Is Atheism Satanism?

Ishmael · Apr 5, 2015

descarte said:
this statement is just Rubbish also

Muslims are non theists. Why do I say this? The modern perceptive on non theism is that it signifies no belief in God's existence or the existence of anything supernatural. While this is true in the modern sense, non theism can also indicate a disbelief in orthodox doctrines. Both non theism and Islam want to force an elitist way of thinking onto Christianity. The non theist sees the sonship of Christ, the divinity of Christ, the Incarnation, in which God became man, and laughs at such beliefs as silly. The Muslim does the same thing.

descarte · Apr 7, 2015

Ishmael said:
Muslims are non theists. Why do I say this? The modern perceptive on non theism is that it signifies no belief in Gods existence or the existence of anything supernatural. While this is true in the modern sense, non theism can also indicate a disbelief in orthodox doctrines. Both non theism and Islam want to force an elitist way of thinking onto Christianity. The non theist sees the sonship of Christ, the divinity of Christ, the Incarnation, in which God became man, and laughs at such beliefs as silly. The Muslim does the same thing.

Do not judge people's faith based on your personal beliefs. i think you do not have that right cuz everyone holds on his religion to be true.

Ishmael · Apr 7, 2015

descarte said:
Do not judge people's faith based on your personal beliefs. i think you do not have that right cuz everyone holds on his religion to be true.

EXHIBIT
Both Non-theists and Muhammadans hate Black Africans.
Islam:
1. Prophet Muhammad said Black Africans looks like Satan….
Non theists:
2. Black Africans are savages and less intelligent beings and should be eliminated.As you can see, both non-theists and Muslims are racial profiling Black Africans.

descarte · Apr 7, 2015

Ishmael said:
EXHIBIT
Both Non-theists and Muhammadans hate Black Africans.
Islam:
1. Prophet Muhammad said Black Africans looks like Satan.
Non theists:
2. Black Africans are savages and less intelligent beings and should be eliminated.As you can see, both non-theists and Muslims are racial profiling Black Africans.

PROPAGANDA, give facts in what you are saying,

Ishmael · Apr 7, 2015

descarte said:
PROPAGANDA, give facts in what you are saying,

Those are impeccable facts and you can not refutes them.

descarte · Apr 7, 2015

Ishmael said:
Those are impeccable facts and you can not refutes them.

According to who they impeccable facts?. what qualifies them to be impeccable facts?

Ishmael · Apr 7, 2015

descarte said:
According to who they impeccable facts?. what qualifies them to be impeccable facts?

Prophet Muhammad and charles darwin.

descarte · Apr 7, 2015

Ishmael said:
Prophet Muhammad and charles darwin.

you have not said anything apart from mentioning names of people

myoyambendi · Apr 8, 2015

Ishmael said:
EXHIBIT
Both Non-theists and Muhammadans hate Black Africans.
Islam:
1. Prophet Muhammad said Black Africans looks like Satan.
Non theists:
2. Black Africans are savages and less intelligent beings and should be eliminated.As you can see, both non-theists and Muslims are racial profiling Black Africans.

Hoja zako hewa dogo

Bill Cosby · Apr 8, 2015

Ishmael said:
Prophet Muhammad and charles darwin.

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Ishmael · Apr 8, 2015

myoyambendi said:
Hoja zako hewa dogo

Refute my arguments if you can. You and non theists denies the existence of God and both practice satanism.

Ishmael · Apr 8, 2015

Bill Cosby said:
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Satan: A Co-Occupier of Allah's Throne or Allah in Disguise?

And He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days - and His Throne was upon the water - that He might try you, which of you is best in conduct. ... S. 11:7

The allegedly sound reports also testify that Allah's throne is situated upon the water:

Narrated Imran bin Husain:
I went to the Prophet and tied my she-camel at the gate. The people of Bani Tamim came to the Prophet who said "O Bani Tamim! Accept the good tidings." They said twice, 'You have given us the good tidings, now give us something" Then some Yemenites came to him and he said, "Accept the good tidings, O people of Yemen, for Bani Tamim refused them." They said, "We accept it, O Allah's Apostle! We have come to ask you about this matter (i.e. the start of creations)." He said, "First of all, there was nothing but Allah, and (then He created His Throne). His throne was over the water, and He wrote everything in the Book (in the Heaven) and created the Heavens and the Earth." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 414)

And:

Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "Allah said, 'Spend (O man), and I shall spend on you." He also said, "Allah's Hand is full, and (its fullness) is not affected by the continuous spending night and day." He also said, "Do you see what He has spent since He created the Heavens and the Earth? Nevertheless, what is in His Hand is not decreased, and His Throne was over the water; and in His Hand there is the balance (of justice) whereby He raises and lowers (people)." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 206)

The reason why this happens to be the most fascinating aspect of Allah's throne is because, according to the same so-called authentic ahadith, Satan's throne is also located upon the water!

Jabir reported: I heard Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The throne of Iblis is upon the ocean and he sends detachments (to different parts) in order to put people to trial and the most important figure in his eyes is one who is most notorious in sowing the seed of dissension. (Sahih Muslim, Book 039,Number 6754)

And:

Jabir reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Iblis places his throne upon water; he then sends detachments (for creating dissension); the nearer to him in tank are those who are most notorious in creating dissension. One of them comes and says: I did so and so. And he says: You have done nothing. Then one amongst them comes and says: I did not spare so and so until I sowed the seed of discord between a husband and a wife. The Satan goes near him and says: You have done well. A'mash said: He then embraces him. (Sahih Muslim,Book 039, Number 6755)

Finally:

Abu Sa'id reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) met him (Ibn Sayyad) and so did Abu Bakr and 'Umar on some of the roads of Medina. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Do you bear testimony to the fact that I am the Messenger of Allah? Thereupon he said: Do you bear testimony to the fact that I am the messenger of Allah? Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: I affirm my faith in Allah and in His Angels and in His Books, and what do you see? He said: I see the throne over water. Whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: You see the throne of Iblis upon the water, and what else do you see? He said: I see two truthfuls and a liar or two liars and one truthful. Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Leave him He has been confounded. (Sahih Muslim, Book 041, Number 6992)

In conclusion we would like to say that no matter how a Muslim seeks to reconcile these statements this fact remains crystal clear - Muslims you have a major problem on your hands!

Ishmael · Apr 8, 2015

descarte said:
you have not said anything apart from mentioning names of people

That is all you need to know.

Bill Cosby · Apr 8, 2015

Ishmael said:
Refute my arguments if you can. You and non theists denies the existence of God and both practice satanism.

Is this whome you call it God?

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Ishmael · Apr 8, 2015

Bill Cosby said:
Is this whome you call it God?

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descarte · Apr 8, 2015

Ishmael said:
That is all you need to know.

In fact up to now you have not establish the existence of Satan rationally. you just talk air

TanzaniaLaw · Apr 10, 2015

descarte said:
In fact up to now you have not establish the existence of Satan rationally. you just talk air

Support your belief. It seems you can't.

descarte · Apr 10, 2015

TanzaniaLaw said:
Support your belief. It seems you can't.

My belief is that Satan does not exist, the concept of satan is purely mental construction. Satan only exist intentionally. Therefore if you deny this, then provide reasons for the existence of satan

TanzaniaLaw · Apr 13, 2015

descarte said:
My belief is that Satan does not exist, the concept of satan is purely mental construction. Satan only exist intentionally. Therefore if you deny this, then provide reasons for the existence of satan

Now, support your belief with evidence.

descarte · Apr 13, 2015

TanzaniaLaw said:
Now, support your belief with evidence.

young man, In a question like Satan you do not ask for evidences,We do ask for reasons of why you believe to be so. Therefore, your claim is irrelevant to the question of satan

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