If God knows the future (omniscient), can you change your destiny?

If God knows the future (omniscient), can you change your destiny?

Mkuu wa chuo said:
Kwani mada itakuwa anaongelewa mtu!? au ni hoja zitakazokuwa zinajadiliwa? kumsambaratisha ni pamoja na kusambaratisha hoja zako? au unadhani ni kusambaratishwa kwa namna gani?
Click to expand...

Tofautisha "kumsambaratisha" na "kusambaratisha".

The former is about a person, the latter not necessarily so.

Righcha now me inna som' Collie Buddz vibe.

" I da appreciate if you can don't fling my name round so much
I tend to use it from time to time
And I need it in good condition
Especially wen yo mix around with people weh ah vise yo shine
And I don't appreciate wen yo confuse mih name and associate like ah frend ah mine
Me work hard fih everything ah hold keep ah clean heart, but still mih find"

Collie Buddz - Eyez
 
Kiranga said:
Tofautisha "kumsambaratisha" na "kusambaratisha".

The former is about a person, the latter not necessarily so.

Righcha now me inna som' Collie Buddz vibe.

" I da appreciate if you can don't fling my name round so much
I tend to use it from time to time
And I need it in good condition
Especially wen yo mix around with people weh ah vise yo shine
And I don't appreciate wen yo confuse mih name and associate like ah frend ah mine
Me work hard fih everything ah hold keep ah clean heart, but still mih find"

Collie Buddz - Eyez
Click to expand...
Acha kujitetea na kulalamika kama mtoto anaye onewa, kama huwezi debate just say you can't support your assumptions aka darwinicaco faith. More than that, tetea imani ya ya "negative god" ambaye hajulikani alipo.

JIBU SWALI: Prove your existence. Huwezi kimbia swali na kuendelea kutumia IGNORE OPTION pale unapo zidiwa.
 
Let's just say, for the sake of simplifying the argument, that I cannot prove that I exist. Forget how absurd this temporary and hypothetical position is, just focus on simplifying the argument.

How exactly does this prove that the omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent omnipresent godhead exists?

Cc CYBERTEQ Ibambasi Free ideas et al.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Kiranga said:
Let's just say, for the sake of simplifying the argument, that I cannot prove that I exist. Forget how absurd this temporary and hypothetical position is, just focus on simplifying the argument.

How exactly does this prove that the omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent omnipresent godhead exists?
Click to expand...

It is not for the sake of simplifying the argument. IT IS LIKE THAT. You are not talking to dem pickney bwouy.

Furthermore, you can't support your malarkey of "negative god" nor your notions that God does not exist.

Although, you have PROVED TO US THAT, you are a BLIND FOLLOWER of the diabolical cult that can not support her BLIND FAITH of believing in the "NEGATIVE GOD.

Are you sure that, "God does not exist" or you are certain that "[the negative god] together with her [opposite of faith]" does exist and you can support your dogma faith?
 
What is needed here is not a proof that Kiranga exists.

Kiranga has no grand claim to omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence or omnibenevolence.

What is needed is a proof that your godhead, who posses the above qualities, exista.

I haven't seen that proof.
 
Kiranga said:
What is needed here is not a proof that Kiranga exists.

Kiranga has no grand claim to omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence or omnibenevolence.

What is needed is a proof that your godhead, who posses the above qualities, exista.

I haven't seen that proof.
Click to expand...
LET US DEBATE

I will prove it to you that HE exist.

TAKE ME OUT OF YOUR IGNORE LIST, SO THAT I CAN PROVE IT TO YOU.

GUYS, TELL THIS PERSON, TO DEBATE WITH ME.

I WANT TO PROVE THAT GOD DOES EXIST.​
 
Mlaleo said:
Imeandikwa idadi ya watu watakao ingia Mbinguni ni Watakatifu 144,000 Yaani kila kabila la Israel watakaoingia Mbinguni ni Watakatifu 12,000 Mambo ya Ufunuo wa Yohana hayo.... hivyo na wewe lazima utakuwepo kwenye kabila moja wapo la waisrael kati ya hayo 12 Swali je wewe kwa kujipima... unafuata amri kumi za Mungu na je Unaweza kujitizama ukajiona kama u mtakatifu na unaweza enda Mbinguni.... je huna wivu ja unapenda watu wote au unampenda jirani yako kama unavyojipenda wewe? huibi kama ufisadi n.k je ni rahisi kwa tajiri kwenda mbinguni? je watakatifu wangapi wameshapita kukamilisha hiyo idadi ya 144,000 je kuna nafasi ngapi zimebakia?
Click to expand...

sasa ktk hayo makabila 12,sisi black 2po kabda gn ktk ya hayo makabila ya israel yamkini nikiona wote ni ma white.tafadhali naomba usaidizi hi k2 huwa inanichanganya sana hadi some tym nakosa imani na maandiko ya zamani
 
Personally I do believe that God exists. I don't know my fate, but worry not I still have faith to change my destiny for God is there to help me.
 
I also think that, one finding out his own destiny is impossible. Therefore no need to bother for unsolved mysterious.
 
Ishmael said:
LET US DEBATE

I will prove it to you that HE exist.

TAKE ME OUT OF YOUR IGNORE LIST, SO THAT I CAN PROVE IT TO YOU.

GUYS, TELL THIS PERSON, TO DEBATE WITH ME.

I WANT TO PROVE THAT GOD DOES EXIST.​
Click to expand...

Prove hapa muda huu, debate zilishafanywa na wakina Ham na Nye:
 
Last edited by a moderator:
NAAMINI said:
kwann ni topic ngumu na unauhakika gani ni topic ngumu....unazani ugumu wako ndo kila mtu gumu
Click to expand...
ugumu hapa unatokana na mimi kwenda mbali zaidi kutaka kuelewa saikolojia ya mungu....
(yaani mungu ananichukuliaje mimi kulingana na wengine?). wakati Christians believe God apenda watu wote. Meanwhile Allah asema fight and kill non belivers. So tukienenda kwa Christians tutapata shida kuwa na majibu. Tukienenda kwa dini ya muhammad jibu litakuwa rahis.

"Mungu ananichukuliaje mimi"--ndio inaenda kueleza kama wewe umeandikiwa kupotea yanini kujitaabisha wakati umeandikiwa kupotea na mwishowe utapotea haijalishi umetenda mema kiasi gani, umetoa zaka, sadaka kiasi gani..So sad.. Lakini kama umeandikiwa mbingu, basi pengine hata utende mabaya kiasi gani hopefull utaipata mbingu one day yes...Because God knows our destinies. and our future is already marked.We cant change it...may be we are fulfilling the prophecy
Unaona ilivyo ngumu lakini?
 
2013 said:
...Because God knows our destinies. and our future is already marked.We cant change it...may be we are fulfilling the prophecy...
Click to expand...
Mkuu 2013 unaamini hivyo au unataka kuamini hivyo??
 
Alola said:
Mkuu 2013 unaamini hivyo au unataka kuamini hivyo??
Click to expand...
nataka kuamini hivyo mkuu...
.........................................

mathayo 25: 34 Kisha Mfalme atawaambia wale walioko mkono wake wa kuume, Njoni, mliobarikiwa na Baba yangu, urithini ufalme mliowekewa tayari tangu kuumbwa ulimwengu;

Atukuzwe Mungu, Baba wa Bwana wetu yesu Kristo, aliyetubarikmi kwa baraka zote za rohoni katika ulimwengu wa roho ndani yake Kristo; kama vile alivyotuchagua katika yeye kabla ya kuwekwa misingi ya ulimwengu, ili tuwe watakatifu, watu wasio na hatia mbele zake katika pendo. Kwa kuwa alitangulia kutuchagua, ili tufanywe wanawe kwa njia ya Yesu Kristo, sawasawa na uradhi wa mapenzi yake. Na usifiwe utukufu wa neema yake, ambayo ametuneemesha katika huyo Mpendwa (Waefeso 1:3-6)

Mpango Wa Mungu Wa Milele - Shepherd Serve
 
2013 said:
nataka kuamini hivyo mkuu...
.........................................

mathayo 25: 34 Kisha Mfalme atawaambia wale walioko mkono wake wa kuume, Njoni, mliobarikiwa na Baba yangu, urithini ufalme mliowekewa tayari tangu kuumbwa ulimwengu;

Atukuzwe Mungu, Baba wa Bwana wetu yesu Kristo, aliyetubarikmi kwa baraka zote za rohoni katika ulimwengu wa roho ndani yake Kristo; kama vile alivyotuchagua katika yeye kabla ya kuwekwa misingi ya ulimwengu, ili tuwe watakatifu, watu wasio na hatia mbele zake katika pendo. Kwa kuwa alitangulia kutuchagua, ili tufanywe wanawe kwa njia ya Yesu Kristo, sawasawa na uradhi wa mapenzi yake. Na usifiwe utukufu wa neema yake, ambayo ametuneemesha katika huyo Mpendwa (Waefeso 1:3-6)

Mpango Wa Mungu Wa Milele - Shepherd Serve
Click to expand...

Umeishawahi kujiuliza kama hakuna mtu mkamilifu ni nani ataingia mbinguni na kwa kigezo kipi?
 
2013 said:
Nimewahi..I think neema.correct me
Click to expand...

Mkuu 2013 mi sina mamlaka ya kukusahihisha japo nashukuru kwa ushirikishwaji. Sasa kama unataka kuamini kuwa your future is already designed and you can't change it mi sioni haja ya kuendelea na pasua kichwa ya kujua Mungu anakufikiriaje unless you want to believe otherwise. Lah ujipe moyo kuwa Mungu anakuwazia mema tu hehehehe...kuna vitabu vingi vitakatifu kwa hiyo kutoa rejea ya kitabu kimoja bado inaweza isitosheleze. Labda kama wewe mwenyewe unataka majibu kutoka kitabu/vitabu fulani tu. Naimani wahusika wanaoamini kitabu hicho kwa 100% watakusaidia.
 
Alola said:
Mkuu 2013 mi sina mamlaka ya kukusahihisha japo nashukuru kwa ushirikishwaji. Sasa kama unataka kuamini kuwa your future is already designed and you can't change it mi sioni haja ya kuendelea na pasua kichwa ya kujua Mungu anakufikiriaje unless you want to believe otherwise. Lah ujipe moyo kuwa Mungu anakuwazia mema tu hehehehe...kuna vitabu vingi vitakatifu kwa hiyo kutoa rejea ya kitabu kimoja bado inaweza isitosheleze. Labda kama wewe mwenyewe unataka majibu kutoka kitabu/vitabu fulani tu. Naimani wahusika wanaoamini kitabu hicho kwa 100% watakusaidia.
Click to expand...

Ha ha ha. That's why niliona hii topic ngumu.ungeendelea tu mkuu...binafsi mi ni junior kwenye hii topic.m learning from ya'll
 
Alola. Ungetumia kitabu chochote kufikia lengo mkuu.sipo self centered kwenye topic per set.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
2013 said:
Alola. Ungetumia kitabu chochote kufikia lengo mkuu.sipo self centered kwenye topic per set.
Click to expand...
"As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless."
(Bhagvad Gita 2:22)

Mkuu 2013 can you swallow that? hiyo sio kuokoka, maana kuna concept ya 'born again' lakini hiyo ni 'rebirth'.
Trust me itabidi uchague kitabu kimoja mkuu la sivyo utatawanyika vibaya he he he. Kuna Jews kabbalah, baghvad gita, vedas, uparishad, christian bible, quran na vingine vingi... na kila kimoja kina mythology na perspective yake. Kwahiyo lazima uwe na rejea moja ambayo itabidi ijibu doubts zote.




 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Our Community

Regional Communities

Back
Top Bottom
Menu
Forums
New posts
Log in
Register