Kenya president unlikely to attend ICC trial

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Kenya president unlikely to attend ICC trial

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JASON STRAZIUSO and TOM ODULA 56 minutes ago

NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) — In the aftermath of the attack on a Nairobi shopping mall, Kenya's president appears increasingly unlikely to attend his trial at the International Criminal Court where he is charged with crimes against humanity.

Even as heads of state prepare to gather for an African Union summit Saturday, where they could debate the possible exit of some African countries from the International Criminal Court, Kenyan officials are warning that President Uhuru Kenyatta might not show up in The Hague next month for his trial.

"He has cooperated fully with the court up until now," Foreign Minister Amina Mohamed told a news conference Wednesday held in front of the president's downtown Nairobi office. She was referring to past ICC hearings before Kenya's presidential election in March.
Mohamed underscored the contrast between then — when Kenyatta was the country's deputy prime-minister and a presidential candidate — and now, when he is president of East Africa's most powerful country, which faces a rising threat posed by Islamic insurgents.
"Are the circumstances different? Absolutely. Totally. Completely different. Before he wasn't the head of state of the republic. ... It's going to be the first time that a sitting head is brought before any court of any time, not just here but anywhere in the world," Mohamed said.
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FILE - In this Saturday, March 2, 2013 file photo, then Kenyan Presidential candidate Uhuru Kenyatta …

The ICC charges against Kenyatta and Deputy President William Ruto relate to Kenya's 2007-08 postelection violence that killed more than 1,000 people. Kenyatta has asked the court if he can attend the trial by video link. Judges have not yet ruled and have rejected that request from Ruto.
Herman von Hebel, an ICC executive, told reporters in The Hague on Wednesday that Kenyan authorities have so far fully cooperated with the case and he has not yet seen "any concrete element" to indicate that will change.

Privately, several members of Kenya's government have told The Associated Press they do not believe Kenyatta will report to The Hague. One official said tribal elders are urging Ruto not to return after finishing his current court session. All officials insisted on anonymity to speak freely about internal government deliberations.
Before this year's election, the top U.S. official for Africa obliquely warned Kenyans that it wouldn't be a good idea to elect Kenyatta as their president because of the ICC charges, saying "choices have consequences."
But the Sept. 21 mall attack has increased Kenya's — and Kenyatta's — value to the West in the war against terror. The Somali Islamic group al-Shabab claimed responsibility for the assault and said it was in retaliation for Kenya's sending of troops into neighboring Somalia.
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If Kenyatta decides not to attend the ICC trial, Kenya could become politically isolated and be sanctioned. But after the mall attack that killed more than 60 people, international repercussions may be lighter.
Officials at the U.S. Embassy refused to comment on the developments and the possibility that Kenyatta may snub the court.

"The already strong but now reinforced counterterrorism relationship between Kenyatta's administration and the U.S. and U.K. will likely diminish the impact of ongoing ICC cases against Kenyatta and his deputy," said Clare Allenson of the political consulting firm Eurasia Group.

She pointed out that the West's heightened security engagements with Kenya "will require more direct interaction and support of the Kenyatta administration at a senior level, including with the president himself."
Seth Jones, a terrorism analyst at the Washington D.C.-based Rand Corporation, said: "Kenya's importance as a counterterrorism partner should increase after the Westgate attacks."
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FILE - In this Friday, Sept. 27, 2013 file photo, Kenya's President Uhuru Kenyatta, center left, arr …

At the African Union summit in Ethiopia's capital, African leaders could recommend a deferral of Kenyatta's case, or even seek to rebuke the court or sever the continent's relationship with it. Kenya's parliament in a non-binding vote last month voted to pull out of the Rome Statue, the legal mechanism that created the ICC.
The ICC faces a perception that it singles out Africans for prosecution, even though many of the cases before the ICC were self-referred, said David M. Crane, a professor at Syracuse University College of Law.
"Politically I cannot see a head of state voluntarily being present in The Hague to stand trial," Crane said. "Legally I see no advantage for him to submit himself to the court. The bright red thread of modern international criminal law is politics. Politically this is a lose-lose situation, for both the ICC and the Kenyans."

The United States, which is not a party to the Rome Statute, says it supports the goals of the ICC and believes in promoting justice and ending impunity.
More than 1,000 people were killed in Kenya's postelection violence six years ago. Kenyan courts have prosecuted less than a half dozen people.

Associated Press reporter Mike Corder in The Hague, Netherlands, contributed to this report
 
"Politically I cannot see a head of state voluntarily being present in The Hague to
stand trial
," Crane said. "Legally I see no advantage for him to submit himself to
the court.
The bright red thread of modern international criminal law is politics.
Politically this is a lose-lose situation, for both the ICC and the Kenyans."

Let those blind,,,few blind Kenyans open their eyes,,,,and see the real picture.

Ati rais aende,,,,sijui wapi,,,,,mtakaa Landa:smile-big😛oor bros and sis's,,
wake up and live.

You have been,wedging,,a self defeating,,war.

Na,,bado,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
how will the more than 1000 people died during the post election violence get justice??
 
Kenya's president seeks to prevent his ICC trial

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FILE - In this Friday, Sept. 27, 2013 file photo, Kenya's President Uhuru Kenyatta, center left, arrives for the burial ceremony of his nephew Mbugua Mwangi and Mwangi's fiancee Rosemary Wahito, who were both killed in the Westgate Mall terrorist attack, at the burial site in the village of Ichawara, Kenya. Kenya's foreign minister Amina Mohamed said at a news conference Wednesday, Oct. 9, 2013 that no sitting president in the world has had to appear before a court, a statement that comes as Kenya appears to be laying the groundwork to avoid having President Uhuru Kenyatta appear at the International Criminal Court next month. (AP Photo/Ben Curtis, File)


MIKE CORDER 1 hour ago

THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — Kenya's president sought Thursday to halt his International Criminal Court trial before it starts, claiming that corrupt witnesses and intermediaries for the prosecution make a fair trial impossible.

In a written request, Uhuru Kenyatta's lawyers asked the court to permanently end the case against him because "the prosecution is presiding over an utterly corrupt and dishonest case."
Kenyatta is due to go on trial Nov. 12 for crimes against humanity allegedly committed during violence that left more than 1,000 dead in the aftermath of Kenya's disputed 2007 presidential elections.

Kenyatta, who was elected president at elections earlier this year, denies the charge, and his lawyers have repeatedly claimed that the prosecution case against him is based on false testimony.
He has always cooperated with the court and is not in custody. If his trial goes ahead, he has applied to be excused from attending hearings in The Hague so he can continue to carry out his duties as head of state.

Prosecutors are expected to respond in writing, and the court could order a hearing into the claims.
In a lengthy and heavily redacted motion, Kenyatta's lawyers accuse witnesses and intermediaries of lying, threatening other witnesses and pulling together a corrupt group of prosecution witnesses to testify against Kenyatta, who is accused of organizing attacks on his political opponents in late 2007 and early 2008.

Last week, the court issued an arrest warrant for a Kenyan, Walter Barasa, who is accused of bribing or attempting to bribe ICC prosecution witnesses in Kenya not to testify.

Kenyatta's filing came ahead of an African Union summit on Saturday which is expected to debate the possible exit of some nations from the court, which many leaders on the continent accuse of unfair bias against Africa. So far, all the court's indictments are against Africans.
 
Foreign Secretary Amina Mohamed on Tuesday quoted by BBC swahili version Uhuru Kenyatta is willing and able to cooperate with ICC, what went wrong quickly??
 
Foreign Secretary Amina Mohamed on Tuesday quoted by BBC swahili version that President Uhuru Kenyatta is willing and able to cooperate with ICC, what went wrong quickly??
 
Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta's lawyers have asked the International Criminal Court (ICC) to abandon his trial even before it starts.


In a written request to The Hague-based court, they said they had evidence that defence witnesses had been intimidated.
The lawyers also claimed that prosecution witnesses had been trying to pervert the course of justice.
Mr Kenyatta is accused of crimes against humanity during the 2007 post-election violence - a claim he denies.
Some 1,200 people died and 600,000 were forced from their homes during the conflict.

Mr Kenyatta's trial is set to start in The Hague on 12 November.

THE EAST AFRICA TIMES
 
how will the more than 1000 people died during the post election violence get justice??

will egyptians currently dying ever get justice? or is it war on terror?!
 
Uhuru is not immune to trial folks. During the campaigns he said he will cooperate with the ICC, then also
carelessly claimed they are iinocent and that one Raila Odinga is the one who is orchestrating their woes at
the court...what bull-----. Please save us this choreographed stupidity and just go to court and prove
your innocence as you claim. Why all this noise?

By FELIX OLICK at The Hague



The International Criminal Court ( ICC) has clarified that international law does not exempt a sitting president from prosecution.

ICC's warning comes a day after Foreign Affairs Cabinet secretary Amb Amina Mohamed implied that President Uhuru Kenyatta, as a sitting president is immune to prosecution.

In what appeared like a warning salvo to the country's leadership, Court Registrar Herman von Hebel maintained that the Rome Statute is clear that there is no immunity for anyone including heads of states
"I don't think its right to say that a sitting president cannot sit in a trial," Hebel pointed out before adding: "I have worked in the Yugoslav Tribunal where at one point the Prime Minister, an equivalent to the Head of State of Kosovo stepped down and had someone else take over the job and came to the Hague in order to face justice," he told journalists on Wednesday evening.
On Wednesday, Ambassador Mohammed had said: "It is going to be the first time a serving Head of State is brought before any court of any kind, not just here, but anywhere in the world, and I could challenge you to tell me in what place on earth a serving president has been brought before a court of justice."
But the Registrar added yesterday: "The ICC statute itself makes it very clear that there is no immunity for anyone including heads of States."
This, even as it emerged that Deputy President William Ruto will be back in Nairobi to allow his boss to attend the African Union summit to discuss a possible united pullout from the ICC.
Court Registrar Herman von Hebel cautioned that attempts to pull out from the ICC founding treaty, the Rome Statute, would send the wrong signal about Africa's commitment to protect and promote human rights and reject impunity.
"The court was established to fight impunity in order to bring justice to the victims," he pointed out adding that victims of atrocities across the globe believe in the ICC process.
Hebel also answered Foreign Affairs Cabinet Secretary Amina Mohammed who appeared to suggest that President Kenyatta may not travel to The Hague when his trial starts on November 12.

Standard Digital News - Kenya : ICC says Uhuru not immune to trial
 
that is what AU is pushing for at Addis, if the icc would allow the president and deputy trials on video link.
 
Wewe umeulizwa ya Kenya afu sasa unajibu ya Misri?...swali bado lipo palepale halijajibiwa.

Very,,,,funny,,it is,,only in Kenya,,,where astrocities,,against humanity,,have
ever occurred.

Kenya is so serious,,than in Syria,,,where a month ago,,some 1300 Syrians
were gassed,,,,in the glare of all cameras of this world.

But,,someone,,somewhere will say,,that we live Syria and,,Egypt,,out
of it,,and deal with what happened in Kenya,,,some six years ago:smile-big:

Very intelligent and human,,,,indeed.
 
Uhuru is not immune to trial folks. During the campaigns he said he will cooperate with the ICC, then also
carelessly claimed they are iinocent and that one Raila Odinga is the one who is orchestrating their woes at
the court...what bull-----. Please save us this choreographed stupidity and just go to court and prove
your innocence as you claim. Why all this noise?

Ha ha he he hi hi,,,,,,,,,,,,what?????????the same advise to the president,,by those poor
CORD MP's who were imploring the president,,to just honor what he said,,and just gp
and humiliate,,himself????????

It is very,,easy,,,,to fool some Kenyans,,,Uhuru Kenyatta and William Ruto,,are
far ahead,,of your,,little,,thinking.

They cannot,,be enjoying,,the immense powers,,at their hands,,,if they had
possessed that little way of seeing,,things.

Yes,,the president said so,,about,,him going to Hague.

But,,did you expect him,,,,deep in your hearts,,to do so???????

Come on guys,,,,,start waking up and facing reality.

It has never happened,,anywhere in the world,,for a sitting president
to attend some foolish case,,somewhere in a foreign lands.

So you expect the son of Jomo,,to do that??????????

Now,,he is saying it aloud,,,that he does not believe in that
ICC thing,,,,what are you going to do about it.

Nothing,,,my dear,,Sirs and Madams,,,you cannot do anything
about it,,,,if you were counting on ICC to help you ascend into
power,,illegally,,,forget it.

For,,Uhuru is going to nowhere,,tell your friend to start with those
useless,,eti isolations,,,,,,,,bring it on.

But those who were threatening Kenya with consequences,,,are dead
silent,,,,,,to the dismay of many Kenyans,,in the opposition.
 
Uhuru is not immune to trial folks. During the campaigns he said he will cooperate with the ICC, then also
carelessly claimed they are iinocent and that one Raila Odinga is the one who is orchestrating their woes at
the court...what bull-----. Please save us this choreographed stupidity and just go to court and prove
your innocence as you claim. Why all this noise?

Ha ha he he hi hi,,,,,,,,,,,,what?????????

The same advise to the president,,the same as,,, that offered,,for free,,:smile-big:
by those poor CORD MP's who were imploring the president,,to just honor
what he said,,and just go to the Hague and humiliate,,himself????????

It is very,,easy,,,,to fool some Kenyans,,,Uhuru Kenyatta and William Ruto,,are
far ahead,,of your,,little,,thinking.


They cannot,,be enjoying,,that immense powers,,at their hands,,,if they had,,
possessed that little way of seeing,,things,,as some few
Kenyans will want to believe..

Yes,,the president said so,,about,,him going to Hague.

But,,did you expect him,,,,deep in your hearts,,to do so???????

Come on guys,,,,,start waking up and facing reality.

It has never happened,,anywhere in the world,,for a sitting president
to attend some foolish case,,somewhere in a foreign lands.

So you expected the son of Jomo,,to be the first one,,do so??????????

And let himself,,become a laughing stock????????

You were very,,wrong,,,as you have been,,always,,,,seeing everything
upside down,,and it is up on yourself,,,,to blame.

Now,,he is saying it aloud,,,that he does not believe in that
ICC thing,,,,what are you going to do about it.

Nothing,,,my dear,,Sirs and Madams,,,you cannot do anything
about it,,,,if you were counting on ICC to help you ascend into
power,,illegally,,,forget it.

For,,Uhuru is going to nowhere,,tell your friend to start with those
useless,,eti isolations,,,,,,,,bring it on.

But those who were threatening Kenya with consequences,,,are dead
silent,,,,,,to the dismay of many Kenyans,,in the opposition.
 
Uhuru is not immune to trial folks. During the campaigns he said he will cooperate with the ICC, then also
carelessly claimed they are iinocent and that one Raila Odinga is the one who is orchestrating their woes at
the court...what bull-----. Please save us this choreographed stupidity and just go to court and prove
your innocence as you claim. Why all this noise?

Ha ha he he hi hi,,,,,,,,,,,,what?????????

The same advise to the president,,the same as,,, that offered,,for free,,:smile-big:
by those poor CORD MP's who were imploring the president,,to just honor
what he said,,and just go to the Hague and humiliate,,himself????????

Is it not time,,,,to wake up,,from,,your deep,,slumber???????

Is it not,,, very,,easy,,,,to fool some Kenyans,,,Uhuru Kenyatta and William
Ruto,,are far ahead,,of your,,little,,thinking.


They cannot,,be enjoying,,that immense powers,,at their hands,,,if they had,,
possessed that little way of seeing,,things,,as some few
Kenyans will want to believe..

Yes,,the president said so,,about,,him going to Hague.

But,,did you expect him,,,,deep in your hearts,,him,,,to do so???????

Come on guys,,,,,start waking up and facing the harsh reality.

It has never happened,,anywhere in the world,,for a sitting president
to attend some foolish case,,somewhere in a foreign lands.

So you expected the son of Jomo,,to be the first one,,do so??????????

And let himself,,become a laughing stock????????

You were very,,wrong,,,as you have been,,always,,,,seeing everything
upside down,,and it is up on yourself,,,,to blame.

Now,,he is saying it aloud,,,that he does not believe in that
ICC thing,,,,what are you going to do about it.

Nothing,,,my dear,,Sirs and Madams,,,you cannot do anything
about it,,,,if you were counting on ICC to help you ascend into
power,,illegally,,,in Kenya,,,,,forget it,,and very fast.


For,,Uhuru is going to nowhere,,tell your friend to start with those
useless,,eti isolations,,,,blockade or whatever fancy,,names,,,,bring it on.

But those who were threatening Kenya with consequences,,,are dead
silent,,,,,,to the dismay of many Kenyans,,in the opposition.

The British,,do not know,,how to handle this matter,,,,Obama is
facing some,,,,depressing problems,,in the US,,,,with no money
to run,,,,,his,,godly government.

For those who wants to hang themselves in Kenya,,,,because
Uhuru has refused to go to the Hague,,,,this is the right time
to look,,,,for the best,,ropes in Kenya,,,,for the prize may
go up,,,very soon,,,with demand going up very fast.

Poor,,,,,,,,,, souls.

 
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