Kenya declares war on Al Shabaab!

[Askari Kanzu]

Yet you wrote all this in English. Let me remind you we outperform you in every field. I outperform u in every field including Kiswahili.

In French, Arabic, Kiswahili I will still put you in your place with your inferiority complex.

Tusiandikie mate wakati wino upo. Hebu tuanze haya malumbano kwa Kiswahili (lugha mama) kati ya mimi na wewe halafu tuone ukweli umejificha wapi. Usitake kuleta mambo ya kitoto wakati unajua fika kwamba huna uwezo. Unaanza kutetemeka sio?

 

[Bongolander]

Lol, see as I said it is inferiority complex, now the truth
Is out. Lol!!! English? Are you serious??? You blame everyone for everything your country goes through.

What does speaking English have to do with anything?

Are English speaking Kenyans responsible for your inability to power your homes and your 8 hour black outs?

Are English speaking Kenyans responsible for your primitive culture of hunting down albinos for body parts.

Are English speaking Kenyans responsible for the corruption that plagues your country?

Are English speaking Kenyans responsible for the fact that your education system is the worst in the region rendering you the least competitive in the region?

Are they responsible for the fact that your are least productive in the region?

Is it our fault that you have an under developed political system where one party has ruled you since independence and you have an electorate bound by extreme poverty and pawns for the most corrupt and incompetent policy makers in the region?

Are we responsible for the fact that you have the worst infrastructure in the region?

Are we responsible for the extreme levels of poverty that your citizens languish in?

Are we responsible for the fact that your companies are not diversified and not able to expand beyond your country?

Look inwardly, you will find the reason that even Rwanda a country that has been at war for decades has a more promising economy than yours is because personal responsibility is a foreign concept to you and you have a large gulible and uneducated population whose only complain instead of trying to make their lives better?

HAHAHA!

We out perform you even in the Kiswahili you claim to be masters of.

Just go around Kenya and ask them how do we say English language in Kiswahili....you will see how inferior you are. Kizungu....kizungu my ..ss. You eve forget even kifaransa, kidachi, ki-deustche can aslo be kizungu.

 

[MTAZAMO]

Askari Kanzu na wakenya bana!

 

[Askari Kanzu]

Kenya's headache: Al Shabaab goes, then what?
William Oeri | NATION Kenyan troops heading to Amuma border entry point to flush out al Shabaab militants. The army captured a pirates haven of Ras Kamboni in southern Somalia on October 20, 2011 and were advancing towards the al Shabaab stronghold of Kismayu.
By FRED OLUOCH

As Kenya intensified its military campaign in Somalia last week, Eritrea was fighting off accusations of supporting the Islamist Al Shabaab militia.
　
Eritrea was said to have supplied three plane loads of arms to the group in Baidoa, a charge it strenuously denied. An August UN Monitoring Group report on Somalia had accused Eritrea of sponsoring terrorism in the region. It catalogued Isaias Afewerki's growing notoriety in the world of terrorism finance, and in particular the global web through which these funds are routed, with Kenya serving as a global transaction distribution hub.

Eritrea's alleged support to the Al-Shabaab is likely to force Kenya to redesign its strategy in Somalia, with the likely effect being that the campaign could take longer than earlier expected.

The focus is now shifting to how East Africa will manage the transition in the event of victory, and on whether Kenya has an exit strategy that will ensure that the population does not live in constant fear of terrorist attacks by the Al Shabaab.

Rashid Abdi, a Somalia specialist with the International Crisis Group, argued that it is not going to be an easy process because nobody knows what victory will look like. He argues that while it is easy for Kenya to defeat the Al Shabaab militarily, the problem is what will happen later.

"The Al-Shabaab has the capacity to regroup and focus exclusively on terrorism and nothing else," said Mr Abdi.

Other security experts said while Kenya may be looking for a quick victory, there is a possibility that it could become bogged down in a long occupation that the economy cannot sustain.

"The taxpayers are financing the war, but when the bill gets too high and the body bags start coming back, the government could face massive opposition to the whole campaign and even the current jingoistic media will change their tune," said Mr Abdi, adding, "Are we really serving our security and well-being? What Kenya needs is to strengthen domestic security intelligence infrastructure, improve intelligence gathering, eradicate corruption in the police force and start dismantling Al Shabaab cells in Kenya."

As things stand, the Kenyan military forces are trained in conventional warfare and not in counter-insurgency.

Even Ethiopia, with more experience in counter-insurgency, found it hard to deal with this problem when it invaded Somalia from 2006 to 2009.

Full story (The East African)

 

[Askari Kanzu]

Askari Kanzu na wakenya bana!

MTAZAMO, hawa jamaa nimeamua kula nao sahani moja manaake wanajifanya wajanja sana bila kujua kwamba "ndege mjanja hunaswa na tundu bovu"!

 

[Webabu]

Someone told you "udini utakumaliza" go prepare for your holy war and learn about how rain is formed.

I don't mean to be short but did you read what you posted? You do not make sense at all, I wasn't able to follow what you were saying past the rain & (death to America) stuff. Find a translator or something. I don't mean to be offensive but you clearly are incapable of expressing yourself in English.

My English is of Somali accent.The same problem applies to me of your Kikuyu English.In fact I did not get your point when you said: "I wasn't able to follow what you were saying past the rain & (death to America) stuff. Find a translator or something."
After all our main discussion point is the ongoing war you started in Somalia and not the colonial thoughts of which you Kenyans are always better off.Why have you not been able to catch Kismayu in the short period you predicted ?.

 

[Ulinziguy]

Kuna tofauti kati ya vitendawili na methali. Vitendawili=riddles. Methali=proverbs. Hapa unachanganya vitu halafu unajifanya unajuwa. Nenda kajifunze tena lugha yako ya taifa na uache kujifanya ati wewe iko kama ile muzungu!

CORRECTION:Its supposed to be,''wewe uko kama yule mzungu''please tumia lugha ya kiswahili kwa ufasaha.

 

[Kibona]

Hapo YOU'VE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD....My dear Tanzanian brothers and sisters,you've been arguing for the last two weeks on this matter while non of you has even raised an issue on the power rationing and the poor state of TANESCO.Reality is Kenya is still a poor country but Tanzania is even much more poor.As you still argue, a majority of your citizen have serious literacy issues hence your lack of co-operation in the EAC.Truth be told,most well educated Tanzanians studied abroad...and i reckon most of the Tanzanian contributors in this particular forum studied in private schools here in Kenya(Is this the Thanks we get?)

Nilikuwa sijisikii kuchangia ktk mada hii lakini katika hili unajidanganya sana. Hakuna mwanafunzi mwenye uwezo mzuri kiakili anayeweza kwenda kenya au uganda, wanaoenda kenya ni waliofeli na kushindwa kupata nafasi ktk vyuo vya kitanzania. Tuliowengi humu tumesoma hapahapa Tz.

 

[Mekatilili]

My English is of Somali accent.The same problem applies to me of your Kikuyu English.In fact I did not get your point when you said: "I wasn't able to follow what you were saying past the rain & (death to America) stuff. Find a translator or something."
After all our main discussion point is the ongoing war you started in Somalia and not the colonial thoughts of which you Kenyans are always better off.Why have you not been able to catch Kismayu in the short period you predicted ?.

Oh come on, so you are the chest thumping type which country are you a refugee in? The fact is Al shabaab is on its way out and if you feel obliged go back to Somalia and fight alongside them....

You will stay put in the country that has given you the prized refugee status and speak of the holy war in the comfort of your subsidised housing, EVOLVE your pest!

 

[Biera]

THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE KNOWN FOR ALL ACROSS THE WORLD

Seven new albino killings in Tanzania and Burundi


Under the Same Sun, a Vancouver-based NGO, put the toll of albino murders at 57 in Tanzania.

The group reported the killing on May 2 of a 28 year-old albino woman and her four year-old son in Cendajuru, on Burundi's border with Tanzania.

The two had their limbs and organs hacked off by a gang of nine armed men, and the boy's non-albino grandfather who intervened to stop them was killed on the spot, the group said, citing Burundi's police chief Deogratias Ntahompagaze.

Under the Same Sun noted another murder and four attempted murders of albinos in Tanzania between February and April.

"This brings the total in Tanzania to 57 murders and six attempted murders, where victims lost limbs. In Burundi the total is 14 murders. These are only the documented cases. The numbers are likely much higher - estimates suggesting well over a hundred in the last two years," the NGO said.

"Sadly justice has been far too slow in coming. Of the 63 reported cases in Tanzania, a mere two have been brought to conviction in the last two years. In sharp contrast, 12 of Burundi's 14 cases have led to convictions," the group said.
The wave of albino killings started in 2007, fuelled by the sale of their highly-prized body parts to witch doctors across the region who use them to concoct wealth-enhancing charms.
The Tanzanian police estimates at £50,000 "the value to witch doctors of a complete set of albino body parts, including all four limbs, genitals, ears, nose and tongue."
Albinism is a congenital lack of the melanin pigment in the skin, eyes and hair which protects from the sun's ultraviolets. Albinos are vulnerable to medical complications as well as social discrimination in Africa.
Of about 150,000 albinos in Tanzania, a country of some 35 million, some 8,000 are registered with the Tanzania Albino Society. Some families kill albino babies at birth to avoid discrimination, authorities say.

its so fun..all of us we knw the way kenya suffered frm Tribalism and even the proportion of pple working in state house is determined by tribes...aha aha aha!

 

[livefire]

am a new member to this blog, havent read the rules of association and am not interested to. Fact is 'majority of you dont follow em anyway'. This talk of kenyan soldiers being whooped in crazy town z absolute gibberish. Unless u have militarily tested them, 'the army', please reserve ua shallow opinionated thoughts to your baraza. To something different, this thread has no meaning as of now. Alot of tz vs kenya litter the pages of this thread. Really sickening reading thirty plus pages revolving on the two countries.

 

[Askari Kanzu]

am a new member to this blog, havent read the rules of association and am not interested to. Fact is 'majority of you dont follow em anyway'. This talk of kenyan soldiers being whooped in crazy town z absolute gibberish. Unless u have militarily tested them, 'the army', please reserve ua shallow opinionated thoughts to your baraza. To something different, this thread has no meaning as of now. Alot of tz vs kenya litter the pages of this thread. Really sickening reading thirty plus pages revolving on the two countries.

It's good that now you are starting to wake up!

 

[livefire]

It's good that now you are starting to wake up!

*fact z am awake*, hate rhetorics, nkt. Lemmie put it this way, lets keep away from pasonal passions, tanzanians and kenyans alike.

 

[Wacha1]

Askari Kanzu

Wacha-na na hii Nyang'au ya kijaluo iache kwanza imalize kutumia flying toilet ndipo itapata akili. Nyang'aus hata siku moja hawawezi kujifunza. Ustaarabu imeuonea bongo. Ikimaliza vita kama bado iko nzima atakuja hapa.

 

[Bantugbro]

15 Kenyan troops killed in Somalia
Sun Nov 6, 2011 2:20PM GMT

Somalia government soldiers
At least 15 Kenyan troops have been killed by Somali soldiers, as conflict between the two sides intensifies, Press TV reports.


Reports indicate that three Somali soldiers gunned down 15 Kenyan troops near the southern town of Tabataa, escaping with Kenyan military trucks.


Meanwhile, Somali military officials are arguing that the soldiers killed the Kenyan troops by mistake.


The deaths took place only hours after the recent killing of at least 64 people in southern Somalia by US drone attacks and Kenya airstrikes.


Earlier, US assassination drones claimed the lives of some 24 Somalis.


Last month, Kenya dispatched soldiers over its border into Somalia and began air and ground offensives against al-Shabab fighters.


Tension has been growing between the Somali government backed by Kenyan troops and al-Shabab fighters since they engaged in fierce battle over control of towns in south Somalia.


Somalia has not had a functioning government since 1991, when warlords overthrew former dictator Mohamed Siad Barre.


Strategically located in the Horn of Africa, Somalia remains one of the countries generating the highest number of refugees and internally displaced persons in the world.

Source:
PressTV - 15 Kenyan troops killed in Somalia
SZH/JR

 

[kshaka]

15 Kenyan troops killed in Somalia
Sun Nov 6, 2011 2:20PM GMT

Somalia government soldiers
At least 15 Kenyan troops have been killed by Somali soldiers, as conflict between the two sides intensifies, Press TV reports.


Reports indicate that three Somali soldiers gunned down 15 Kenyan troops near the southern town of Tabataa, escaping with Kenyan military trucks.


Meanwhile, Somali military officials are arguing that the soldiers killed the Kenyan troops by mistake.


The deaths took place only hours after the recent killing of at least 64 people in southern Somalia by US drone attacks and Kenya airstrikes.


Earlier, US assassination drones claimed the lives of some 24 Somalis.


Last month, Kenya dispatched soldiers over its border into Somalia and began air and ground offensives against al-Shabab fighters.


Tension has been growing between the Somali government backed by Kenyan troops and al-Shabab fighters since they engaged in fierce battle over control of towns in south Somalia.


Somalia has not had a functioning government since 1991, when warlords overthrew former dictator Mohamed Siad Barre.


Strategically located in the Horn of Africa, Somalia remains one of the countries generating the highest number of refugees and internally displaced persons in the world.

Source:
PressTV - 15 Kenyan troops killed in Somalia
SZH/JR

Some here will obviously be happy to hear this news but allow me to ask a question;

Is this the same press TV that reported two weeks ago that 2 Kenyan jets had been shot down in Somalia...a report that then turned out to be false?

Is this the same press TV that reported just two days ago the two Kenyan choppers had been shot at and severely damaged and had then retreated to base (as if "severely damaged" aircraft return to base rather than fall out of the sky)...a report which, again, turned out to be false?

I think that I'll reserve judgement and I would advise that you guys should probably keep the champagne on ice for the time being (until this is verified, at least)!

 

[Askari Kanzu]

*fact z am awake*, hate rhetorics, nkt. Lemmie put it this way, lets keep away from pasonal passions, tanzanians and kenyans alike.

Thanks for that!

 

[NICK2275]

Some here will obviously be happy to hear this news but allow me to ask a question;

Is this the same press TV that reported two weeks ago that 2 Kenyan jets had been shot down in Somalia...a report that then turned out to be false?

Is this the same press TV that reported just two days ago the two Kenyan choppers had been shot at and severely damaged and had then retreated to base (as if "severely damaged" aircraft return to base rather than fall out of the sky)...a report which, again, turned out to be false?

I think that I'll reserve judgement and I would advise that you guys should probably keep the champagne on ice for the time being (until this is verified, at least)!

Press tv wamekuwa waropokaji sana na kujaribu kudanganya watu

 

[livefire]

Askari Kanzu

Wacha-na na hii Nyang'au ya kijaluo iache kwanza imalize kutumia flying toilet ndipo itapata akili. Nyang'aus hata siku moja hawawezi kujifunza. Ustaarabu imeuonea bongo. Ikimaliza vita kama bado iko nzima atakuja hapa.

really....helpless lot!! Pick a bone u can chew and define your comments with reason and not along tribal lines (am not luo and it shouldnt concern you anyway) plus polish your swahili. You have stooped too low, am not getting dragged to this.

 

[Bantugbro]

Some here will obviously be happy to hear this news but allow me to ask a question;

Is this the same press TV that reported two weeks ago that 2 Kenyan jets had been shot down in Somalia...a report that then turned out to be false?

Is this the same press TV that reported just two days ago the two Kenyan choppers had been shot at and severely damaged and had then retreated to base (as if "severely damaged" aircraft return to base rather than fall out of the sky)...a report which, again, turned out to be false?

I think that I'll reserve judgement and I would advise that you guys should probably keep the champagne on ice for the time being (until this is verified, at least)!

News are presented here as reported by respective journalists, it is the responsibility of the reader to digest, i had a difficult time to digest facts from fiction/propaganda during the NATO bombing of Libya....