Islam’s role in Tanzania’s freedom struggle


Wewe unanipa kazi ya kufuatilia post za Mohamed said ninayemjua na nini anachosimamia? Hata hivyo nilikuona unataka kujua kumbe ni mpuuzi unaemtukana sheki Mohamed said.



Nanren said:
Should I be concerned of what gombesugu thinks of me? Should I care that Moh' Said doesn't respond to my post?Think again!!

Yes, nimemuita Moh' Said ni Mfitini (na ni ukweli, anafitinisha jamii), kama wewe unavyoniita mkorofi.

Asante.
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Hapa ndio sura yako halisi nilipoijua sasa. Take your time.
 
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Akhy gombesugu nimezisoma bayana zako vizuri sana na precaution uliyotoa nitaizingatia vizuri sana. Atleast naifahamu kiduchi historia ya Iran, Israel na Saudia na bila shaka ina uwanja wake mpana sana wa kuyajadili na jukwaani hapa hapatoshi kabisa. ABDULLAH NASRI namfahamu vizuri sana unajua ameshawahi kuwapo pale nyumbani Tanga kabla ya kuwa upande huo aliopo kwasasa. Tuko pamoja sana na tuendeleze undugu wetu.
 
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Naona hapa kuna maRPC,SACP,Colonel,General Manager,Principal Secretary,Chief Engineer,maBusinesswomen,MaBrigeder,maDr wakubwa na wengine chief medical officer wa Nyerere ..........unazidi kufuta ile dhana ya Sheikh Mohamed awamu ya Nyerere kulikuwa ba ubaguzi wa kidini.Asante gombesugu unazidi kumvua nguo hadharani mzee wako wa gerezani.


 
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CHAMVIGA said:
Wewe unanipa kazi ya kufuatilia post za Mohamed said ninayemjua na nini anachosimamia? Hata hivyo nilikuona unataka kujua kumbe ni mpuuzi unaemtukana sheki Mohamed said.





Hapa ndio sura yako halisi nilipoijua sasa. Take your time.
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Sawa. To hell with you.
 

Nyie vikojozi Ngongo na huyo mwenzako Nanren hamna wazazi kwenu!?
Mbona mnaingia kwenye ukumbi wa waungwana kama mnaingia chooni!?
Au nyie ndio vile vizazi vya bahati mbaya?
Hebu ongeeni kama mna meno! Sio kuropoka tu kama kwenye zile ngoma zenu za mdundiko!

Hapa sio kule uswahili mliko kulia.!
Samaki wabovu nyie!

Mnfnsssssssss!

I'm watching you!!
 
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Waungwana wenyewe ndio wanaandika pumba kama hizi? Waungwana my foot!
Hivi tukimwita huyu mfitini wenu majina kama hayo ya "kikojozi" n.k utajisikiaje?
 
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Gombesugu,
Ahsante sana kwa taarifa hii.

Msiba wa Sheikh Ramia mimi binafsi ulinifikia usiku tunaswali tarweh Msikiti wa Msasani ule
wa zamani pale pwani.

Nakuwekea hapa chini nani na nani walimjulisha Nyerere kwa Sheikh Mohamed Ramia:

TANU, New Street 1955

It was Idd Faiz and his brother Idd Tosiri who introduced Nyerere to their cousin Sheikh
Mohamed Ramia of Bagamoyo.

It was this introduction and the friendship which ensued therefrom which helped TANU
make inroads and Nyerere to be accepted in Bagamoyo.

Sheikh Ramia was a very influential man and was among the most respected scholars of
his time.

Nothing could take root in Bagamoyo without his support and consent. [1]

He was at that time the Khalifa of Tariqa Qadiriya which was founded by his father Sheikh
Yahya Ramia at the turn of the century.
[1]On the role of Sheikh Mohamed Ramia in TANU see August H. Nimitz ‘The Role of Sufi
Order in Political Change.' Ph.D Thesis, Indiana University, 1973. Also Islam and Politics in
East Africa, University of Minnesota Press, Minnapolis, 1980.

Shariff Ritz,
Hebu nifahamishe.

Katika historia ya Kivukoni habari za watu hawa zimo?
Kama hazimo ni kwa sababu hawazijui au hawakuzitaka?
 

Nguruvi,
Hilo la ukarimu wa wazee wetu nishalieleza na sina sababu ya kulirejea ingawa naona
limekuchoma sana ingawa kwangu mimi sioni kwa nini iwe hivyo.

Udhalimu wa Sykes Mbuwan kuja Tanganyika na Herman Von Wissman kama jeshi la
mamluki wa Kizulu kuja kupambana na Watanganyika, Chief Mkwawa na Bushiri bin
Harith ni sawa na udhalimu wa babu yangu mkuu Samitungu Muyukwa Mwekapopo
aliyeingia Tanganyika na jeshi la Kijerumani kuja kupambana na Watanganyika.

Lakini haya yote ndiyo madhila ya ukoloni.

Tuangalie nini watoto wa hawa mamluki walifanya katika historia ya Tanganyika.
Mtoto wa Sykes Mbuwane, Kleist Sykes historia yake imehifadhiwa na inajulikana.

Babu yangu Salum Abdallah mtoto wa Samitungo Mwekapopo yeye alikuwa mstari
wa mbele katika TAA na TANU na katika harakati za wafanyakazi.

Aliongoza mgomo wa 1947 na 1949 na 1955 alikuwa rais muasisi wa Tanganyika
Railway African Union katibu akiwa Kassanga Tumbo.

Babu yangu alihudhuria mikutano yote ya siri 1953 iliyokuwa ikifanya Tabora Town
School kuweka mazingira sawa kabla Germano Pacha hajakwenda Dar es Salaam
kuasisi TANU akiwa mwakilishi kutoka Western Province.

Bwana Nguruvi,
Wewe babu zako hawakuwa MADHALIM kama babu zangu mimi.

Hebu ueleze ukumbi nini mchango wao katika kupambana na dhulma za wakoloni?
Nasubiri jibu.
 
Nanren said:
Waungwana wenyewe ndio wanaandika pumba kama hizi? Waungwana my foot!
Hivi tukimwita huyu mfitini wenu majina kama hayo ya "kikojozi" n.k utajisikiaje?
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Nanren,
Mimi si fundi wa matusi.

Kipaji hiki kwangu mie kigeni.
Lakini kwa hoja sina wasiwasi.

Ukinitukana mimi ni sawa umewatukana hawa ambao nimewataja hapo chini:
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[TD]Another place which Mwalimu Nyerere frequented during those early days was the Kariakoo Market.

Kariakoo Market building housing the market resembled a huge shack made of steel, concrete and corrugated iron sheets.

The market was busy around the clock with all kind of business being carried inside the market and within its environs.

One could tell the tribe of the traders from the kind of trade he or she was engaged in. The Mashomvi were selling fish, the Zaramo were into coconut business, the Nyamwezi particularly women confined themselves to selling dried tobacco leaves and snuff, and their men were selling yams grown in Kigamboni.

The Luguru were into oranges and vegetables.

Arabs owned butchers and sold flour, cereals and spices. This retail business Arabs were in competition with Indians.

Kariakoo Market was a fertile place for TANU to recruit members and Abdulwahid did not lose that opportunity.

Among the traders to support TANU from Kariakoo Market was Mzee Mshume Kiyate.

At that time in 1952 when Abdulwahid Sykes met Mwalimu Julius Nyerere he was working as Market Master of Karikoo Market.

His office was at the junction of Tandamti Street (now Mshume Kiyate) and Swahili Street.

The afternoon after resigning from teaching Mwalimu Nyerere took a bus from Pugu and got off at Kariakoo which was the main stand and went straight to Abdulwahid's office to give him the news.

Abdulwahid accommodated Mwalimu Nyerere at his house at Stanley Street until when Mwalimu left for to Butiama to get married to Mama Maria.

This house exists today but has undergone massive renovations altering its original look.

Shariff Attas who was working as market auctioneer recalls that he used to escort Mwalimu Nyerere from Abdulwahid's office to Sykes' house for lunch wait for him and come back together.

Mwalimu would sit in Abdulwahid's office reading The Tanganyika Standard.

After closing of business at 4.30 Abdulwahid and Nyerere would come back home together.

Many people in Dar es Salaam first saw and therefore came to know Mwalimu Nyerere during that time.

During this period Abdulwahid nearly lost his job as Market Master when Nyerere and TANU's message began to be understood by the people.

Abdulwahid was accused of selling TANU cards in Her Majesty's Office.

Shariff Attas recalls the thrilling shouting match between Abdulwahid Sykes and the white colonial officer inside Sykes's office when Abdulwahid in his impeccable English and without fear took out his TANU card and challenged the mzungu to take him to court if he feels he has contravened any law and TANU was not a legally registered party.

The veranda which used to be a meeting place where TANU leadership used to hold its meetings and where many people came to know Mwalimu Julius Nyerere is now a bazaar, the people who come to the place to buy and sell completely unaware of its rich history.

But the liveliest meeting place – Mwalimu Nyerere frequented outside the ‘Sunday Baraza' at Congo and Stanley Street at Dossa's house and Sykes' place was at Sheikh Suleiman Takadir's auction mart.

Sheikh Takadir was the Chairman of the TANU Elders Council the powerful body which had people like Mshume Kiyate, Mwinjuma Mwinyikambi, Jumbe Tambaza and others as members.

Sheikh Takadir was an auctioneer and was conducting his business from a house situated at Nyamwezi Street belonging to Mwinjuma Digosi, a jumbe appointed by the government.

The auction used to be the meeting place of TANU members.

TANU members used to meet at Sheikh Takadir's premises to drink coffee discuss politics and while away the time.

When Digosi, the landlord realised that Nyerere was visiting Sheikh Takadir at his place of business, he asked Sheikh Takadir to seek accommodation elsewhere.

He told Sheikh Takadir that he could no longer have him as a tenant because he as a jumbe appointed by the government cannot allow his house to be a meeting place of ‘troublemakers' like Nyerere and other riff - raffs.

Sheikh Takadir had no choice but to shift his business to Msimbazi Street.

Sheikh Suleiman Takadir was to oppose Nyerere's decision to participate in the controversial tripartite election of 1958 and the two became bitter enemies never to reconcile resulting into expulsion of Sheikh Takadir from TANU.[/TD]
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Mkuu Mohamed Said
Pamoja na tofauti zetu za kimtazamo, bado nitakufagilia kwa "utu uzima" wako tofauti kabisa na vijana wako unao wa-mentor hapa jamvini. My apologies kwa nilipokukwaza. Ila I just wish kwamba ungewasaidia vijana wanaotetea hoja zako, nao wasitumie matusi. I believe kutoka mwanzo wa thread hii, utaona lugha wanayotumia ni ile isiyopendeza, japo huwa wanamalizia na "kwi kwi kwi" au "teh teh teh" za kinafiki.
OK,
Tupo pamoja.
 
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Nanren said:
Waungwana wenyewe ndio wanaandika pumba kama hizi? Waungwana my foot!
Hivi tukimwita huyu mfitini wenu majina kama hayo ya "kikojozi" n.k utajisikiaje?
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We una elimu gani ya kumuita mtu pumba!
Maskini hujitambui na elimu yako ya kata!
Kwanza shukuru kuna majukwaa kama haya ya bure lkn mtu kama wewe angekufa bila kupata nafasi ya kuongea na wasomi kama maalim MS.

Maneno yako ni dalili tosha kuwa hukupata malezi ya baba!
Na hii inatokana na kuzaliwa uswahilini ktk nyumba za wapangaji wengi! Baba humjui!
Kuwa na adabu unapoongea na watu wazima.
Au itabidi tumtafute huyo balozi wako wa nyumba kumi akuonye! Manake mzee wako ndo hivo tena.
 

Nanren.

Hivi kucheka teh teh teh! au Kwi kwi kwi...ni matusi.
 
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Sawa Mzee MS.

Sikumbuki kama umewahi kumnunulia JK kitoweo, malazi au sigara. Kwa maana nyingine hujawahi ahidiwa kitu na JK.

Ama kuhusu maana ya kusengenya mimi nimefanikiwa kupata hii hapa ya Sahih Muslim, na inakuenea kama nguo ya kupima. Labda sheikh ana wazo tofauti, inshallah;

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (صلى الله عليه و سل&#1605😉 as saying: Do you know what is backbiting? They (the Companions) said: Allah and His Messenger know best. Thereupon he (Allah’s Messenger) said: Backbiting implies your talking about your brother in a manner which he does not like. It was said to him: What is your opinion about this that if I actually find (that failing) in my brother which I made a mention of? He said: If (that failing) is actually found (in him) what you assert, you in fact backbited him, and if that is not in him it is a slander. [Sahih Muslim: 2589]


Wasalaam
 

Wickama,
Poor you...
 

And who told you nyerere was OUR BROTHER!

teh teh teh teh!

We kweli mbulula!
 
Mohamed Said.

Naomba utujuze kiduchu kuhusu historia ya TANU waasisi wake kuna vitu vinanichanganya, historia ya Kivukoni inasema TANU imeundwa na watu 17 tu.

Kuna hawa wazee ambao walikuwa wanaunda baraza la wazee wa TANU chini ya mwenyetiki Sheikh Suleiman Takadir, hawamo kwenye kitabu cha Kivukoni.

Idd Faiz Mafongo, Abasi Mtemvu, Idd Tosir, Ally Mwinyi, na wengine ambao unaweza kututajia ambao walikuwa wanachama wa mwanzo wa TANU wote hao wametoswa na historia ya Kivukoni, wamewekwa kina Japhet Kirilo.

Hebu tupe darsa kwenye hili.
 
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Wickama,
Hii hapa chini ni picha ya Shariff Abdallah Attas.

Shariff Attas alimjua vyema Nyerere.
Nimepokea mengi kuhusu siku za mwanzo za TANU kutoka kwake.

Hizi ni pamoja na anecdotes nyingi sana.
 
Ritz said:
Nanren.

Hivi kucheka teh teh teh! au Kwi kwi kwi...ni matusi.
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Ritz
Hata wewe unajifanya hujaelewa post yangu??!
Anyway, haijalishi. Ninaamini mlengwa, Mohamed Said ameielewa.
 
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