Magufuli, Museveni to lay oil pipeline foundation stone

[mulisaaa]

Kwa hivyo Tanzania is more developed than Kenya ati just because u are growing by 7%? Hata kama growth rate yenu ingekuwa 20% bado hamngefika 70 bn dollars ya KE according to IMF. But even for argument sake, tuseme Kenya ingekuwa na GDP sawa na Tanzania (let's say fifty something billion dollars) bado KE tungekuwa more developed kwa sababu tuko wachache compared to T.Z and therefore we would have a higher GDP per capita. Kenya na Ethiopia tunakaribiana kiGdp Lakini tumewashinda na mbali ikifika mambo ya GDP per capita kwa sababu wako wengi. Hata mkiwa na GDP kubwa kushinda KE it does NOT necessarily follow that you will have a bigger GDP per capita than KE. Tunaweza kuwa more developed than you Hata mkiwa na GDP kubwa kutushinda especially kama mko wengi.So growth rate is not an indicator of development however GDP per capita is.

Kwa hivyo Tanzania is more developed than Kenya ati just because u are growing by 7%? Hata kama growth rate yenu ingekuwa 20% bado hamngefika 70 bn dollars ya KE according to IMF. But even for argument sake, tuseme Kenya ingekuwa na GDP sawa na Tanzania (let's say fifty something billion dollars) bado KE tungekuwa more developed kwa sababu tuko wachache compared to T.Z and therefore we would have a higher GDP per capita. Kenya na Ethiopia tunakaribiana kiGdp Lakini tumewashinda na mbali ikifika mambo ya GDP per capita kwa sababu wako wengi. Hata mkiwa na GDP kubwa kushinda KE it does NOT necessarily follow that you will have a bigger GDP per capita than KE. Tunaweza kuwa more developed than you Hata mkiwa na GDP kubwa kutushinda especially kama mko wengi.So growth rate is not an indicator of development however GDP per capita is.

Watu wa Kenya na world bank wanajua kuwa GDP yenu iko cooked. Mnaongoza kwa viwanda vya kupika data

 

[Geza Ulole]

Am not talking of kigamboni bridge, am talking about a project you guys launched to build a new order city somewhere on the outskirts of dar..dont remember the details

There was no foundation stone laid in Kigamboni aside a Masterplan.

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[Geza Ulole]

Okay, with all those factors mentioned, why is the Uganda's oil mining more likely to break even than Kenya's, cos Uganda is also grappling with the similar challenges as Kenya's.

Somebody claimed that it is bcos Uganda has more proven oil reserves than Kenya's, tho true, I reject that reasoning.

Uganda has discovered over 6.5 bln barrels of proven recorvable oil reserves plus a safe n secured passage to Tanga. U must be kidding to compare urself to Uganda..

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[mulisaaa]

Wengi wetu tutapita tu kimya kimya kwasababu hakuna jipya hapa, dejavu kila siku ... Project ikitangazwa mnaanzisha mada na kutukana kila mtu... Vipi ile foundation stone ya bagamoyo? Kigamboni city je?
Lile jiwe (foundation stone) la SGR project yenu limeamza kumea mizizi , tumeshawazoea nyinyi, midomo bakuli, eti waziri mzima anasema "we hope residents will show up in large numbers ..." For what!!??? Laying of a ceremonial foundation stone?? Are you serious? Alika kila mtu baada ya kujenga mradi bana, watu wakija waone kitu kikianza kufanya kazi ..

Kwa taarifa yako SGR ilisha anza zamani sana. Ingia YouTube andika Rahco Millard Ayo. Utajionea progress hatuna maneno mengi. Hatu tengenezi reli inayo toa moshi kama mapipa ya changaa. Kitu nicha electrical.
Students compare and contrast.

 

[Pazii]

Kenya hawana uwezo wala kiburi cha kujenga bomba la mafuta with the proven reserves you have. Tullow hawana financial muscles wala uzoefu huo, hakuna mfanya biashara mwenye akili timamu atakubali kuweka pesa yake kwenye project which isn't economically viable.

Nyie endeleeni na siasa zenu za kuzalisha 2000barrels/ day na kusafirisha kwa tank ya mafuta tena kwenye barabara mbovu iliyojaa changamoto za usalama, this is the best you can kudanganya wakenya watapata petro dollars soon.

true. kwenya hawana uwezo huo hizo ni siasa za uhuru.

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[Geza Ulole]

Okay, with all those factors mentioned, why is the Uganda's oil mining more likely to break even than Kenya's, cos Uganda is also grappling with the similar challenges as Kenya's.

Somebody claimed that it is bcos Uganda has more proven oil reserves than Kenya's, tho true, I reject that reasoning.

BTW in proper English, oil is extracted n not mined.

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[mulisaaa]

Wengi wetu tutapita tu kimya kimya kwasababu hakuna jipya hapa, dejavu kila siku ... Project ikitangazwa mnaanzisha mada na kutukana kila mtu... Vipi ile foundation stone ya bagamoyo? Kigamboni city je?
Lile jiwe (foundation stone) la SGR project yenu limeamza kumea mizizi , tumeshawazoea nyinyi, midomo bakuli, eti waziri mzima anasema "we hope residents will show up in large numbers ..." For what!!??? Laying of a ceremonial foundation stone?? Are you serious? Alika kila mtu baada ya kujenga mradi bana, watu wakija waone kitu kikianza kufanya kazi ..

Kuhusu Bagamoyo port. Tumeamua tuanze na upanuzi na ukarabati wa bandari zilizopo. Pia wachina walitaka kuiendesha bandari kama wanavyoendesha SGR yenu tukaona tutapoteza kama tusipo imarisha bandari zetu kwanza.
Modernization and Expansion of Dar es salaam port. ( under construction )

 

[mulisaaa]

Liwe liwalo, bomba ya Kenya iko mbioni. Hamna jinsi nyingine ya kusafirisha mafuta yetu ila kwa njia ya bomba.

Kenya haikuwa na nia ya kukwamisha huo mradi wenyu wa reli, kama suggestion yetu ambayo ilikuwa bora zaidi ya kusafirisha mafuta kwa njia ya pipeline ndio ilihujumu huo mradi wenyu, poleni sana. But niko na feeling hiyo pipeline yenyu na Uganda huenda ukasambaratika.

Unaomba kisicho wezekana, ungeomba kwenye awamu ya Kikwete tungekuelewa lakini sio Magufuli. Mda simrefu nitafungulia Thread ya SGR, Dar es salaam port na Uganda Oil Pipeline.

 

[Iconoclastes]

BTW in proper English, oil is extracted n not mined.

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Oil is mined. It is being extracted from beneath the surface of the earth, right? The process of obtaining anything from the the bowels of earth, even water, is called mining.

Oil Mining, Subsurface

Mining Water


Oh, even gold, iron and those other solid minerals are extracted, I think it's called excavation. Liquid minerals are mined by drilling.

 

[Iconoclastes]

Kenya hawana uwezo wala kiburi cha kujenga bomba la mafuta with the proven reserves you have. Tullow hawana financial muscles wala uzoefu huo, hakuna mfanya biashara mwenye akili timamu atakubali kuweka pesa yake kwenye project which isn't economically viable.

Nyie endeleeni na siasa zenu za kuzalisha 2000barrels/ day na kusafirisha kwa tank ya mafuta tena kwenye barabara mbovu iliyojaa changamoto za usalama, this is the best you can kudanganya wakenya watapata petro dollars soon.

The proven reserves of 1,5bnbls is not good enuff?

 

[Iconoclastes]

Lenu halitajengwa kama economics is at play. Sisi bomba na reli vyote vinajengwa tena kwa gharama nafuu...na ndo chuki na wivu wenu unatokea hapo. Subiri Museveni atasema nn juu ya matumizi ya Tanga port maana wametengewa ardhi kwa ajili ya kujenga terminal. Na kuna reli ya Musoma-Arusha-Tanga,Tanzania inajua huu mchezo. Nakuhakikishia mizigo ya Uganda tunagawana na mkilogwa mpigane 08/08 basi hata hiyo reli yenu haitajengwa.

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Okay...let us wait and see.

 

[mtanzania1989]

The proven reserves of 1,5bnbls is not good enuff?

Hiyo 1.5bn barrels umeitoa wapi ? au unaleta data za Sammuel999 ?

 

[Mwanzi1]

Kwa hivyo Tanzania is more developed than Kenya ati just because u are growing by 7%? Hata kama growth rate yenu ingekuwa 20% bado hamngefika 70 bn dollars ya KE according to IMF. But even for argument sake, tuseme Kenya ingekuwa na GDP sawa na Tanzania (let's say fifty something billion dollars) bado KE tungekuwa more developed kwa sababu tuko wachache compared to T.Z and therefore we would have a higher GDP per capita. Kenya na Ethiopia tunakaribiana kiGdp Lakini tumewashinda na mbali ikifika mambo ya GDP per capita kwa sababu wako wengi. Hata mkiwa na GDP kubwa kushinda KE it does NOT necessarily follow that you will have a bigger GDP per capita than KE. Tunaweza kuwa more developed than you Hata mkiwa na GDP kubwa kutushinda especially kama mko wengi.So growth rate is not an indicator of development however GDP per capita is.

Hakuna mtu nakula GDP per capita, hiyo ni hesabu ya nchi hutoa muongozo wa kiuchumi. Sio wakenya wote wanalipwa $1500 kwa mwaka. Eti tunaweza kuwa mbali na developed hata kama mkiwa na GDP kubwa. Do you even know what your talking about, if that the case Kenya mgekuwa number one economy in the world.

 

[Mwanzi1]

Haha. La, mimi niwatroll bcos nilipogundua Jf, niliwapata mkitukejeli sana juu ya Mpeketoni na Westgate.

I am not jealous of Tanzania..I believe that Kenya is more advanced than Tanzania.

No. Iran hata haijaanza kuuza mafuta yake. Kuna sababu nyingine kabisa....kisasi cha biashara baina ya wazalishaji wakuu.

Kwa data kama hizi ndio mnasema Kenya is advanced to Tanzania? Even though that is Google data (not official) mkenya mwenzako anajidanganya.

Air Transport Contributes US$3.2bn per year to Kenya's GDP!

 

[Iconoclastes]

Hiyo 1.5bn barrels umeitoa wapi ? au unaleta data za Sammuel999 ?

Isnt 1bn or 1,2bn good enuff?

 

[Pazii]

Isnt 1bn or 1,2bn good enuff?

business is not politics friends. uhuru went to france to meet president hollande to favour Kenya instead of Tz. Hollande told him, this is all about business and not politics, so he could do nothing. UK is more like a politician. As an expert, I would advice you to do more exploration than wasting tax payers money in this project.

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[Geza Ulole]

Isnt 1bn or 1,2bn good enuff?

U have not more than 750m barrels of oil.

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[Coldest]

5 days remaining......

 

[IamLee]

Hehe kweli maskini akipata...
Was it necessary to troll on Kenya?
Was it even necessary posting this in the Kenyan forum in the first place?

Anyways
Kenya's crude could be priced higher than oil produced by some Arab states.
The Financial Standard can exclusively report that Kenya's crude grade ranks among the best in the world. This is according to preliminary tests carried by the Ministry of Energy and Petroleum and the companies that have been exploring oil in Turkana.
According to Ministry of Energy officials, preliminary oil tests by Government show it has low sulphur content and density, which means is sweet and light. The two – density and sulphur content – are among the key quality measures for crude.
It usually results in crude classified as light or heavy according to density, and sweet or sour depending on its sulphur content. Premium crude oils are usually light and sweet.
Tullow Oil, which has also tested the oil separately, said Kenyan crude is of high quality. It is likely to fetch a premium price once it hits the market.

 

[IamLee]

U have not more than 750m barrels of oil.

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I realized Geza only speaks of knowledge sourced from Google, you do no further research coz should know that that is just the capacity discovered in Ngamia 1 - 7 wells. In 2017 more oil have been discovered in Erut, Emekuya wells... More wells include Twiga, Etom, Ekales etc totalling to more than 20.
You should also be aware that you Kenya has been refining crude oil and exporting oil since the 70's so you won't be ahead in anything, meanwhile don't count the chicks before they hatch, if Bagamoyo didn't teach you a lesson enough i don't know what will