Kifo cha Kanumba: Ni uzembe tu? Sio Lulu!

Mjasiriamali1 · Apr 10, 2012

Lulu she' s a murder,unamuita mtoto? She is 18! Sijawah kuona upuuzi kama huu ulioandika hapa.let police finalise its work. By the way who r u? To conlude? Mnaandika upuzi upuzi tuu.nonsense!

kalcha · Apr 10, 2012

naomba fursa!
Kifo pamoja na ajali chanzo chake kikuu ni UZEMBE, lazima uzembe ufanyike sehemu ili ajali itokee the madhara yake ni pamoja na kifo, ulemavu n.k. hoja hapa ni uzembe, kweli, hata kwa regia, mkwawa, kennedy all! uzembe, alwayz uzembe! labda tungekuwa na SI unit) tungeweza kujudge kiasi gani kinasababisha madhara ya kiwango gani!.. I support ni UZEMBE

Ila kwa huyo marehemu wetu wa sasa, uzembe unaweza kuwa umefanywa na yeye mwenyewe, huyo kigoli, kaka mtu, daktari, majirani, hata TBC!!! au wote! ila kiwango cha uzembe ndo issue. kwa kiwango gani nani kafanya nini ndo kazi ya wapelelezi wetu, ingawa nna mashaka na uwezo wao wa kuchunguza mauaji ya nyumbani! (homicide).... hata tuu violence, kwani kifani polisi ndo wanaongoza kwa kichapo kwa familia zao, kwao sio kesi!

mi namuangalia kanumba kitabia kama nilivyowahi kumuona kwenye luninga, he is like this "tabia ya mtoto wa kiume kutokuact kama mwanaume inasababisha hata matendo yako natural (BEHAVIOR) YAWE HIVYO, au labda alikuwa kalewa then akahisi anaekti anapigwa (extremities) akasababisha ugomvi kweli! kichapo kikamkuta
alishawahi kuchapwa na kabinti kengine kalikuwa kamiss! magazeti yakaandika fuul, na huenda huwa anachapwa sana tuu na kazoea! kalea uzembe

kwa faida ya wanaume wengi, tuachane na shughuli za kike, kujiremba, kubadili sauti, kudeka na mambo yasiyo na msingi imara wa kiume! hakuna sababu ya kusubiri kurekebishana, tunazidi kuwa wazembe kuchelea kuchukua hatua

marrykate · Apr 10, 2012

calvinbill said:
LULU SHOULD BE HELD RESPONSIBLE, But she looks young to involve in sex at that tender age,what is the hurry for?

yaani namuhurumia huyu mtoti mpka basi sijui anawahi nini kwenye huu upumbavu wa mapenzi, kwenu madakari PF3 inasaidia nini ili mgonjwa apate tiba

trachomatis · Apr 10, 2012

Joseph isaac said:
Lulu she' s a murder,unamuita mtoto? She is 18! Sijawah kuona upuuzi kama huu ulioandika hapa.let police finalise its work. By the way who r u? To conlude? Mnaandika upuzi upuzi tuu.nonsense!

Jaribu kutuonesha na motive...

Au hata motive huelewi maana yake?

Leak · Apr 10, 2012

Mtulie sasa, tuzike kwanza ndio mlete hoja binafsi.naomba kufunga mjadala kwa muda mpaka saa 12 jioni baada ya maziko ya ndugu yetu
steven charles kanumba
rest in peace brother

MWananyati · Apr 10, 2012

Bwana PASCO, na kingine mie ambacho sijakielewa ni vipi mhusika mmoja tu ashikiliwe na polisi wakati na mdogo wa kanumba alikua eneo la tukio? hadi sasa ni maelezo ya mdogo wa kanumba na majirani ndo tunayoyafahamu, what about the other suspected side? Nafikiri pia intelijensia ya polisi inatia mashaka kwa kumng'ang'ania lulu na kumuacha mdogo wa kanumba aendelee kutoa yale anayoaminisha watu mpaka saiv. Nafikiri kifo cha SK ni beyond, far beyond lulu, eventhough she is implicated based on the ushahidi wa kimazingira.

Kiherehere · Apr 10, 2012

Dedii said:
kifo cha kanumba kinauhusiano na freemason, soon itakuwa wazi.

Kwa hoja ulokuja nayo.....Yaaani hata hujataka kuushughulisha UBONGO WAKO kufikiri!!!!!!!!! we kiboko aiseee

Kiherehere · Apr 10, 2012

MWananyati said:
Bwana PASCO, na kingine mie ambacho sijakielewa ni vipi mhusika mmoja tu ashikiliwe na polisi wakati na mdogo wa kanumba alikua eneo la tukio? hadi sasa ni maelezo ya mdogo wa kanumba na majirani ndo tunayoyafahamu, what about the other suspected side? Nafikiri pia intelijensia ya polisi inatia mashaka kwa kumng'ang'ania lulu na kumuacha mdogo wa kanumba aendelee kutoa yale anayoaminisha watu mpaka saiv. Nafikiri kifo cha SK ni beyond, far beyond lulu, eventhough she is implicated based on the ushahidi wa kimazingira.

vipi kuhusu baada ya mabishano Jamaa akampanda binti wa watu...alafu akaanza kukoroma au kuonyesha dalili tofauti akiwa kifuani, then yule binti akamsukuma...akiwa hajajua ni tatizo gasni linamface jamaa yake...then ndo kanimba akaangukia kisogo na kuzidi kuathiri ubongo zaidi........polisi na wataalamu wanatakiwa KUJUA NI MUDA GANI HUYU BWANA alipata hiyo brain concassion....na ni muda gani alipata mtikisiko mkubwa kwenye kichwa

Yawezekana alianza na tatizo la brain akuiwa kifuani kwa lulu na lulu akaamua mumtoa kwa mshituko

Sina imani sana na upelelezi na posmotums za wabongo ila kuna umuhimu kwa kuvihusisha hivi vitu

Kangura · Apr 10, 2012

111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111death is death!

Kefachester · Apr 10, 2012

Mengi sana 2tackiaaa,

Utotole · Apr 10, 2012

gambachovu said:
Jamani kwanini tusisubiri ripoti ya daktari na maelezo yake ndiyo tujadili?

Mtaniuliza kwanini... Sababu,kwamba, hatujui kama alidondoka mwenyewe,ama alisukumwa,hapa DNA itahusika kwenye nguo za marehemu,hasa maeneo ya kifuani ama tumboni.. Na hata zikionekana,zinachunguzika kama ni zamazingira ya kusukuma ama ya kupapasa,ama vinginevyo...

Lulu ndiye anayejua huko walikokuwa walikuwa wapi na walikuwa wamekaa na watu gani .... Na anatakiwa kueleza uhusiano alio nao na Kanumba kipindi cha uhai wake.. Hii itasaidia kujua kama anamjua vizuri na kama SK alikuwa na tatizo lolote la afya...

Na itasaidia na mambo mengine.. Forensic si kazi ndogo...

Nguo zipi wakati tumeambiwa wote walikuwa uchi kama walivyozaliwa?

ngoshwe · Apr 10, 2012

Shemeji yake anasema daktari aliombwaa afuatwe na gari na mdogo wake Seth Bosco akamfuata (haileezwi alifuatwa wapi), Je, wakati huo Kanumba alikuwa anaugulia peke yale pale chini?...nani alibaika nyumbani wakati tunaambiwa Lulu alikimbia>?

cartura · Apr 10, 2012

Kiherehere said:
Yawezekana alianza na tatizo la brain akuiwa kifuani kwa lulu na lulu akaamua mumtoa kwa mshituko

kwa style hiyo sidhani kama ingekuwa rahisi kumsukuma..

Jethro · Apr 10, 2012

Pasco said:
Wanabodi,

Kwanza tuendelee kupeana pole kwa msiba wa mpendwa wetu Stephen Kanumba.

Leo nimeisikia taarifa ya awali ya polisi ikielezea mwili wa marehemu umekutwa na jeraha kichwani na kushikiliwa kwa binti Lulu mwenye umri wa miaka 18 kuisaidia polisi katika uchunguzi huo!. Taarifa ya daktari kuhusu kilichosababisha kifo bado haijatolewa!.

Hili ni jukwaa la jamii inteligence likijikita zaidi kwenye facts na sio hisia na hoja hapa sio kupeana pole za msiba wala kumtetea huyu binti Lulu ambaye anataka kibebeshwa msalaba wa kifo cha Kanumba kama mhusika mkuu wakati ukweli halisi kuna kila dalili zinazoonyesha Kifo cha Kanumba japo kimesababishwa na ajali ya kuanguka na kujigonga, kinaweza kuwa kimesababishwa na uzembe wa watu fulani na sio huyu binti Lulu!.(kwanza nilipost kule jamii inteligence ikagoma)

Hoja hii inafuatia maswali mengi bila majibu ya ni nini haswa kilichotokea hiyo jana!.

Wewe kama uu mmoja wa mashabiki wa Kanumba na mpaka sasa una uchungu mkubwa na kifo hiki, nakishauri usichangie uzi huu maana utakosa objectivity na impartiatility kutokana na huzuni.

Hoja za msingi ni hizi.
1. Ugomvi ulitokea saa 6 usiku na mpaka majirani walisikia kelele. Mwili umefikishwa hospitali ya Muhimbili saa 11 Alfajiri, nini kilitokea hapo kati?.

2. Mdogo wa marehemu aliyekuwa nyumbani wakati huo ameongea kwenye TV kuwa aliposikia ugomvi akaenda kutoka kuingilia mlango ukafungwa kwa ndani, akaendelea kusikia vishindo ambavyo na majirani walivisikia, what did he do?, au mlango ukishafungwa basi ni kujiachia tuu liwalo na liwe, hapa sio kuna uzembe fulani?!.

3. Baadae Lulu akaufungua mlango na kutoka kama alivyozaliwa na kumweleza huyo kijana Kanumba ameanguka hiyo ilikuwa ni around saa 6 usiku, huyo kijana ulikwenda chumbani na kumkuta Kanumba kama alivyozaliwa anagalagala chini huku povu likimtoka mdomoni, what did he do first?.

4. Anasema alimpigia simu daktari wake!. Hivi kweli unaitwa chumbani na kumuona mtu ameanguka anavuja damu anatapatapa, wewe utamtafuta kwanza daktari wake au kazi ya kwanza ni kumkimbiza mgonjwa hospitali ya karibu?. Pale kwa Kanumba mpaka hospitali ya Sinza Palestina ambayo ni 24/7 ni only 5 minites away!. Tukio limetokea saa 6 usiku mwili wapelekwa Muhimbili 11 alfajiri!. Kulitokea nini hapo?!. Hapo sio uzembe fulani huu?!.

5. Hivi ni kweli Kanumba alikuwa na daktari wake?. Jee alikuwa ana suffering something kiasi kwamba kuna daktari maalum ndio huwa anamhudumia hali iliyolazimisha lazima atafutwe huko aliko ndipo Kanumba apate huduma ya kwanza!. Kama tukio ni saa 6, daktari alipigiwa simu saa ngapi?, na alifika saa ngapi?, kumbukeni muda wote huo Kanumba anagalagala na kuvuja damu nyingi kumsubiria daktari wake afike?!. Huu sio uzembe fulani?.

6. Tunaelezwa daktari alipofika ndipo juhudi za kumkimbiza Muhimbili zikafuatia, huku kukipatikana tarifa za baadhi ya wasanii kufika hapo kwa Kanumba within minutes na wengine kukiri walimkuta mwili umeshaanza kuwa baridi, muda gani ulishapita toka tukio mpaka hao wasanii/majirani waliofika mwanzo and what did they do?!. Hapa kweli hakuna uzembe fulani?.

7. Tumeonyeshwa picha na TBC zikionyesha umati mkubwa wa wasanii ukiandamana kuupeleka mwili Muhimbili, ikumbukwe wakati tukio alikuwa kama alivyozaliwa ila mwili ulionekana umevishwa, hivyo emergence ya aina ile mgonjwa huwa anafunikwa tuu shuka na kuwahishwa hospitali, kupatikana muda mpaka kumvisha huu sio uzembe fulani?!.

8. Kama tukio ni la dharura tulitegemea watu wa kwanza ni majirani iweje wasanii wajazane kivile usiku huo mpaka na waandishi wa TBC?. Haiwezekani baada ya kutokea ajali hiyo ya kuanguka, badala ya kumpatia mgonjwa huduma ya kwanza ya kujaribu kuokoa maisha ya Kanumba, watu walikuwa bize kuwatafuta masuper star na waandishi wawahi tukio lile huku wengine wakiendelea kuhangaikia kuupiga picha mwili wa Kanumba licha ya kujua tayari ni dead body?!.

9. Kama hao waliofika wakanshika na kuona mwili umeanza baridi, ni muda gani daktari alifika?. Ni muda gani walijua Kanumba ameshafariki?, kama alifia nyumbani hawakujua hiyo sasa at that poit ni police case badala ya kuitana makundi ya wasanii na kuidramatise scene ya kifo cha Kanumba?!.

10. Mwisho kwa sababu ripoti ya daktari kutaja chanzo cha kifo haijatoka, naombeni tusimbebeshe mtoto Lulu msalaba wa kifo cha Kanumba!. Inawezekana ni Kanumba mwenyewe aliteleza, na hata kama ni kweli alimsukuma, kama alimsukuma in self defence, Lulu hana hatia yoyote kwa sababu kifo kitakuwa kimetokea kwa bahati mbaya bila kusudio la kutenda jinai ya mauaji!.

RIP SK The Great

Pasco.

Ulicho kisema hapo juuu je Uchunguzi ulifanyika/ulifanywa kwa mtiririko huuuu hapo chini???

A. Unconscious Victim

1. At scene - If victim unconscious on arrival at scene,
MAKE SURE THAT A POLICE OFFICER REMAINS WITH VICTIM AT ALL TIMES, INCLUDING TRIP TO HOSPITAL SO THAT ANY DYING DECLARATIONS MADE DURING CONSCIOUS PERIODS CAN BE NOTED.

2. At Hospital - Upon arrival at hospital alert medical personnel to possibility of dying declarations. Request them to note same if made during operative period.

3. Notification - Request to be notified if victim regains consciousness so that you will be present when any dying declarations made.

B. Removal of Victim from Scene

1. Before removal

a. If possible, photograph victim's position at scene before removal.
b. If time and circumstance do not permit photos before victim is removed
carefully note the position of the victim in your report.
D. Obtain physical evidence from victim

a. Officer accompanying victim to hospital should collect victim's clothing and personal effects as they become available.
b. Officer receiving items should carefully note time received and the identity of person from whom items were received.
c. If Necessary for identification items handled by physicians, nurses should be marked by those persons and the chain of custody noted. This is particularly important with items such as bullets, etc. Medical personnel should not attempt to identify caliber or types of firearms used.
NOTE: - A failure to follow up on collecting items that left the crime scene with the victim may cause their loss or render them useless as evidence.

C. Notify command of situation

1. Notify command of your agency, REQUEST ASSISTANCE.
2. Notify or request notification of DA representative (Only for legal questions, do
not allow a lawyer to get involved in the actual investigation. Their training limits them to the providing advise on legal issues only).
3. Notify or request notification of medical examiner.

D. Secure Scene

1. Block or rope off scene (ABigger is better").
2. Persons at Scene
a. Clear unauthorized person from the scene. NOTE: You cannot worry about hurting someone's feelings. If they do not belong tell them to leave. This must include any unauthorized police command.
b. Prevent anyone from touching the body or disturbing anything pending the arrival of the medical examiner, identification personnel,and investigative officers.

c. Witnesses

1. Note name and address of persons present.
2. Obtain brief statement from each person present.
3. Hold witnesses until arrival of investigators.
4. Keep Witnesses separate to prevent conversation.
3. Prevent Destruction of fragile evidence such as footprints, tire tracks, etc.

E. Process Scene

CAUTION - Be aware that there are search and seizure problems in this area. If in doubt you may wish to contact your DA regarding a warrant or other advise.
NOTE: - At night - Obtain adequate lighting before scene processing commences. Artificial lighting used must be adequate for photography and for minute detail search for items such as hair, cartridge cases, etc.
WHEN LIGHTING NOT AVAILABLE - secure scene under guard and wait for daylight before processing is commenced.

F. Identification Personnel (Technical Investigators)

1. Note time of arrival
2. Note weather conditions, especially at outside crime scenes.
3. Check perimeter of scene to insure that all of scene is secured.
4. Obtain summary of situation from officer in charge.
5. Photograph scene
a. Photograph scene

1. Take color photographs of the scene from all angles. Work
from the perimeter to center.
2. Include photographs of entrance, exit routes to scene.

REMEMBER - There is no such thing as too many photographs of a crime scene.

3. Make sure that all possible locations relevant to scene are photographed. Particularly important that all rooms at scene are photographed.
REMEMBER - Something may have happened in an adjoining room that will be of critical importance as the investigation develops.

4. Photograph specific items of evidence such as footprints, cartridge cases, weapons, etc. as observed in place at scene. Where scale is important (footprints, tire tracks use ruler scale to show size).
5. Overhead photographs
a. Should be taken of outdoor scenes, including streets, intersections. These can be invaluable in constructing scale representation of scene.
b. Extension ladders, power company and fire trucks should be utilized for this purpose.

6. Video tape

a. Video tape recordings should be made of scene where possible.
b. Include video tape shots of collecting evidence, examining victim at scene.
c. Also video tape defendant, witnesses.

7. Photograph victim at scene

a. Color photographs should be taken of deceased from all angles.
b. Photograph deceased as items are removed from body, identification, clothing, etc.
c. Photograph substances on body and clothing of deceased such as blood, seminal fluid, powder residue, etc. These should include full length and close-ups.
d. Photograph wounds, injuries - include close-ups. This should be done step by step as body examined, disrobed by medical examiner at scene.

8. Make careful note of following:

a. Position of body
b. Position, condition of clothing
c. Location of substances on deceased and his clothing
d. Any alteration of deceased's position before your arrival as determined from witnesses or officers.

9. Survey Scene

a. Take careful measurements of the scene. Measure each room in a house (NOTE: it is very hard to return later to a scene if you do not have a warrant).
b. Use a reference point that is permanent.

10. Search of Scene
A. Deceased

a. Before removing examine deceased for physical evidence (Example: loose hairs, fibers, etc.)
b. Place deceased on a cloth sheet, move body shortest possible distance.
c. Examine the ground underneath the victim
d. Examine deceased for additional physical evidence that may become visible after movement.
e. Collect physical evidence from deceased to include personal effects, clothing, shoes, weapons, etc.

B. Scene area

a. Organize scene search by adopting specific plan, assign tasks,areas of search to individual officers.
b. Assign ONE officer to collect, mark and transport items found.
c. Execute search by carefully following plan of assigned tasks.
d. Note, mark and photograph location of objects found such as latent fingerprints, footprints, tire tracks, tool marks, hair, fragments of cloth, buttons, cigarette butts, cartridge cases, bullet holes, bullets, bloodstains, etc.
e. Collect, mark evidence.
REMEMBER - When collecting evidence DO NOT overlook such items as room furniture, doors, etc. that can be used to reconstruct crime scene in court.

f. Preserve items of evidence individually.

i. Do not place separate items of evidence in same container. (Example: mixing items of clothing in one bag can compromise evidence such as head or pubic hair when the location of such items on a particular garment is critical.

ii. Use correct container - molded plastic container for blood. Paper bindle for hair or fiber. Paper bag for bloody items. Never put evidence that may decompose or deteriorate into a plastic bag.

iii. Provide information to lab personnel concerning source of item, what test you desire performed. Make contact with the lab personnel and give a brief account of what your investigation shows.

11. Process Defendant

A. Photograph Defendant

a. Show any injuries or lack of injuries
b. Show his clothing and general appearance
c. Show hands (both sides)
d. Show any tattoos or scars

B. Take any evidence that you are entitled to

a. Pubic combing if a rape case
b. Any item that is on the clothing and could be lost
c. Obtain warrant for blood and hair samples

12. Autopsy Processing

a. Arrange through the medical examiner the transportation of the victim to morgue.
b. Medical Examiner investigator or police officer should be present during the autopsy
c. If possible before autopsy take finger and palm prints of deceased. If not then once the autopsy is completed get the prints.
d. Pick up any evidence that was obtained during the autopsy (blood samples, hair samples, fingernail scrapings, bullets)
NOTE: Place each item in a separate container. Paper bags are best. Each container should be marked, dated and initialed.

13. Investigative Personnel

a. Obtain summary of situation from officer at scene.
b. Check scene security and take steps necessary to correct and errors or omissions, if any.
c. Review all actions of officers on the scene
d. Initiate Investigation from the beginning
e. Determine identity of deceased

1. Identification on person of deceased
2. Relatives
3. Witnesses
4. Fingerprints

f. Attempt to reconstruct events at crime scene by use of the following:

1. Position of body
2. Number, location of wounds
3. Trajectory of bullets
4. Bloodstains, substances
5. Other signs of violence
6. Other physical evidence at scene

Jethro · Apr 10, 2012

kalcha said:
naomba fursa!
Kifo pamoja na ajali chanzo chake kikuu ni UZEMBE, lazima uzembe ufanyike sehemu ili ajali itokee the madhara yake ni pamoja na kifo, ulemavu n.k. hoja hapa ni uzembe, kweli, hata kwa regia, mkwawa, kennedy all! uzembe, alwayz uzembe! labda tungekuwa na SI unit) tungeweza kujudge kiasi gani kinasababisha madhara ya kiwango gani!.. I support ni UZEMBE

Ila kwa huyo marehemu wetu wa sasa, uzembe unaweza kuwa umefanywa na yeye mwenyewe, huyo kigoli, kaka mtu, daktari, majirani, hata TBC!!! au wote! ila kiwango cha uzembe ndo issue. kwa kiwango gani nani kafanya nini ndo kazi ya wapelelezi wetu, ingawa nna mashaka na uwezo wao wa kuchunguza mauaji ya nyumbani! (homicide).... hata tuu violence, kwani kifani polisi ndo wanaongoza kwa kichapo kwa familia zao, kwao sio kesi!

mi namuangalia kanumba kitabia kama nilivyowahi kumuona kwenye luninga, he is like this "tabia ya mtoto wa kiume kutokuact kama mwanaume inasababisha hata matendo yako natural (BEHAVIOR) YAWE HIVYO, au labda alikuwa kalewa then akahisi anaekti anapigwa (extremities) akasababisha ugomvi kweli! kichapo kikamkuta
alishawahi kuchapwa na kabinti kengine kalikuwa kamiss! magazeti yakaandika fuul, na huenda huwa anachapwa sana tuu na kazoea! kalea uzembe

kwa faida ya wanaume wengi, tuachane na shughuli za kike, kujiremba, kubadili sauti, kudeka na mambo yasiyo na msingi imara wa kiume! hakuna sababu ya kusubiri kurekebishana, tunazidi kuwa wazembe kuchelea kuchukua hatua

Until when tutajifunza kutambua nini maana ya UZEMBE/MZAHAA

na ndio maana me kwangu sito itaji kusubili uchunguzi wa Police wala Doctor, Lulu is typically a source of Kanumba death

Rutashubanyuma · Apr 10, 2012

10. Mwisho kwa sababu ripoti ya daktari kutaja chanzo cha kifo haijatoka, naombeni tusimbebeshe mtoto Lulu msalaba wa kifo cha Kanumba!. Inawezekana ni Kanumba mwenyewe aliteleza, na hata kama ni kweli alimsukuma, kama alimsukuma in self defence, Lulu hana hatia yoyote kwa sababu kifo kitakuwa kimetokea kwa bahati mbaya bila kusudio la kutenda jinai ya mauaji!.

kilichomwuua taarifa nilizozipata ni kiharusi..........Lulu is innocent, too innocent for our liking....................we would like to hold someone responsible but in this God has spoken in clear and unequivocal voice...........

Mboerap · Apr 10, 2012

Aisee, hio copy ungewarushia polisi wajikumbushe nadhani wamejisahau kidogo. Unajua hawa jamaa sasa hivi ishu ya maana kwao ni kuvunja maandamano na mikutano ya ki-siasa. Hebu chek jinsi walivyojipanga uzuri kudhibiti umati uliofurika mazikoni leo

Jethro · Apr 10, 2012

Pasco said:
Wanabodi,

Hoja za msingi ni hizi.
1. Ugomvi ulitokea saa 6 usiku na mpaka majirani walisikia kelele. Mwili umefikishwa hospitali ya Muhimbili saa 11 Alfajiri, nini kilitokea hapo kati?.

Pasco said:
Je Majirani nao hawkujiuliza kulikoni?Pale walipo sikia kelele na ni jirani gani alisikia kelele na je zilikuwa kelele za aina gani?

2. Mdogo wa marehemu aliyekuwa nyumbani wakati huo ameongea kwenye TV kuwa aliposikia ugomvi akaenda kutoka kuingilia mlango ukafungwa kwa ndani, akaendelea kusikia vishindo ambavyo na majirani walivisikia, what did he do?, au mlango ukishafungwa basi ni kujiachia tuu liwalo na liwe, hapa sio kuna uzembe fulani?!.

Je mdogo wa marehemu alisikia kelele za aina gani maana mpaka alishindwa kugonga mlango kuuliza kulikonii yamkini tunge penda kujua kelele zilikuwa ni zipi maana mlango ulikuwa umegungwa

Je hao majirani walisikia vishindo vya aina gani tupate ufafanuzi kidogo kwa hilo

Kufungwa kwa mlango kumbuka umeuliza kelele zilikuwa ni kelele za aina ganai na huyu dogo alishindwa kuwa gongea na kama kulikuwa na kelele za kupigana au vyupa kuvunjwa then dogo angegonga mlango kufanya ishara ya kuuliza kulikoni?

3. Baadae Lulu akaufungua mlango na kutoka kama alivyozaliwa na kumweleza huyo kijana Kanumba ameanguka hiyo ilikuwa ni around saa 6 usiku, huyo kijana ulikwenda chumbani na kumkuta Kanumba kama alivyozaliwa anagalagala chini huku povu likimtoka mdomoni, what did he do first?.

Je purukushani hizi zilichukuwa muda gani munazo zisema ni kelele? na hadi Lulu akatoka ndani Je akukuwa na ukimyaa fulani kabla ya Lulu kutoka ndani?Au kufungua Mlango?

Je huyo bwana mdogo ni mdogo wake kanumba kweli kweli au ni mdogo wake kiundugu kivipi?

4. Anasema alimpigia simu daktari wake!. Hivi kweli unaitwa chumbani na kumuona mtu ameanguka anavuja damu anatapatapa, wewe utamtafuta kwanza daktari wake au kazi ya kwanza ni kumkimbiza mgonjwa hospitali ya karibu?. Pale kwa Kanumba mpaka hospitali ya Sinza Palestina ambayo ni 24/7 ni only 5 minites away!. Tukio limetokea saa 6 usiku mwili wapelekwa Muhimbili 11 alfajiri!. Kulitokea nini hapo?!. Hapo sio uzembe fulani huu?!.

Sasa hapa ni akili za watu wawili Lulu na huyo mdogo wa kanumba(kwajinsi inavyo tambulika hadi sasa)

Lulu alivyo toka chumbani kwa akili ya mtuu yeyote hata kama umestuka huwezi niambia huna namba ya Doctor yeyote yule unae mfahamu uka wasiliana nae akakupa ushauri au mtu wako wa karibu akakuambia nini cha kufanya haraka kwa nyakati kama zile

5. Hivi ni kweli Kanumba alikuwa na daktari wake?. Jee alikuwa ana suffering something kiasi kwamba kuna daktari maalum ndio huwa anamhudumia hali iliyolazimisha lazima atafutwe huko aliko ndipo Kanumba apate huduma ya kwanza!. Kama tukio ni saa 6, daktari alipigiwa simu saa ngapi?, na alifika saa ngapi?, kumbukeni muda wote huo Kanumba anagalagala na kuvuja damu nyingi kumsubiria daktari wake afike?!. Huu sio uzembe fulani?.

Hoja hapo ya kuumwa au alikuwa na tatizo kiafya sidhaniii

Hoja kama hoja ulivyo ijenga kuwa Doctor wake ilimchukuwa muda gani kufika eneo la tukio na je alilichukulia vipi tukio alivyo elezwa kwenye simu?

Muda huo kanumba angalagala Lulu na Mdogo wa kanumba walikuwa wanafanya nini? Je walikuwa ni wao wawili tuu au kulikuwa na watu wengine mbali na kanumba kuwa alikuwa anagalagala chini

Je kwa kanumba kuna mlinzi?

6. Tunaelezwa daktari alipofika ndipo juhudi za kumkimbiza Muhimbili zikafuatia, huku kukipatikana tarifa za baadhi ya wasanii kufika hapo kwa Kanumba within minutes na wengine kukiri walimkuta mwili umeshaanza kuwa baridi, muda gani ulishapita toka tukio mpaka hao wasanii/majirani waliofika mwanzo and what did they do?!. Hapa kweli hakuna uzembe fulani?.

Na ndio maana nataka kujua je kwa kanumba kuna Mlinziiii?

Huyu Doctor aliye pigiwa simu ni doctor anae tibu magonjwa gani haswaaaaaa?

7. Tumeonyeshwa picha na TBC zikionyesha umati mkubwa wa wasanii ukiandamana kuupeleka mwili Muhimbili, ikumbukwe wakati tukio alikuwa kama alivyozaliwa ila mwili ulionekana umevishwa, hivyo emergence ya aina ile mgonjwa huwa anafunikwa tuu shuka na kuwahishwa hospitali, kupatikana muda mpaka kumvisha huu sio uzembe fulani?!.

8. Kama tukio ni la dharura tulitegemea watu wa kwanza ni majirani iweje wasanii wajazane kivile usiku huo mpaka na waandishi wa TBC?. Haiwezekani baada ya kutokea ajali hiyo ya kuanguka, badala ya kumpatia mgonjwa huduma ya kwanza ya kujaribu kuokoa maisha ya Kanumba, watu walikuwa bize kuwatafuta masuper star na waandishi wawahi tukio lile huku wengine wakiendelea kuhangaikia kuupiga picha mwili wa Kanumba licha ya kujua tayari ni dead body?!.

Swali langu lina rudi pale pale vilikuwa ni vishindo vya aina gani?? vilishindwa hata jirani yeyote toka na kuuliza kwa jirani mwenzi kulikoniiii hata kama ungeonekani una kisebu sebu ila kwa akili ya karibu hata kama mimi nasikia vishindo ni kwanza nisikilize kwa makini kwa sekunde kama 5 hadi kumi kijiridhisha sauti ya vishindo au kelele za aina gani. Je hata mlinzi nje hakusikia kama alikuwepo? na huyo dogo kama vishindo vilikuwa ni vikubwa sidhani kama angewza vumiria lazima tu ange uliza brooo kwema lakini mie bado na utata wa hizo kelele au vishindo vinavyosemekana vilisikika vilikuwa ni vya aina gani?

9. Kama hao waliofika wakanshika na kuona mwili umeanza baridi, ni muda gani daktari alifika?. Ni muda gani walijua Kanumba ameshafariki?, kama alifia nyumbani hawakujua hiyo sasa at that poit ni police case badala ya kuitana makundi ya wasanii na kuidramatise scene ya kifo cha Kanumba?!.

Sasa hapo ndipo ma doctor wanaojua kuchunguza mwili 1st AID wangetuambia mwali ulipooza kwa mudagani huko nyuma kitambo

Sasa hapo ndipo me nilikuwekea Homicide Investigation Procedures pia Police wetu walipaswa kuwahi eneo la tukio.

Au tusema mbali na police kuja eneo la tukio basi next morning walipaswa kuwa nyumbani kwa kanumba early in the morning wakianza investigation zao. Je hilo lilitendeka?

10. Mwisho kwa sababu ripoti ya daktari kutaja chanzo cha kifo haijatoka, naombeni tusimbebeshe mtoto Lulu msalaba wa kifo cha Kanumba!. Inawezekana ni Kanumba mwenyewe aliteleza, na hata kama ni kweli alimsukuma, kama alimsukuma in self defence, Lulu hana hatia yoyote kwa sababu kifo kitakuwa kimetokea kwa bahati mbaya bila kusudio la kutenda jinai ya mauaji!.

Mkuu kumbuka mpaka leo hiii Report ya Madoctor kwangu mie ilivyo someka kwenye vyombo vya habari yet ni nusu report haija beba majibu au madoctor waniambia wao wamejibu sababu ya kifo bi kutupa kilicho letea brain Concussion kwa kanumba

Je madocto walitufanyia scanning test ya mwili wa marehemu na Lulu hata kama alikuwa chini ya ulinzi yetu police wa kike walipaswa kwenda ku mfanyia uchunguzi huko aliko kuwa.

Je eneo la tukio lili lindwa kusije potea kwa vithibitisho (Evidence) siku ya tukio?

RIP SK The Great
Pasco.

My Take;
Sidhani kabisa kama kulikuwa na tukio la kubakwa mtu ninakitoa kipengele cha lulu kubakwa kwanza katika hii case.
Bwana mdogo wa kanumba kwa muji wa taarifa lulu alikuwa anakuja hapo home kwa muda gani yaani ni mtu wa kuja mara kwa mara ? je uhusiano wake na marehemu kwa akili yako ulikuwa unautazamaje?.

Hapo nyuma kama week mmoja kabla ya mauti kumkuta kanumba Lulu ulitangaza katika Live EASTV(Channel 5) kipindi cha MIKASI kipindi kinacho endeshwa na Salama kuwa wewe huna boyfriend na uko under age sawa hatukatai je kama mlikuwa mwafanya siri wewe na kanumba, ila ilikuwaje mlikuwa uchi wa mnyama chumbani kati ya wewe na kanumba na kulisikika kelele na vishindo je me sidhani ni kubakwa bali wewe mwenye uliingia chumbani ukiwa umevaaa na ukatoka nje ukiwa uchi una weweseka kuwa kanumba kazidiwa nae marehemu alikuwa yuko uchi wa mnyama? Lulu anaweza kutuelezea hilooo.

Jethro · Apr 10, 2012

Rutashubanyuma said:
kilichomwuua taarifa nilizozipata ni kiharusi..........Lulu is innocent, too innocent for our liking....................we would like to hold someone responsible but in this God has spoken in clear and unequivocal voice...........

Give us a concrete evidence to support your words "Lulu is Innocent"

This is how the Homicide Investigation goes by procedures sasa kwa kukusaidia soma hii then utupe jibu lako

A. Unconscious Victim

1. At scene - If victim unconscious on arrival at scene,
MAKE SURE THAT A POLICE OFFICER REMAINS WITH VICTIM AT ALL TIMES, INCLUDING TRIP TO HOSPITAL SO THAT ANY DYING DECLARATIONS MADE DURING CONSCIOUS PERIODS CAN BE NOTED.

2. At Hospital - Upon arrival at hospital alert medical personnel to possibility of dying declarations. Request them to note same if made during operative period.

3. Notification - Request to be notified if victim regains consciousness so that you will be present when any dying declarations made.

B. Removal of Victim from Scene

1. Before removal

a. If possible, photograph victims position at scene before removal.
b. If time and circumstance do not permit photos before victim is removed
carefully note the position of the victim in your report.
D. Obtain physical evidence from victim

a. Officer accompanying victim to hospital should collect victims clothing and personal effects as they become available.
b. Officer receiving items should carefully note time received and the identity of person from whom items were received.
c. If Necessary for identification items handled by physicians, nurses should be marked by those persons and the chain of custody noted. This is particularly important with items such as bullets, etc. Medical personnel should not attempt to identify caliber or types of firearms used.
NOTE: - A failure to follow up on collecting items that left the crime scene with the victim may cause their loss or render them useless as evidence.

C. Notify command of situation

1. Notify command of your agency, REQUEST ASSISTANCE.
2. Notify or request notification of DA representative (Only for legal questions, do
not allow a lawyer to get involved in the actual investigation. Their training limits them to the providing advise on legal issues only).
3. Notify or request notification of medical examiner.

D. Secure Scene

1. Block or rope off scene (ABigger is better").
2. Persons at Scene
a. Clear unauthorized person from the scene. NOTE: You cannot worry about hurting someones feelings. If they do not belong tell them to leave. This must include any unauthorized police command.
b. Prevent anyone from touching the body or disturbing anything pending the arrival of the medical examiner, identification personnel,and investigative officers.

c. Witnesses

1. Note name and address of persons present.
2. Obtain brief statement from each person present.
3. Hold witnesses until arrival of investigators.
4. Keep Witnesses separate to prevent conversation.
3. Prevent Destruction of fragile evidence such as footprints, tire tracks, etc.

E. Process Scene

CAUTION - Be aware that there are search and seizure problems in this area. If in doubt you may wish to contact your DA regarding a warrant or other advise.
NOTE: - At night - Obtain adequate lighting before scene processing commences. Artificial lighting used must be adequate for photography and for minute detail search for items such as hair, cartridge cases, etc.
WHEN LIGHTING NOT AVAILABLE - secure scene under guard and wait for daylight before processing is commenced.

F. Identification Personnel (Technical Investigators)

1. Note time of arrival
2. Note weather conditions, especially at outside crime scenes.
3. Check perimeter of scene to insure that all of scene is secured.
4. Obtain summary of situation from officer in charge.
5. Photograph scene
a. Photograph scene

1. Take color photographs of the scene from all angles. Work
from the perimeter to center.
2. Include photographs of entrance, exit routes to scene.

REMEMBER - There is no such thing as too many photographs of a crime scene.

3. Make sure that all possible locations relevant to scene are photographed. Particularly important that all rooms at scene are photographed.
REMEMBER - Something may have happened in an adjoining room that will be of critical importance as the investigation develops.

4. Photograph specific items of evidence such as footprints, cartridge cases, weapons, etc. as observed in place at scene. Where scale is important (footprints, tire tracks use ruler scale to show size).
5. Overhead photographs
a. Should be taken of outdoor scenes, including streets, intersections. These can be invaluable in constructing scale representation of scene.
b. Extension ladders, power company and fire trucks should be utilized for this purpose.

6. Video tape

a. Video tape recordings should be made of scene where possible.
b. Include video tape shots of collecting evidence, examining victim at scene.
c. Also video tape defendant, witnesses.

7. Photograph victim at scene

a. Color photographs should be taken of deceased from all angles.
b. Photograph deceased as items are removed from body, identification, clothing, etc.
c. Photograph substances on body and clothing of deceased such as blood, seminal fluid, powder residue, etc. These should include full length and close-ups.
d. Photograph wounds, injuries - include close-ups. This should be done step by step as body examined, disrobed by medical examiner at scene.

8. Make careful note of following:

a. Position of body
b. Position, condition of clothing
c. Location of substances on deceased and his clothing
d. Any alteration of deceaseds position before your arrival as determined from witnesses or officers.

9. Survey Scene

a. Take careful measurements of the scene. Measure each room in a house (NOTE: it is very hard to return later to a scene if you do not have a warrant).
b. Use a reference point that is permanent.

10. Search of Scene
A. Deceased

a. Before removing examine deceased for physical evidence (Example: loose hairs, fibers, etc.)
b. Place deceased on a cloth sheet, move body shortest possible distance.
c. Examine the ground underneath the victim
d. Examine deceased for additional physical evidence that may become visible after movement.
e. Collect physical evidence from deceased to include personal effects, clothing, shoes, weapons, etc.

B. Scene area

a. Organize scene search by adopting specific plan, assign tasks,areas of search to individual officers.
b. Assign ONE officer to collect, mark and transport items found.
c. Execute search by carefully following plan of assigned tasks.
d. Note, mark and photograph location of objects found such as latent fingerprints, footprints, tire tracks, tool marks, hair, fragments of cloth, buttons, cigarette butts, cartridge cases, bullet holes, bullets, bloodstains, etc.
e. Collect, mark evidence.
REMEMBER - When collecting evidence DO NOT overlook such items as room furniture, doors, etc. that can be used to reconstruct crime scene in court.

f. Preserve items of evidence individually.

i. Do not place separate items of evidence in same container. (Example: mixing items of clothing in one bag can compromise evidence such as head or pubic hair when the location of such items on a particular garment is critical.

ii. Use correct container - molded plastic container for blood. Paper bindle for hair or fiber. Paper bag for bloody items. Never put evidence that may decompose or deteriorate into a plastic bag.

iii. Provide information to lab personnel concerning source of item, what test you desire performed. Make contact with the lab personnel and give a brief account of what your investigation shows.

11. Process Defendant

A. Photograph Defendant

a. Show any injuries or lack of injuries
b. Show his clothing and general appearance
c. Show hands (both sides)
d. Show any tattoos or scars

B. Take any evidence that you are entitled to

a. Pubic combing if a rape case
b. Any item that is on the clothing and could be lost
c. Obtain warrant for blood and hair samples

12. Autopsy Processing

a. Arrange through the medical examiner the transportation of the victim to morgue.
b. Medical Examiner investigator or police officer should be present during the autopsy
c. If possible before autopsy take finger and palm prints of deceased. If not then once the autopsy is completed get the prints.
d. Pick up any evidence that was obtained during the autopsy (blood samples, hair samples, fingernail scrapings, bullets)
NOTE: Place each item in a separate container. Paper bags are best. Each container should be marked, dated and initialed.

13. Investigative Personnel

a. Obtain summary of situation from officer at scene.
b. Check scene security and take steps necessary to correct and errors or omissions, if any.
c. Review all actions of officers on the scene
d. Initiate Investigation from the beginning
e. Determine identity of deceased

1. Identification on person of deceased
2. Relatives
3. Witnesses
4. Fingerprints

f. Attempt to reconstruct events at crime scene by use of the following:

1. Position of body
2. Number, location of wounds
3. Trajectory of bullets
4. Bloodstains, substances
5. Other signs of violence
6. Other physical evidence at scene

Jethro · Apr 11, 2012

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Hello Mr. Pasco & Saidon
Nimevutiwa sana na tafakuri ya mazingira ya kifo cha Kanumba. Kiukweli mimi binafsi niligubikwa na simanzi nzito ingawa niko mbali sana kwa sasa takribani mwaka mmoja niko china. Kanimba ni mmoja wa wasanii ambao niliwakubali sana katika tasnia ya filamu na hata akanifanya nikubali bongo muvie, na siku ya tukio nilikua naangalia muvie yake ya "Crazy Love", na niliumia sana kwenye scene ile ya yeye kupigwa baada ya kukutwa na mke wa mtu, akapigwa hata akapoteza timamu zake kwa muda. Mimi sina mengi juu ya hukumu yake kwani Allah ndiye hakimu.

LAKINI,

Nikafunguka fahamu na kujiuliza maswali wa kadha, ambayo pia yamenifanya nijiunge na jamii forum kwani sikua mwanachama wa platform hii. Kiukweli haya ni majambo ya kiinteligensia kweli na labda kuna vyombo ambavyo viko responsible kushughulikia kwa mujibu wa katiba yetu, ila mwananchi mwema hakatazwi kutoa mchango wa kuliona hili kwa upana kwani hata hao ambao wanahusika kwa sasa watategemea watu ambao walikuapo kwenye tukio. Nilijiuliza maswali mengi na si kwa mantiki ya kumgandamiza Lulu, ila swali langu ni kama ifuatavyo;

1. Nini kilifanya Lulu aondoke ilhali yule ni mpenziwe na sidhani kulikua na kitisho chochote kwake kutoka kwa bwana bosco ambacho kilimfanya yeye akimbie?

Halafu tafakuri ya muvie alizoigiza kanumba kaka zinanipa mshutko juu ya nguvu za hawa watu wanaitwa "Illuminati", inasadikiwa by saa saba usiku wa tarehe saba bwana kanumba alifariki dunia akitokea kuoga. Kuna vitu kadha hapa vya kuvitafakari, saa saba (7), tarehe saba (7) na jina lake likiwa na herufi saba (7), jumla yake ni zile triple seven (777) zinazohusishwa na kafara ya daraja ya juu kabisa kwa hawa freemason, na kuoga kumerepresent "Rain Man". Nina wasiwasi tukio hili ni zaidi ya Lulu, kwa kuwa kwa ninavyomjua mimi Lulu hana ubavu wa kumsukuma the great, na Lulu alikua kama alivyozaliwa, freemason wanawatumia wanawake kama agent of evil, naye lulu alikua katika umbo lile la ibilisi tena kwenye ijumaa kuu (siku ya saba katika juma). Utajiuliza kwa nini muda wote huo kama ulivyoeleza hapo juu, saa sita mpaka saa kumi na moja alfajiri, kivipi?, hapo palikua na mipango inafanyika. Na pia huyu jamaa wa nigeria anaeitwa Ramsey alikua Bongo few weeks ago, unajua alikuja kufanya nini? huyu ndie walie act muvie pamoja ile ya Evil Kingdom, unapata somo gani kutoka muvie ile? jiulize kwa kina utapata majibu. Kwa hivyo kwa tafakuri yangu mimi Lulu alikua scapegoat kufanikisha lengo la kafara ya juu kabisa na hivyo High profile celebrity Kanumba karata ilimwangukia na wengine wanafuata muda utakapofika.

Karibuni tuchanganue.
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