LAPSSET tracking

[mwaswast]

Geza Ulole naomba uanzishe thread ya Bagamoyo vs lamu port uzidi kutoa povu...I like it when you get jealous.

 

[YoungD]

Hiyo Lamu pipe pile factory ipo wap vile? I see a welding yard [emoji115] [emoji23]

grow the https://jamii.app/JFUserGuide up! Ile utoto unakuwanga nayo ni mingi sana. Lamu port and lapsset in general is a reality that you cannot wish away with your stupid bile and hate. Come back to this thread when you have something similar or better from danganyika to compare. meffi!

 

[joto la jiwe]

grow the **** up! Ile utoto unakuwanga nayo ni mingi sana. Lamu port and lapsset in general is a reality that you cannot wish away with your stupid bile and hate. Come back to this thread when you have something similar or better from danganyika to compare. meffi!

Even if constructiono of Lamu port will be complete, it won't make any profit, it will end up as white elephant, only Uganda and South Sudan are reliable customers, can these two countries plus your selves have enough volume of cargo for two big ports, Mombasa and Lamu?

 

[IamLee]

I see that port to be not ready by 2020!

I see that port to be not ready by 2020!

I see that port to be not ready by 2020!

Will balaamoyo be ready by 2020?

 

[IamLee]

Even if constructiono of Lamu port will be complete, it won't make any profit, it will end up as white elephant, only Uganda and South Sudan are reliable customers, can these two countries plus your selves have enough volume of cargo for two big ports, Mombasa and Lamu?

When a project is designed, you say it will never be built, when it gets built you say it's a white elephant project. I love this song. It's a song of sorrow

 

[joto la jiwe]

When a project is designed, you say it will never be built, when it gets built you say it's a white elephant project. I love this song. It's a song of sorrow

Nimeanza na neno even if, because I am sure it won't get anywhere, there is no money for and GoK is running out of cash

 

[Depay]

Even if constructiono of Lamu port will be complete, it won't make any profit, it will end up as white elephant, only Uganda and South Sudan are reliable customers, can these two countries plus your selves have enough volume of cargo for two big ports, Mombasa and Lamu?

Hehehe... Watch the space... You are still on this planet for many years to come...

 

[Depay]

grow the **** up! Ile utoto unakuwanga nayo ni mingi sana. Lamu port and lapsset in general is a reality that you cannot wish away with your stupid bile and hate. Come back to this thread when you have something similar or better from danganyika to compare. meffi!

Brother, that's what am talking about....... snapping fingers!!! Beat it!

 

[joto la jiwe]

Hehehe... Watch the space... You are still on this planet for many years to come...

Which space for two big ports to save only three countries, actually only two countries because South Sudan is not a complete country, you don't need to spend calories to know that Lamu port will end up as a white elephant

 

[Kafrican]

Which space for two big ports to save only three countries, actually only two countries because South Sudan is not a complete country, you don't need to spend calories to know that Lamu port will end up as a white elephant

As opposed to Bagamoyo port, a $10B project meant to serve the same market as currently served by an already existing Daresalaam port

 

[Kafrican]

Which space for two big ports to save only three countries, actually only two countries because South Sudan is not a complete country, you don't need to spend calories to know that Lamu port will end up as a white elephant

As opposed to Bagamoyo port, a $10B project meant to serve the same market as currently served by an already existing Daresalaam port and Tanga port, hio ndo tuite Big old white elephant!

 

[Kafrican]

Even if constructiono of Lamu port will be complete, it won't make any profit, it will end up as white elephant, only Uganda and South Sudan are reliable customers, can these two countries plus your selves have enough volume of cargo for two big ports, Mombasa and Lamu?

First b4 you talk about a project, look it up so that you can argue from a knowledgeable point of view.
Lapsset stands for LAmu Port South Sudan Ethiopia Transport -corridor.... It had nothing to do with Uganda ,It was also launched b4 kenya even discovered oil

South sudan will get back to peace eventually,
Ethiopia is a landlocked country of 90+ million people, they want a second connection to the sea.
They also plan to build a massive agriprossessing industry in their south and will need a quicker access to the sea than Djibouti. By 2025-2030 their population will be between 120-150mil!

Look at lapsset project map -Uganda not in the plan

 

[TheStark]

Even if constructiono of Lamu port will be complete, it won't make any profit, it will end up as white elephant, only Uganda and South Sudan are reliable customers, can these two countries plus your selves have enough volume of cargo for two big ports, Mombasa and Lamu?

This is a vision 2030p project. It's build for the future. Mombasa port cannot handle an infinit increase in cargo

 

[joto la jiwe]

As opposed to Bagamoyo port, a $10B project meant to serve the same market as currently served by an already existing Daresalaam port and Tanga port, hio ndo tuite Big old white elephant!

This is what we call a challenge discussion instead of crying. Bagamoyo port is a strategic port for mainly big ships which can't served by any port in East Africa, this port is targeting to handle massive volume of coal and iron ore from Southern Tanzania, Copper and other heavy minerals from Zambia and DRC, but the most important is that, it is purely privately owned by China and Oman companies,GoT won't contribute anything apart from land and logistic support, if it will not make any profit, what we are going to miss are taxes and jobs

 

[joto la jiwe]

This is a vision 2030p project. It's build for the future. Mombasa port cannot handle an infinit increase in cargo

You can't commit such big amount of money from poor country like Kenya based on hopes without confirmed deal, you are hoping that South Sudan will settle soon, remember many of us had hope that Somali would settle soon after fall of Siad Barre, is that hope realized? if Kenya would commit big projects for Somalia what would happen?

About Ethiopia, if you have done basic courses on research methodology, you can understand when I mention"killer assumption", I can comfortably predict that Ethiopia shall never use Lamu port due to the following important reasons
1)Ethiopia has just finished building its SGR to Djibouti, Ethiopia needs to pay back Chinese loan with interest, therefore Ethiopia needs to make use of its railway by increasing volume of cargo transported by its railway, any attempt to use Lamu port will be suicidal to its economy
2)Ethiopia economy is not strong enough to build second railway line to connect with Lamu port, therefore the only connection with Lamu port is road, businessmen can't choose road if there is train
3)Ethiopia's Export Processing Zone(EPZ), lies along its SGR, therefore all goods and services shallbe transported by using SGR

 

[Geza Ulole]

First b4 you talk about a project, look it up so that you can argue from a knowledgeable point of view.
Lapsset stands for LAmu Port South Sudan Ethiopia Transport -corridor.... It had nothing to do with Uganda ,It was also launched b4 kenya even discovered oil

South sudan will get back to peace eventually,
Ethiopia is a landlocked country of 90+ million people, they want a second connection to the sea.
They also plan to build a massive agriprossessing industry in their south and will need a quicker access to the sea than Djibouti. By 2025-2030 their population will be between 120-150mil!

Look at lapsset project map -Uganda not in the plan

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And why will South Sudan leave Port Sudan n refuse to join Djibouti port? And why will Addis Ababa refuse Djibouti port also? Do u know how a no brainer project looks like? Ask Somalia as that's the only country Kenya is assured of to be onboard as apparent the project will be infringing her territorial waters! [emoji23] [emoji115]

 

[Geza Ulole]

This is what we call a challenge discussion instead of crying. Bagamoyo port is a strategic port for mainly big ships which can't served by any port in East Africa, this port is targeting to handle massive volume of coal and iron ore from Southern Tanzania, Copper and other heavy minerals from Zambia and DRC, but the most important is that, it is purely privately owned by China and Oman companies,GoT won't contribute anything apart from land and logistic support, if it will not make any profit, what we are going to miss are taxes and jobs

I heard of Toyota joining bandwagon before South Africa before Kenya was left solo waiting for Al Shaababs!

 

[joto la jiwe]

I heard of Toyota joining bandwagon before South Africa before Kenya was left solo waiting for Al Shaababs!

Mambo yanawawia magumu jirani zetu kwa sababu ya kufanya miradi kwa kutaka sifa bila kujipa muda wa kuufikiria mradi kwa undani

 

[Geza Ulole]

Mambo yanawawia magumu jirani zetu kwa sababu ya kufanya miradi kwa kutaka sifa bila kujipa muda wa kuufikiria mradi kwa undani

Ndii kila siku anajaribu kuwapa ukweli hawaaki! Unakuta lijitu lina-argue ohooo sijui mafuta sijui nn.. mafuta yenyewe mapipa chini ya 2000000 yanayoweza kuchimbwa

 

[joto la jiwe]

Ndii kila siku anajaribu kuwapa ukweli hawaaki! Unakuta lijitu lina-argue ohooo sijui mafuta sijui nn.. mafuta yenyewe mapipa chini ya 2000000 yanayoweza kuchimbwa

Mimi ninaona wana matatizo makubwa mawili,
1)Uwezo wao wa kufikiria sio mzuri sana, tatizo hili hata hapa Tanzania tunalo, kwa hiyo hatutofautiani sana katika hili
2)Wanasumbuliwa sana na ukabila na siasa za mirengo ya siasa ambayo mizizi yake ni ukabila, kiasi kwamba hata wenye uwezo wa kufikiria, wanakuwa affected na ukabila au uchama, kwa sababu Dr. NDII ni mfuasi wa NASA, basi hata aseme nini Jubilee hawawezi kumsikiliza, na kinyume chake, kwa hili la pili sisi huku tumewazidi sana