Kenyan & Tanzanian Surburbs

[Nairoberry]

whats so spectacular over there? hata dsm view yake ni nzuri kuliko hii, ukiachilia kuwa tuko pembezoni mwa bahari....naionea huruma nairobi kwasababu al shabab wataishusha kama uyoga.

wakenya si waoga kama sisi watz

 

[Hute]

watz si waoga, tumepigana sana na tumeshida, pia tumekomboa nchi nyingi kusini mwa africa, kenya hana historia hiyo zaidi ya mungiki....al shabab inawatoa kamasi...ninawaonea huruma....ombeni msaada tuje tuwasaidie..

 

[Nairoberry]

watz si waoga, tumepigana sana na tumeshida, pia tumekomboa nchi nyingi kusini mwa africa, kenya hana historia hiyo zaidi ya mungiki....al shabab inawatoa kamasi...ninawaonea huruma....ombeni msaada tuje tuwasaidie..

kenya wasaidiwe na jeshi linalovalia gumboot na hata alina airforce wala navy

 

[BAK]

Kuna uzi hapa wa miaka ya nyuma ambao ulikuwa na mapicha mengi sana ya sehemu nzuri nzuri za jiji la Nairobi na yale majengo ya kukata na shoka ya jiji hilo.

 

[njemba fulani]

All it took for Matheka was a visit atop Nairobi's landmark, the Kenyatta International Conference Centre, where he saw a different side of Nairobi that he wanted to capture for himself.


"I was still an amateur photographer then. I wasn't on social media and did not even have a blog. I just took the pictures for myself, but later when I uploaded them, they went viral.
People have never seen the city looking like that, and they were pleasantly surprised," he says.

He agrees that the city needs to do a lot more to improve its image.

"I did not take the pictures to change the perception of foreigners but for us as Kenyans. Everybody was pleasantly surprised. Online, the comments on the pictures range from ‘they are photoshopped' to ‘that is not Nairobi," says Matheka.

Matheka, who started taking pictures just four years ago, has a philosophical look at his work. "They offer hope and hope derives more strength than despair."

The pictures have proved a hit with foreigners, who are shocked when they see a different Nairobi from what they have heard or seen in the pictures.

"They look at this city, which is in a third world country. You look at Paris, New York and Dubai and you just want to visit them, but when you get there, of course they are nowhere close to the pictures you saw."
Creative photographer showcases the city of Nairobi as you

Hapa mi naona only five tall buildings ambazo im sure mtu akipiga picha ya mandhari ya dar usiku will surely look better than this. Au labda nimehesabu vibaya, lakini mtu ajaribu kuhesabu hizo buildings ndefu zilizokuwepo hapo.

 

[Delta4]

Hapa mi naona only five tall buildings ambazo im sure mtu akipiga picha ya mandhari ya dar usiku will surely look better than this. Au labda nimehesabu vibaya, lakini mtu ajaribu kuhesabu hizo buildings ndefu zilizokuwepo hapo.

Wee wacha kuipiga domo, baana. Basi nenda kapiga hizo picha za Dar kisha kelete hapa. Waacha makelele.

Wtz kweli washamba sana - nie mwa-play ''catch-up'' to Kenya all the time, alafu you gripe always with envy for your own lethargy as if Kenyans were holding you tied down to your inaction.

Just take a basic digital camera and take some shots of this much better view than Nairobi you allege exists in Dar es salaam, dude!!

 

[njemba fulani]

Wee wacha kuipiga domo, baana. Basi nenda kapiga hizo picha za Dar kisha kelete hapa. Waacha makelele.

Wtz kweli washamba sana - nie mwa-play ''catch-up'' to Kenya all the time, alafu you gripe always with envy for your own lethargy as if Kenyans were holding you tied down to your inaction.

Just take a basic digital camera and take some shots of this much better view than Nairobi you allege exists in Dar es salaam, dude!!

Washamba nyie ambao mnabrag about some silly foto u focused on few sky scrapers and bring here on jf. Kama nimekosea can u count the number of skycrapers in that shot. Alaf unaleta matusi hapa, nani alikuita we mshamba na kuanza kuwaambia watanzania wao ni lethargic. Hii tabia yenu ya kujiona nyie ni bora kaeni nayo huko huko kwenu, hapa ulileta ujinga unambiwa tu.

 

[Ab-Titchaz]

Ngoja tuingie Dandora kidogo tuone hali ikoje....

Less than 5km (two miles) from central Nairobi lie the smouldering mountains of rubbish thrown away by the residents and businesses of the Kenyan capital. Dandora is one of Africa's largest dumping and scavenging grounds. Every day thousands of slum dwellers try to eke out a living. This man took nearly three hours to fill his last bag of the day - and he hopes to sell the contents, which are mostly scraps of rubber, for $0.50 (£0.30).

People rummage through the filth, sorting into large sacks the materials that cannot be eaten - but can be sold for recycling. Metals, rubber, milk bags, plastics, meat bones, and electronics are some of the most sought-after recyclables. The Nairobi city council does not officially condone this informal system of recycling, which helps to manage the dump. Dandora opened in 1975, and under international environmental laws should have been closed after 15 years.

An informal chain of about 6,000 middlemen and women has long done the dirty work for recycling companies. The self-employed pickers scavenge through the sprawling 30-acre rubbish dump from dawn until dusk. They then take their sacks to nearby weigh stations where small buyers purchase them, eventually collecting enough to sell on to the informal truck drivers, who deliver the loads to the recycling companies. Pickers say they are lucky to make $2.50 in a day

Julius Macharia, 27, who prefers to go by the nickname "Tiger", is one of Dandora's gatekeepers. In exchange for security, truck drivers pay his cartel to enter the site. Here, he directs a truck to an acceptable location - pickers shout at him to find a spot that does not spill onto an area they have yet to sort through. Despite being declared full by the Nairobi council in 2001, an estimated 2,000 tonnes of waste are still dumped each day.

Tiger worries about what will happen to those who depend on Dandora, should the government shut down the dump or open a new one elsewhere. After 40 years, a certain rhythm of life has developed and families have grown to depend on the income and food they get from scavenging. "We are like these birds and pigs to this city," Tiger says. "They don't recognize us as people. They don't care what happens to us, and if they relocate this place then we will have nothing."

Pickers say they never get used to the acrid smoke from the burning piles of waste which cover Dandora. A 2007 study by the UN's environmental agency found soil samples containing fatally high levels of lead in a community bordering the dump. It also found that 154 of the 328 children tested suffered from respiratory problems because of the site and had concentrations of lead in their blood that exceeded internationally accepted levels
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[Ab-Titchaz]

Jama za 'Dandoch' wakitafuta angalau cha kustiri tumbo...hii ni dhiki iloje jamani?

At roughly the same time every day, the unfinished salads, sandwiches, bread, and other foodstuffs from flights to Nairobi's busy international airport are transported to Dandora by this green truck. The scraps hardly make it out of the truck before dozens of men fight over the haul.

The strongest men and boys climb on every possible inch of the truck - while others wait their turn or for friends to toss them a morsel. Women usually avoid the frenzy, hovering in the background waiting for the crowd to thin out before picking through what remains.

This boy slurps down a carton of yoghurt - it is hot, liquefied and reeking after being baked by the sun. Nevertheless, it is one of the most coveted items.

A trip to the dump is part of the school day for nearly a quarter of the 850 students at St John's Informal School, which borders Dandora. For some of them, the food waste is the only meal they will have all day - and so the school does not mete out any punishment for absenteeism.

Rahab Ruguru, a 42-year-old mother of six, lives on the outskirts of Dandora. Apart from a four-year-old, Mrs Ruguru takes her whole family scavenging at weekends and after classes - to earn money for school fees, books and uniforms. No matter what regulations the bureaucrats in Nairobi may issue, she does not see a time they will stop picking through Kenya's leftovers. "If this site moves, then I will move with it - or we will not survive," she says. (Text by David Conrad and photos by Micah Albert/Pulitzer Center for Crisis Reporting)

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Life on the dump

 

[kshaka]

hahahaha...even the mods are getting in on the act! Look, we can all find images of poverty and destitution in each others countries, i'm sure you know about kigogoni and mtoni, but that's not what this thread was about, is it? It's actually quite pathetic, this.

 

[Mwembetayari]

We are dealing with illiterate, xenophobic fruits from beggars' paradise that will project their insecurities and frustration on everyone! Hahaha! That is Jamii Forums for you, a site dedicated to xenophobia and the euphoric ujamaa tales of the demigod nyerere.

 

[FJM]

We are dealing with illiterate, xenophobic fruits from beggars' paradise that will project their insecurities and frustration on everyone! Hahaha! That is Jamii Forums for you, a site dedicated to xenophobia and the euphoric ujamaa tales of the demigod nyerere.

You are not really "dealing with illiterate, xenophobic fruits from beggars' paradise", rather, you are enjoying Tanzanian product - JF, 100% Tanzanian. courtsey of illiteracy?

 

[Delta4]

I think that is a correct analysis of this, FJM. It is disgusting that a Moderator of an ''International-readership'' forum should make the desperate lives of a poor people his prank in any argument, as if such poverty and desperation was a genetic inheritance of their being Kenyan. Don't you find similarly afflicted Tanzanians in every town and city in Tanzania too?

On Jamii forums, one finds this sickening attitude prevalent that splattering your neighbour will mud makes the unwashed and very dirty persons splattering the mud somehow ''cleaner''.

 

[FJM]

I think that is a correct analysis of this, FJM. It is disgusting that a Moderator of an ''International-readership'' forum should make the desperate lives of a poor people his prank in any argument, as if such poverty and desperation was a genetic inheritance of their being Kenyan. Don't you find similarly afflicted Tanzanians in every town and city in Tanzania too?

On Jamii forums, one finds this sickening attitude prevalent that splattering your neighbour will mud makes the unwashed and very dirty persons splattering the mud somehow ''cleaner''.

Delta4, nimekuulewa.

You know JF ina sub-forums mbalimbali i.e sports, habari mchanganyiko, mapenzi, jokes etc . Lakini haimaanishi forum ya sports ni mahsusi kwa wanamichezo, ila inakutumika kujadili habari za michezo. Vivyo hivyo, international forum haiko limited kwa Kenya au wadau toka Kenya ila mambo ya nchi mbalimbali (including Kenya) ambayo yanaweza kuwa na mguzo kwa watanzania (msisitizo). Na ukipitia posts za international forum utakuta issues za nchi mbalimbali i.e Uganda, Egypyt, South Africa, na hata nje ya bara la Africa.

Hata hivyo sijaona waganda au wadau toka Egypt wakigomba huku jamvini, pengine hawajui uwepo wake. Binafsi nafarijika pale ninapoona michango toka kwa watu mbalimbali regardless wanakotoka nchi gani. Lakini pia nimepata maswali kuhusu nia na madhumuni ya michango.

Labda nikuulize, umejuwaje uwepo wa Jamii Forum na nini hasa kilikuvutia ukajiunga nayo? Sitaki kuamini wewe au mdau mwingine yoyote toka Kenya amevutiwa na 'ignorance' ya watanzania. Kwa akili ya kawaida mtu mwerevu hawazi kuvutiwa kukaa pamoja na mtu mjinga. Ikiwa hivyo basi hata mwerevu naye ni mjinga au kuna sababu maalum ya kufanya hivyo. Au unasemaje?

Mwisho, ninamini Kenya wanazo forums na watu wanajadili mada tofauti within the context ya Kenya. Jambo ambalo sina uhakika nalo ni uwepo wa utitiri wa wachangiaji toka Tanzania kwenye jukwa la Kenya wanaotumia jukwaa hilo ama kama reporting channel ya jinsi Tanzania ilivyopiga hatua au/na kueleza 'describe' wakenya ni watu wa aina gani, iwe ni kuwasifia au kuwakosoa kwa namna yoyote ile. Sina hakika kama watanzania wanafanya hivyo kwenye makujwaa ya nchi zingine hata kama watakuwa na section ya International.

Hapo kwenye red: Tanzania tunazo changamoto nyingi including kupambana na poverty kama ilivyo kwa nchi nyingi Africa including Kenya.

 

[Mbimbinho]

Wee wacha kuipiga domo, baana. Basi nenda kapiga hizo picha za Dar kisha kelete hapa. Waacha makelele.

Wtz kweli washamba sana - nie mwa-play ''catch-up'' to Kenya all the time, alafu you gripe always with envy for your own lethargy as if Kenyans were holding you tied down to your inaction.

Just take a basic digital camera and take some shots of this much better view than Nairobi you allege exists in Dar es salaam, dude!!

Ok, make comparison...!

 

[kshaka]

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Ok, make comparison...!

Haven't we done this before, already? See here; https://www.jamiiforums.com/jamii-photos/225589-kenyan-and-tanzanian-surburbs.html

 

[FJM]

Haven't we done this before, already? See here; https://www.jamiiforums.com/jamii-photos/225589-kenyan-and-tanzanian-surburbs.html

Wageni wanaongezeka. Delta4 kajiunga hivi majuzi.
kshaka wewe 'mtembezi' kidogo hapa JF🙂 nimekukuta kule habari mchanganyiko. Inatia moyo lakini.

 

[Ndahani]

kenya wasaidiwe na jeshi linalovalia gumboot na hata alina airforce wala navy

F16 na cluster bombs zitatumika lini Somalia?

 

[Jackbauer]

njoo uone maeneo tulivu huku bongo,acha porojo za kikenya wewe.kila siku skyscrapper tu,onyesheni mazingira yaliyotulia kama haya hapa.

 

[Butola]

Mtwara town centre

...Town Centre?....