Kenya wanavyoionea Somalia na kuinyonya kama Wakoloni

Kenya wanavyoionea Somalia na kuinyonya kama Wakoloni

Ummayed said:
Kama loves for enemies anti baraka wasingeua watu central African na Netanyahu asingeua Palestine naona kipere kinakuwasha
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Huyo Netanyahu ni mkristo? mbona wewe ni kilaza sana? au hiyo bongo yako haifanyi kazi? mbona unataka uichukulie Marekani kama nchi ya kikristo una akili kweli wewe? bora hata uongeongelea EU maana inajilikana historia yao na vita vya msalaba ila sio Marekani
 
Mkirindi said:
99% of the somali investment are owned by Somalis who came from somalia, Period.

Ndugu wala usidanganyike. Garisa lodge imeanzishwa na wao, nyumba nyingi za eastleigh zilikuwa za wasomali wa kabila la Isaac, ambao asili yao ni somaliland, wao wametomekea ulaya na canada, nyumba zao zimenunuliwa na Hawiya na Darood kutoka ex Italian Somalia.

Please dont dream, all of Nairobi, Mombasa na Nakuru sasa, pesa ni za wakutokea somalia.
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And what investments in particular?
 
Mkirindi said:
en.wikipedia.org

Somalis in Kenya - Wikipedia

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How Northern Frontier District was carved out

Part of present day north eastern was in Somalia before Kenya became a free state.
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How Northern Frontier District was carved out

Thursday, September 27, 2018 21:12

Part of present day north eastern was in Somalia before Kenya became a free state.
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Boss naona pia wewe unajifanya mjuaji hahaa.......Tulia utapata dawa yako
 
Sherlock said:
Boss naona pia wewe unajifanya mjuaji hahaa.......Tulia utapata dawa yako
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Ndugu sijifanyi mjuaji, bali ninachangia uzi, na pia tunabadilishana historia na ukweli ulivyo. Tunapeana somo tuu ndugu. Kama hiyo dawa itaniongezea elimu, nitaipokea kwa mikono miwili
 
Sherlock said:
What I meant is that Christianity and Judaism existed long before Islam.

Islam came around 650AD and the Quran was written over a period of 23 yrs by one man.
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Nimekuelewa, nilikua nakushangaa hapo kwa miaka 23, sasa ungeiweka kwa kiswahili maana mwenzio hatakuelewa na atakubishia hadi alfajiri.
Ni kwamba kitabu cha quran kiliandikwa kwa muda wa miaka 23, sio kwamba umri wa uislamu ni 23, sijui kama inaeleweka hii.
Anyway huu ubishani wa dini tumebishana humu kwa muda mrefu hadi tukachokana wenyewe maana huwa hauna mwisho, Mzungu na Mwarabu walituletea hizi dini ila sisi tukapagawa zaidi kuwazidi hata waliotuletea.
Unakuta mtu yupo radhi kumkata mwenzie kichwa kisa dini ya kuletewa, huyo huyo mtu kwa umsakini wake hajawahi hata kutoka kitaa ili kupata exposure ya wanavyoishi waliomletea hiyo dini.
 
Ummayed said:
Umeropoka kuna nchi iliyo tulivu kam suudia au kuna taifa lililo na amani kam Qatar au Falme za kiarabu ama Oman ulishawahi sikia vta ktk hayo mataifa.
Kingine nyie wakristo ndio chanzo cha uharibifu wa amani Kwan nan kaiharibu Iraq,nan anaiharibu Palestine,nan ameiharibu libya,nan anaejaribu kuiharibu iran toka kipind kile km sio marekan kafir mwenzenu trump na wenzake obama na bush waliopita.
Makundi ya kigaid ni American regimes.km Isis inayoiharibu syria iran kaweka wanamgambo mmarekani anamshurutisha atoe ili yeye afanye yake kiurahisi.Na km hujui alshabaab wanachopinga wao Somalia kujihusisha na nchi za kikafir km marekan ndio maana wakataka wao waongoze na kujaribu kufanya mapinduzi.
Au nikuulize wale anti baraka walioharibu aman central African republic kwa kuwaua waislam na kuwabaka nyumba hadi nyumba wale si wakristo kwan waislam.
Mikristo mm naichukiaga bcuz ndio chanzo cha uharibifu wa amani km anavyofanya Netanyahu na Trump kwa sasa na kama alivyofanya Obama na Bush kwa kupandikiza makund na ku brainwash waumin wa kiislam wauane yey akiiba mali asili.
Nakuhofia kafir kuliko Muslim mwenzangu huwez sema sisi tunaharibu aman ilhal nyie ndio chanzo.
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Kafir namba moja Duniani pengine na akhera ni yule Muhammad aliyewa brainwash waislamu mpaka DNA zimekaa kuuanauana tu. Kwa ufupi waislamu na Uislamu ndio makafir wa halisi na chanzo Cha uhalibifu wa Amani Duniani ndio maana kila mkimletea ungese wenu Trump anawatwanga shamba za vichwa tu maana hamkuumbwa na Akili za kutambua chochote. Nikionaga jamaa mnavyouana huwa napata furaha Sana maana sio lengo la Mungu kbs Dunia hii ikaliwe na matakataka Kama nyie
 
We inawezekana mtoto haram ndio maana mgumu kuelewa.nataka unijibu maswali haya km una akili timam na ukishindwa ukalishe matako chini.
1)Libya ilimkosea nn Obama mpk akaiharibu.?
2)Syria ilimkosea nini Obama na Trump mpk wanaiharibu.?
3)Iran haikuwahi kuivamia America Bush kilimpeleka nini Iran na kuanzisha vita vya miaka nane?
4)Anti baraka kundi la kikristo la central African republic wamekosea nn na waislam mpk wakawa wanawaua nyumba hadi nyumba?
5)Palestine imemkosea nn Netanyahu mpk anawaua?
6)kimempata kipi Trump kwenda kupora milima ya syria ya gollan ilhali sio yao?
Kama wewe ni mtoto legitimate nijibu haya kwa ufasaha ukishindwa wewe ni bastard ama illigitimate son maana unaropoka.
Betoratekha said:
Kafir namba moja Duniani pengine na akhera ni yule Muhammad aliyewa brainwash waislamu mpaka DNA zimekaa kuuanauana tu. Kwa ufupi waislamu na Uislamu ndio makafir wa halisi na chanzo Cha uhalibifu wa Amani Duniani ndio maana kila mkimletea ungese wenu Trump anawatwanga shamba za vichwa tu maana hamkuumbwa na Akili za kutambua chochote. Nikionaga jamaa mnavyouana huwa napata furaha Sana maana sio lengo la Mungu kbs Dunia hii ikaliwe na matakataka Kama nyie
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Mkirindi said:
99% of the somali investment are owned by Somalis who came from somalia, Period.

Ndugu wala usidanganyike. Garisa lodge imeanzishwa na wao, nyumba nyingi za eastleigh zilikuwa za wasomali wa kabila la Isaac, ambao asili yao ni somaliland, wao wametomekea ulaya na canada, nyumba zao zimenunuliwa na Hawiya na Darood kutoka ex Italian Somalia.

Please dont dream, all of Nairobi, Mombasa na Nakuru sasa, pesa ni za wakutokea somalia.
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Hallucinating is free. You keep writing all this bs from your Mogadishu bedsitter.

The Somali in Kenya do not control even 1% of the economy.

Kwanza hio Eastleigh unaongea kuhusu, we want it done away with. It consists of 100% imported goods. When Kenya is moving towards manufacturing its own clothes, Somali are all over selling cheap, low quality imported things.
There is not a single Somali in manufacturing.

The only minority group in Kenya that has contributed more than its fair share is the Indians. They own many factories in Kenya.

Wasomali ni kusumbua tu.
 
kennedy0000 said:
Hallucinating is free. You keep writing all this bs from your Mogadishu bedsitter.

The Somali in Kenya do not control even 1% of the economy.

Kwanza hio Eastleigh unaongea kuhusu, we want it done away with. It consists of 100% imported goods. When Kenya is moving towards manufacturing its own clothes, Somali are all over selling cheap, low quality imported things.
There is not a single Somali in manufacturing.

The only minority group in Kenya that has contributed more than its fair share is the Indians. They own many factories in Kenya.

Wasomali ni kusumbua tu.
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Ndugu Keneddy, umechanganta utumwa na ujinga, hebu soma vizuri bandiko langu, ukishaelewa nilichozungumzia unaweza kujibu hoja. Lakini ukikurupuka like the house boy of the mzungu or muhindi you work for, we wont be able to have a good discussion.

Hebu kavue hiyo uniform ya house boy, alufu uje tujadiliane kama wazalendo.

Kwa hiki kiswahili changu, hivyo kweli mie niko mogadishi, kiswahili changu ni cha wahenga wa Mogadishu?

Pili sikuambia kuwa wasomali wana constitute % ngapi ya biasharavya kenya, i told you rhat they run 98% 0ff the business eastleigh.

Wasomali waende wapi na wameshanunua kenya. Ndugu yangu inasikitisha wanasiasa wa kiafrika wanafika bei kirahisi.
 
Mkirindi said:
Ndugu Keneddy, umechanganta utumwa na ujinga, hebu soma vizuri bandiko langu, ukishaelewa nilichozungumzia unaweza kujibu hoja. Lakini ukikurupuka like the house boy of the mzungu or muhindi you work for, we wont be able to have a good discussion.

Hebu kavue hiyo uniform ya house boy, alufu uje tujadiliane kama wazalendo.

Kwa hiki kiswahili changu, hivyo kweli mie niko mogadishi, kiswahili changu ni cha wahenga wa Mogadishu?

Pili sikuambia kuwa wasomali wana constitute % ngapi ya biasharavya kenya, i told you rhat they run 98% 0ff the business eastleigh.

Wasomali waende wapi na wameshanunua kenya. Ndugu yangu inasikitisha wanasiasa wa kiafrika wanafika bei kirahisi.
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Hao wote wa Eastleigh ni Wakenya - wasomali.
Wale wa kutoka Somalia ni marefugee wa msaada.
 
Tanganyika wanavyoionea Zanzibar na kuifanya koloni lakudumu
 
Ummayed said:
Una uhakika upi
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Ndugu Immayed, Ramadhan Mubarak. Kwanza usi bishane na watu wasiokuwa na uzalendo hata kidogo. Tanzania tunajivungia kuwa nchi isiyo na ukabila , matabaka na ulaji wa viongozi wetu unaheshima ukiulinganisha na wakenya.

Although siungi mkono ufisadi na ninauchukia na kuogopa kama ukoma.

Inashangaza wakenya waseme tinaidhalilisha Zanzibar, wao hawaoni walichowafanya wakikuyu in Naikuru na huko Rift Valley wakati wa uchaguzi, watu wamefukuzwa kwenye makazi yao ya maisha.
 
Mkirindi said:
Ndugu Keneddy, umechanganta utumwa na ujinga, hebu soma vizuri bandiko langu, ukishaelewa nilichozungumzia unaweza kujibu hoja. Lakini ukikurupuka like the house boy of the mzungu or muhindi you work for, we wont be able to have a good discussion.

Hebu kavue hiyo uniform ya house boy, alufu uje tujadiliane kama wazalendo.

Kwa hiki kiswahili changu, hivyo kweli mie niko mogadishi, kiswahili changu ni cha wahenga wa Mogadishu?

Pili sikuambia kuwa wasomali wana constitute % ngapi ya biasharavya kenya, i told you rhat they run 98% 0ff the business eastleigh.

Wasomali waende wapi na wameshanunua kenya. Ndugu yangu inasikitisha wanasiasa wa kiafrika wanafika bei kirahisi.
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Mkirindi said:
Ndugu Keneddy, umechanganta utumwa na ujinga, hebu soma vizuri bandiko langu, ukishaelewa nilichozungumzia unaweza kujibu hoja. Lakini ukikurupuka like the house boy of the mzungu or muhindi you work for, we wont be able to have a good discussion.

Hebu kavue hiyo uniform ya house boy, alufu uje tujadiliane kama wazalendo.

Kwa hiki kiswahili changu, hivyo kweli mie niko mogadishi, kiswahili chau ni cha wahenga wa Mogadishu?

Pili sikuambia kuwa wasomali wana constitute % ngapi ya biasharavya kenya, i told you rhat they run 98% 0ff the business eastleigh.

Wasomali waende wapi na wameshanunua kenya. Ndugu yangu inasikitisha wanasiasa wa kiafrika wanafika bei kirahisi.
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Wamenunua Kenya kivipi ?...haha
Nitajaribu kujieleza kwa kiswahili ili unielewe.
Ukisoma historia ya Nairobi utajua Kwamba wasomali wamekuwepo Eastleigh kutoka enzi za wakoloni.
Mitaa ya parklands na Pangani imekuwa makazi ya Wahindi tangu enzi zile
Mitaa mingineyo Kama lavington ,karen na upperhill ilikuwa ni makazi ya wazungu .

Waafrika hasaa wakikuyu hawakuruhusiwa kufanya biashara Nairobi miaka ya Emergency.1952_1960 .Pia hawakuruhusiwa kukuza mimea kama vile kahawa (cash crops)

baada ya 1960 waafrika waliruhusiwa kuingia Nairobi ila kuna maeneo ambayo walitengewa kufanyia biashara .Maeneo ya River road,Kirinyaga Road ,Ngara e.t.c ila hawakuruhusiwa kupita Moi Avenue leo hi ukienda maeneo hayo utapata biashara nyingi tu za waafrika.

Ukienda Eastleigh utapata Wasomali
Ukitembelea maeneo ya parklands utapata Wahindi.
Maeneo ya Karen utapata Wazungu wengi tu.
 
Sherlock said:
Wamenunua Kenya kivipi ?...haha
Nitajaribu kujieleza kwa kiswahili ili unielewe.
Ukisoma historia ya Nairobi utajua Kwamba wasomali wamekuwepo Eastleigh kutoka enzi za wakoloni.
Mitaa ya parklands na Pangani imekuwa makazi ya Wahindi tangu enzi zile
Mitaa mingineyo Kama lavington ,karen na upperhill ilikuwa ni makazi ya wazungu .

Waafrika hasaa wakikuyu hawakuruhusiwa kufanya biashara Nairobi miaka ya Emergency.1952_1960 .Pia hawakuruhusiwa kukuza mimea kama vile kahawa (cash crops)

baada ya 1960 waafrika waliruhusiwa kuingia Nairobi ila kuna maeneo ambayo walitengewa kufanyia biashara .Maeneo ya River road,Kirinyaga Road ,Ngara e.t.c ila hawakuruhusiwa kupita Moi Avenue leo hi ukienda maeneo hayo utapata biashara nyingi tu za waafrika.

Ukienda Eastleigh utapata Wasomali
Ukitembelea maeneo ya parklands utapata Wahindi.
Maeneo ya Karen utapata Wazungu wengi tu.
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Nakushukuru kwa elimu nzuri na yenye tija. Kama ulivyoeleza, wasomali pia walipewa eneo la ngong na walikuwa wafugaji. The Somalis waliokuwa sehemu hizo za eastleigh, ngong - NRB, na Kambi ya wasomali Nakuru na Naivasha, na hata ardhi ya Isiolo walikuwa ni wasomali waliotokea somaliland. Wakati huo both somaliland, Kenya,Tanzania na Uganda zilikuwa chini ya himaya ya muingereza.

Tena Isiolo hao wasomali walipewa title deed ya hilo eneo.

Nakuwekea links zitakusaidia kujua historia:

 
Mimi mwenyewe nimetembea North Eastern province .
Nakusema kweli hata baada ya Ugatuzi hawa jamaa wako Nyuma Sana kimaendeleo Ukilinganisha na maeneo
Mengine ya Kenya.
Kwa mfano wabunge wao huendeleza shughuli zao kutoka Eastleigh Magavana wao pia ofisi zao ziko Eastleigh ilhali hawa jamaa wanapata mgao wa fedha kutoka serekali kuu.
Uchochole ulioko huko niwakupindukia.Utashangaa mwenyewe.

ila Msomali akipata duka eastleigh ama Luthuli avenue na afanye biashara ya kuuza Nguo ama vifaa vya Electroniki kama vile simu anaonekana Tajiri anaye miliki uchumi wakenya.Ilihali biashara Kama hizo zinaendelea miji mingineyo Kenya Kama vile Thika, Eldoret kisii .e.t.c

biashara kubwa na tajika Kenya hasa humilikiwa na wakikuyu.

biashara ninazozijua za Wasomali ni Hass petroleum na First community Bank
Kama Kuna zingine tajika labda unaeza nieleza.

Biashara za wakikuyu na waafrika wengine ni nyingi tu .hata zimenea Mpaka Uganda na Tanzania na mataifa mengi barani .

Watu wengi hupotozwa na conspiracy theories zinazo andikwa na Wasomali kutoka Somalia .lakini tunaelewa the motive behind the conspiracy theories.
 
Mkirindi said:
Nakushukuru kwa elimu nzuri na yenye tija. Kama ulivyoeleza, wasomali pia walipewa eneo la ngong na walikuwa wafugaji. The Somalis waliokuwa sehemu hizo za eastleigh, ngong - NRB, na Kambi ya wasomali Nakuru na Naivasha, na hata ardhi ya Isiolo walikuwa ni wasomali waliotokea somaliland. Wakati huo both somaliland, Kenya,Tanzania na Uganda zilikuwa chini ya himaya ya muingereza.

Tena Isiolo hao wasomali walipewa title deed ya hilo eneo.

Nakuwekea links zitakusaidia kujua historia:

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Hata baada mwafrika kukandamizwa na Msomali kupewa kipaumbele na serekali ya mkoloni...Msomali Bado ako Nyuma Sana kimaendeleo. Ukitembelea miji yao kama vile wajir ,Mandera ,Elwak ,Garissa ...utagundua kuwa hawa jamaa wanaishi utopian dream
Tembelea miji Kama vile Thika,Nyeri ,kisii Nakuru ,Muranga, Naivasha Nanyuki e.t.c na utapata wako mbele Sana Ukilinganisha na Wasomali.
 
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