Wakenya, Waganda, Wanyarwanda wote ni jirani na ndugu zetu!
Tuachane na majadiliano ya kusutana, kusemana vibaya, kuchukiana!
Kumbukeni..at the end sisi ni ndugu moja na tunategemeana na kuhitajiana kama majirani!
Majadiliano kama haya not healthy ktk kujenga undugu na ujirani mwema!
If I was one of the East African presidents, ningeiwekea Tanzania vikwazo na ni itenge kabisa, you are slowing down a much needed federation just because of some silly confidence problem, grow up man, what do you have to lose, your minerals? land? ustaarabu? what???
You guys have a strong hate for EAC for no reason at all, some of you dont even know why they are arguing against a federation they know nothing about, they just know its a bad thing just because one or two people they know are against it. Do your research, and stop being fed rumours.
Kenyan are opportunist, so dealing with that kind of people you need to be very care before you take any decision. They were the first to colapse EAC in 1977 with the reason that they are very strong economically so the thought they were contributing much to the union(unequal distribution of wealth), how come now they are the first to emphasise the Union? Although their currence is strong than Tanzania, they are not stable economically and they have realised that in the near future Tanzania will improve their economy so they want now to take this small slice of bread after they have almost finish their. Let we be very care with these guy, it is better for other country like Burundi ,Rwanda than Kenya to unite with us they are very selfish.Kenya inaogopeka kwa kuwa sababu ya kuvunjika kwa iliyokuwa EAC mwaka 1977 na yaliyotokea baada ya hapo, esp kuhusu ndege, meli, treni, nk. Kwa hiyo tuseme sasa hivi Wakenya wamekuwa watoto wazuri mpaka wanaihurumia Tanzania kwa uchumi wake mpaka wanaisemea? Halafu tuseme kila inaposema Kenya basi si tufuate kama bendera fuata upepo? Tanzania itajengwa na watanzania wenyewe maana hata hao wanaoitwa wawekezaji tumeshaonja machungu yake! Tumeachiwa urithi wa mashimo na wamechukua madini yetu! Hilo somo linatosha sana, hatuhitaji jingine. Wakenya wanaweza kuungana na Rwanda, Burundi, Uganda na hata Somalia na Sudani kama wanataka, nani kawakataza? Otherwise watusikilize na sisi, hasa kuhusu ardhi ambayo kwa Kenya na nchi nyinginezo za EAC hakuna hata pa kuweka mguu kwa Mtanzania yoyote!
Hata ungekua Mmombasa habari ndo hiyo. Tanzania kila mtu anaipenda duniani. Tatizo letu ni uoga tuu. Kila mmoja duniani angependa aitwe mtanzania tukisha maliza hako kauoga. Hamna mtu anaependa mtu mchoyo na roho mbaya.Ati obama haipendi kenya hahahahaha. I guess anaipenda tz. Get real man!
Wow!!! Under the cover of aliases to afford one with anonymity, it amazing to see how daggers are drawn in this forum.
Any minute, the debate is between Kenya and Tanzania...it degenerates into mudslinging and name calling.
why can't this debate be full of facts and figures and progressive thoughts instead of rehashing what has been said before.
"Oh Wakenya this and that" "Wakenya opportunist...they want to take our land" and so much blah blah blah...It is a boring argument.
We have to be progressive in our thinking.
Arguments in here are have now become so baseless. No substance at all. No meaning and improvement.
It's like a shouting match, where everyone is clamouring to shout the loudest.
How Pathetic?!!!!
Well to the boy who pretends to be Smatta arent we on computers right or in your head this is some sort of postal service. There is a thing called MS-Words which has so many features that can impress if impression is what youre looking for. Sadly I aim to get to the points, and also schooling in your little word where white man is the main evil of everything. With that feature MS-W forget about my punctuation I can make my English appear oxford educated if I choose to, but im not here for that unfortunately ie the features were created with the people speaking the language so if my teacher was Russian he did a pretty good job grow up.
To the main point
Mh, Mzalendohalisi
Hamna mtu hapa mwenye chuki wala kutaka kujigawa bali tuna angalia feature impilicatons especially kwenye boarders control. Wewe unaweza kwenda Kenya ukaishi bila ya shida za vile je unaweza kwenda nchi kama Burundi, na kuishi vile zingatia lugha inayo zungumzwa huko Kirundi na French? Uganda (lugha za ukabila zina tawala apart from English) na Rwanda ni hivyo hivyo tu. Hila wao waweza kuja Tz especially wanao zungumza Swahili na kuishi bila ya tabu popote Tanzania. Wana matatizo mengine pia ya kuona kilugha ni muhimu katika jamii zao na wamefanya huo mstari wa sisi na wale. Ingawa wanasiasa wao wanalazimisha hii border control sisi tukienda huko atuta dili na wanasiasa bali wana jamii wa kawaida na mawazo yao ya ubaguzi uoni ni utata hapo. Hivyo watakaokuja kwetu itabidi tuwatibu wanapo umwa wakwetu wenyewe wanatushindwa, tuwasomeshe mashule wa kwetu wenyewe wanatushinda kwani asilimia kubwa watakao kuja ni wale wenye maisha ya chini kwa nia ya kuboresha situation yao. Sasa hili iwe fair movement na sisi wetu waende kwao hapo ndipo inapokuwa tricky business hao wetu hawajui lugha zao hicho pekee ni kizuizi kitakacho zuia movement ya kwenda pande zingine hivyo tutaishia kupokea tu.
Hivyo basi inabidi viongozi wao wawafute huu upuuzi kabisa wa kujigawa kabla ya ku-limit borders control ili na sisi watakao kwenda wapokelewe vizuri na wawe na equal fighting chances katika jamii zao kama wao watavyokua wakija. Hivi sasa embu sema waganda wapo nchini wanao ongea Swahili na kuchukua kazi hii ata bado atujafungua hizo borders tukifungua je itakuaje sisi wenyewe hizo kazi azitoshi. Hivyo ni lazima wa maalize mambo yao kwanza ya kujigawa gawa ili na wetu waweze kwenda kwao freely.
Mwisho amna anaekata msimamo wa biashara na majirani zetu actually its a good thing kushea baadhi ya majukumu hayo ili kujaribu kujisaidia wenyewe. Na ni jambo zuri ila mambo ya mipaka kwanza wa sort hayo matatizo yao hawa majirani zetu.
Seriously speaking Juma, do you expect us to fully grasp what you are trying to say if you don't punctuate? As in you just write alot of stuff with only one full stop thrown randomly.. ebwanaeee.. Kweli wa Russia hawawezi tufunza kizungu, go take your lessons again, again. and again, and maybe just maybe you will understand what collons, comas, and fullstops are all about.
Smatta,
lemmie jump on you for a minute.Hapa JF 'hoja hujibiwa kwa hoja'...sijui
kama unanipata? Please cease and desist this thing of telling folks about
punctuation marks and such. This is not an English class forum and if
thats your interest kuna Jukwaa la Elimu.Go there and chastise folks about
their language skills.
Meanwhile I hope you are having a good day.Nimeona Kibs and RO have
decided for a new begining in Kenyan politics by starting the reform agenda yesterday.
Its not that am chastising the dude, lakini I will try and desist from such comments. tuta discuss hoja tu, and I will politely put my mental punctuation on his posts.
Hizo reforms hazina political goodwill, ni zile za kawaida tu, buying time. Twangoja elections coz thats our only way out, if not najaa Bongo na the next flight.
do you think a fool like an Idiotta can actually get into me. i aint got time for her nor not bothered with her chip shots, out of points so now she's just bubbling like a woman scorned.
may he doesnt get the message from others too, if mines arent clear to him. sort that mess no running to bongo for no election problems or else its for visiting purposes. to stay there you need a work/residence permit i guess the main post is all bout that situation so you will be deported if you think bongo will be ya save haven. you'd recognize from others if not me, sort that mess first.
do you think a fool like an Idiotta can actually get into me. i aint got time for her nor not bothered with her chip shots, out of points so now she's just bubbling like a woman scorned.
may he doesnt get the message from others too, if mines arent clear to him. sort that mess no running to bongo for no election problems or else its for visiting purposes. to stay there you need a work/residence permit i guess the main post is all bout that situation so you will be deported if you think bongo will be ya save haven. you'd recognize from others if not me, sort that mess first.
BTW, I can see you are taking lesson. Positive criticism does help at times. Keep up, understood you better.