Kenyan AG wants Uhuru, Muthaura cases moved to Arusha

[Ab-Titchaz]

AG wants Uhuru, Muthaura cases moved to Arusha

Attorney General Githu Muigai. Photo/FILE NATION
By BERNARD NAMUNANE bnamunane@ke.nationmedia.com
Posted Saturday, January 12 2013 at 00:30

In Summary

• Githu writes to ICC to request chance to make submissions in support of request to move trials to an East African court

The government now wants to be enjoined in a bid by two of the four ICC suspects to transfer their trials to the East African Court of Justice.

Describing the application by Mr Uhuru Kenyatta and Mr Francis Muthaura as an "important matter", the government denied accusations by Prosecutor Fatou Bensouda that Kenya has refused to cooperate with the ICC.

On Friday, Attorney-General Githu Muigai wrote to three judges who form the presidency of the ICC seeking an invitation to make submissions.

"The Government of Kenya's attention has been drawn to a request file by one of the parties in the Kenya cases requesting a change of venue for trial to Arusha, Tanzania. Given the importance of this matter, the government requests that at the appropriate time it be invited to make representations on the issue," wrote Prof Muigai.

The ICC presidency is made up of Judge Sang-Hyun Song (president), Judge Sanji Monageng (first vice-president) and Judge Cuno Tarfusser (second vice-president).

In June last year, lawyers for Mr Kenyatta and Mr Muthaura requested the ICC presidency to shift their trial for crimes against humanity stemming from 2007/08 post-election violence to the Arusha court. The ICC rejected the request.

Prof Muigai's two letters dated January 11, 2013 were a response to the accusations Ms Bensouda directed at the government when she released names of her witnesses and evidence against the suspects in the run up to the hearings set to begin in April.

Ms Bensouda also revealed she might be forced to seek assistance of foreign countries to compel Kenya to give the court access to government officials and security agents who were in charge of post-election violence hotspots.

In her submissions, she accused the government of failing to cooperate with the ICC by not giving access to PCs and police chiefs who were in charge of areas that bore the brunt of the post-poll chaos.

Consequently, she told the trial judges that she might amend her list of witnesses and evidence against the four suspects in future if the government agreed to give her access to the officers.

Sources from the legal teams of the suspects said Ms Bensouda could approach the US, Britain, USaid, the Danish Development Agency and the Kenya Red Cross, who were involved during the post-election violence.

In his reply, Prof Muigai stated that the government was willing to cooperate with the ICC as required of a state party.

"We wish to once again reiterate the government's willingness to compliment the work of the ICC and to re-affirm our commitment to our obligations under the Rome Statute," he said.

He said provincial commissioner and provincial police officers who served in election violence hotspots had obtained a High Court order blocking the ICC from interviewing them.

"That order is in force until the matter is heard and determined and that is yet to occur," he said. (READ: ICC accuses Kenya of hiding evidence)


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[Ab-Titchaz]

I'm left wondering why only Uhuru and Muthaura's cases yet kuna Ruto na Sang pia?
...ama kwa vile si kabila moja na wao?

Where is Geza Ulole when you need him?

 

[JokaKuu]

..I think they should send them to Kigali.

..Kagame was ready to send his soldier to deal with the post election violence that took place.

 

[Mwita Maranya]

Hawa jamaa wameshaona udhaifu wa mahakama ya Afrika Mashariki sasa wanatafuta upenyo wa kujinasua na kitanzi cha ICC.

Nikuulize bwana Ab-Titchaz unadhani ni ukabila tu ndo umemsukumu AG kutaka Uhuru na Muthaura kesi zao zihamishiwe Arusha? Hakuna sababu ntingine?

Labda unisaidie kufahamu na rafiki zangu Royals, Kabaridi na livefire nitaomba maoni yenu kama hii move haitaathiri ushirikiano kati ya Uhuru na Rutto katika Presidential bid yao.

 

[Kabaridi]

Hawa jamaa wameshaona udhaifu wa mahakama ya Afrika Mashariki sasa wanatafuta upenyo wa kujinasua na kitanzi cha ICC.

Nikuulize bwana Ab-Titchaz unadhani ni ukabila tu ndo umemsukumu AG kutaka Uhuru na Muthaura kesi zao zihamishiwe Arusha? Hakuna sababu ntingine?

Labda unisaidie kufahamu na rafiki zangu Royals, Kabaridi na livefire nitaomba maoni yenu kama hii move haitaathiri ushirikiano kati ya Uhuru na Rutto katika Presidential bid yao.

hatua hii haielewki kweli. Ajabu ni baada ya uchaguzi hizi kelele za ICC zitapungua kwa kiasi kikubwa ikiwa odinga atanyakua urais wa 2013. Agwambo akishindwa basi tuwe tayari kwa maana hawa wenye kuleta swala la ICC hawatapumzika...

ndio maoni yangu hayo

 

[Geza Ulole]

I'm left wondering why only Uhuru and Muthaura's cases yet kuna Ruto na Sang pia?
...ama kwa vile si kabila moja na wao?

Where is Geza Ulole when you need him?

the others r not sons of Mumbi....hence no need for special treatment

 

[livefire]

Hawa jamaa wameshaona udhaifu wa mahakama ya Afrika Mashariki sasa wanatafuta upenyo wa kujinasua na kitanzi cha ICC.

Nikuulize bwana Ab-Titchaz unadhani ni ukabila tu ndo umemsukumu AG kutaka Uhuru na Muthaura kesi zao zihamishiwe Arusha? Hakuna sababu ntingine?

Labda unisaidie kufahamu na rafiki zangu Royals, Kabaridi na livefire nitaomba maoni yenu kama hii move haitaathiri ushirikiano kati ya Uhuru na Rutto katika Presidential bid yao.

sina wasiwasi kabisa na kasheshe hizi. The hague two have since been a goverment darl since the mention of one Uk, Muthaura and Ruto(ex ODM) minus any other formidable ODM wingman. Its an effort in futility and which might land Kenya into another round of international diplomatic squabbles. I dont know the game plan here but the current top brass is increasingly posing/manifesting as a pro TNA regime. Did i mention here some time back that Uhuru is leading this nation as a defacto president?

A lot is happening with regards to the ICC with Kenya's AG pushing for counterproductive reflexes every minute he speaks, like denying the OTP evidence, resisting assets freeze then "this".

Listening to UK and Ruto, one gets the notion that the fellaz are honest and hardworking with Kenyas interest at heart then one wonders how such a people got entangled in this mad web? wasted vibrant young minds esp one Ruto Samoei, i love his emphatic enthusiasm and vision for this nation.

That said TNA/URP will not deteriorate cause of this, they have been at this all while. A win for Jubilee and its repurcussion remain to be the only bottleneck implication so far.

 

[Kabaridi]

I'm left wondering why only Uhuru and Muthaura's cases yet kuna Ruto na Sang pia?
...ama kwa vile si kabila moja na wao?

Where is Geza Ulole when you need him?

This is what we call the writers little devices they useto frame their titles; check for instance how this writer starts his article

Title = AG says no to Uhuru, Ruto asset freeze

KENYA: Kenya has declined to freeze the assets of four Kenyans facing crimes against humanity at The Hague.

And in a letter to the International Criminal Court dated yesterday, Attorney General Githu Muigai made a final push to have the cases heard in Kenya or in the Tanzanian city of Arusha.



In a second letter to ICC prosecutor Fatou Bensouda, Prof Muigai said the identification and freezing of assets of the suspects could only be carried out in the event of a conviction.
Enforce request
He said the Government could not enforce a request such as the one made by Bensouda without a court order.
As Muigai was addressing the letters in Nairobi, two of the ICC suspects – Uhuru Kenyatta and William Ruto – were dismissing comments made by Bensouda as calculated to erode their support in their bid to become President and Deputy President in the March 4 elections.

This is actually turning out to be some kind of soap opera of some sort. Bensouda has been breathing fire about commencement of the trials after march 2013 only to start complaining of government failure to hand in crucial evidence. Others said bensouda has prepared herself to leave the Kenya Government and kenyans in particular in "shock".

They have been preparaing themselves for a full trial only to remember they lack evidence. That has been the same ten years delaying tactics they have used to prosecute the Bosnia case. They are slowly and seriously destroying their status as a credible court.

Watch this phrase from now hence forth lack of evidence

 

[Royals]

Hawa jamaa wameshaona udhaifu wa mahakama ya Afrika Mashariki sasa wanatafuta upenyo wa kujinasua na kitanzi cha ICC.

Nikuulize bwana Ab-Titchaz unadhani ni ukabila tu ndo umemsukumu AG kutaka Uhuru na Muthaura kesi zao zihamishiwe Arusha? Hakuna sababu ntingine?

Labda unisaidie kufahamu na rafiki zangu Royals, Kabaridi na livefire nitaomba maoni yenu kama hii move haitaathiri ushirikiano kati ya Uhuru na Rutto katika Presidential bid yao.

Mkuu Mwita Maranya,

Kama waikumbuka Arusha na zile kesi za wanyarwanda zilivoenda hadi Kagame akazilalamikia na kuomba zihamie Kigali ili wakazihukumu wenyewe. Hii ni kutokana na kuonekana kama hukumu za Arusha hazikwenda kihalali. Wao wakaanzisha za kwao kule Rwanda wakaziita Gachacha.

Arusha pia iko ile kesi ya mbunge Lema ambayo ilimvua ubunge kiasi ambacho hata waioijua sheria walikujua kuwa hukumu ile ina mkono wa mtu. Ili kuja kubainika kuwa kweli ilikosewa, Lema akarudishiwa ubunge wake.

Na hawa akina Uhuru nao huona na kuamini kuwa kama kesi ile ikija Arusha nao wanaweza kupitisha ujanja ujanja na hatimae wskapata matarajio yao wao.

Lakini kwa hili watakuwa wanakosea maana inavyoonekana huku mwenzao hasimu wao mkubwa kisiasa keshatangulia. Fikiri kuhudhiria kwa bwana Magufuli kwenye ufunguzi wa muungano wa CORD kule Nairobi na fikiri ujio wa kificho wa Raila nchini TZ mwisho wa mwaka.

Kwa hiyo nimalize kwa kusema kuwa suala la kuhamishia kesi yao Arusha ni sawa mtu aliyeshikwa na tumbo la kuhara akiwa safarini kuwa huwa hachagui choo.

Kwa haitaathiri urafiki wao na Ruto iko wazi kuwa tangu hapo mwanzo hawakuwa marafiki. Urafiki wao umelazimishwa na kesi yao. Na hii ya kuunganika katika siasa walifikiri kuwa kungewasaidia kwakidhani kuwa huenda watu wanso waunga mkono wao wakidhsni ni wakenya wote kwa jumla yao kuwa huenda siku moja wange tokea mabarabarani kwa maandamano huku wakiimba tunataka haki yetu yaani kufutiwa kesi na mabango yenye maandishi ya kuitaka ICC iwafutie kesi.

Salaam kwa AB Tichaz, livefire, Kabaridi, JFM na Mfianchi.

 

[Kwameh]

come on, who cares

 

[Geza Ulole]

Mkuu Mwita Maranya,

Kama waikumbuka Arusha na zile kesi za wanyarwanda zilivoenda hadi Kagame akazilalamikia na kuomba zihamie Kigali ili wakazihukumu wenyewe. Hii ni kutokana na kuonekana kama hukumu za Arusha hazikwenda kihalali. Wao wakaanzisha za kwao kule Rwanda wakaziita Gachacha.

Arusha pia iko ile kesi ya mbunge Lema ambayo ilimvua ubunge kiasi ambacho hata waioijua sheria walikujua kuwa hukumu ile ina mkono wa mtu. Ili kuja kubainika kuwa kweli ilikosewa, Lema akarudishiwa ubunge wake.

Na hawa akina Uhuru nao huona na kuamini kuwa kama kesi ile ikija Arusha nao wanaweza kupitisha ujanja ujanja na hatimae wskapata matarajio yao wao.

Lakini kwa hili watakuwa wanakosea maana inavyoonekana huku mwenzao hasimu wao mkubwa kisiasa keshatangulia. Fikiri kuhudhiria kwa bwana Magufuli kwenye ufunguzi wa muungano wa CORD kule Nairobi na fikiri ujio wa kificho wa Raila nchini TZ mwisho wa mwaka.

Kwa hiyo nimalize kwa kusema kuwa suala la kuhamishia kesi yao Arusha ni sawa mtu aliyeshikwa na tumbo la kuhara akiwa safarini kuwa huwa hachagui choo.

Kwa haitaathiri urafiki wao na Ruto iko wazi kuwa tangu hapo mwanzo hawakuwa marafiki. Urafiki wao umelazimishwa na kesi yao. Na hii ya kuunganika katika siasa walifikiri kuwa kungewasaidia kwakidhani kuwa huenda watu wanso waunga mkono wao wakidhsni ni wakenya wote kwa jumla yao kuwa huenda siku moja wange tokea mabarabarani kwa maandamano huku wakiimba tunataka haki yetu yaani kufutiwa kesi na mabango yenye maandishi ya kuitaka ICC iwafutie kesi.

Salaam kwa AB Tichaz, livefire, Kabaridi, JFM na Mfianchi.

usichanganye mambo kesi ya Lema haihusiani na EA Court au ICC court in Arusha! Kama UK na Ruto watashitakiwa Arusha hawatashitakiwa kwa mujibu wa URT laws ila International laws!