Kenya declares war on Al Shabaab!

Kenya says Al-Shabab getting more arms; Eritrean denial

“We can positively confirm that another aircraft with weapons has landed in Somalia,” he said.

Kule Libya, wafaransa walidondosha kwa ndege silaha, pia US kupitia Qatar walifanya hivyo...nafikiri vita inawanufaisha hawa nchi zilizofilisika kiuchumi na kwa hiyo kueneza mapigano na vita ni njia nzuri kwao kufanya biashara ya silaha na miundo mbinu itakayoharibiwa itataka mikopo ya IMF na makandarasi ambao ni wao.

Hapa inawezekana kuwa kama ni kweli kuwa silaha za al shabaab zinatoka Eritrea ni kuwa web ya uhuni wa West ni kueneza vita hiyo kwa kasi ili kuimaliza AU baada ya kuihasi katika issue ya Libya.

Hii ni vita ya AFRICOM. Djibout pia inapeleka majeshi Somalia?

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Al-Shabaab wajitayarisha kwa mapambano Kismayu
Somali rebels ready Kismayu to repel Kenyan strikes


03 Nov 2011 12:05
Source: reuters // Reuters
A member of al Shabaab controls residents as they participate in a demonstration against Kenyans' incursion inside Somalia in Elasha, outside Mogadishu, October 27, 2011. REUTERS/Ismail Taxta

MOGADISHU, Nov 3 (Reuters) - Rebels linked to al Qaeda mounted weapons on rooftops, dug trenches and armed students to defend the southern Somali port of Kismayu from an expected onslaught by Kenya's military. Kenya's army has warned Somalis to stay away from al Shabaab bases in 10 southern towns due to "imminent strikes", but nearly three weeks into their cross-border operation, Kenyan and Somali government troops are bogged down by heavy rains and thick mud.

Kenya issued the warning after it received intelligence reports that consignments of weapons had reached al Shabaab militants in the rebel-controlled town of Baidoa.

"They have put their weapons over us. Every high house in the city is a defence for al Shabaab," said Fatuma Ali, a resident in Kismayu who lives next to the rebels' military base.

"Since Kenya mentioned the 10 towns, al Shabaab have been readying all their weapons and small arms," she said.

Spurred on by a wave of kidnappings and attacks on its soil, Kenya is the latest country to be drawn into the conflict in Somalia, which has had no effective government for two decades.

Other residents in Kismayu, al Shabaab's nerve centre, the militants were digging trenches in the city and handing out weapons to some students to confront the Kenyans.

"They gave arms to people and they're telling them to stay and defend the country from foreigners," said resident Amina Mahmoud in Kismayu. "They said yesterday evening: 'Everyone of you who dies here is a mujahid and will enter paradise'."

There were no reports on Thursday of any air raids since Kenya sent out its warning two days ago. But fearful of a confrontation, Somalis were trying to flee towns, only to be stopped by militants who want them to stay and fight.

"They've refused to let us out, and we don't have any money to leave. Some people are trying to flee but the heavy rain is not giving them a chance," said Ali.

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Military: Kenya will shoot down aircraft carrying weapons to Somali militants

November 03, 2011 - 11:50

The Associated Press

NAIROBI, Kenya - A military spokesman says Kenya will destroy aircraft it suspects of transporting weapons to al-Qaida-linked militants in Somalia.
Maj. Emmanuel Chirchir said Thursday that unexplained flights would be challenged by radio, and asked to detail their flight path and cargo.

He said if the Kenyan military was not satisfied with the explanation and the plane landed in areas held by the al-Shabab militia, the plane risked being destroyed.
Chirchir says that the Kenyan military has informants who say three flights carrying weapons for al-Shabab have landed in Baidoa, Somalia in the past week.
He also says that the Kenyan Navy sunk a boat with 18 al-Shabab fighters onboard south of the Somali port city of Kismayo late Wednesday.
 
Somali rebels say will subject Kenya to ‘endless war'

On November 3, 2011 · In News

NAIROBI (AFP) – Somalia's Shebab rebels said Thursday they were building defences that would plunge Kenyan forces battling them into an "endless war."

Kenyan soldiers and tanks pushed into Shebab-controlled southern Somalia last month to fight the insurgents and curtail their ability to launch cross-border attacks.

"The Shebab mujahideen will defend Somalia, and will put Kenya into an endless war," the Al-Qaeda-linked rebels said in statement.

"We will defeat you like the other major countries that have suffered when they attacked Somalia, you will see the consequences."

Since Somalia spiralled into civil war in 1991, several foreign armies - including US forces, UN peacekeepers and a 2006 Ethiopian invasion - have failed to create stability in the anarchic nation.

Kenya's army claims that Shebab fighters have received three air deliveries of arms and ammunition this week, and have warned residents in 10 southern Somali towns to leave Shebab-held areas ahead of an imminent attack.

"We will soon deliver on disrupting that flow of arms, and we will ensure they are not effective," said Kenyan army spokesman, Major Emmanuel Chirchir, in a message posted on Twitter Thursday.

The militants however dismissed the reported air deliveries as an excuse by Kenya to legitimise civilian deaths ahead of the expected assault.

"This is cheap propaganda to legalise the indiscriminate killing of Somalis," the Shebab statement added, posted in Somali on an Islamist website.

Kenya has said it will probe reports of civilian deaths when its warplanes struck the rebel-held town of Jilib at the weekend, where aid agency Doctors Without Borders said five civilians were killed.

Rebels however said they feared that there could be more civilian deaths when Kenya ramps up its military attacks on its positions.

"This is a plan to carry out collective punishment against the Muslim people of Somalia… the killing of civilians at Jilib by Kenya is clear testimony of this," the Shebab statement added.

Vanguard (Nigeria)
 
The Al Shabaab are feeling the heat and are now crying foul claiming the Kenyan Military will kill innocent civilians once the pounding begins. Never-mind the Al Shabaab have been beheading Somalis for 2 years now also I thought the 7 virgins are a significant enough incentive for martyrdom. Hear them whining yet they asked for war!

Somali rebels say will subject Kenya to ‘endless war'


On November 3, 2011 · In News

NAIROBI (AFP) – Somalia's Shebab rebels said Thursday they were building defences that would plunge Kenyan forces battling them into an "endless war."

Kenyan soldiers and tanks pushed into Shebab-controlled southern Somalia last month to fight the insurgents and curtail their ability to launch cross-border attacks.

"The Shebab mujahideen will defend Somalia, and will put Kenya into an endless war," the Al-Qaeda-linked rebels said in statement.

"We will defeat you like the other major countries that have suffered when they attacked Somalia, you will see the consequences."

Since Somalia spiralled into civil war in 1991, several foreign armies - including US forces, UN peacekeepers and a 2006 Ethiopian invasion - have failed to create stability in the anarchic nation.

Kenya's army claims that Shebab fighters have received three air deliveries of arms and ammunition this week, and have warned residents in 10 southern Somali towns to leave Shebab-held areas ahead of an imminent attack.

"We will soon deliver on disrupting that flow of arms, and we will ensure they are not effective," said Kenyan army spokesman, Major Emmanuel Chirchir, in a message posted on Twitter Thursday.


The militants however dismissed the reported air deliveries as an excuse by Kenya to legitimise civilian deaths ahead of the expected assault.

"This is cheap propaganda to legalise the indiscriminate killing of Somalis," the Shebab statement added, posted in Somali on an Islamist website.

Kenya has said it will probe reports of civilian deaths when its warplanes struck the rebel-held town of Jilib at the weekend, where aid agency Doctors Without Borders said five civilians were killed.

Rebels however said they feared that there could be more civilian deaths when Kenya ramps up its military attacks on its positions.

"This is a plan to carry out collective punishment against the Muslim people of Somalia… the killing of civilians at Jilib by Kenya is clear testimony of this," the Shebab statement added.


 
Kenya's blundering mission in Somalia:

Article written by Dr. Tendai Marima Ph.D (War Strategist)

Kenya's surprisingly brave march into southern Somalia, which began in mid-October, brings to mind the analogy of Kenya as a clumsy, overgrown, weak-muscled 17-year-old stumbling onto a rainy, muddy battlefield for the very first time. Weighed down by his kalashnikov and ego, he fiddles about to get his aim right, but his younger, more agile, bloodthirsty opponent is already waiting with his weapon cocked and ready to fire.

Until now, independent Kenya had never been to war or led a military intervention into another state. After 20 years of deftly avoiding resurrecting old neighbourly grudges and becoming directly involved in Somalia's war, the Kenyan government finally decided to take the plunge.

On October 16, an estimated 3,000 Kenyan troops marched into Somalia to battle with the 'terrorist' and tourist menace that is al-Shabaab. On a mission to protect the nation's "territorial intergrity", Kenyan forces are attempting to secure the northern border with Somalia, an unstable region where the killing and abduction of Western tourists, aid workers, and Kenyans has made the news. Allegedly the work of al-Shabaab, the escalation in murder of Westerners has been an important catalyst, but not the sole reason for this armed intervention.

Buffers or proxies?

From providing intelligence support to recruiting and training Somali soldiers - even paying warlords to create a buffer zone between itself and its warring neighbour - Kenya has long sought to protect itself from Somalia's mortars and missiles. So, too, has Ethiopia.

Since 1996, Ethiopia has tried to create a large safety belt to contain Somalia's fighting and to block neighbouring Eritrea from gaining more ground in its border war with Ethiopia. Using Somalia's crisis to wage its own proxy wars, Eritrea allegedly funds and arms anti-Ethiopian Somali Sufi factions while Ethiopia reportedly arms pro-Somali government militias. Currently, Ethiopian troops occasionally move in and out of southern Somalia's Gedo region, a buffer zone. The troops are trying to contain the fighting between Ethiopian rebel separatist movements and Sufi Somali factions against Somalia's interim government and Ethiopia.

Ethiopia's attempt at securing a safe space has largely resulted in propping up proxy militias, while Kenya's dream of constructing a similar region has been focused on recruiting and dispatching Somali troops to man the border region. More concretely, support has been given to Somalia's latest independent breakaway, Azania (also known as Jubaland).

The Juba Valley is home to 1.3 million people whose clans have clashed with each other, the Somali army and al-Shabaab insurgents. Jubaland is also the operational base of a separatist rebel movement, the Ogaden National Liberation Front, whose calls for the secession of the Ogaden region in Ethiopia have led to violent confrontations with the Ethiopian army. A 2010 WikiLeaks cable describes the Ethiopian government as "not enthusiastic about Kenya's Jubaland initiative, but is sharing intelligence with Kenya and hoping for success".
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Abdi Gandhi, a professor and former defence minister who is currently the president of Azania, promised Kenya to "liberate Jubaland of extremists", but has not quite made it to his office yet. According to Reuters news agency, Gandhi spends most of his time in Nairobi, Kenya's capital. Most of the progress made on Jubaland's terrorist frontiers in recent months has been due to the efforts of the Somali and Kenyan national armies.

A hotbed of inter-clan tension, violent separatism and anti-foreign sentiment, Kenya's intervention into Jubaland seriously risks stoking the fires of ethnic Somali nationalism. Very real sentiments of pan-Somali solidarity exist among ethnic Somalis in Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Kenya's North Eastern Province. A call to arms could unite Islamist insurgents with nationalist clans to push out foreign forces.

Already opposed to Azania's partial autonomy, Somalia's President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed openly disapproved of Kenyan boots on the ground. Al-Shabaab leaders have called for bombings: "The Kenyan Mujahideen who were trained by Osama in Afghanistan, stop throwing grenades at buses. We need a huge blow against Kenya. Hand grenades hurled can harm them, but we want huge blasts," urged Sheikh Abdiasis Abu Musab, an Islamist rebel group spokesman to crowds gathered in Elasha, near Mogadishu.

History repeats itself

Commenting on Kenya's intervention, last week, former US ambassador to Ethiopia David Shinn said the best scenario would be for Kibaki's forces to secure the towns and "try to replace al-Shabaab with Somali forces friendly to Kenya". It's a valid expectation given that Mogadishu finally fell to Transitional Federal Government (TFG) forces this past August. But, in classic al-Shabaab style, Mogadishu experienced a delayed, heavy retaliation in recent weeks, which cost Burundi's peacekeeping force over 60 lives.

History also shows that far superior armies have failed against al-Shabaab. In early November 1993, American and UN peacekeepers were humiliatingly defeated in a two-day bloody battle against Somali militiamen. Years later, Ethiopia tried too, and licked the same bitter wounds of defeat.

In 2006, a US-backed Ethiopian army marched into the Somali capital, triumphed over the original al-Shabaab, and handed Mogadishu over to the TFG. But local clansmen and clerics irked by Ethiopia's invasion joined forces with the militant wing of the overthrown Islamic Courts Union, a collective of Sharia courts which formed a "rebel government" that, until Ethiopia troops' arrival, had presided over southern Somalia, including Mogadishu. Driven by a mix of nationalist-jihadist sentiment, the new al-Shabaab marched into the capital and took back the city from one of Africa's biggest and best-trained armies.

Militarily, Kenya is far weaker than Ethiopia. President Mwai Kibaki's government does not have the budget for a lengthy fight as Zenawi did. After days of keeping up the official line: "The United States is not participating in Kenya's current operation in Somalia," the US alongside France are finally partners in Operation Linda Nchi (Operation Protect the Nation), as it's officially known. The assistance is a welcome boost for the Kenyans, but whether air strikes and logistical support will be enough to defeat fervent anti-Western nationalists and extremists is another matter entirely.

An eye for an eye
As the most consistently stable nation in the region, Kenya hosts the headquarters of many NGOs in East Africa and boasts a $750m tourism industry, which has been badly affected by al-Shabaab's abductions and murders of Western holidaymakers.
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According to a UN Monitoring Group Report, rebel-controlled Kismayo and Afmadow are key points for a $100m business made in cash from an array of political and religious extortionist taxes. These include port and airport fees for ships and planes docking at the coastal cities, as well as "jihad contributions" from nationalists and international jihadists.
The money, which goes towards paying al-Shabaab's young fighters, is also said to be generated through an extensive sugar and charcoal smuggling network, which transports the goods in bulk throughout the region.

Cutting off the terrorists' livelihood to preserve one's own may seem a smart move, but al-Shabaab will not let its main port bases, Kismayo and Afmadow, fall to Kenya without fierce resistance. Sheikh Muktar Roobow Abu Mansor, an al-Shabaab leader, told hundreds of supporters to fight tit for tat. "I am telling the mujahideen that Kenya is your port; go to their banks, guests, and go to all the places they keep their treasury. Take from them in return." And take they will.

Creating a buffer against al-Shabaab is a scary prospect for a country that's never been to war. If Ethiopia's record is any sign of what's to come, then Operation Linda Nchi will be a difficult win. It's been a hard sell to Kenya's independent media, whose pages carry opinion editorials weighing up the costs and risks of intervention with each breaking news headline.

However, Somalis living in the small towns of Dhobley and Qoqani, which the Kenyans have taken over, are broadly supportive of military action. It's understandable, as these people have lived through years of al-Shabaab's terror, but only up to a point. When 750,000 people are in dire need of humanitarian aid, there is no easy moral justification for what Kenya and its supporting cast of bombers, France and the US, are doing. Achieving stability in Jubaland is a noble goal, but this armed intervention risks displacing and starving even more people.

At the beginning of this week, Kenyan jets killed five non-combatants and injured 45 at a refugee camp near Jilib. According to international law, bombing camps for internally-displaced persons contravenes the rules of modern military engagement. The Americans and French are yet to kill, but when they do, more rules could be broken. The civilian body count will rise.

And when Kenyans start coming home in coffins by the dozen, the gravity of war will begin to sink into the hearts of rabid pro-intervention nationalists. Maybe then Kenyan President Mwai Kibaki might think back to the moment he 'hesitated before giving the green light' and do the unthinkable: consider negotiating with the terrorists.

Tendai Marima (PhD) is an independent researcher and correspondent currently based in Southern Africa. Follow her on Twitter.
The views expressed in this article are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect Al Jazeera's editorial policy.

Source: Kenya's blundering mission in Somalia - Opinion - Al Jazeera English
 
al shabab wana pigana vita vya maneno kuwatisha kenya wameisha ona biashara yao ndio hivyo inaishia, kama kweli wao watu wazuri kwanini wasiwarudishe wale mateka? maana maeneo hayo yanashikiliwa nao au serikali ya somalia.
yaani wanataka kuwafanya wakenya kama wana wake, utawezaje kuchukua wageni wa nchi jirani kwenye ardhi yao kama sio tusi au kuwadharau?
 
Kenya's blundering mission in Somalia:

Article written by Dr. Tendai Marima Ph.D (War Strategist)
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Hii makala imewatibua sana wakenya. Kwa namna flani nakubaliana nao kwa sababu Dr. Tendai hakuwatendea haki!
 
ashabaab watapotezwa muda si mrefu
mujahedeens wana propaganda za maneno sana
 
Msiuze punda kwa Al-Shabaab, jeshi la Kenya laonya
[h=2]Don't sell donkeys to Al Shaabab![/h]Kenya's military spokesperson is using Twitter to warn people not to help al-Qaeda-linked militants by selling them an old-world transportation tool: donkeys. Spokesperson Emmanuel Chirchir is tweeting updates on Kenya's military push into Somalia to fight the al-Shabaab militants.

On Thursday, he warned unidentified planes to stay out of the region for fear they are transporting weapons to al-Shabaab. Chirchir said in an interview that Kenya would shoot down any planes that officials suspect are full of weapons. But his commentary also carries the kind of military warnings not usually issued by the Pentagon or Nato: Southern Somalia is getting heavy rains that vehicles can't move through. Accordingly the price of animal transport has shot up.

"Kenyans dealing in donkey trade along the Kenya-Somali border are advised not to sell their animals to al-Shabaab," Chirchir tweeted, adding: "Selling Donkeys to al-Shabaab will undermine our efforts in Somalia".

"In addition we are also reliably informed that the cost of donkeys has risen from $150 to $200 for a donkey. Thus, any large concentration and movement of loaded donkeys will be considered as al-Shabaab activity," Chirchir said.




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Kenya 'sinks' boat with 18 Shabaab members
2011-11-04 12:07

Johannesburg - Kenya's military released a video clip on Friday showing the apparent sinking of an al-Shabaab boat in the Indian Ocean with 18 fighters on board.

The military said naval vessels attacked the boat on Thursday, and the clip, released on YouTube, shows a small ship on fire with a cloud of black smoke rising above it.

News 24

 
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Hii makala imewatibua sana wakenya. Kwa namna flani nakubaliana nao kwa sababu Dr. Tendai hakuwatendea haki!

Mbona hata humu jamvini wapo wengine wakorofi ambao hawataki kuambiwa ukweli, sio siri kwamba hii ndio mara yao ya kwanza kuingia vitani. Tatizo kubwa ni aina ya adui wanaepambana naye, ingekuwa ni nchi kwa nchi labda vita ingekuwa rahisi kwao lakini hao wadudu ni hatari sana kwa maana wako very mobile, agile, ruthless, and aggressive...
 

Undoubtedly a deluded fellow! Come clean and say what your real issue is because it's is obvious Kenyans really irk your nerves.

In all honesty what of value do you, a keyboard militant have to offer? We are all ears! Let your gums flap or forever shut that orifice.

We are waiting to hear what tactical or strategic advice any of you who keep repeating the 'Kenya has never been to war' mantra has to offer (in English.

We are extremely well equipped, our men and women in the forces train with the main military powerhouses of the world and have served all over the world under the auspices of UN.

To top it all, they have swept through Somalia and the enemy is on the run. The naysayers on this forum that predicted our forces would be slaughtered in Somalia within a week have now adjusted their 'clocks of doom' to "in time you will see" or have now shifted to posting blogs and OpEd articles by Al shabaab sympathizers and propaganda unit.

Please post the words of advice that you got from those wars your countries fought 33 years ago, before you were born! Otherwise keep your xenophobic, back handed
quips to yourselves, on second thought keep yapping as our heroes & heroines ressolve the Somali issue once and for all.
 
Kenya tweets of new threat in war against militants: donkeys




Robyn Dixon
Thu Nov 3 2011 11:47 AM


REPORTING FROM NAIROBI, KENYA -- Pity the donkeys of northern Kenya: The country's military announced Thursday that those sold to the wrong people would be bombed.

The Twitter feed of Kenyan military spokesman, Maj. Emmanuel Chirchir, who is rapidly becoming the public face of Kenya's incursion into Somalia, warned that his forces had identified a new threat in the war against Al Shabab militants: loaded donkeys.

In conventional wars (if they even exist any more), intelligence is concerned with mass movements of tanks and troops, but Kenya is watching out for mass movements of donkeys, which would be considered an enemy activity.

The reason, Chirchir explained in a flurry of messages late Thursday, was that "information reaching us confirms that Al Shabab has resorted to using donkeys to transport their weapons."

Another tweet said: "Currently Somalia is receiving heavy rainfall, making the roads impassable."

Another: "Any large concentration of loaded donkeys will be considered as Al Shabab activity"

He tweeted that selling donkeys to Al Shabab on the Somali-Kenyan border would undermine Kenya's battle against the insurgents, known as Operation Linda Nchi, or "protect the nation."

"In addition we are also reliably informed that the cost of donkeys has risen from $150 to $200 for a donkey," he added, advising Kenyans not to sell the animals to Al Shabab.

The major, who has rapidly built a following of more than 2,700 for his tweets, regularly posts news items and messages on the morale of Kenyan forces.

Several days ago, Chirchir warned people in 10 southern Somali towns that Kenyan planes were about to launch continuous bomb attacks and called on them to stay away from Al Shabab bases.

Thursday evening, he posted a YouTube video clip on his Twitter feed purporting to be of Kenya's navy blowing up a vessel and killing 18 Somali militants.

He has also warned on Twitter of planeloads of arms arriving in southern Somalia and declared that Kenya would track down and destroy them.

Kenya invaded Somalia last month to crush Al Shabab militants fighting Somalia's U.N.-backed transitional government, an operation triggered by alleged kidnappings of foreigners in Kenya by the Islamic movement.

Source: LA Times LA Times - Kenya tweets of new threat in war against militants: donkeys

MY OPINION: KENYA DEFENCE FORCES WAMEANZA KUCHANGANYIKIWA NA VITA YA KWANZA
 

Another black monkey who thinks English is knowledge...Talking of peacekeeping missions,even Burundi is serving in Somali,what you ought to know is that peacekeeping is not going to a war,it's all about keeping opposing forces from fighting which rarely involves heavy fighting or sophisticated weapons.Kenya's experience is mainly limited to Bosnia and Sierra Leone where both cases never involved heavy weapons.
My advice,please just reason out as The Godfather puts it.No need to be too emotional hence sounding so immature and stupid.Don't over-argue your case,it rarely helps.Before you resort to abusing people better learn to present your facts,otherwise we might never notice the difference.
 
Kenya 'sinks' boat with 18 Shabaab members
2011-11-04 12:07

Johannesburg - Kenya's military released a video clip on Friday showing the apparent sinking of an al-Shabaab boat in the Indian Ocean with 18 fighters on board.

The military said naval vessels attacked the boat on Thursday, and the clip, released on YouTube, shows a small ship on fire with a cloud of black smoke rising above it.

News 24

 
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Undoubtedly a deluded fellow! Come clean and say what your real issue is .
Arrogant kids like you are the real problem here do you always has to sound so desperate like this to get our sympathies:lol:...If you really can't stand diverse discussion on posted articles about your first war since independence, then why don't you stick to Kenyans forums or start your own forum where you can only have a one sided discussion?

Its an open secret that you know Tanzanians are peace loving people thats why you can't resist to bring yourself here...
 

Correction, I am an ape, not a monkey!
 

You are a relic of your 'Ujamaa' past yet to come to terms with the fact that this electronic infrastructure we use to trade insults is open to all and is not subject to the choking controls of an individual. The world wide web is not just a fete of alliteration but a world wide invitation that seeks logic to put out the flames of ignorance and short sightedness stoked by under performing minds such as that you own.

There are thousands of Kenyan Soldiers in Somalia engaging enemies that will not think twice before blowing themselves up in the vicinity of our mothers and sisters yet you have the chutzpah to question their commitment and ability to face the enemy that they have repelled and is on the run.

So I ask you again, what is it of value that you have to offer from the experience of the war fought 33 years ago?

We are awaiting your response with bated breath. You have proven to be a keyboard militant with nothing to offer and my prediction is your response will be nothing of value and a waste of electricity. You have a bone to pick with Kenya and it is obvious from the statements you have made all across the forum on any topic regarding Kenya.

Bantugbro, 99.99% of Kenyans do not even know you exist and you are drowned out by the majority of Tanzanians that we have a flourishing relationship with. The steaming flow of gibberish spewing from your mind proves you are afraid and find it necessary to compete or undermine everything we do. We have nothing against you, we are not here to take anything from you, we are not after you and there exists no competition between us. We share a border and have much in common but we are two different worlds and are your friends but we will stand up for our own.
 
Nyie wakenya kumbukeni hasira hasara. Sasa mnapandisha mihasira watu wakiwaambia ukweli, manaake ndio nini?

Angalia hasira zenu mnazigeuzia kwa punda badala ya kupambana na magaidi wa Al-Shabaab. Yaani punda amekua adui, sio? Ndo maana watu wanasema jeshi lenu halina mazoea ya vita. Na bado, mtakiona cha moto mwaka huu. Mmeyavulia maji nguo na lazima muyaoge. Mmekalia kuporomosha mijitusi mizito tu, ooovyoooo!!!!
 
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