Kenya yajiondoa kwenye mpango wa kuunganisha masoko ya hisa ya Afrika Mashariki

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Kenya has opted out of the East African Capital Markets Integration (CMI) project that is to be effected later this year in a bid to make trading in shares across the region quicker and cheaper.
Kenya pulled out of the CMI project which is to be launched in September 2018.

WHAT IS THE CMI?
It is a software meant to link the trading platforms of the Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE), Uganda Securities Exchange (USE), Dar es Salaam Securities Exchange (DSE) and Rwanda Stock Exchange so that they run as a single market in real time. Once connected, investors can buy and sell shares of companies listed in different EAC countries without necessarily going through different brokers.

MY TAKE:
PROTECTIONISM AT ITS RAWEST FORM!
This is another big blow to the integration of the EAC financial sector, a key prerequisite for the monetary union. I say we put pressures on this thomerfucks waache cherry-picking that is not how integration works. You lose some you gain some!

 

[GoPPiii.]

Eleza vizuri aissee

 

[mshumbue-soi]

Je haitajiunganisha na Tanzania ya viwanda ???kama majirani ??

 

[Geza Ulole]

Kwa jinsi Makampuni ya Kenya yanavyofilisika one can guess which stock exchange will be a hot cake in detrimental to NSE?

 

[mwathadan]

Kwa jinsi Makampuni ya Kenya yanavyofilisika one can guess which stock exchange will be a hot cake in detrimental to NSE?

Sasa hiyo yenyu ata mnaiita stock exchange??? Mkae ligi yenyu

 

[Cicero]

Kwa jinsi Makampuni ya Kenya yanavyofilisika one can guess which stock exchange will be a hot cake in detrimental to NSE?

Nyang'aus zinaogopa competition. Zijinga sana. Wanajua wakifungua tu kutakuwa na capital flight maana huku kwetu kila mtu anataka kuwekeza.

 

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Nyang'aus zinaogopa competition. Zijinga sana. Wanajua wakifungua tu kutakuwa na capital flight maana huku kwetu kila mtu anataka kuwekeza.

Nimeshangaa sana wabongo sasa hivi wamekuwa active kweli. Humwambii kitu, vijana wadogo sana wanafanya investment za kufa mtu. Wabongo wamechangamka sana kwa sasa.

 

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Sasa hiyo yenyu ata mnaiita stock exchange??? Mkae ligi yenyu

Hujaelewa ni hivi, masoko yakifunguliwa, wakenya wengi wenye hela zao watakuja kuwekeza Tanzania. Em angalia sasaiv pamoja na vikwazo vyote tulivyowawekea ila bado mnatrip kuja huku.
Huku kunaitwa MTAKUJA republic nchi ya maziwa na asali haha!

 

[Medicci]

Kenya has opted out of the East African Capital Markets Integration (CMI) project that is to be effected later this year in a bid to make trading in shares across the region quicker and cheaper.
Kenya pulled out of the CMI project which is to be launched in September 2018.

WHAT IS THE CMI?
It is a software meant to link the trading platforms of the Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE), Uganda Securities Exchange (USE), Dar es Salaam Securities Exchange (DSE) and Rwanda Stock Exchange so that they run as a single market in real time. Once connected, investors can buy and sell shares of companies listed in different EAC countries without necessarily going through different brokers.

MY TAKE:
PROTECTIONISM AT ITS RAWEST FORM!
This is another big blow to the integration of the EAC financial sector, a key prerequisite for the monetary union. I say we put pressures on this thomerfucks waache cherry-picking that is not how integration works. You lose some you gain some!

Nafikiri wanaona washirika wao sio trustworthy, au wao wamefika mbali kwenye hiyo sector so imtergration itawarudisha nyuma.
Ila kikubwa zaidi ni nchi washirika kama Tz, Rwanda sio wa kuaminika, hata private sector kwenye hzo nchi tajwa zinapumulia machine.
Ni risk ambayo hawawezi kuafford

 

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Nafikiri wanaona washirika wao sio trustworthy, au wao wamefika mbali kwenye hiyo sector so imtergration itawarudisha nyuma.
Ila kikubwa zaidi ni nchi washirika kama Tz, Rwanda sio wa kuaminika, hata private sector kwenye hzo nchi tajwa zinapumulia machine.
Ni risk ambayo hawawezi kuafford

I don't see how this is a risk for Kenya. Wao si ndo wanajitia wana hela za uwekezaji? Itakuwa wanaogopa capital flight, kwamba wakifungua outflow ya hela itazidi inflow.
But then.....hiyo ndo integration. Mambo mangapi Tanzania tumesacrifice? Kwa mfano kwenye hiyo sarafu ya pamoja. Nahisi TZ na UG ndo zitakazoumia sana maana shilingi zao ni of much lower value.

 

[Medicci]

I don't see how this is a risk for Kenya. Wao si ndo wanajitia wana hela za uwekezaji? Itakuwa wanaogopa capital flight, kwamba wakifungua outflow ya hela itazidi inflow.
But then.....hiyo ndo integration. Mambo mangapi Tanzania tumesacrifice? Kwa mfano kwenye hiyo sarafu ya pamoja. Nahisi TZ na UG ndo zitakazoumia sana maana shilingi zao ni of much lower value.

On the face of it tutatoa arguments nyingi sana some will be valid some invalid lakini deep down such decision kuna siri nyingi sana.
Na kwa ujumla Rwanda na Tanzania are not trustworthy right now sababu ya trend ya maamuzi ya viongozi wao and the unholy duo of Tanzania and Rwanda

 

[joto la jiwe]

On the face of it tutatoa arguments nyingi sana some will be valid some invalid lakini deep down such decision kuna siri nyingi sana.
Na kwa ujumla Rwanda na Tanzania are not trustworthy right now sababu ya trend ya maamuzi ya viongozi wao and the unholy duo of Tanzania and Rwanda

Mbona unachanganya mambo?, hivi vitu havina uhusiano wowote ule, labda kwa sababu yametokea kwa wakati mmoja ndiyo unadhani yanahusiana, sio hivyo hata kidogo, sasa kama Kenya itafikiria kama wewe unavyofikiria, then itabaki alone, kwa sababu Uganda ilibadilisha route ya pipeline, Rwanda inabadilishe reli, inaonekana all EA countries are not trust worthy according to you, then Kenya will be alone.

 

[MK254]

Siku nyingine uwe unaleta habari kama ilivyo halafu tenganisha na povu zako, jifunze jinsi ya kutumia online forums. Usikurupuke kutuwekea povu na hisia zako halafu unatunyima fursa ya kujisomea taarifa yote nzima, huu mtandao wa kijamii una vichwa vingi vinavyoweza kudadavua taarifa.

Kenya raised issues with the procurement of this software, due diligence and processes were ignored.
Halafu jamaa wamekuja wameunganisha unganisha software na la kushangaza hamna stakeholder hata mmoja aliyeifanyia test, hata hiyo Tanzania hamjafanyia software test na tayari mumeanzisha kiherehere cha kutaka kuanza kutumia kabla ya kufanya test, nilishasema mara nyingi nyie ni watu wa kuliwa tu.

Kwenye hizo habari umekwepa tactically hizi sentensi "delivery and installation was done within schedule but the partner bourses have not yet tested it."

Kenya pulled out of the CMI project in 2015, citing irregularities in the $3.3 million tendering process

Naomba nikutaarifu kwamba miradi ya financial software of this magnitude huwa haziunganishwi unganishwi kiholela kama mlivyozoea kufanya miradi ingine kwenu huko.
Am a software engineer, with years of experience in large scale implementations, and I can tell you for a fact, sofware like this requires thorough User Acceptance Tests (UAT) done to everyone's satisfaction.

Taarifa kamili ziko huku Why Kenya opted out of EAC project to link stock markets

 

[Cicero]

Siku nyingine uwe unaleta habari kama ilivyo halafu tenganisha na povu zako, jifunze jinsi ya kutumia online forums. Usikurupuke kutuwekea povu na hisia zako halafu unatunyima fursa ya kujisomea taarifa yote nzima, huu mtandao wa kijamii una vichwa vingi vinavyoweza kudadavua taarifa.

Kenya raised issues with the procurement of this software, due diligence and processes were ignored.
Halafu jamaa wamekuja wameunganisha unganisha software na la kushangaza hamna stakeholder hata mmoja aliyeifanyia test, hata hiyo Tanzania hamjafanyia software test na tayari mumeanzisha kiherehere cha kutaka kuanza kutumia kabla ya kufanya test, nilishasema mara nyingi nyie ni watu wa kuliwa tu.

Kwenye hizo habari umekwepa tactically hizi sentensi "delivery and installation was done within schedule but the partner bourses have not yet tested it."

Kenya pulled out of the CMI project in 2015, citing irregularities in the $3.3 million tendering process

Naomba nikutaarifu kwamba miradi ya financial software of this magnitude huwa haziunganishwi unganishwi kiholela kama mlivyozoea kufanya miradi ingine kwenu huko.
Am a software engineer, with years of experience in large scale implementations, and I can tell you for a fact, sofware like this requires thorough User Acceptance Tests (UAT) done to everyone's satisfaction.

Taarifa kamili ziko huku Why Kenya opted out of EAC project to link stock markets

Is it possible kwamba TZ, UG na RW plus the EAC secretariat wote wameboogie? Au Kenya tu mna agenda zenu za kijinga? Hapo kuna kitu nyuma ya pazia hiyo ya software ni excuse tu.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Is it possible kwamba TZ, UG na RW plus the EAC secretariat wote wameboogie? Au Kenya tu mna agenda zenu za kijinga? Hapo kuna kitu nyuma ya pazia hiyo ya software ni excuse tu.

Ngoja tuone katika hili huenda Kenya ikawa ipo sawa, ila kwa historia inavyotuambia, maamuzi mengi ya Kenya ni maamuzi ya hovyo, Kenya uwezo wao wa kufikia maamuzi ni the worst in EAC, mfano; EPA, kupeleka KDF Somalia, kujitoa katika mkataba wa kupiga marufuku used clothes, Uamuzi wa kusafirisha mafuta ghafi kwa barabara, kuchukua mkopo ili kulipia mkopo, the list is endless.

 

[MK254]

Is it possible kwamba TZ, UG na RW plus the EAC secretariat wote wameboogie? Au Kenya tu mna agenda zenu za kijinga? Hapo kuna kitu nyuma ya pazia hiyo ya software ni excuse tu.

Kitu cha nyuma ya pazia labda utuambie wewe, lakini sisi tunajaadili taarifa kama zilizvyo, taarifa zinasema wazi kwamba hamna bourse hata moja imefanya majaribio ya mfumo, na tayari wanataka kwenda live.
Kaka mifumo haitupwi tupwi hewani tu, kuna robust processes huwa involved kishenzi, kwanza mifumo ya hela, kabla hamjawaza kubonyeza kitufe cha 'Go live', lazima muumize akili kwa hali na mali.

 

[TEMLO DA VINCA]

On the face of it tutatoa arguments nyingi sana some will be valid some invalid lakini deep down such decision kuna siri nyingi sana.
Na kwa ujumla Rwanda na Tanzania are not trustworthy right now sababu ya trend ya maamuzi ya viongozi wao and the unholy duo of Tanzania and Rwanda

Unholy duo tena mzeee mbona unatupa maneno makali hahahahah

 

[Medicci]

Unholy duo tena mzeee mbona unatupa maneno makali hahahahah

Haha usione viongozi wanachekeana kwenye ulimwengu wa intelligensia mengi yamejificha na wanatendana kweli

 

[TEMLO DA VINCA]

Haha usione viongozi wanachekeana kwenye ulimwengu wa intelligensia mengi yamejificha na wanatendana kweli

Hilo tunalijua sana anko bt hatuwezi weka vitu personal kiasi cha kushindwa kufanya hata deal za maendeleo...hayo ya intelijensia wanamalizanaga huko huko nyuma ya pazia so we know what we do..

 

[Medicci]

Hilo tunalijua sana anko bt hatuwezi weka vitu personal kiasi cha kushindwa kufanya hata deal za maendeleo...hayo ya intelijensia wanamalizanaga huko huko nyuma ya pazia so we know what we do..

Hapana jamii ya intellijensia haihusiki kwenye maswala ya kisiasa tu kama tunavyofaham.
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