cocochanel
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Inasikitisha nchi hii kutenganisha familia.
Kenyans deported from Tanzania encounter difficult times
Kenyans deported from Tanzania encounter difficult times
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pingli-nywee
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Wewe mnafik, get your facts right. Basi lilichomwa Malindi, wala si Lamu. Afu lilichomwa baada ya kugonga bodaboda na kuua 'rider' wake. Basi lenyewe lilikuwa na plate number za Kenya, na lilikuwa la mkenya. Ulipoona limeandikwa tu Simba ulipandwa na nyege kama kawa au?
wewe lofa kenyatta hana wakati na hilo lizee lilojaa majungu na chuki
pledged what you never delivered,morons
pingli-nywee
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Sasa omba omba wenu wametapakaa kwenye miji yetu huku Kenya kwanini? Nimekumbuka, ni kwasababu nyie watz na unafik wenu hata shilingi ishirini tu kuwaachia inakuwaga ni shidaaa!
mie nilikuwa natuma mizigo sana pande za arusha na vile kupokea mizigo kutoka pande hizo,walakini business environment imebadilika mno tokea lizee upara aingie madarakani
pingli-nywee
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Umeona Geza Ulole akiwadanganya wenzake live eti lile basi lililochomwa Malindi, yeye anasema Lamu, eti lilikuwa la mtz. Hata kwenye picha tu lilikuwa linaonekana live na number plate za Kenya. Anajifanya eti ni kwasababu lilikuwa limeandikwa simba wakati ni unafik tu unamsumbua. Waache hawa wanafik na chuki zao na wivu wao na uchawi wao. Tutaendelea kuwapiga bao tu kama kawa, kama dawa milele na milele. Amina.
pipeline,kwikwikwi😀😀😀..inajengwa lini,wachawi roho zakuoza nendeni mrambe matako ya mcanada muachiwe angalau pangaboi yenu,shenji😀
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Fukuze wote kama tulivyowatimua nyinyi
Huwezi ishi katika nchi za watu bila utalatibu hafu tutakwacha salama
Naton Jr
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Hehehe MAGUFULI lazima awanyooshe wale wote wavunja sheria fuata sheria ndio salama yako kufanya biashara Tanzania Dodoma University kuna zaidi ya wakenya 1000 wanasoma pale na wakishagraduate tutafanya instant deportation wakasugue lami huko Kenya no easy job for Kenyans in Tanzania
joto la jiwe
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Nchi yenu ni omba omba, it attracts omba omba, Tanzania attracts investors and professionals[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]
joto la jiwe
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Na bado, itaendelea kubadilika zaidi, now we mean business, very serious business.
joto la jiwe
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Tutaendelea kuwafukuza kama msipofuata taratibu za Tanzania, we don't need you the way you need us.
logania
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I am actually sad at this hostility btw the two countries...Personally, I have partnered with a good Kenyan friend for over a decade now in conducting a business in Nairobi .I lived in and went to school in Kenya during certain periods of my life. I have a good number of friends from there. My kids go there on holiday and my friends kids vice versa.I know some Kenyan teachers in higher levels of learning who live and work in Tz peacefully..One of my inlaws is married in Kenya for years now..I have never encountered any hostility while there or while conducting business..I guess my experience is rare and the business person in me realizes diplomacy helps me achieve profit...
I wish there were better relations btw the two countries...
Maybe the ones deported are not legal?
I wish there were better relations btw the two countries...
Maybe the ones deported are not legal?
Oii
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Impact some basic education into your chicken shit brain of your media and some many silly folks like you.
Kuna wakenya wengi wanaishi huku na tunafahamiana nao na wameajiri wakenya na watanzania wanafanya kazi wengine wa nakuja kuchill tu etc. Hawajawahi kuwa bothered because wapo legally, sheria ni msumeno, kama ulizembea hukufuata sheria, msumeno utakukata tu, hatutaki mambo ya kihuni huni huku kama kwenu. Discipline lazima iwepo, ili nchi isonge mbele. Mambo ya kuchukulia kila kitu poa huzaa hasara badae.
Kwa iyo fanyeni mnalotaka.
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You are the rare gem on this JF from the other side of the divide assuming you are a Tanzanian just by your narration. So then having experiences of both worlds as it were,you can attest to it that most bongo bloggers here are stuck in that age-old narrative that Kenya is the hell on earth! Most Kenyans will never bother you unless you bother them and in any case they're very quick to cite legal procedures for any stalemate (after all we are the most litigious citizens on earth). We don't have that snooping habit but busy making our lives happen and in the process developing Kenya. Hard work!
logania
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Well, I can only speak my truth...apart from the odd stare here and there when they realize am from Tz...nothing majorly foul to report....I have read and heard stories of all sorts but never experienced it personally...
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Nimejua kwa nini unachukia KenyaKenyans deported from Tanzania encounter difficult times
SATURDAY JANUARY 27 2018
Tanzania's President John Magufuli and Kenya's President Uhuru Kenyatta (not in frame) hold a joint press conference after their meeting at State House in Nairobi, Kenya, on October 31, 2016. Kenyans living in Tanzania have complained abou harassment by police officers. PHOTO | MAGDALENE MUKAMI
In Summary
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- Kenyan nationals living in the country claim that the exercise was a move to free up jobs for the locals.
- It has been reported that scores of Kenyan nationals are arbitrarily arrested and detained in Tanzanian cells on tramped up charges.
By VIVERE NANDIEMO
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James Chacha, a resident of Sakuri in Kuria East, Migori County, left for Tanzania on completing his secondary school education a decade ago.
For him, cheaper college fees in the neighbouring country was the main attraction to cross the border.
He joined a medical training college and graduated with a diploma in nursing before securing a job at one of the dispensaries in Mwanza town.
And, he found a wife in a Tanzanian lady, bought land in the outskirts of the town and built a family house.
CITIZENSHIP
Thereafter, Tanzania became home as he managed to get documents from the country’s immigration department granting him citizenship.
Mr Chacha, 34, was living a comfortable life until recently when he was sent packing by immigration officials on grounds that he is not a Tanzanian.
“It all started when President John Magufuli came to power. Immigration officials embarked on reviewing citizenship of Kenyan immigrants.
"I was told to present my birth certificate, primary and secondary education certificates, letters from officials at the village among other documents,” Mr Chacha said.
He added: “Getting clearance from these offices proved futile as the officials avoided attending to anyone said to be a Kenyan.”
FAMILY
He lost his job and was ordered to leave the country immediately.
His life has never been the same as he was compelled to leave his family — wife and one year old child — and run back to Kenya to avoid incarceration.
“I had to leave the country as quickly as possible or I would have been arrested and jailed like many of my compatriots.
"My life has been thrown into disarray for besides separating with my family, I have been rendered jobless and I am still struggling to get back on my feet,” he said.
JOBS
Chacha’s story represents the plight of so many Kenyan families that have been shattered as a result of being thrown out of Tanzania, where they have known as home for many years.
This has been going on since President Magufuli took over the leadership reins.
However, Kenyan nationals living in the country claim that the exercise, popularly known as Operation Timua Wageni, was a move to free up jobs for the locals.
The move saw scores of Kenyan nationals, who were said to be the most targeted, declared prohibited immigrants and deported.
KURIA
Several Kenyans have lost their jobs, property and many separated from their kin following the deportation.
The most affected families come from the Kuria region.
The Kuria tribe extends to Tanzania hence making most of the Kenyan Kurians cross over; some had permanently moved to the country.
Some who were born by Kenyan parents living in Tanzania have no links in Kenya.
Maroa Kehaga’s family, which traces its origins in Nyamtiro, had lived in the country for over 20 years.
DEPORTED
Mr Maroa himself moved there over 30 years ago. His five children have been born and raised in Mugumo.
However, on January 2017, Maroa was informed that he is not a Tanzanian and that he and his family had to leave and go back to Kenya for he had been declared a prohibited immigrant by Tanzanian authorities.
His family was ferried by immigration officials and dumped at the Isibania/Sirare border.
Mr Maroa, who had sold his piece of land in Kenya, was forced to quickly sell his property in Tanzania to start life afresh.
“It has been tough for me and my family. Tanzania has been the only home we have known.
"My children believe they are Tanzanians but we were forced to come back to Kenya as it was clear the government of Tanzania did not want us there,” Mr Maroa said.
LAND
“Moving from Tanzania was the most painful thing that ever happened in my life,” he continued.
“Two of my children were stopped from working. I closed my business and sold my property at a throw-away price. Up to now, I have not settled.”
He used the proceeds he got from selling his property to buy a piece of land at Masangora near Sirare, where he built a four roomed semi-permanent house where he currently lives with his entire family.
Mr John Muniko Makongo from Kugitimu was arrested last year by Tanzania police officers on allegations that he was a robber.
TRADERS
He was taken from one police cell to another before he bribed his way out and ran back to Kenya.
He says that contrary to the allegations levelled against him, he was an established trader in Mwanza and that his business competitors set him up because he is a Kenyan.
“Business people in Tanzania who fear competition have taken advantage of the deportation to eliminate successful Kenyan traders from the country. They set me up so that I could be deported,” Mr Makongo, who has resorted to farming on his half an acre plot at his Kugitimu home, said.
ARREST
A part from the deportations, it has been reported that scores of Kenyan nationals are arbitrarily arrested and detained in Tanzanian cells for framed up charges.
According to those interviewed byNation, the arbitrary arrests are part of the scheme to scare Kenyans out of the country.
“Police officers arrest Kenyans anyhow accusing them of crimes such as robbery and murder.
"They hold them in their cells until they are bribed to release them. This makes Kenyans run away,” Victor Robi, a trader in Tarime, said.
STUDENTS
Kenyan traders operating in Tanzania have also raised complaints that they are often harassed by police officers and immigration officials, something that has adversely affected their businesses.
Also affected by the alleged harassment are Kenyan students in Tanzanian colleges.
A number of Kenyans troop to Tanzanian medical colleges because of affordability.
Most of the students say life in the country has become tough.
“Tanzanians see us as thieves. Sometimes we are embarrassed in public whenever police manhandle us for no good reason,” Joseph Mwita, a student, said.
Tough times for Kenyans deported from Tanzania
MY TAKE
To be fair I find this report to be distorting. I pretty much believe what Magufuli does is noble and the country Tanzania needs someone like him. I say this because my family alone has been a victim of land grabbers from our Northern neighbors that got our piece of land through bribery. Pretty sure by the time he goes no nyang'au will dare to call us shamba la bibi. Much respect to him...