Adiosamigo
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You must be brain-dead. A simple point of care was put to you and you started meandering.
You must be brain-dead. A simple point of care was put to you and you started meandering.Whether you're a theist, deist or non theist, pointless is pointless. Use it as an addendum, but at least edit your OP to give us something to debate.
I am God, there is no god but Me, therefore you shall worship Me and observe the Salat to commemorate Me." 20:14You did not prove anything. I can debate on the existence of this "fairytale Allah of diabolical Islam" 1stly :| its not real. Allah is fictitious and bogus. Allah never say in the Quran that he is God, inter-alia, Muhammad never say he is a prophet of God. What a fiendish cult of Jibril.
We all know it was Jibril who supposedly gave those verses to Muhammad. So, Jibril is saying to Muhammad "I am God, there is no god but me""I am God, there is no god but Me, therefore you shall worship Me and observe the Salat to commemorate Me." 20:14
So, here Muhammad is asked to say he is a warner and not a prophet. Very sad to know that you guys are following a warner and not a prophet."Say (O Muhammad), "I am not different from other messengers. I have no idea what will happen to me or to you. I only follow what is revealed to me (Quran). I am no more than a profound warner." 46:9 (also in 10:15).
Bogus reply.You must be brain-dead. A simple point of care was put to you and you started meandering.
When you use weed and you are under influence of controlled substance, please don't come to thinkers.
When you use weed and you are under influence of controlled substance, please don't come to thinkers.
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God spoke through The Holy Spirit to Jesus right? Who is The Holy Spirit? Christians don't even know who is the Holy Spirit?We all know it was Jibril who supposedly gave those verses to Muhammad. So, Jibril is saying to Muhammad "I am God, there is no god but me"
Huu ni msiba kwako.
So, here Muhammad is asked to say he is a warner and not a prophet. Very sad to know that you guys are following a warner and not a prophet.
Can you show me a verse - "Muhammad is saying/repeating these words"?
God spoke through The Holy Spirit to Jesus right? Who is The Holy Spirit? Christians don't even know who is the Holy Spirit?We all know it was Jibril who supposedly gave those verses to Muhammad. So, Jibril is saying to Muhammad "I am God, there is no god but me"
Huu ni msiba kwako.
So, here Muhammad is asked to say he is a warner and not a prophet. Very sad to know that you guys are following a warner and not a prophet.
Can you show me a verse - "Muhammad is saying/repeating these words"?
Nilikuwa nataka kuanza kuielezea concept ya Trinity yaani utatu mtakatifu lakini umeniambia huko nyuma ya kwamba unaifahamu kuhusiana na uungu, na uanielewa vizuri Biblia inatufundisha hivi
Matendo 17:29 Basi, kwa kuwa sisi tu wazao wa Mungu, haitupasi kudhani ya kuwa Uungu ni mfano wa dhahabu au fedha au jiwe, vitu vilivyochongwa kwa ustadi na akili za wanadamu.
Halafu bwana Yesu akatufundisha hivi
Mathayo 28:19 Basi, enendeni, mkawafanye mataifa yote kuwa wanafunzi, mkiwabatiza kwa jina la Baba, na Mwana, na Roho Mtakatifu;
Katika hilo fungu la Mathayo hali hizo tatu ndio utimilifu au ukamilifu wa Mungu mmoja,
Zaburi 89:26 Yeye ataniita, Wewe baba yangu, Mungu wangu na mwamba wa wokovu wangu.
Warumi 9:5 ambao mababu ni wao, na katika hao alitoka Kristo kwa jinsi ya mwili. Ndiye aliye juu ya mambo yote, Mungu, mwenye kuhimidiwa milele. Amina.
Mungu mwana ndiye ambaye kwake yeye ulimwengu uliumbwa
Waebrania 1:2 mwisho wa siku hizi amesema na sisi katika Mwana, aliyemweka kuwa mrithi wa yote, tena kwa yeye aliufanya ulimwengu.
kwa hiyo kwa maana nyingine Yesu ni neno la Mungu, hili ni kati ya somo gumu kwasababu najua nizalisha maswali mengi kwa mfano watu wataanza kuuliza Kwanini basi Yesu anaongea mwenyewe kuhusu yeye mwenyewe kwenda kwa baba yake na Mungu wake (Yohana 20:17)? kwanini anamwomba Baba kama Mungu wake(Yohana 17:1, Mathayo 27:46)? Kwanini anasema kwamba Baba ni Mkuu kuliko alivyo yeye(Yohana 14:28) kama Yesu mwenyewe ni Mungu(Yohana 1:1)?
Hayo maswali nimeyajibu huko kwenye concept ya Incarnation nikajaribu kukupa na vifungu vichache, japokuwa najua hadi kwasasa hivi unakataa, lakini aina mbaya kwasababu umeniambia Trinity unaielewa vizuri ngojea nijibu swali lako, lililobaki hapa chini
Hapo nilipoweka red alichukuliwa na Mungu Baba
1 Wathesalonike 1:10 na kumngojea Mwanawe kutoka mbinguni, ambaye alimfufua katika wafu, naye ni Yesu, mwenye kutuokoa na ghadhabu itakayokuja.
Hapo nilipoweka blue nimekwisha lielezea, ila angalia hii Timotheo
1 Timotheo 3:16 Na bila shaka siri ya utauwa ni kuu. Mungu alidhihirishwa katika mwili, Akajulika kuwa na haki katika roho, Akaonekana na malaika, Akahubiriwa katika mataifa, Akaaminiwa katika ulimwengu, Akachukuliwa juu katika utukufu.
Hapo nilipoweka purple nimekwisha elezea, labda na mimi nikuulize swali, naweka hapa chini aya ya Qurani halafu nakuuliza swali
Qurani 19:17 Na akaweka pazia kujikinga nao. Tukampelekea Roho wetu, akajifananisha kwake sawa na mtu.
Sasa Mashaxizo kulingana na hiyo aya Jibril aliweza kuwa na sura ya mwanaadamu kamili na wewe unapinga concept ya God Incarnate
Swali: Ikiwa Malaika aliweza kujifananisha na kuwa mtu je Mungu hawezi? Malaika na Mungu nani ana uwezo zaidi!?
Sidhani kama kulikuwa na Gabriel kwasababu Gabriel sio omnipresent... Kuna swali jingine nimejiuliza sasa hivi kutokana na hilo swali lako nalo ni hili hivi yule malaika Israel mnayesema ni mtoa roho anawezaje kutoa roho za watu hata lakimoja kwa sekunde moja!? tena sehemu tofauti tofauti duniani...Mungu anaweza na anauwezo kuliko malaika.
Lakini jee, unataka kusema wakati Gabriel kajigeuza mtu kulikua na Gabriel mwengine huko juu?
Mkuu wa chuo nahisi ungenipa nafasi ya kuthibisha kwamba bible imechakachuliwa, ili tumalize huu mjadala.
Bogus commentary from a Muhammadan.God spoke through The Holy Spirit to Jesus right? Who is The Holy Spirit? Christians don't even know who is the Holy Spirit?
The Angel Gabriel Spoke to Mary
What about that...Gabriel told Mary that she is going to have a baby, and to call him Jesus. Also that Elizabeth her cousin is six months pregnant.
You are wrong.Gabriel in Hebrew means: GOD is mighty. Luke 1:19English Standard Version (ESV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]And the angel answered him, "I am Gabriel. I stand in the presence of God, and I was sent to speak to you and to bring you this good news.
Sidhani kama kulikuwa na Gabriel kwasababu Gabriel sio omnipresent... Kuna swali jingine nimejiuliza sasa hivi kutokana na hilo swali lako nalo ni hili hivi yule malaika Israel mnayesema ni mtoa roho anawezaje kutoa roho za watu hata lakimoja kwa sekunde moja!? tena sehemu tofauti tofauti duniani...
Mashaxizo unaweza ukaendelea kuthibitisha baada ya kuthibitisha tuonyeshe njia... halafu tutapata na nafasi ya kukuuliza maswali tujiridhishe... au tutakuwa tunakuuliza maswali ukiwa unathibitisha
Mimi naona Yesu anauwezo zaidi ya Malaika...Malaika anaweza, uwezo wa malaika ni tofauti na mwanadamu.
Hoja ni kwamba ulisema Mungu ni mmoja unapinga wanaokwambia ninyi mna waungu watatu, na ukasema yesu ni Mungu, wakati huo huo ukasema akachukuliwa akapelekwa mbinguni.
Mkuu wa chuo tukubali kutokubaliana hapo.
Baada ya kuthibitisha, utafanya critical analysis then utauliza hayo maswali.
Gabriel comes from the verb גבר (gabar), meaning to be mighty.You are wrong.
Gabriel in Hebrews means "strong man of God" and not what you said.
Meaning of "Gabriel"Gabriel comes from the verb גבר (gabar), meaning to be mighty.
The name Gabriel in the Bible
Gabriel himself submits that he stands in the presence of the Lord (Luke 1:19),
Etymology of the name Gabriel; The name Gabriel consists of two parts. The final bit is אל (El), the abbreviated form of אלהים, Elohim, the genus God:
Gabriel himself submits that he stands in the presence of the Lord (Luke 1:19). When translating names that contain the segment אל ('el), it usually refers to אלהים ('elohim), that is Elohim, or God, also known as אלה ('eloah). Ndio sababu mna yule God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit(Gabriel).
Not true. Angles can not cast out demons, in contrast, humans can cast out demons. Angles can not pray for the sick, in contrast, humans can. Angles are not created in God,s image, to witMalaika anaweza, uwezo wa malaika ni tofauti na mwanadamu.
One of His follower said [h=3]John 20:28 Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"[/h]Hoja ni kwamba ulisema Mungu ni mmoja unapinga wanaokwambia ninyi mna waungu watatu, na ukasema yesu ni Mungu, wakati huo huo ukasema akachukuliwa akapelekwa mbinguni.
You like to complicate thing, OK let go step by step here. Psalm 46 King James Version (KJV) 46 God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.You are wrong.
Gabriel in Hebrews means "strong man of God" and not what you said.
Jesus is called "god" in the Bible? Yes, and so are Satan, Mosses, the spiritual leaders of Israel, and pagan deities:A S wink:One of His follower said John 20:28 Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"
Jesus did not refuse to be called GOD, BUT AGREED.