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We sio lizabon kweli😂😂😂
We sio lizabon kweli😂😂😂Mmezoea majibu ya kinafiki ya kuzungukazunguka...!!?
Hiyo reply kiboko, imemuacha mtu mtupu, ukisikia mtu anavuliwa ngua hadharani kwa ujuha wake ndio hii.Majibu
Responding to the Embassy of Tanzania’s Note Verbale dated 25 November 2025.
1. “The Government is concerned the EU did not give it an opportunity to present its side.”
Rebuttal:
A government that shuts down domestic media, censors all journalism about the October 29–Nov 3 killings, blocks observers, and arrests witnesses cannot claim it is being denied an opportunity to speak. The EU hearing exists precisely because Tanzania has refused to allow free reporting or independent investigations internally.
What the government calls “not given an opportunity” is actually:
•victims not being allowed to speak,
•civil society being threatened,
•opposition leaders being detained, and
•state machinery blocking truth-finding.
The EU cannot wait for a regime that is actively suppressing evidence.
2. “Proceeding without Tanzania’s views is inconsistent with the Cotonou Agreement and partnership dialogue.”
Rebuttal:
The Cotonou/OACPS–EU framework does not oblige the @EUinTZ to seek permission from a state before condemning killings or human rights violations. Dialogue is not a shield against accountability.
The government selectively quotes “dialogue” while ignoring:
•human rights clauses of the same agreement,
•obligations to prevent killings,
•obligations to protect political rights,
•the fact that dialogue does not supersede fundamental rights.
Th @EU_Commission is fully within its legal and moral mandate to deliberate on mass atrocities without waiting for perpetrators to dictate the schedule.
3. “Natural justice requires hearing both sides before conclusions are drawn.”
Rebuttal:
Natural justice begins at home. If Tanzania respected this principle:
•protesters would not have been shot,
•detainees would not be held incommunicado,
•@TunduALissu would not be isolated under CCTV surveillance,
•journalists would not be threatened,
•families of victims would not be denied information about their loved ones.
A government committing violations cannot invoke “natural justice” only when facing international scrutiny, while denying the same rights to its own citizens.
4. “The EU risks relying on unverified and one-sided narratives.”
Rebuttal:
This claim collapses instantly under scrutiny.
The evidence of abuses is:
•video-recorded,
•geo-verified,
•documented by hospitals treating gunshot victims,
•supported by eyewitnesses,
•corroborated by international organizations,
•acknowledged even by government insiders who have fled.
The only “unverified narrative” is the government’s shifting explanations, including:
•denying deaths,
•then admitting casualties,
•then blaming “outsiders”,
•then blaming “opposition incitement”,
•then claiming “no protests were authorized”.
None of these contradictions discredit the documented facts of killings.
5. “Tanzania has established a National Commission of Enquiry.”
Rebuttal:
The government is asking the world to trust a Commission that:
•has no publicly released terms of reference,
•is not independent of the Executive,
•excludes victims, opposition, civil society, and independent observers,
•lacks transparency,
•has historically been used to bury cases.
Calling this Commission “independent” is misleading. It is not credible by international standards (UN, AU, ACHPR) and cannot replace an impartial investigation.
6. “Tanzania remains committed to democracy, human rights, and the rule of law.”
Rebuttal:
Actions matter more than words.
No democratic government:
•shoots unarmed civilians,
•detains elected leaders for political reasons,
•blocks opposition rallies nationwide,
•manipulates the media through threats,
•invokes cybercrime laws to arrest group admins,
•shuts down the internet during political crises.
Commitment to human rights cannot coexist with extrajudicial killings and systematic repression.
This statement is diplomatic theatre, not reality.
nywiinywii Naunga mkono hoja. Ila da katuharibia nchi sn, itachukua muda na jasho kujengaWazungu nao wamewajibu kibabe hadi rahaaa.. Unafungia mitandao. Unakandamiza vyombo vya habari unataka ww tukusikilize 😀😀😀Wazungu kabieni hapo hapo kwa juu mpaka manyonyo atoe mlio
Hicho kichwa chako kina faida gani ???EU inaihitaji Tanzania kuliko Tanzania inavyoihitaji EU.
Hakika, ni kweli..Kwa muda niliofanya kazi na wazungu
Hao ni watu ambao hawayumishwi.
Mzungu na msimamo.
Mzungu anapenda haki za binadamu kuliko hata pesa.
Hapa Kizimkazi kazi anayo.
Mzungu akukomalia anahakikisha unakamatikatika
This rebuttal is overwhelming. The idiots running the government are too dumb to formulate a meaningful rejoinder to overcome it!Majibu
Responding to the Embassy of Tanzania’s Note Verbale dated 25 November 2025.
1. “The Government is concerned the EU did not give it an opportunity to present its side.”
Rebuttal:
A government that shuts down domestic media, censors all journalism about the October 29–Nov 3 killings, blocks observers, and arrests witnesses cannot claim it is being denied an opportunity to speak. The EU hearing exists precisely because Tanzania has refused to allow free reporting or independent investigations internally.
What the government calls “not given an opportunity” is actually:
•victims not being allowed to speak,
•civil society being threatened,
•opposition leaders being detained, and
•state machinery blocking truth-finding.
The EU cannot wait for a regime that is actively suppressing evidence.
2. “Proceeding without Tanzania’s views is inconsistent with the Cotonou Agreement and partnership dialogue.”
Rebuttal:
The Cotonou/OACPS–EU framework does not oblige the @EUinTZ to seek permission from a state before condemning killings or human rights violations. Dialogue is not a shield against accountability.
The government selectively quotes “dialogue” while ignoring:
•human rights clauses of the same agreement,
•obligations to prevent killings,
•obligations to protect political rights,
•the fact that dialogue does not supersede fundamental rights.
Th @EU_Commission is fully within its legal and moral mandate to deliberate on mass atrocities without waiting for perpetrators to dictate the schedule.
3. “Natural justice requires hearing both sides before conclusions are drawn.”
Rebuttal:
Natural justice begins at home. If Tanzania respected this principle:
•protesters would not have been shot,
•detainees would not be held incommunicado,
•@TunduALissu would not be isolated under CCTV surveillance,
•journalists would not be threatened,
•families of victims would not be denied information about their loved ones.
A government committing violations cannot invoke “natural justice” only when facing international scrutiny, while denying the same rights to its own citizens.
4. “The EU risks relying on unverified and one-sided narratives.”
Rebuttal:
This claim collapses instantly under scrutiny.
The evidence of abuses is:
•video-recorded,
•geo-verified,
•documented by hospitals treating gunshot victims,
•supported by eyewitnesses,
•corroborated by international organizations,
•acknowledged even by government insiders who have fled.
The only “unverified narrative” is the government’s shifting explanations, including:
•denying deaths,
•then admitting casualties,
•then blaming “outsiders”,
•then blaming “opposition incitement”,
•then claiming “no protests were authorized”.
None of these contradictions discredit the documented facts of killings.
5. “Tanzania has established a National Commission of Enquiry.”
Rebuttal:
The government is asking the world to trust a Commission that:
•has no publicly released terms of reference,
•is not independent of the Executive,
•excludes victims, opposition, civil society, and independent observers,
•lacks transparency,
•has historically been used to bury cases.
Calling this Commission “independent” is misleading. It is not credible by international standards (UN, AU, ACHPR) and cannot replace an impartial investigation.
6. “Tanzania remains committed to democracy, human rights, and the rule of law.”
Rebuttal:
Actions matter more than words.
No democratic government:
•shoots unarmed civilians,
•detains elected leaders for political reasons,
•blocks opposition rallies nationwide,
•manipulates the media through threats,
•invokes cybercrime laws to arrest group admins,
•shuts down the internet during political crises.
Commitment to human rights cannot coexist with extrajudicial killings and systematic repression.
This statement is diplomatic theatre, not reality.
Mapesa ya nchi waliyojikwapulia ndio yanafanya wawe manunda, wako tayari kufanya lolote mradi wasipokonywe tongue mdomoniIla hawa CCM ni watu wasiotaka kabisa kuukubali ukweli na ku-act, hizi propaganda na uongo hautawasaidia kwa chochote na wananchi wengi wanazidi kuwakataa kwa speed kubwa sana
Natamani ajibu maswali haya Lucas.Leo serikali ya Samia inaona Haki ya kusikilizwa ni MHIMU ilihali wananchi wake haiwapi haki hiyo?
Kwa hiyo tueleweje sasa, Haki ndo inaleta Amani au Amani inaleta Haki?
Machawa na walamba maka.lio wengine humo serikali i😆😆😆, eti 'mama hana deni' kunakuwaga na vimisemo vya kupumbaf sana, sijui nani huwa anaviasisi!
Wote waliofanikiwa kurekodi video ni mashujaa wa nchi yetu.Haikuwa rahisi kuchukua picha huku unakimbia kuokoa maisha yako.Bila hizi picha tusingekuwa na ushahidi wowote.Ndugu zetu waliouwawa wangepoteza haki zao.Hakika tunawashukuru, history will honor you.4. “The EU risks relying on unverified and one-sided narratives.”
Rebuttal:
This claim collapses instantly under scrutiny.
The evidence of abuses is:
•video-recorded,
•geo-verified,
•documented by hospitals treating gunshot victims,
•supported by eyewitnesses,
•corroborated by international organizations,
•acknowledged even by government insiders who have fled.
Hao wengi wao vichwani ni watupu kabisa! Wanachoweza ni uchawa na kujipendekeza...watu aina ya lissu ndio wenye Iq ya kuweza kubattle na wazungu na wakatoana jasho!😀Eu inasema haiwezi kusubiri wahuni
Tunawaambia kila siku hawa mnaoita sijui diplomats au wanasheria wa serikali wakienda kimataifa wananyolewa kwa chupa, ona sasa wanavyoaibika kwa majibu haya😀
Ohoo!! Mimi nilidhani bado anaupiga mwingi, kumbe wimbo umeshabadilika!nywiinywii Naunga mkono hoja. Ila da katuharibia nchi sn, itachukua muda na jasho kujenga
WAMESHAJITETEA
WANAJITETEA AS WE SPEAK
WASHASIKIKA
Waziri Mkuu Mwigulu kasema kiini cha tatizo ni wivu wa treni.
Reli ya Dar - Dodoma inawatia wazimu watu wa dunia. Tena haitumii dizeli. Ni ya umeme.
Na nyongo nyingine tumegundua Nickel, Uranium na gesi. Dunia hailali, imejawa gubu na wivu mkali.
Na kulinda hizi mali mtafanya lolote kwa gharama yoyote.
Nini sasa cha utetezi bado hawajakisikia ???
KabisaHao wengi wao vichwani ni watupu kabisa! Wanachoweza ni uchawa na kujipendekeza...watu aina ya lissu ndio wenye Iq ya kuweza kubattle na wazungu na wakatoana jasho!