Kenya-Tanzania Forum fails to strike deal on Dar work permit fee

Kenya-Tanzania Forum fails to strike deal on Dar work permit fee

IAfrika said:
The cold war in Africa iliisha, right now is about looking for for our best interest through intratrade and integration in a global competitive world.
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Our best interest ni kuangalia kwanza vipaumbele vya wananchi wetu na sio kuanza kufikiria wengine ambao hawana faida kwetu
 
IAfrika said:
Umoja/wingi - sitaki/hatutaki?
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We are "Comrades", tunapendana, tuko pamoja, hatuna Ubinafsi ndio maana tunatumia "We" Sisi, sio "I" Mimi.

Even the opinion might be expressed on a personal perspective, individual experiences that does not mean we do not have the same thing in common or share the same values, "WA"-Tanzania ni Watanzania tuu.

Tunaoneka tuna tofauti nyingi, tunapingana,tunakubaliana lakini ikifika suala la "Uzalendo", tunarudi kwenye line of duty.

Refer to "Cold War", there was never a cold war. We only refused to be used as a step stone for 2nd exodus of Colonial Masters.

Hatuwezi kuamini kama kuna Mgeni amepata restless sleep kwa ajili masilahi ya Watanzania. Yupo? Yuko wapi?

This kind of debate is not about sugar coating, its not about self praising, this is a reminder to our fellow Tanzanians.
We need to be awake, wide awake!
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ubinaadamukwanza said:
We are "Comrades", tunapendana, tuko pamoja, hatuna Ubinafsi ndio maana tunatumia "We" Sisi, sio "I" Mimi.

Even the opinion might be expressed on a personal perspective, individual experiences that does not mean we do not have the same thing in common, "WA"-Tanzania ni Watanzania tuu.

Tunaoneka tuna tofauti nyingi, tunapingana,tunakubaliana lakini ikifika suala la "Uzalendo", tunarudi kwenye line of duty.

Refer to "Cold War", there was never a cold war. We only refused to be used as a step stone for 2nd exodus of Colonial Masters.

Hatuwezi kuamini kama kuna Mgeni amepata restless sleep kwa ajili masilahi ya Watanzania. Yupo? Yuko wapi?

This kind of debate is not about sugar coating, its not about self praising, this is a reminder to our fellow Tanzanians.
We need to be awake, wide awake!
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Tehe, tehe[emoji12] [emoji12] ! ...ukweli ni ukweli tu! Huyo capitalist ana lengo lake, ndiyo maana anang'ang'ana sana na tz, si bure! ...fursa kibao tz!
 
IAfrika said:
You must have learnt the wrong lesson. The only lesson to be learnt here is shielding the integration from politicians by requiring the major decisions be taken to the people through a referendum.

Jomo Kenyatta and Charles Njonjo is hardly a a representation of the Kenyan masses.
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It goes down to the people you'll be dealing with, people of these countries are mould to believe in certain way. A Kenyan will always have a capitalist in mind "let's get rich quick", a Tanzanian will have social values in mind "if it doesn't benefit all, the deal will remain off the table". Until we have a similar education system, similar goals, similar social and economic agenda, like what you see in Europe, Canada or US, people will neither understand nor participate in an integration.
 
mwathadan said:
EAC doesn't need Tanzania in any way......tokeni am sure no one will miss you
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On the contrary, Kenya needs EAC more than any other county in EAC. In fact Kenyan government can not afford to leave EAC and risk loosing all the jobs created by being a member of the community. The door is open for Kenya to leave if they wish to do so. Brexit has shown British were not as big as they thought they were.
 
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