Kenya declares war on Al Shabaab!

Kenya declares war on Al Shabaab!

Tatizo kwa jeshi la Kenya ni kwamba hawa Alshabaab hawajali sana juu ya hii incursio kwa sababu wao si serikali ni rebels. Kazi ya kulinda mipaka ya nchi ya Somalia ni ya serikali (TFG). Rebels watakua wanakimbiakimbia tu utawafuata mwenyewe mpaka utachoka. They have nothing to loose, hii ni vita isiyo na mwenyewe ndo maana Wanyamwezi siku hizi wanatumia drones zaidi kupigana na watu aina ya Alshabaab...
 
Jamaa kasema Al -shahab, wameteka askari watatu wa kenya hawajulikani waliko. Mimi nawambia hili ni jeshi la gwaride tu, hamna wanaume hapo, hii kazi wangekuwa wamepewa rwanda, leo hii ungesikia wamechukua Mogadishu tayari. Kwa Tanzania hii ni operation ndogo saana, sisi tumepigana na Makburu Msumbiji, na wanajua nini kazi yetu
Hamna cha Rwanda wala Tanzania.Yeyote aliyeingia Somalia kwa style ya Kenya na Ethiopia atatoka na kilio.Huu ni mwanzo tu kila siku zinavyokwenda hali itachafuka.Ataanza Sharif Ahmed na watafuata wengine.
Umesikia kilio cha Marekani leo huko Kabul?.Sasa ikiwa Marekani imeshindwa huko na Iraq itakuwa hawa?.Kwa bahati nzuri pori la Somalia ni zuri sana kwa vita ya kuvizia kama ilivyo milima ya Afghanistan.Ngoja tuanze kuhesabu maiti za wakenya wanaokufa Somalia.
Kumbuka warundi walivyodunguliwa wiki iliyopita,ilikuwa kama kwamba Alshabaab wamepiga Kanga mwitu.Zaidi ya 73 tumeshuhudia,mbali ya wale waliowahiwa kuzolewa na wenzao.
 
GSU? don't make me laugh:lol: This proves that Kenya's armed forces are relatively small and have thus been called on only in domestic conflicts!!!.

And the naked truth still remains: Kenya's army has never fought a single war before and that its biggest weakness (lack of combat experience) so far you army only rely on training!!!. Your inexpirinced soldiers and will commit so many mistakes which does not necessarily means that you will loose the war!

On the other hand Tanzania's army has fought so many wars to name a few wars against Portuguese in Mozambique and Angola, against South Africans in Namibia, against Idd Amin in Uganda,against Col. Mohammed Bacar in Comoro etc...This means Tanzania's army has generated its own combat doctrine from that long experience and the ongoing training. Now this can confidently be used in any potential future threats like the Shabaabs...

I hate to burst your bubble but according to Kenya's military doctrine, Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda or Burundi are not considered threats at all! They are all friendly nations at best that can not pose a threat to our country in the event of armed conflict and this is said with the utmost respect that is due. Unlike you, we do not make our proclamations based on the ability to screech, scream and shout the loudest but we let the our goals, achievements and pose and actions do the taking.
 
Across the East and Central African region, Kenya remains the most militarily powerful country. This is based on its capabilities including assets and resources at disposal besides human resources Latest acquisitions particularly long range surface to surface missiles SSM and surface to air missiles SAM has bolstered its capability to strike enemies strategic military positions. Another major boost to its capability was the acquisition of a new fleet of F-5 –Tiger strategic fighter jets. These, albeit commonplace perception they are old, are upgraded 1989 Northrop editions, hence superior. They have speed and precisions besides modern radar and an anti-aircraft fire detection and evasion system, in simple words. The new fleet totals 25 and will back up another 18 all in compact condition.
On Yearly basis, Kenya has been building up its infantry. Annually, 6000 troops are trained and the cadet school recruits hundreds of military aviators. As such, annually, an estimated 8,000 join the military. The military intelligence and the defense training college in Karen is a hub for senior military officials where strategy and geopolitics are assessed. Besides, the Kenyan military is disciplined well trained, and engaged in corporate social responsibility.
Military threats facing Kenya hardly suffice to be high level let alone raise a major threat to the country sovereignty. A case scenario is Uganda and Somalia. The Ugandan regime has an expansionist doctrine that has seen them eye specific locales across Lake Victoria. Militarily, Kenya has the capacity to fed off Uganda both using flak and flank.
Defense expenditure plans have been cushioned from publicity besides keeping the clandestine due to the sensitive nature of arms info that can prompt an arms race in the region. There is also the issue of Kenyan security pact with Ethiopia, which shields both from armed conflicts. Southern Sudan military, a rebel outfit without discipline is now being trained and equipped by the Kenya army. Kenya main fear lies within Khartoum, Uganda, and Somalia.

Uganda, based on current threat matrix analysis poses a significant military threat based on two pronged factors. Its recent military upgrades including the acquisition of six sukhoi-20 mk2 fighter aircraft that are rated as top of the range fighters and the discovery of oil in the country is disturbing. It is right for Uganda to up its air defenses and upgrade its military technical capability based on its rising economic fortunes and the arising need to keep such resources safe. On the other hand, geopolitics force Kenyan oil rich north to remain an unexploited oil reserve but rising energy costs and Ugandan oil requires balancing the act.

Migingo and Ugingo Island issues are geopolitical and a big issue all together. Kenyan military strategists and their intelligence counterparts have for a year now sought a way out without considering a military strike on Uganda owing to the fact that the F-5E cannot match sukhoi-20 mk2 fighter which Museveni is desperate to use. Instead, the NSIS proposed top-secret acquisitions of superior fighter aircraft. According to a series of defense, meetings between Kenyan air force officials, and agreed to seek which among US 35- F-15 fighter aircrafts should be delivered to cushion Kenyan against the increasing threat from her neighbors.Besides the F-15, the country has already acquired 50 z-9w attack helicopters from China and another fleet of Harbin gunship attack helicopters. In continuum for the rising levels of threat and powerful enemy flak, the NSIS along Military intelligence have been talking for sellers of F-15, JF-17, and Mi35 gunships to up the Kenya air force and diversify its technical and tactical capability.

Regional Balance Necessitates More Military Spending in Kenya
Kenya ranks 40 in military spending globally. However, the defense expenditure is warranted given the strategic position of Kenya in the region besides its strategic importance to Britain, Israel, and United States. The same scenario now applies to the Chinese. Massive infrastructure upgrades and construction in Kenya have been the responsibility of the Chinese since 2005 when President Kibaki began specific economic reforms in the country. Defense expenditure plans have been cushioned from publicity besides keeping the clandestine due to the sensitive nature of arms info that can prompt an arms race in the region. There is also the issue of Kenyan security pact with Ethiopia, which shields both from armed conflicts. Southern Sudan military, a rebel outfit without discipline is now being trained and equipped by the Kenya army. Kenya main fear lies within Khartoum and Somalia.

Sudan has sought to repress the Juba regime and now that cessation was confirmed, keeping Khartoum away by building an army in the South besides adequately arming it is sensible and a long-term strategy. The theatre of the complex matrix of this threat compounds when type of arms comes to focus. Training pilots is expensive and cumbersome and the Southern Sudanese are not yet ready to fly an F-5E, an Instrument Kenya desperately wants to give them. Khartoum has MIGs, latest editions, besides a long-range facility hat is producing a sizeable amount of surface to air and surface-to-surface missiles. The target would be Juba and Kenya since Kenya is the Juba proxy.

Somali's extremists seek to expand their communal presence across the borders of Somalia, meaning Kenyan and Ethiopia will be annexed. Preparing an army that is well equipped and with sufficient intelligence framework to counter the threat is an urgent need. With a larger army today, and a fleet of armored vehicles/humvees, more land rovers, hundreds of Steyers, hundreds of main battle tanks with better armor, thousands of rockets, hundreds of missiles, a fleet of F-15 Eagles, Chinook attack helicopters, Harbins gunships, MD 500s, besides missile launchers, among many new and modern weaponry, Kenya is balancing the act and tilting the power balance to its favor as usual.
 
kifaa kilicho tangulizwa ni hiyo ak47 au huyo mwanamama?
 
Are you trying to compare your soldiers to the KDF?I really hate comparing the two forces but today iam forced to.Now take a look...KDF has a total of 63000 troops from all the three units.Our military spending for 2011 on defence alone was ksh.49billion while that for the police was ksh.44billion.When it comes to equipments then dont even bother to ask whereas in terms of training you can never compare to us.If you think am trying to brag then you need to do more research on that field.The so-called liberation of comoros is just a job of kenya's paramilitary police (gsu) and for this am sure.Try sending your forces to somalia and you will know what war is.Or are you trying to say that if the TPDF had been deployed in somalia you could never have castualities?so far kenya has only lost one soldier from enemy fire.THINK HARD BRO!THANK YOU!
will you kill al shabab with G3 rifle? a failed NATO rifle! Soon u will experience true colours of battlefield!
 
Are you trying to compare your soldiers to the KDF?I really hate comparing the two forces but today iam forced to.Now take a look...KDF has a total of 63000 troops from all the three units.Our military spending for 2011 on defence alone was ksh.49billion while that for the police was ksh.44billion.When it comes to equipments then dont even bother to ask whereas in terms of training you can never compare to us.If you think am trying to brag then you need to do more research on that field.The so-called liberation of comoros is just a job of kenya's paramilitary police (gsu) and for this am sure.Try sending your forces to somalia and you will know what war is.Or are you trying to say that if the TPDF had been deployed in somalia you could never have castualities?so far kenya has only lost one soldier from enemy fire.THINK HARD BRO!THANK YOU!
will you kill al shabab with G3 rifle? a failed NATO rifle! Soon u will experience true colours of battlefield!
 
Somali militia: Suicide bomber was Somali-American

By ABDI GULED and KATHARINE HOURELD
The Associated Press
Saturday, Oct. 29, 2011Saturday, Oct. 29, 2011By ABDI GULED and KATHARINE HOURELD

MOGADISHU, Somalia -- Al-Qaida-linked Islamist militants in Somalia say one of the suicide bombers who attacked an African Union peacekeepers' base in Mogadishu was Somali-American.

The claim posted on Somalimemo.net, a website frequently used by the al-Shabab militants, could not be immediately verified.

Two suicide bombers and around 10 gunmen sparked a two-hour gunfight when they attacked the base Saturday in the Somali capital. The extent of casualties remained unclear late in the day.


AP Photo - African Union tanks are seen guarding in front of their base in the Somali capital of Mogadishu Saturday, Oct. 29, 2011. At least 10 people died Saturday during an attack by insurgents dressed in Somali military uniforms and subsequent gunfight that lasted for several hours at the African Union base in Mogadishu, a Somali military official said.

The militants' short statement said the bomber was the second Somali American involved in a suicide attack in Mogadishu in five months.
U.S. authorities say around 20 Somali-Americans have traveled to Somalia to fight with the al-Shabab insurgency.

The Modesto Bee

Mtandao wa Somalimemo.net ni mtandao unaotumiwa na magaidi wa Al Shabaab kusambaza propaganda zao. Huko tayari wanasema wamewaua askari waganda 80 wa AMISOM kwenye hili tukio. Kwa hiyo wakenya kaeni mkao wa kula. Mkifanya mchezo mtakiona cha moto!
 
I hate to burst your bubble but according to Kenya's military doctrine, Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda or Burundi are not considered threats at all! They are all friendly nations at best that can not pose a threat to our country in the event of armed conflict and this is said with the utmost respect that is due. Unlike you, we do not make our proclamations based on the ability to screech, scream and shout the loudest but we let the our goals, achievements and pose and actions do the taking.

Friendly nations?? don't be so naive!!

The sole purpose of all these small-world national armies is not to protect your land from the US, Russia or Botswana aggressions but from any potential threat(s) from your immediate neighbor(s)....

Trust no one even your dearest noisy neighbor(s):lol:
 
Maswahiba wa Kenya wanajiuliza maswali lukuki juu ya mikakati ya Kenya:

28th October 2011, London

Are Kenyans seeking a buffer zone in Somalia??????????

As Kenya's troops continue their incursion into southern Somalia in pursuit of Islamist militants, the BBC's Will Ross considers the motives behind the deployment.

"I hope in three or four months, al-Shabab will have been removed from our region. Then one day I'll invite you to come to Kismayo to see what's going on," said Abdullahi Shafi, personal assistant to the governor of Somalia's Lower Juba region.

He is hopeful that with Kenyan military help, he can soon return home to a new semi-autonomous region in southern Somalia.

"We have been in hell for the last 20 years. We need a new Somalia," he said, wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with "Azania" - the name of the new region which comprises Gedo, Lower Juba and Middle Juba.

It already has a flag - blue, white and red - a parliament, a house of elders and a president in waiting.

The Kenyan government says it sent troops to Somalia to fight al-Shabab, whom it blames for the recent kidnappings of tourists and aid workers.

"Kenya has the capacity, the ability and the will to defend its territory and its people," said Moses Wetangula, Kenya's foreign minister.

But analysts point out that for several years Kenya, with international support, has been pushing for Azania, traditionally known as Jubaland, to be set up.

Kenya has trained and equipped Somali troops, as it would like a buffer zone to shield its territory from lawless Somalia.
So some analysts see the kidnappings as just a convenient excuse for carrying out the plan militarily.

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The army has been giving unverifiable reports of success across the border.

The Kenyan media, which have scarcely questioned the motive for going to war, have told the country about captured towns that no one has ever heard of.

One front page article referred to the "imminent fall of Kismayo".

For now, the cautious voices are being drowned out.

"It's not going to be easy for Kenya to stabilise and pacify that part of Somalia, much less drive out al-Shabab," said Rashid Abdi, of the International Crisis Group.

"I think the Kenyans are into a very long and messy intervention in Somalia."


Rich in oil?
The man who hopes to soon end his absentee presidency says the creation of Azania, in April, came about following the consultation of more than 30 clans.

He says he is not a separatist, but speaks of a bright future for his people in a Somalia where power is devolved from Mogadishu.

Continue to read this article on this link & Source : BBC News - Are Kenyans seeking a buffer zone in Somalia?
 
Hivi wewe Ami, Ni mungu wa aina Gani anayeruhusu mauaji?. It must be a satanic Plot not the realy God.
Kwani na uchokozi nao una maana gani?.Halafu hizo tunazosubiri kuhesabu ni maiti za jeshi la Kenya sizungumzii raia.
 
Hivi wewe Ami, Ni mungu wa aina Gani anayeruhusu mauaji?. It must be a satanic Plot not the realy God.
Sikuelewi kabisa unakusudia kumlaumu nani.Wanaokufa kwa kujitoa muhanga kujitetea na wale wanaokufa kwa mabomu ya drones na F16 ni nani wengi zaidi.Ukijiuliza na kupata jawabu utajuwa ni Mungu gani unayekusudia.
 
Kenyan jets bomb southern Somali town, 12 killed

MOGADISHU | Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:57am EDT

MOGADISHU (Reuters) - At least 12 people were killed Sunday when two Kenyan jets bombed the southern Somali town of Jilib, residents and officials said, as the east African nation's fights to rid Somalia of Islamist al Shabaab rebels.

Kenya moved its troops into Somalia in mid-October in pursuit of Somali insurgents it blames for a series of kidnappings on Kenyan soil and frequent assaults on its security forces in the border province of North Eastern.

"Twelve civilians died including six children and 52 others were injured after Kenyan jets bombarded an IDP (internally displaced people) camp in the town," said Mohamud Ali Harbi, a local elder in Jilib, 120 km (74 miles) north of the port of Kismayu.

Emmanuel Chirchir, the Kenyan military spokesman, could not immediately confirm the raid when contacted by Reuters, saying they were waiting for an operational update from the ground.

"The jets bombarded two places, an al Shabaab base and a nearby IDP camp," Hassan Abdiwahab, a resident in Jilib, told Reuters.
(Reporting by Sahra Abdi and Omar Faruq; Writing by Duncan Miriri; Editing by Louise [URL="https://www.jamiiforums.com/places/ireland"]Ireland[/URL])
 
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