Kenya abandons plan to electrify its SGR citing high costs and irregular power supply

Kafrican said:

Tena reli ya Ethiopiakwengine iko na level crossing ambapo reli inakutana na barabara, unlike kenya ambayo kuna daraja linapita juu ya barbara sehemu zote..... check the number of stoppages in this one journey

Train travel in Ethiopia & Djibouti - train times & fares

stopped twice between Lebu and Adama, including once for 5 minutes because we hit a goat at a road crossing. (the management company then sends some of its local staff to pay compensations)


. We arrived in Adama at 9:15 and stopped for about 40 min for an unknown reason


However the shepherd didn't want to let the train go until he gets compensated (for 70 goats, since some were pregnant and some cubs need their dead mother...). More federal and local police came, about 20 in total. The train left after 7 (!) hours of negotiations which, according the the Chinese boss in the train, included some calls to the Ethiopian minister of transport and the head of the federal police in Addis, at dusk (I suspect the shepherd let it go because they had to go home for diner, otherwise they would have stayed!). The boss told me "they do it on purpose to get money. They ask an unreasonable price. The other day we killed 12 camels and they asked for a million birr".




The train was so late than we stopped in Dire Dawa for the night.




After 1h40 of normal ride the train got stuck for 30min in the desert because there was no electricity.




Then we were running at 110 km/h according to the GPS. We stopped again because of power failure at 13:15 and power came back 1h later. Apparently they once got stuck for 10h..







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Kumbuka unlike diesel reli ya umeme ikikosa supply ya umeme inapoteza pia air condition, na kwa vile reli ni ya mwendokasi, madirisha hua yamefungwa, ikiwa ni usiku mtapoteza hadi mataa mbaki na emergency pekee

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duh,unwatoa povuuu kweli maana hawa ni hamna hamna😀

Bongo umeme utakuwepo wa kutosha, source na grid ya ku-power SGR itakua ring-fenced na haitaingiliana na umeme wa matumizi ya nyumbani na viwandani.

Kawaida umeme unaohitajika kwa electric train unategemeana na aina ya train na tecknology inayotumika.

Huwezi ukakokotoa consumption ya umeme linearly, kuna parameters za ku-consider kama vifaa vya kuhifadhi umeme ktk train zenyewe kama vile capacitors, flywheel an accumulators bila kusahau efficiency yake.

Ukiweka hayo pembeni, ku-estimate matumizi ni kati ya 3 - 4 kWhr/km/100 tonne.

eliakeem said:

Hivyo vitu vya umeme au giza kwenye coaches ni issue ndogo sana. wata solve soon, wait n see.

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Siku ya tatu baada ya kenya kulaunch service ya mizigo kwa SGR yakena ripoti kutoka kua ilikua hakuna mizigo ya kutosha, watanzania mlijaza server za JF mkishobokea vile SGR imekosa mizigo mkiita tembo mweupe , leo hii mnatuambia its okay if you still have power blackouts two years after launch..

Kafrican said:

Tatizo la kenya hata si umeme, tatizo ni unreliable electric grid... Unakuta transfoner ama sub station inaharibika rahisi .... We first need a truly smart grid and we also need a completely new national 21st century grid... An overhaul will set us back about $2B, or else even the nuclear plant would not be viable..
Reli ya Ethiopia imekwama njiani for 7 hours ikingoja stima zirudi, mind you ethiopia has more power than EAC combined

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Mzee baba hapa utaongea sana ni bora utulize mshono tu! Tumekwambia huku kwetu kutakuwa na grid maalum kwa ajili ya umeme wa kiendeshea sgr hii! Hofu yako ni nini kwa mfano!

Ni dhahili ukiona mapungufu ya Ethiopia utagundua kuwa kuna vitu hawakuvitilia maanani ndo maana changamoto ni nyingi! Kwanza suala la train kugonga mifugo na kusimama ili wajadili na wenye mifugo nalo linatia ikakasi!

So tuliza mshono utuache sisi tuendelee

Toyota escudo said:

Mzee baba hapa utaongea sana ni bora utulize mshono tu! Tumekwambia huku kwetu kutakuwa na grid maalum kwa ajili ya umeme wa kiendeshea sgr hii! Hofu yako ni nini kwa mfano!

Ni dhahili ukiona mapungufu ya Ethiopia utagundua kuwa kuna vitu hawakuvitilia maanani ndo maana changamoto ni nyingi! Kwanza suala la train kugonga mifugo na kusimama ili wajadili na wenye mifugo nalo linatia ikakasi!

So tuliza mshono utuache sisi tuendelee

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sasa bongolala are more smart than Ethiopians..😀

Kafrican said:

Siku ya tatu baada ya kenya kulaunch service ya mizigo kwa SGR yakena ripoti kutoka kua ilikua hakuna mizigo ya kutosha, watanzania mlijaza server za JF mkishobokea vile SGR imekosa mizigo mkiita tembo mweupe , leo hii mnatuambia its okay if you still have power blackouts two years after launch..

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walirukaruka humu kama wachawi kisa hamna mizigo ya kutosha,sasa I think its picking up🙄

Cicero said:

Tusign mkataba wa kuwauzia wakenya umeme wa kuendeshea matreni yao basi maana no way hizo 2000MW tutaziconsume wenyewe demand yetu bado ni ndogo mno!

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Nashauri tu-consume wenyewe na wao jirani wameze mate tu. Hata ukiwauzia umeme watusema tu.

MwendaOmo said:

Tatizo lenyu hapa ni inferiority complex. Mawazo ya electrification ya hiyo Railway ilianza kitambo sana. Focus ya Kenya ni movement of goods wala si movement of people. Ninyi fanyeni yenu, wacha sisi tufanye yetu. Ikiwa tutabadilisha, tutabadilisha tu. Nikiweza ku paraphrase alichosema balozi wa US kule Somalia miaka ya 80'. "Tanzanians (on JF) think that they are are the centre of world affairs when they barely exist at its periphery."

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Na kuhusu Kenya waMarekani hao hao wamewahi kusema nini? Unakumbuka? Unatutukania tusi la Mzungu anayetukana watu weusi wote kila mara bila kujali huyu wa nchi hii na huyu wa nchi nyingine. Wao hujumuisha tu kama majuzi. Hatuchekani! Sisi tuongee ya kwetu hapa basi.

Cicero said:

Hahaa you even have to make up quotes. SMH.
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Afadhali umemjibu.

Naton Jr said:

He he he safi sana hatuwezi kufanana East Africa yote lazima wawepo matajiri na masikini he he he

Tanzania will be the only East African nation to have bullet train kama nawaona vile wa Kenya wakija kushangaa bullet train sababu hawatakaa wawe nayo hii ndo kofuli ya milele na Uganda walishasema hawawezi kujenga diesel propelled engines ni lazima wajenge electric trains so hiyo ni automatically Tanzania we will take Ugandas everything from pipeline to SGR, MAGUFULI Hoyeee

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Chezea JPM wewe? Nchi inapaa.

3rd man said:

sasa bongolala are more smart than Ethiopians..😀

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sasa ndoutajua hujui Tanzania ya Magufuli

3rd man said:

sasa bongolala are more smart than Ethiopians..😀

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wewe ndo pambaf kabisa. hujui ya kuwa any challenges that rise in Ethiopian SGR we take it as ours if were not taken care during the planning stage.

Huku kwetu hayo mambo ya Treni kugonga Mbuzi hakuna.

Mbuzi ndio anagonga Treni hivyo ikitokea ajali ya treni na Mbuzi mmiliki wa mbuzi ndio atatoka mbio maana atatakiwa kulipa uharibifu wa treni.

Japo yetu itakuwa na Uzio njia nzima.

MGILEADI said:

Nashauri tu-consume wenyewe na wao jirani wameze mate tu. Hata ukiwauzia umeme watusema tu.

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unajua kenya SGR ya umeme haikuwa ktk mipango yao bali walidandia kuvaa kiatu kisicho size yao sasa wameona wakifue maana kinawabana.

3rd man said:

sasa bongolala are more smart than Ethiopians..😀

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Haijalishi, kikubwa ni kuwa tutaepuka makosa kama yao