Mahakama ya Rufaa: Ukishindwa uchaguzi, shitaki mwenyewe

[EMT]

Siyo tuu kwamba Mahakama ya Rufaa imemrudisha Mh. Lema bungeni.

Bali pia kisheria, kuna kitu ambacho Mahakama ya Rufaa imekifanyia uamuzi.

Nacho ni kwamba kuanzia leo hakuna tena wagombea walioshindwa uchaguzi kujificha nyuma ya wapiga kura kufungua kesi mahakamani.

Mahakama ya Rufaa imesema wazi kuwa ukishindwa uchaguzi shitaki mwenyewe.

Mpiga kura akitaka kushitaki aonyeshe pilipili ambayo hajaila inamwashia nini.


Extract ya ruling yenyewe, thanks to Nyani Ngabu.

"In our case the issue for consideration and decision is whether or not a registered voter under section 111(1)(a) of the Act has an absolute right to challenge the election result even where his rights were not infringed. We have given a deep thought to the matter. First, we wish to point out that election petitions are not in our view public interest litigation though they are matters of great public importance. This is because the relief sought would not benefit the entire society as a whole. Second the petition was not brought under Article 26(2) of the Constitution which permits any person to bring a public interest litigation. The Article provides:-

26(2) Every person is entitled, subject to the procedure provided for by the law, to institute proceedings for the protection of the constitution and legality.

Since an election petition is not a public interest litigation we do not read the section to have done away with the rule of locus standi. We think in our view, section 111(1)(a) of the Act give rights to registered voter whose rights to vote have been interfered with or violated. In case violation effects the candidate it is for the candidate to challenge the election because his rights were violated. To give the section a broader interpretation that he has an absolute right to petition even where his rights were not interfered with is to defeat the well established principle of law of locus standi and indeed it does not sound well. We are not prepared to do so. We entirely agree with Mr. Vitalis, Mr. Kimogomoro and Mr. Lissu on the issue of standing of a registered voter.

In view of the above finding we are of the settled mind that Mgonja Case was wrongly decided on the question of locus standi. This is because we don't think that the legislature intended to say for example any voter irrespective of the place where he had registered and voted can challenge any election results in any constituency in the country. That is absurd. The statute must be construed to make it effective and workable."


[video=youtube_share;MbRCCUPbltM]http://youtu.be/MbRCCUPbltM[/video]

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Inazungumziwa hapa kwenye finding ya leo....

In our case the issue for consideration and decision is whether or not a
registered voter under section 111(1)(a) of the Act has an absolute right to
challenge the election result even where his rights were not infringed. We
have given a deep thought to the matter. First, we wish to point out that
election petitions are not in our view public interest litigation though they
are matters of great public importance. This is because the relief sought
would not benefit the entire society as a whole. Second the petition was
not brought under Article 26(2) of the Constitution which permits any
person to bring a public interest litigation. The Article provides:-

26(2) Every person is entitled, subject to the
procedure provided for by the law, to institute
proceedings for the protection of the constitution
and legality.

Since an election petition is not a public interest litigation we do not read
the section to have done away with the rule of locus standi. We think in
our view, section 111(1)(a) of the Act give rights to registered voter whose
rights to vote have been interfered with or violated. In case violation
effects the candidate it is for the candidate to challenge the election
because his rights were violated. To give the section a broader
interpretation that he has an absolute right to petition even where his
rights were not interfered with is to defeat the well established principle of
law of locus standi and indeed it does not sound well. We are not
prepared to do so. We entirely agree with Mr. Vitalis, Mr. Kimogomoro and
Mr. Lissu on the issue of standing of a registered voter. In view of the
above finding we are of the settled mind that Mgonja Case was wrongly
decided on the question of locus standi. This is because we don't think
that the legislature intended to say for example any voter irrespective of
the place where he had registered and voted can challenge any election
results in any constituency in the country. That is absurd. The statute
must be construed to make it effective and workable

 

[Dark City]

Kwa mujibu wa Mh. Tundu Lissu, siyo tuu kwamba Mahakama ya Rufaa imemrudisha Mh. Lema bungeni.

Bali pia kisheria, kuna kitu ambacho Mahakama ya Rufaa imekifanyia uamuzi.

Nacho ni kwamba kuanzia leo hakuna tena wagombea walioshindwa uchaguzi kujificha nyuma ya wapiga kura kwa kufungua kesi mahakamani.

Mahakama ya Rufaa imesema wazi kuwa ukishindwa uchaguzi shitaki mwenyewe.

Mpiga kura akitaka kushitaki aonyeshe pilipili ambayo hajaila inamwashia nini.

Safi sana,

Hii itapunguza tatizo la watu kununuliwa ili wawasumbue wenzao. Halafu pressure zisizo na mpangilio kutoka makao makuu ya chama zitakoma.


Nakumbuka kwamba Makamba aliagiza kuwa wote walioshindwa uchaguzi wafungue kesi na CCM itagharimia, nadhani wale ambao hawakutaka kujiingiza kwenye huo upuuzi ndio walijikuta katika hali kama hii ya Lema.

 

[EMT]

Inazungumziwa hapa kwenye finding ya leo....

Thanks Mkuu. Ngoja niiweke hapo juu. Nipe link ya huku yenyewe please.

It took the CA only 20 minutes to deliver its verdict.

 

[The Boss]

EMT NASUBIRI MAONI YAKO..
mahakama iko sahihi????????

 

[Father of All]

Bi Batilda apwasa kusoma hukumu ya leo kwa makini. Na asifanye kosa akakurupuka kufungua kesi kwa vile mahakama imesema. Acha Lema aitwe jembe.

Kwa mujibu wa Mh. Tundu Lissu, siyo tuu kwamba Mahakama ya Rufaa imemrudisha Mh. Lema bungeni.

Bali pia kisheria, kuna kitu ambacho Mahakama ya Rufaa imekifanyia uamuzi.

Nacho ni kwamba kuanzia leo hakuna tena wagombea walioshindwa uchaguzi kujificha nyuma ya wapiga kura kwa kufungua kesi mahakamani.

Mahakama ya Rufaa imesema wazi kuwa ukishindwa uchaguzi shitaki mwenyewe.

Mpiga kura akitaka kushitaki aonyeshe pilipili ambayo hajaila inamwashia nini.

 

[Azimio Jipya]

...Bali pia kisheria, kuna kitu ambacho Mahakama ya Rufaa imekifanyia uamuzi. Nacho ni kwamba kuanzia leo hakuna tena wagombea walioshindwa uchaguzi kujificha nyuma ya wapiga kura kwa kufungua kesi mahakamani....

EMT,

... Hii haikuwepo hapo awali .. "kwa vile unasema ..kuanzia leo"
... Kwa nini hapo awali kanuni hiyo ilikuwa valid and not now!!!
... Misukumo gani inapelekea kubadilisha hoja kama hizo!!

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

I always say law is maddeningly subjective. Take a peek at the wording used in the judges' finding today....

" We think in our view"

"In view of the above finding we are of the settled mind that Mgonja Case was wrongly decided on the question of locus standi."

"This is because we don't think that the legislature intended to say for example any voter irrespective of the place where he had registered and voted can challenge any election results in any constituency in the country."

 

[EMT]

EMT NASUBIRI MAONI YAKO..
mahakama iko sahihi????????

Nilisema tokea mwanzo kuwa hata mwanafunzi wa sheria mwaka wa pili angeamua hii kesi.

Mahakama ya Rufaa imetumia kama dakika 20 tuu kuamua hii kesi.

Probably ndiyo maana hata Jaji Mkuu alijitoa.

kwa maoni yangu Mahakama ya Rufaa iko sahihi kabisa.

Ili uweze kumshtakaki mtu lazima uwe na na locus standi.

Siiwezi kukutukana wewe halafu, Dark City aje kunishtaki mimi kisa eti ameudhiwa.

Na kukutukana wewe is not a matter of public interest, unless niwatukane Watanzania wote.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Thanks Mkuu. Ngoja niiweke hapo juu. Nipe link ya huku yenyewe please.

It took the CA only 20 minutes to deliver its verdict.

Kuna mdau kaitundika hapa tayari.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Nilisema tokea mwanzo kuwa hata mwanafunzi wa sheria mwaka wa pili angeamua hii kesi.

Mahakama ya Rufaa imetumia kama dakika 20 tuu kuamua hii kesi.

Probably ndiyo maana hata Jaji Mkuu alijitoa.

kwa maoni yangu Mahakama ya Rufaa iko sahihi kabisa.

Ili uweze kumshtakaki mtu lazima uwe na na locus standi.

Siiwezi kukutukana wewe halafu, Dark City aje kunishtaki mimi kisa eti ameudhiwa.

Na kukutukana wewe is not a matter of public interest, unless niwatukane Watanzania wote.

Hopefully hii finding itapunguza frivolous lawsuits.

 

[engmtolera]

hahahahahaha
haya ndiyo maajabu ya musa,yaani nikishindwa uchaguzi na mtuma mke wangu anaenda kushitaki na napewa ushindi,hii dunia ni ya ajabu,mahakama za kibongo bwana ni rushwa mtindo mmoja na ndio maana yule mama wa ki UK alipeleka shauri lake UK na akapata ushindi,hivi ni lini hawa mahakimu njaa wataisha tanzania?

 

[The Boss]

Nilisema tokea mwanzo kuwa hata mwanafunzi wa sheria mwaka wa pili angeamua hii kesi.

Mahakama ya Rufaa imetumia kama dakika 20 tuu kuamua hii kesi.

Probably ndiyo maana hata Jaji Mkuu alijitoa.

kwa maoni yangu Mahakama ya Rufaa iko sahihi kabisa.

Ili uweze kumshtakaki mtu lazima uwe na na locus standi.

Siiwezi kukutukana wewe halafu, Dark City aje kunishtaki mimi kisa eti ameudhiwa.

Na kukutukana wewe is not a matter of public interest, unless niwatukane Watanzania wote.

Nikuulize swali..
kwani hii ya 'pili pili iko shamba yakuwashia nini' ina apply kwenye kesi zoote?

je kama kesi ingekuwa udanganyifu wa kura au idadi ya kura na waliofungua ni watu wengine?

au 'tusi ' na 'sio tusi' ni suala binafsi?

mahakama haiwezi kuamua yapi ni matusi na yapi sio matusi kwenye uchaguzi?

kuwa na mbunge alievunja kanuni za uchaguzi sio 'public interest'?

Naauliza kisheria.....sio kama napinga au kuunga mkono....hii kesi
nataka tu maelezo ya kisheria..

 

[EMT]

EMT,

... Hii haikuwepo hapo awali .. "kwa vile unasema ..kuanzia leo"
... Kwa nini hapo awali kanuni hiyo ilikuwa valid and not now!!!
... Misukumo gani inapelekea kubadilisha hoja kama hizo!!

Yes, kwanza kwa sababu hicho kifungu tokea kipitishwe na bunge kilikuwa hakijawi kuwa interpreted na mahakama.

Mahakama Kuu ilipata nafasi ya ku-interpret hicho kifungu, but interpreted it very broadly.

Leo Mahakama Kuu imesema that provision should be interpreted strictly.

Kuhusu ni msukumo gani umepelekea kubadilisha hukumu ya Mahakama, I am not going to get into politics on this.

But kisheria, the Court of Appeal did not think that in enacting the provision, "the legislature intended to say for example any voter irrespective of the place where he had registered and voted can challenge any election results in any constituency in the country."

This is all to do with statutory interpretation when the judges try to get into the minds of the legislature to find out their intention when enacting the law. How they do this is a mystery to me.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Nikuulize swali..
kwani hii ya 'pili pili iko shamba yakuwashia nini' ina apply kwenye kesi zoote?

je kama kesi ingekuwa udanganyifu wa kura au idadi ya kura na waliofungua ni watu wengine?

au 'tusi ' na 'sio tusi' ni suala binafsi?

mahakama haiwezi kuamua yapi ni matusi na yapi sio matusi kwenye uchaguzi?

kuwa na mbunge alievunja kanuni za uchaguzi sio 'public interest'?

Naauliza kisheria.....sio kama napinga au kuunga mkono....hii kesi
nataka tu maelezo ya kisheria..

Bossman, hii hukumu ni maoni tu ya hao majaji wa mahakama ya rufaa walioisikiliza na kuitolea uamuzi.

Mtu mwingine anaweza akawa na maoni kinyume kabisa na ya hao majaji watatu na akajenga hoja kuwa kuvunja kanuni za uchaguzi ni jambo lenye maslahi kwa umma.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

This is all to do with statutory interpretation when the judges try to get into the minds of the legislature to find out their intention when enacting the law. How they do this is a mystery to me.

Classic!

 

[EMT]

Kuna mdau kaitundika hapa tayari.

thanks.

 

[The Boss]

Bossman, hii hukumu ni maoni tu ya hao majaji wa mahakama ya rufaa walioisikiliza na kuitolea uamuzi.

Mtu mwingine anaweza akawa na maoni kinyume kabisa na ya hao majaji watatu na akajenga hoja kuwa kuvunja kanuni za uchaguzi ni jambo lenye maslahi kwa umma.

Asante NN
na mimi nilifikiri hivyo hivyo
na nilifikiri EMT angeliona hili...

 

[EMT]

Hopefully hii finding itapunguza frivolous lawsuits.

I hope it will. But the Legislature can still overrule this decision by enacting a new law to the contrary. Parliamentary supremacy. Unakumbuka ile kesi ya Mtikila na suala zima la mgombea binafsi? Mpaka Mwalimu Nyerere akasema:

"Unaomba ubunge au chochote kile upigiwe kura na hata urais, ni haki yako ya uraia. Huwezi kunyimwa. Maadam wewe ni raia wa Tanzania kisiasa una haki ya kuomba uwe rais.

Ukiwa katika chama ama haupo katika chama. Unayo haki inayotokana na uraia wako ya kupiga kura na ya kupigiwa kura ambayo haiwezi kudaiwa na mtu ambaye si raia waTanzania…Sasa sheria inawanyima raia wa Tanzania haki hiyo.

Mwalimu akaendelea, "Mtu mmoja [Mchungaji Mtikila] akaenda mahakamani kudai haki hiyo akasema sheria hii si haki, jaji mmoja akahukumu akasema naam, si haki. Haki hii iko katika katiba. Sasa serikali wakafanyaje? Badala ya kukubali uamuzi wa jaji, kwa kweli walichokifanya ni kuifuta."

 

[Azimio Jipya]

Asante NN
na mimi nilifikiri hivyo hivyo
na nilifikiri EMT angeliona hili...

The Boss ... I wish EMT alione jambo hilo!
Kuna consistency na shindwa kabisa kuipata!! Maybe you must be realy professional on this field!!