Is non theism mindless?
Is non theism mindless?
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Mzuvendi
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Before I do that, please give me the thesis of your argument and at least three points which support it.
Ishmael
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I'm arguing against non theism. If non theism is true, we are nothing but chemicals machines. Chemical machines can have no morality because they have no free-willed choice.
Now:
If we are 100% chemical animals and our chemicals cause child rape, why is child rape morally wrong?
Why is the child rapist morally culpable when he has no free-will choice?
Answer the questions?
Mzuvendi
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Whether non theism is true or not, we are chemical machines. So the premise you use to build up the foundation of your argument is illogical and we, therefore, don't need to answer the subsequent questions. I don't have to look further than the Bible or Koran to prove that you are a chemical machine.
And the Lord God formed man of the dust (chemical compounds) of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul (Genesis 2:7).
"I am going to create a human being out of clay (chemical compounds). When I have formed him and breathed My Spirit into him, fall down in prostration to him!" (Qur'an, 38:71-72)
TanzaniaLaw
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So, you do believe in God.
Nkwesa Makambo
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Umechagua kasehemu Tu, hujaona ...breath of life...Kama ni sehemu ya Umbaji wa ulichoona ni Chemical compound 100% ?
Breath of life ni chemical compound pia ?
Nkwesa Makambo
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Why don't you debunk his points accordingly to prove your stance ?
Anheuser
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You said "something can not begin from nothing without a cause."
So let's repeat the question: What cause did God begin from?
Mzuvendi
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Sir why should I debunk him? He tries to use logic to build the foundation of his argument; however, the logic itself simply doesn't hold water.
Mzuvendi
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I way trying to imply that we are indeed chemical machines. We have evolved, from dust to modern humans.
Nkwesa Makambo
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Every object that come into BEING / EXISTENCE must have a cause.
God is eternal he never come into BEING /EXISTENCE; that means his existence does not require a CAUSE.
God is a necessity not a contingent ...
For object to qualify for a cause must come into existence...as universe and other matters, plus time and space.
Nkwesa Makambo
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What about part played by spirit ? Are complete human without the spirit ?
Nkwesa Makambo
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Is that the world view or your view ? Can you understand that; to a great existent what are called world problem are caused by science in reducing the broader picture of world into simple questions that have to be answered by the same world ?
Nkwesa Makambo
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To be honest; you argument could sound by debunking and showing him point by point how his logic does not hold water.
Please work on it
Nkwesa Makambo
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Is the definition "religious"; "scientific" or ?
That is where our problem lies; definitions
Nkwesa Makambo
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Mine is "Jesus Christ"
Uso wa nyoka
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I hope they answer that!
Uso wa nyoka
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Hahaha! Kumbe Umeliona hilo mkuu?