Kenya vs Ethiopia SGR compared Thanks to the fellow who did this!

Kenya vs Ethiopia SGR compared Thanks to the fellow who did this!

kwelko said:
the way you reason leaves a lot to be desired. Where do you get these theories and claims?? And how are you able to be negative in all you post every single minute of the day?? Don't you get tired?? Your friend bongo-live up here just took a break from negativity. You should borrow a leaf.
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bongo-live is actually pretty cool huyu geza ndio dimbidi mwenyewe ....
 
Ngong' tunnel starts
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Cant wait. This project will be the next big thing in Kenya. Expect many opportunities to come with this project. The opposition to this project is a well weaved political witch-hunt just to derail the project or if possible kill it all together just to gain political millage. Thanks to the government it has been achieved. I hope the armchair commentators will stand to be counted when it starts operating.
 
Sammuel999 said:
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This is a question that has refused to go away. Why has Ethiopia managed to build an electrified Standard Gauge Railway for less money than Kenya, whose SGR is not even electric?
The 750 km Ethiopia-Djibouti line was unveiled on Wednesday. It will link Addis Ababa to the Red Sea port city of Djibouti.
“This train will speed up the development of our country’s manufacturing industry and it will provide huge benefits to the industrial parks and modern farms that will be built in the future. It will give employment opportunities for our citizens,” Prime Minister Desalegn said at the launch ceremony

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Travelling at 120km/h, the new service will cut the journey time down from three days by road to about 12 hours.
“We’re so excited! It takes two or three days for a truck to come from Djibouti,” said Ethiopian importer Tingrit Worku. “The train could make a huge difference.”
The $3.4 billion project was built by two Chinese companies and is the first to be electrified in Sub saharan Africa out of Zimbabwe and South Africa

Compare that to phase 1 of Kenya’s Standard Gauge Railway. Its cost stands at Sh327 billion, almost the same as the Ethiopian line, but more than 100 km shorter.
That begs the questions: Has Ethiopia built an inferior line or is Kenya not getting value for money or is our money being stolen?
The answers are in the details.
First and foremost, it’s good to note that electric does not always mean superfast. The Ethiopian line is only 40km/h faster than the Kenyan line.
Furthermore, Ethiopia’s electricity generation is about to explode with the construction of the 6,000mw Grand Renaissance Dam , which will give the train service stable power supply. (Kenya Power comes to mind)
One of the main reason why the Kenyan line is expensive is the massive bridges some stretching kilometres. Unlike the iron fist government in Ethiopia, Kenya has to listen to all voices which led to allowances for wild animals in Tsavo and Nairobi National Park. These bridges have contributed a big deal to the final cost.

Tsavo Bridge
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Mombasa Super Bridge

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Also in Ethiopia, the government likes your land, the government takes your land. Here in Kenya, we see any government project as an opportunity to hike the land price to make a killing.
There is also the issue of Railway stations.

Despite being 100 km shorter, Kenya is building 33 stations while Ethiopia is only building 18.

Information from Ethiopia is hard to come by, but we can assume that their main stations are not as big as what is been constructed in Nairobi or Mombasa.

Addis Ababa Station

This is Ethiopias Biggest Train station [emoji50][emoji50]

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As for Kenya


MOMBASA TRAIN STATION IS LARGER THAN ANY OTHER ETHIOPIAN STATIONS


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Embakasi Train station Nairobi

Under construction
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Nairobi South Train Station

Largest train station in East and Central africa
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And others like voi etc!!

There is also the locomotives. Kenya is buying more than double what Ethiopia has. Ethiopia will have 3 passenger trains and 32 freight trains to put it in plain language.

One of the 3 electric passenger train on the Addis-Djibouti line
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Kenya on the other hand is buying 56 diesel locomotives to power 40 passenger coaches and 1620 freight wagons.
A diesel locomotive
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A passenger coach
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The average Chinese locomotive pulls between 8 and 20 passenger coaches, so we can calculate that Kenya’s SGR will have either 3 or 4 passenger trains (Almost same as Ethiopia).
But our freight trains will be about 50, or at least 18 more than Ethiopia.
Finally, there’s another little mentioned fact that makes Kenya’s SGR superior – double stack wagons. Unlike the Ethiopian trains, Kenyan freight train will be able to carry twice as many containers by stacking one on top of the other.
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Kwanini serikali isijengee Reli kutumia Mkopo kutoka China ? Kutumia fedha za walipa kodi ni kuzidi kuleta umasikini kwani fedha hizo zingeelekezwa kwenye miradi minigine hapa nchini. Kwa kipindi kifupi Ethiopia Na Kenya wamejengewa reli za kisasa Na zimeanza kazi rasmi
 
First get facts right Ethiopia's SGR is over 200 km longer than Kenya's! And has a lot of tunnels n bridges too! Plus apart from aesthetics, I can't see the difference in size of those stations from Kenya's! In logistic construction what matters most is how to transport goods from one point to another reliably n at lowest cost n shortest time! Kenya has failed that criteria. The bottom line fact is KENYA has been dupped n RAO promised to prosecute.
 
Geza Ulole said:
Firsr get facts right Ethiopia's SGR is over 200 km longer than Kenya's! And has a lot of tunnels n bridges too! Plus apart from aesthetics, I can't see the difference in size of those stations from Kenya's! In logistic construction what matters most is how to transport goods from one point to another reliably n at lowest cost n shortest time! Kenya has failed that criteria. The bottom line fact is KENYA has been dupped n RAO promised to prosecute.
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this is opposed to what you have been saying all along...you have been saying that our 'vyuma chakavu' mitungi ya chang'aa has made our rail a white elephant right? but here you say that what matters is the efficiency and low cost and not aesthetics...mbona unajichanganya? ama ni kwa chuki ya wakenya tu...
 
Geza Ulole said:
Firsr get facts right Ethiopia's SGR is over 200 km longer than Kenya's! And has a lot of tunnels n bridges too! Plus apart from aesthetics, I can't see the difference in size of those stations from Kenya's! In logistic construction what matters most is how to transport goods from one point to another reliably n at lowest cost n shortest time! Kenya has failed that criteria. The bottom line fact is KENYA has been dupped n RAO promised to prosecute.
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Ooh its not white Elephant any more???? Hehehe get ur shit together ur everywhere

Secondly

Nairobi Naivasha 150km underground is already 13% complete with a funding of 1.5bn$ already at their disposal!!

Thirdly
Naivasha Kisumu Malaba some
722km is already Funded My fren!!!!! 3.94bn$ funding is already There ....so GTFO ...........

Nionyeshe inland port Ethiopia
Nionyeshe 34 stations Ethiopia

Already Their Rail has Closed the first class Coaches juu hakuna customers ...smh...

Jitoe baba....

Hapa Kenya Tuko kwingine ....
 
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