Kenya ranks up there as a failed state....WOW!!!

[RealDeal]

What u fail to grasp is the fact that those maps are made from score and rank. Hizo maps zinaonesha approximate details, wakati ranking inaonesha hadi paramaeters na score zake..now who is a dumbell ? nani anaongoza ligi? Sirejei tena kuongelea hili maana ni upotevu wa wakati kuongea na mtu asiyejua maana.

dumbell?? hehe... need not say more either. But to end it all, this is the general rank:
1. Most stable
2. Stable
3. Borderline
4. In danger
5. Critical
all African countries fall in 5 & 6, thus are "in danger" and "Critical". of course apart from Botswana, RSA and a few others.
So i don't see a difference, in those parameters and score whatsoever. Those with proper strategies will prevail and the map will change, cause it's not deemed for eternity.

 

[Nyaralego]

we know dar esalaam's dirty and poor neighbourhoods too. so if u wanna post picture of kibera then its all good. we can do this all day!!!!

Tandale

as i said we can do this all day

Nomasana...do not forget Uwanja wa fisi and Manzese...

 

[Kichuguu]

Nobody claimed Dar es Salaam to be Paris; we know our problems and we never pretend to be everything.

But some of you guys in Kenya pretend that you are everything; you don't want to swallow the fact that Kenya is sinking. Every day we hear the same song: Kenya is this, Kenya has that, even obscure things are terribly glorified. Come down to reality; Kenya is not everything. Your current tribal tension, which is referred to as "Demographic Pressures" is a time bomb that can explode anytime. Are you guys regulars at Mashada.com? You must have read something like this:

These are surely tough times for most kenyans across the board. Hard economic times. The rich cannot even enjoy their smooth rides without the fear of being attacked, kidnaped or even killed..oftentimes in the safety of their homes.

The warning signs have been there for a very long time. Torture chambers at Nyayo house, political assassinations, tribal clashes, bomb blasts, people trapped in burning building, election violence.

Parents are burying their loved ones again and again. Kids are losing their parents each day. Generations are being wiped away..yet people are being prepped to cling to false hope...

Overtime, these factors can become burdensome...pick up our newspaper and it will not take you much to realize that what our politicians are talking about ni smoke screen tupu....

Kenyans are becoming crazy day in, day out....even in foreign countries they are committing capital offenses like never before.

Kenya is becoming a crazy country and we do not know it..people are traumatized...

Look at the reactions!

This quote shows that there are some Kenyans who know the truth about their country, only a few dreamers are the ones boasting here everyday.

Sorry, this quote is posted here

 

[RealDeal]

Nobody claimed Dar es Salaam to be Paris; we know our problems and we never pretend to be everything.

But some of you guys in Kenya pretend that you are everything; you don't want to swallow the fact that Kenya is sinking. Every day we hear the same song: Kenya is this, Kenya has that, even obscure things are terribly glorified. Come down to reality; Kenya is not everything. Your current tribal tension, which is referred to as "Demographic Pressures" is a time bomb that can explode anytime. Are you guys regulars at Mashada.com? You must have read something like this:



This quote shows that there are some Kenyans who know the truth about their country, only a few dreamers are the ones boasting here everyday.

Sorry, this quote is posted here

If you think it's Kenyans regard themselves as everything, you are wrong. We do not claim to have a good economy, it's already evident, we even need not claim that our city Nairobi is superb, it's the fact, cause we are not the ones who nicknamed it the "city under the sun". And we do not claim to be competent education-wise and also in business, it's what we do that portrays the aspects. We also don't deny there is Kibera and other slums, it's also seen. So, Kenya, TZ, UG or any African country is known for what it is, not what it claims to be. Got that?
And i guess you know that there is never a perfect country, but there are those which are in better conditions that others, a bitter fact that some people choose not to accept, like the case here. So if you can't be able to swallow the facts, too bad.

 

[The Quonquerer]

we will see, ofcourse we will employ you at the refugee camps! who wil give you a job as a refugee? :dance:

Walisema kuwa work permit na paper zote za uhamiaji na wizara ya kazi wanazokuja nazo kutoka Nairobi, kwamba haiwapi shida. Yaani wanazitengenezea kule kule!

 

[The Quonquerer]

Nobody claimed Dar es Salaam to be Paris; we know our problems and we never pretend to be everything.

But some of you guys in Kenya pretend that you are everything; you don't want to swallow the fact that Kenya is sinking. Every day we hear the same song: Kenya is this, Kenya has that, even obscure things are terribly glorified. Come down to reality; Kenya is not everything. Your current tribal tension, which is referred to as "Demographic Pressures" is a time bomb that can explode anytime. Are you guys regulars at Mashada.com? You must have read something like this:




This quote shows that there are some Kenyans who know the truth about their country, only a few dreamers are the ones boasting here everyday.

Sorry, this quote is posted here

Bwana Kichuguu, tatizo ni kwamba after smelling danger kwao wameshaanza ku-sneak in toka siku nyingi lakini wanakuja na nationalism yao kwetu wakijua kwamba tunawababaikia au tunawahitaji. Tatizo ni kwamba majirani wote wameshaona kwetu ndio pa kukimbilia..sasa sijiui itakuwaje.? Nilikuwa Nairoberry juzi, it was my first time. Of course, kuna maghorofa marefu ya zamani and it's busy ila watu wengi wamechoka. Siyo Nairobi niliyokuwa nikiisikia toka nikiwa mdogo na tambo ninazozisikia kutoka kwao. Wanajifanya wanajua, sioni hata wanachokijua! Now we going to deal with our problems and them!

 

[The Quonquerer]

Watanzania mnababaikia sana wamanga ndiyo maana kamwe hamtaendelea. Wakenya hawana ujinga huo sana. Huwezi kulinganisha Kenya na Tanzania kimaendeleo. Kenya iko mbele sana. Kama Kenya ni failed state basi Tanzania ni division 0, grade F kabisa. Wengi tena msijishauwe humu, mkienda Nairobi ni kama mmefika Ulaya hivi. Nairobi mnaiona ni Paris ya East Africa.

Hivi humu JF tuna wendawazimu? Is this a Kenyan trying to master Tanzania's Kiswahili?

 

[RealDeal]

Bwana Kichuguu, tatizo ni kwamba after smelling danger kwao wameshaanza ku-sneak in toka siku nyingi lakini wanakuja na nationalism yao kwetu wakijua kwamba tunawababaikia au tunawahitaji. Tatizo ni kwamba majirani wote wameshaona kwetu ndio pa kukimbilia..sasa sijiui itakuwaje.? Nilikuwa Nairoberry juzi, it was my first time. Of course, kuna maghorofa marefu ya zamani and it's busy ila watu wengi wamechoka. Siyo Nairobi niliyokuwa nikiisikia toka nikiwa mdogo na tambo ninazozisikia kutoka kwao. Wanajifanya wanajua, sioni hata wanachokijua! Now we going to deal with our problems and them!

Pole sana kwa safari kaka. Nataraji usharudi Dar-in-the-slum.

 

[The Quonquerer]

Pole sana kwa safari kaka. Nataraji usharudi Dar-in-the-slum.

You need it, that's why you keep poking your noses in JF. Kwenu hatuji, nie mnasema kuzuri, si mkae huko! Mkono wa binadamu hautadondoka kamwe, kwamba nyie fisi muule. You will keep salivating.

 

[eliakeem]

Pole sana kwa safari kaka. Nataraji usharudi Dar-in-the-slum.

Teh, teh, weye layman, hatuna slums Tanzania, what we have is unplanned settlements and there is a big difference btn the two. mimi ninayekwambia ni expert in all aspects relating to land/real property or estate, i.e. from legal, economical, planning, admin/magnt., investment, appraisal etc,etc.
And if you what classes in land matters I can offer you.
The more you yap, the more you expose your ignorance.

 

[Smatta]

Bwana Kichuguu, tatizo ni kwamba after smelling danger kwao wameshaanza ku-sneak in toka siku nyingi lakini wanakuja na nationalism yao kwetu wakijua kwamba tunawababaikia au tunawahitaji. Tatizo ni kwamba majirani wote wameshaona kwetu ndio pa kukimbilia..sasa sijiui itakuwaje.? Nilikuwa Nairoberry juzi, it was my first time. Of course, kuna maghorofa marefu ya zamani and it's busy ila watu wengi wamechoka. Siyo Nairobi niliyokuwa nikiisikia toka nikiwa mdogo na tambo ninazozisikia kutoka kwao. Wanajifanya wanajua, sioni hata wanachokijua! Now we going to deal with our problems and them!

hahahahahahahaha.. Ati maghorofa mengi, yani you couldnt see past the buildings? Angalia posture za kusimama na kutembea na you compare that with Tanzanians, nyie hata watoto wadogo wana stooping posture, they drag their feet and walk aimlessly, that contrasts with Nairobi's citizens completely. Kila anayekuja huku husema kuwa Nairobi is a fast city, wewe badala ya kumake such observations waangalia maghorofa na magari. Dar in the slams tunaipatia tu garissa lodge, inachapwa fimbo. You cant knock Nairobi, najua utaongea kuhusu slums lakini unafaa ujiulize, nyinyi na diamond, uranium, gold, gas, tanzanite, now oil, mbona hamendelei, najua utasema you are catching up lakini mzee mnajienjoy, you'll never catch up. You will need our brains to formulate ways in which you can fully utilize your mineral potential, hata mkibishana aje, mnatuhitaji nasi twawanyonya, ask me I know.

 

[RealDeal]

Teh, teh, weye layman, hatuna slums Tanzania, what we have is unplanned settlements and there is a big difference btn the two. mimi ninayekwambia ni expert in all aspects relating to land/real property or estate, i.e. from legal, economical, planning, admin/magnt., investment, appraisal etc,etc.
And if you what classes in land matters I can offer you.
The more you yap, the more you expose your ignorance.

ignorance? not that jargon. for your info, tz has the worst slums, but they are not highlighted as there is not much difference with the main towns, rather, the towns are not as developed, so there would be no need of showing the slums.
As for kenya, it's the opposite; very urban but some slums in the outskirts. That's why you never hear of slums in ug, tz, chad etc etc.
But you will always hear this:

Biggest slums
1. Soweto - South Africa
2. Niger delta - Nigeria
3. Kibera - Kenya
4. Dharavi - Indian slums
5. Harlem - New York, USA.
6. East London - UK

See, no need for highlighting underdeveloped countries, only well-off countries are highlighted to give them a challenge due to the big contrast.
p.s avoid words like layman, real profs don't call anyone that.
Good Night!!

 

[Abdulhalim]

Teh, teh, weye layman, hatuna slums Tanzania, what we have is unplanned settlements and there is a big difference btn the two. mimi ninayekwambia ni expert in all aspects relating to land/real property or estate, i.e. from legal, economical, planning, admin/magnt., investment, appraisal etc,etc.
And if you what classes in land matters I can offer you.
The more you yap, the more you expose your ignorance.

Mkuu. mpumzishe huyu Mungiki, Zero Unseasoned Deal, yupo hapa ku-spread ignorance, na hana akijuacho. Ha ha ha..

 

[Koba]

Teh, teh, weye layman, hatuna slums Tanzania, what we have is unplanned settlements and there is a big difference btn the two. mimi ninayekwambia ni expert in all aspects relating to land/real property or estate, i.e. from legal, economical, planning, admin/magnt., investment, appraisal etc,etc.
And if you what classes in land matters I can offer you.
The more you yap, the more you expose your ignorance.

spin spin spin.....hizi ndio typical talking point za mafisadi na bila aibu unajiita expert(labda wa mavi) maana ndio yaliyojaa yanatiririka mitaani,no matter how you say it lakini facts hazibadiliki,and seems debate imekuwa kama league za mchangani sasa,its a waste of time debating na watu kama wewe mnaoleta ubishi tuu....kumbuka dar hakuna maji wala umeme na foleni is like armagedon,tumia expertize yako kama kweli unayo kuliko kuleta siasa zako humu za uswahilini

 

[kmdh]

Watanzania mmekosa nidhamu. Mnajua hela ya Kenya ina thamani kuliko hela ya Tanzania? Mnajua Kenya Airways ina ndege nyingi kuliko Air Tanzania? Hizi ni ishara za nchi zilizoendelea. Mnajua jeshi la Kenya lina vifaa vya kisasa? F-5, F-15 ndege za kivita Kenya wanazo. Nyie wabongo endeleeni kukosa nidhamu na kuleta kelele. Mtachapwa kama mbuzi mkizidi fyoko fyoko.

 

[Abdulhalim]

Watanzania mmekosa nidhamu. Mnajua hela ya Kenya ina thamani kuliko hela ya Tanzania? Mnajua Kenya Airways ina ndege nyingi kuliko Air Tanzania? Hizi ni ishara za nchi zilizoendelea. Mnajua jeshi la Kenya lina vifaa vya kisasa? F-5, F-15 ndege za kivita Kenya wanazo. Nyie wabongo endeleeni kukosa nidhamu na kuleta kelele. Mtachapwa kama mbuzi mkizidi fyoko fyoko.

Ni kweli Ksh ina thamani kuliko Tsh, pengine inaizidi hata ile hela ya the second biggest economic force in this Planet , Japanese Yen..GO & FIGURE Bwe he he he..

Halafu hayo masilaha, huenda kweli hatuna, lakini sisi ni ya nini? Hatuna shida nayo, tuko na serious socioeconomic issues za ku-deal nazo, sio hiyo miugomvi. We are not ***-**** Obama style kwenda kupigana na al-Shabab, BTW what happened to Migingo with ur mighty army..lol

 

[RealDeal]

BTW what happened to Migingo with ur mighty army..lol

Why don't you tell us if you think you know??

 

[Abdulhalim]

Why don't you tell us if you think you know??

..and y would i tell u? i wouldn't reduce myself to ur pettiness.

 

[Bantugbro]

Watanzania mmekosa nidhamu. Mnajua hela ya Kenya ina thamani kuliko hela ya Tanzania? Mnajua Kenya Airways ina ndege nyingi kuliko Air Tanzania? Hizi ni ishara za nchi zilizoendelea. Mnajua jeshi la Kenya lina vifaa vya kisasa? F-5, F-15 ndege za kivita Kenya wanazo. Nyie wabongo endeleeni kukosa nidhamu na kuleta kelele. Mtachapwa kama mbuzi mkizidi fyoko fyoko.

Nani kasema F-5 NA F-15 ni ndege za kisasa?.... hivi unataarifa kuwa hizo designs hazitumiki tena "katika nchi zilizoendelea"

Hizo fikra zako za kutaka kupigana kila wakati zinaonyesha ni jinsi gani huko kwenu mnavyopenda ugomvi..:biggrin1: sisi yetu macho tu kama ni vita tulipigana miaka ya sitini na sabini wakati tunalikomboa hili bara..

Nimefuatilia post zako zote nne tangu ujiunge hapa JF, zote zina-mwelekeo wa malumbano na hata kutoa vitisho na lugha za ajabu ajabu...nauliza tena hivi huko ulikotoka huwa mnafundishwa matusi na ugomvi mashuleni?:mmph:

 

[Kichuguu]

Watanzania mmekosa nidhamu. Mnajua hela ya Kenya ina thamani kuliko hela ya Tanzania? Mnajua Kenya Airways ina ndege nyingi kuliko Air Tanzania? Hizi ni ishara za nchi zilizoendelea. Mnajua jeshi la Kenya lina vifaa vya kisasa? F-5, F-15 ndege za kivita Kenya wanazo. Nyie wabongo endeleeni kukosa nidhamu na kuleta kelele. Mtachapwa kama mbuzi mkizidi fyoko fyoko.

Maneno ya namna hii hayasidii kujenga umaoja miongoni mwetu. Tumefundihswa kuwa usile na kipofu ukamgusa mkono; Amin aliwahi kugusa mkono wa vipofu wa Tanzania, na sote tunajua aliishia wapi.