Kenya Election 2007: Outcomes

[Mtanzania]

ODM's Marende is Speaker

Story by NATION Reporter
Publication Date: 1/15/2008
Orange Democratic Party's Kenneth Marende is the new Speaker.

The opposition MP-elect bagged the coveted seat after managing 105 votes to his rival Francis ole Kaparo's 101.

On his way to victory, Mr Marende led with 104 votes during the first round of voting and a similar number on the second. However, he could not be declared winner because he did not garner the two-thirds majority required in those rounds.



The third round was based on a simple majority.



The MPs-elect now go to the second phase of today's business where they elect a Deputy Speaker. The legislators would then be sworn in as MPs.

A total of 207 MPs-elect are participating in the election. Here is the sequence of events in the House.


ROUND ONE:

· Soon after the MPs-elect are called to order and prayers are said, Ugenya MP-elect James Orengo seeks clarification from the Clerk Samuel Ndindiri on the basis of voting through secret ballot as that was not provided for in the standing orders. Mr Ndindiri answers that the orders talk of ‘a ballot'.

· Voting begins and ODM MPs-elect mark their ballots and show them to their colleagues. This draws several interventions from the Government side who argue that it is against the procedures. The opposition side answers that it is their choice and that there is no provision in law against them showing each other marked ballots.

· Attorney General Amos Wako says that while it may not be explicit in the rules that voting be by secret ballot, they can borrow from the House of Commons where the practice is on.

· The Clerk asks that the ballots already in the box be removed and the voting to start all over again. The ballot box is moved to the dispatch area.


· 3.57pm – Voting resumes.

· 4.25pm – ODM-Kenya chairman and Minister for Information and Communication claims that ODM's George Khaniri and Joshua Orwa Ojode keep checking how MPs-elect are marking their votes. The clerk directs that the ballots be marked away from the two members

· 4.31pm – Opposition members make hissing sounds as Kangema MP-elect John Michuki casts his ballot, apparently in reference to Mr Michuki‘s remark two years ago that he who rattles a snake should be ready for to be bitten when police raided the Standard Newspaper Group offices.

· 5.03pm – Round one voting complete. Counting starts.

· 5.19pm – ODM's Kenneth Marende declared winner of Round One with 104 votes. PNU's Francis ole Kaparo gets 99, Kalembe Ndile got two votes while the other two candidates, Njoki Ndung'u and Wanyiri Kihoro got zero. Marende's votes do not add up to a two-thirds majority so the clerk orders a Round Two.



ROUND TWO:

· 5.26pm – Round Two of voting starts with President Kibaki casting his ballot followed by ODM's Raila Odinga.

· 6.00pm – Voting goes on relatively smoothly. Lots of movement on the Government side. Security Minister Prof Saitoti retreats with a few colleagues to the empty benches where they consult for a few minutes. Justice Minister Martha Karua talks to Vice-President Kalonzo Musyoka while fiddling with her mobile phone.

· 6.29pm – Voting ends and counting begins.

· 6.44pm – Marende is declared winner of round two with 104 votes against his closest rival Kaparo's 102. Mr Kihoro gets one vote, while Ms Ndung'u and Mr Ndile get none. The last three fall out of the race.



ROUND THREE:

· 6.49pm – Round Three voting begins, with only Marende and Kaparo in the race.

· 7.01pm – The clerk, Mr Ndindiri alerts the House that some television stations are showing how MPs-elect are marking their ballots. He warns that such journalists and media houses will be penalised.

· 7.44pm – Round Three voting ends, counting underway.

· 7.49pm – MPs-elect crowd the dispatch area to witness counting of ballots, but the clerk rules that only two members from each side should be allowed to observe the exercise.

· 8.07pm – Marende declared new Speaker after getting 105 votes to Mr Kaparo's 101. One vote is spoilt.

 

[Kitila Mkumbo]

Interesting, wish were there!

 

[Rwabugiri]

Duuuuuuu!!!
Ngoma ndo kwaaaaaaaaaanza !! Kibaka lazima aachie ngazi! Good job ODM!

 

[DAR si LAMU]

Ruto ana nguvu kweli kwenye kuongea, ni zaidi kabisa ya Odinga.

..ndio maana utamsikia raila akisema "now i'm going to let hon.william ruto continue.........."

 

[Kichuguu]

Niseme kweli opposition ya Kenya imenifurahisha sana sana; sijui kama kweli na sisi opposition yetu Tanzania itakuja fikia kiwango hicho. Hapa sasa ndipo Kibaki atajuta kung'ang'ania Ikulu kinyume cha sheria. Asije akaanza kale ka mchezo ka akina Dr. Robert Ouko, Tom Mboya, J.M. Kariuki na wengineo.

 

[Dua]

Kibaki hatakaa, ingekuwa busara akubali uchaguzi mwingine ufanyike kwa ajili ya kuokoa maisha ya Kenyans under International observers.

Na wale walioko Arusha kwenye EAC wakae huko huko wasiingilie mambo ya siasa na kula per diem za bure na kuropoka ropoka.

 

[DAR si LAMU]

Niseme kweli opposition ya Kenya imenifurahisha sana sana; sijui kama kweli na sisi opposition yetu Tanzania itakuja fikia kiwango hicho.

..labda ccm imeguke!

Hapa sasa ndipo Kibaki atajuta kung'ang'ania Ikulu kinyume cha sheria. Asije akaanza kale ka mchezo ka akina Dr. Robert Ouko, Tom Mboya, J.M. Kariuki na wengineo.

..hawezi,these are different times!

 

[Icadon]

Angalieni hii video, mie imenifurahisha sana..muone Kibaki.
Video

 

[Bongolander]

Kitila Mkumbo, i wonder why you are always for opposition.m Are you sure that Kenya will be better of with opposition in power?
I think we all agree that there was injustice during vote counting, but that does not necessarily mean that opposition in Kenya or ODM to be precise is Gold. Look at how the vote of Speaker went, seems to me other opposition parties including ODM-K were all bribed may be except NARC, how can you be so sure with opposition?

 

[Kalamu]

Hii nayo imefikaje hapa tena?
Siku zote ipo kule kwenye siasa za Kenya! Tunajua ilipo, tutaifuata huko huko ilipokuwa.

 

[Mnhenwa Ndege]

Kitila Mkumbo, i wonder why you are always for opposition.m Are you sure that Kenya will be better of with opposition in power?
I think we all agree that there was injustice during vote counting, but that does not necessarily mean that opposition in Kenya or ODM to be precise is Gold. Look at how the vote of Speaker went, seems to me other opposition parties including ODM-K were all bribed may be except NARC, how can you be so sure with opposition?

i think you have forgoten what is the bottom line. it doesnt really matter whether the current opposition if given power will make it or not, what we want is to respect the will of the masses. and that will is shown through voting. if ODM dont deliver then they we be sent off by the will of the people come 2012 or 2017. but for now the will of Kenyans is kibaki must go and Hon Raila was their choice. the will of the poeple must be respected no matter what. hizi siyo siku za kuchaguliwa mke.

 

[Kitila Mkumbo]

Kitila Mkumbo, i wonder why you are always for opposition.m Are you sure that Kenya will be better of with opposition in power?
I think we all agree that there was injustice during vote counting, but that does not necessarily mean that opposition in Kenya or ODM to be precise is Gold. Look at how the vote of Speaker went, seems to me other opposition parties including ODM-K were all bribed may be except NARC, how can you be so sure with opposition?

It is quite simple Sir/Madam, because history has shown us that opposition parties that went on to win elections and formed governments did far better than the previous regimes in improving economy and people's welfare in general, not to mention the fact that they opened up a bigger democratic space. Kenya is a good case example. Mwai Kibaki who came to presidency through an opposition ticket did far better than Moi's 24 years of ruling. We believe Raila would have done a lot more. But I think the point here is that Mwai lost election and refused to concede defeat, now, I wonder why do you want me to have respect to such a person who does not have respect to people's wishes!

In our country it is even more important and urgent to change a party in power given the fact that CCM has lost both the vision and steam to govern. They have actually become part and parcel of the problem and an integral barrier to our efforts to eradicate poverty. We will wallow into this misery of poverty for many years to come so long as we continue to have allegiance to CCM.

 

[Mnhenwa Ndege]

It is quite simple Sir/Madam, because history has shown us that opposition parties that went on to win elections and formed governments did far better than the previous regimes in improving economy and people's welfare in general, not to mention the fact that they opened up a bigger democratic space. Kenya is a good case example. Mwai Kibaki who came to presidency through an opposition ticket did far better than Moi's 24 years of ruling. We believe Raila would have done a lot more. But I think the point here is that Mwai lost election and refused to concede defeat, now, I wonder why do you want me to have respect to such a person who does not have respect to people's wishes!

In our country it is even more important and urgent to change a party in power given the fact that CCM has lost both the vision and steam to govern. They have actually become part and parcel of the problem and an integral barrier to our efforts to eradicate poverty. We will wallow into this misery of poverty for many years to come so long as we continue to have allegiance to CCM.

DONT GIVE UP, BELIEVE YOU ME, THERE IS LIGHTS AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.

 

[Mwafrika]

It is quite simple Sir/Madam, because history has shown us that opposition parties that went on to win elections and formed governments did far better than the previous regimes in improving economy and people's welfare in general, not to mention the fact that they opened up a bigger democratic space. Kenya is a good case example. Mwai Kibaki who came to presidency through an opposition ticket did far better than Moi's 24 years of ruling. We believe Raila would have done a lot more. But I think the point here is that Mwai lost election and refused to concede defeat, now, I wonder why do you want me to have respect to such a person who does not have respect to people's wishes!

In our country it is even more important and urgent to change a party in power given the fact that CCM has lost both the vision and steam to govern. They have actually become part and parcel of the problem and an integral barrier to our efforts to eradicate poverty. We will wallow into this misery of poverty for many years to come so long as we continue to have allegiance to CCM.

Kitila,

Unajua kuna watu wako tayari kuwa na Prezident Mugabe, Bokasa, Mobutu, nakadhalika ili kulinda status quo bila kujali kuwa kila kitu kina mwanzo wake. Utakuta wanatoa mifano michache ya vile upinzani unashindwa huku wakiacha mifano maelfu ya serikali za kiafrika ambazo zimekuwa madarakani tangu uhuru na kushindwa kufanya chochote kusaidia maendeleo ya nchi.

 

[Mnhenwa Ndege]

Kenya police fire warning shots

The situation is tense in the opposition stronghold of Kisumu
Police in the Kenyan city of Kisumu have fired shots over the heads of protesters at a rally against disputed presidential election results.
Some 300 people were trying to march into the town centre when the police opened fire. A BBC reporter there saw two people being carried away.

There have also been reports of scuffles in Mombasa and Eldoret.

The rallies are part of a three-day nationwide protest called for by the opposition Orange Democratic Movement.

The police are well prepared to counter any groups attempting to disrupt peace

Eric Kiraithe
Police spokesman

They come a day after an ODM candidate became parliament speaker.

The protests, planned in 30 cities and towns across the country, have been banned by police, who called them "inappropriate".

The new speaker, Kenneth Marende, told the BBC that the ODM had the constitutional right to begin three days of protests against the election of President Mwai Kibaki.

Unrest since the announcement of the results has claimed more than 600 lives, driven about a quarter of a million of people from their homes and shaken relations between the country's dominant ethnic groups.

Sporadic gunfire

The BBC's Karen Allen in the western town of Kisumu, home to ODM presidential challenger Raila Odinga, said protesters had dispersed.

However, sporadic gunfire could still be heard.

Security forces are patrolling the streets of the capital, Nairobi, but so far heavy rain has prevented large numbers of demonstrators from appearing on the streets.


See an aerial map of Nairobi and the city centre
Opposition supporters, many of them from the slums of Nairobi, hope to march on the city's politically symbolic Uhuru (Freedom) Park.




Slum wary of ethnic violence
Kenya's dubious election

"People are anticipating chaos and many of them will go to the rallies," one resident of Nairobi's Mathare slum told the Reuters news agency.

ODM leaders are gathering at their party headquarters in the capital to prepare a statement, reports say.

There are heavily armed police stationed around Uhuru Park, but otherwise police presence remains minimal compared to Tuesday, when large parts of the city's business district was sealed off as MPs were being sworn in.

Many shopkeepers have boarded up their properties to try to prevent looting

There have been running battles between protesters and police in Mombasa where several people have been injured.

A BBC correspondent in the port city says opposition activists wearing white ribbons and carrying placards staged sit-ins at the main roads leading into the city.

In Eldoret, which witnessed the burning of a church in post-poll violence, protesters also erected roadblocks in the outskirts of town.

Burnt-out buildings

Police spokesman Eric Kiraithe said the rallies would be unlawful until the security situation across the country returned to normal.


Protesters carried a coffin to symbolise the death of democracy

"The constitution allows groups to hold the protests but the police are well prepared to counter any groups attempting to disrupt peace," he told the BBC.

Mr Kibaki was re-elected on 27 December, but Mr Odinga says the poll was rigged. Election observers have also complained of irregularities in the presidential vote count.

Attempts at outside mediation between Mr Odinga and President Mwai Kibaki have failed with the latest, a bid by Kofi Annan, postponed when the former United Nations chief fell ill.

At Tuesday's inauguration of the new parliament, Kenya's two bitter rivals studiously ignored each other, correspondents say.

The new speaker said opposition's dominance of parliament would make it difficult for President Mwai Kibaki's PNU party to impose itself, and that it might be forced into forming a coalition.

 

[Mnhenwa Ndege]

KENYA: Health workers grappling with conflict-related sexual violence 16 Jan 2008 07:19:24 GMT
Source: IRIN
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NAIROBI, 15 January 2008 (IRIN) - As Kenya counts the human and material cost of the political violence, hospitals are reporting an increase in reported rapes during the immediate post-election period, spurring the government and health organisations to find ways to treat these cases as well as protect the displaced from further incidents of sexual violence.

"In the first two days of the violence, 56 people were treated for rape and admitted; there are so many other victims back in the slums who have not received any medical attention," Lucy Kiama, chief nurse at the Nairobi Women's Hospital, which specialises in sexual violence, told IRIN.

She added that the number of rape survivors seeking treatment at the facility had doubled during the violence. Many women who came to the hospital, she added, reported that there were many more in the slums who had failed to seek treatment because of security reasons or fear of stigmatisation.

Political unrest erupted in many parts of Kenya on 30 December 2007, immediately after the Electoral Commission of Kenya declared incumbent President Mwai Kibaki the winner of the election held on 27 December. Kibaki's main challenger, Raila Odinga, rejected the result and claimed he won the election, alleging it was rigged in Kibaki's favour.

The UN estimates the violence has led to the displacement of 250,000 people across the country, many of whom are living in hastily assembled camps. Health workers have also expressed concern that women and children remain at risk of sexual attacks in these poorly protected camps, especially given that the referral systems that would exist normally to handle sex attacks have broken down.

"Women and children were raped, men and boys as well . it is still taking place in the camps because of the large numbers of displaced people," said Florence Gachanja, national programme officer for the UN Population Fund, UNFPA.

According to Jeanne Ward, an international consultant on gender-based violence, it is crucial that protective measures such as lighting and separate latrines for men and women be set up in the camps to prevent further attacks.

She noted that in emergency situations where the infrastructure breaks down, women and girls tend to be put at increased risk of violence, particularly sexual violence.

"These sexual attacks may be crimes of opportunism, where people take advantage of the breakdown of normal protection mechanisms to rape, or in cases where the war pits one group against another, such as ethnic violence, the rapes may be targeted at one particular group of women and girls," she said, noting that in Kenya's case, it was too early to tell whether the rapes were gratuitous or targeted, although investigations had begun.

"Sexual violence has immediate consequences for the physical and psychological health of the survivor; for instance, they need to have access to post-exposure prophylactic [PEP] kits to prevent them from contracting HIV," she added. "Where people are displaced, it is vital that they know where to go in case they are attacked and that they receive psycho-social post-trauma care."

Taking action

The government and NGOs have begun to respond to the situation, with UNFPA providing PEP kits to medical centres through the Kenya Red Cross Society and other NGOs, and larger hospitals setting up satellite centres in badly affected areas to provide a minimum service to the injured, including people who have suffered sexual attacks.

The Nairobi Women's Hospital, in collaboration with the Psychological Association of Kenya, has opened counselling centres in the slum areas of Mathare, Huruma and Kibera, the areas worst-affected by violence in the capital.

The hospital has appealed to counsellors to volunteer their services for victims of sexual violence among internally displaced persons in other parts of the country, especially in the Rift Valley areas of Eldoret, Timboroa, Nakuru, Burnt Forest and Limuru, and the cities of Kisumu and Mombasa, which were also severely affected by the violence.

Jane Onyango, executive director of the Federation of Women Lawyers in Kenya, cautioned that gender issues must not be forgotten when seeking solutions to Kenya's current crisis.

"In situations such as this, the legal process is hard as it is often difficult for most of the women to identify their abusers," she said. "There is a need for greater collaboration among institutions dealing with women's issues," she added.

Onyango said the federation planned to visit the violence hotspots to assist in the process of conflict resolution and in counselling internally displaced people.

According to Ward, despite the current difficulties, Kenya has addressed the issue of sexual violence and has mechanisms in place that make it better able than many of its neighbours to handle the current situation.

"Nevertheless, there will be a need to create a multi-sectoral response to ensure that beyond addressing the health needs of survivors of sexual violence, security issues are dealt with, the legal process is streamlined and the police have the capacity to handle the cases in a safe and ethical manner," she said.

sm/kr/mw

© IRIN. All rights reserved. More humanitarian news and analysis: http://www.IRINnews.org

 

[Mnhenwa Ndege]

niliona hard talks jana, akihojiwa Raila Odinga and he really expressed himself well. alijibu maswali magumu very well and confidently bila ya jazba. it seems he is a very matured politician. what he currently wants is a forensic retallying of the votes by an independent person or organization. Bravo Raila.

 

[Mnhenwa Ndege]

Polisi nchini Kenya wamekuwa wakipambana na wafuasi wa upinzani katika miji mbali mbali huku maandamano ya kupinga matokeo ya uchaguzi uliopita yakiingia siku ya pili.
Katika mji wa Kisumu magharibi mwa nchi, Polisi wamekuwa na kazi kubwa ya kuondoa vizuizi barabarani vilivyowekwa na wafuasi wa chama kikuu cha upinzani cha ODM.

Na katika mitaa ya mabanda ya Kibera na Mathare mjini Nairobi ghasia zimeripotiwa huku makundi ya vijana yakiteketeza magurudumu ya magari na kufunga barabara.

Katika mwanzo wa maandamano siku ya jumaatano Polisi waliwapiga risasi na kuwauwa watu watatu mjini Kisumu .

Makundi ya kutetea haki nchini Kenya yamekuwa yakielezea hamasa zao kwa wakuu wa polisi nchini humo , yakilaani utumiaji wa risasi .

Kiongozi wa upinzani Raila Odinga ameambia BBC kwamba jamii ya kimataifa inatakiwa kuiwekea Kenya vikwazo vya kiuchumi .

Bunge la jumuiya ya ulaya limekuwa likikutana kupiga kura ya kusimamisha msaada kwa Kenya.

Lakini wadadisi wanasema vikwazo vya kifedha dhidi ya Kenya haviwezi kulete mabadiliko makubwa kwani nchi hiyo ya Afrika mashariki imeweza kupata ukuaji wa uchumi wake kwa asilimia 6 bila msaada wa kigeni katika muda wa miaka mitano iliyopita.

Raila Odinga anataka kura zihesabiwe upya , akiongeza kwamba ataacha kupinga matokeo hayo endapo hesabu mpya itaonyesha kwamba Rais Kibaki ndiye aliyeshinda.

Vile vile anasema chama chake kiko tayari kushiriki katika serikali ya muungano kwa muda ili kuwezesha kuundwa kwa tume huru ya uchaguzi itakayoandaa uchaguzi mpya wa urais katika muda utakaoafikiwa.

Yeye mwenyewe anapendekeza muda huo kuwa miezi mitatu au sita.

Wakati huo huo, umoja wa mataifa umeanza juhudi za kuomba msaada wa dola milioni 34 za kuwapelekea misaada waathirika wa ghasia zilizofuatia uchaguzi wa Kenya.

Zaidi ya watu mia sita waliuwawa kwenye ghasia hizo .Zaidi ya watu nusu milioni wametoroka makwao , huku wengine zaidi ya elfu sita wakitorokea nchini Uganda.

Kenya ndiyo nchi iliyopata ufanisi mkubwa kiuchumi katika eneo la Afrika mashariki , na kawaida mazao mengi ya kilimo ya nchi hiyo yamekuwa yakitoka katika mkoa wa bonde la Ufa .

Lakini sasa ghasia za kikabila zilizofuatia uchaguzi zimeathiri vibaya uzalishaji na usambazaji wa chakula kutoka mkoani humo.

Mratibu wa misaada katika umoja wa mataifa Sir John Holmes amesema fedha hizo zinazotakiwa katika muda wa miezi sita ijayo zitatumika kutoa msaada wa chakula.


HABARI MPYA
Maandamano yaingia siku ya pili Kenya
Maandamano ya siku tatu yaanza kwa fujo
Demokrasia ya Ulaya haifai Afrika - Uchina
Tata yaunda gari bei nafuu zaidi duniani

 

[Mnhenwa Ndege]

NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) -- Young men armed with machetes hurled stones at police who fired back tear gas in a slum in Kenya's capital Thursday, but most of the country was quiet as opposition protests over a disputed presidential election appeared to lose steam.


The Kenyan Army attends a roadblock opposition supporters set up near Eldoret.

Residents hid indoors and crouched on the floors of shops as young men ran past in Nairobi's Mathare slum. Police fired tear gas down dirt alleyways and gunshots into the air.

Opposition leader Raila Odinga called for three days of demonstrations that began Wednesday. Turnout has been low, however, and there have been few of the serious clashes or torching of homes that immediately followed the announcement of results from the December 27 election.

President Mwai Kibaki won a second term according to official results, but observers said the count was rigged.

"Our rallies will continue until the government sits down with us and seeks a solution," opposition spokesman Salim Lone told The Associated Press. "Calling off rallies would be admitting defeat to those who first stole the presidential election and are now killing innocent protesters on sight."

Government spokesman Alfred Mutua repeated Kibaki's position that the opposition should take its grievances to court and said the administration "is very open to dialogue."

Riots and ethnic killings in the wake of the disputed vote have marred Kenya's image as a stable democratic oasis in a war-ravaged region and damaged its tourist-dependent economy. It has also exacerbated long-simmering ethnic tensions and conflicts over land.

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Police firing tear gas and bullets halted protests Wednesday. The violence appeared to have been worst in Kisumu, Kenya's third-largest city, where opposition officials said police killed protesters. One such shooting was captured by local television crews, but it was unclear if the wounded man died.

On Thursday, at least four corpses lay in a morgue in Kisumu, all adult males. Each had been shot. The government has banned the demonstrations, but the opposition and Kenyan human rights groups say the government has no authority to do so.

This week, 13 nations, including the United States and Britain, increased pressure on rival politicians to find a solution, threatening to cut aid to the government "if the commitment of the government of Kenya to good governance, democracy, the rule of law and human rights weakens."

Mutua told reporters: "The government of Kenya will not be blackmailed .... We are able to support ourselves." About 6 percent of Kenya's budget comes from foreign aid.

In Britain, the Federation of Tour Operators extended a ban on charter flights to Monday. The Press Association quoted the largest British tour operator to Kenya, Somak, as saying they were offering alternative vacations in India.

A few dozen miles outside the western town of Eldoret, 12 empty trucks and buses blocked a main road. The drivers, milling nearby, said they had been stopped overnight by around 150 young men armed with machetes who robbed them, flattened their tires and stole fuel. One bus was filled with aid supplies from the U.N. World Food Program.

Driver Rashid Hassan, 42, said the culprits told them they had blocked the road because 'until Kibaki leaves, there is no peace."'

Late Wednesday, the United Nations launched an appeal for nearly $42 million to help half a million Kenyans affected by the violence. U.N. humanitarian chief John Holmes said the money was needed to provide food, shelter, health care and other services for the next six months.

U.S. Ambassador Michael Ranneberger said Wednesday that a power-sharing arrangement was "the only thing to do," but that it would not be easy to persuade Kibaki and Odinga to agree to such a compromise. Still, "both have looked us in the eye and said they are willing to have a dialogue," Ranneberger said, speaking by telephone hookup Wednesday from Kenya to a conference at the Center for Strategic International Studies, a Washington think tank.

 

[The Truth]

i think you have forgoten what is the bottom line. it doesnt really matter whether the current opposition if given power will make it or not, what we want is to respect the will of the masses. and that will is shown through voting. if ODM dont deliver then they we be sent off by the will of the people come 2012 or 2017. but for now the will of Kenyans is kibaki must go and Hon Raila was their choice. the will of the poeple must be respected no matter what. hizi siyo siku za kuchaguliwa mke.

Have you ever heard of the saying "the masses are the asses"? The masses don't always know what is good for them. Look at history, the masses voted for Hitler, the masses accepted slavery, the masses voted for Bush, etc. The list is endless...