from I mean what is the source of the river water.

On the different note, everything you mentioned above Tanzanian can do the same. In fact, we're doing right now, Its common to find Tanzania coffee or chocolate or wine in some US supermarket. Its 2017 and not 1977. There more players on the game now.
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Source of River water - Centuries of rain that 2 years of drought cannot completely drain.

Hakuna mtu amesema Tanzania haifanyi. Usichanganye mambo haiko kwa mada. This was about GDP growth rate, and why despite challenges in Kenya the GDP continues to grow.
I've explained to you that even if countries adopt protectionist policies, they will still have to import stuff they don't produce. Our tea, coffee, flowers, fruits, livestock exports grow each year hence our GDP growth.
Unless we have a civil war, this will not stop.
 
Mwanzi1 said:
In 70's Kenya was part of original EAC before you killed it in 1977. The main part of EAC infrastructure where tied together, the ports, the airways the roads etc. So saying that was Kenyan archiving mnajidanganya.

Kwanza angalia GDP figures between KE and TZ since Independence, how many time Kenyan economy has has gone on negative side compare to Tanzania? That shows who is more vulnerable when it come to economical stability.
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What about after 1977. I'm talking about the 80s, 90s, until now. In 1993, the gdp gap was $1.5 billion. Today it is over $20 billion. Yet Tanzania has not had any major political crisis. Moi took Kenya to the dogs, 2008 violence nearly finished us, but Tanzania is still blaming their state on the old EAC.
The only way we benefited from EAC collapse was with Kenya Airways. And it was not even the giant it is today. I think there were only 3 planes. And mind you, Kenya was shouldering the losses of EA Airways for years before the collapse. So it's like we were just taking back our money.
 
kennedy0000 said:
Source of River water - Centuries of rain that 2 years of drought cannot completely drain.

Hakuna mtu amesema Tanzania haifanyi. Usichanganye mambo haiko kwa mada. This was about GDP growth rate, and why despite challenges in Kenya the GDP continues to grow.
I've explained to you that even if countries adopt protectionist policies, they will still have to import stuff they don't produce. Our tea, coffee, flowers, fruits, livestock exports grow each year hence our GDP growth.
Unless we have a civil war, this will not stop.
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The next I'm expecting you to say is global worming isn't real. Yani drought of 2 years will not affect the river flow??? Really??? Hebu go and tell that to the elephants in Amboseli who dies everyday for luck of water. Nairobians are struggling to get reliable water supply wewe usema all is well. Wow...

Usikimbie mada, you mention tea coffee livestoke etc, na mimi i told you no one is sleeping we're doing it as well. The chances are Tanzania to get far with kind of financial discipline inayojengwa in Tanzania right now.
 
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