Mh, dhambi ya Uroda.....

[Kiranga]

There is no god, and Kiranga is his prophet. --Hii inamanisha nini kwa kiswahili Ndg Kiranga?.

Hii inamaanisha Kiranga ni kuhani asiyeamini mungu, anaeneza ukweli kwamba mungu hayupo.Na siyo kwamba amenda likizo au kalala uingizi au kafa, hajawahi kuwepo, hayupo na hatakuja kuwepo.

 

[Amwanga]

Ukishaongea imani unaweza kuongea chochote kile, mi nataka facts, testable tangible observable facts.

Imani uanweza kuamini mungu anakaa misitu ya Kongo, poa tu kivyako.Ukitaka kuleta kama fact that is another matter.

Umekuja nilipopataka, na nilijua utakuja hapo ndo maana nikaanza kusema I can prove to you through facts, and the following are among the facts regarding your questions( tangible, observable, n.k.)
First of all be informed that not all non tangible, testless, and un-observable things do not exist. I am sure every one is aware about force, and if ask one will tell you there is a force thus why a flight take off, but if ask him can you observe, touch the force no one will tell you that he see/saw it by his/her eyes , no one had touch it or test it through five organs, but it is a force, which implies that, there are other organ that can prove existance of the force!!!!!!!! Like wise other organs are week to prove existance of the force. Similarly, the existence of god can be proved by organs other than what you forementioned as facts to prove his existence.

This is just one example to demostrate you that God do exist mzeeeee.

 

[ngoshwe]

Hii inamaanisha Kiranga ni kuhani asiyeamini mungu, anaeneza ukweli kwamba mungu hayupo.Na siyo kwamba amenda likizo au kalala uingizi au kafa, hajawahi kuwepo, hayupo na hatakuja kuwepo.

UNA MAANISHA Kiranga ni "kuhani" au ...." KIRANGA Ni Kuhani wake......(..)???" kwa maana ya kwamba "his prophet? kama ulivyoandika mwenyewe kwenye signature yako?

"...Wan'changanya tena hapa!

WHICHEVER THE CASE, kama wewe ni "Prophet", tafadhali soma hapa chini tafsiri yake na utaona unavyopotoka kutumia neno hilo kwa kuwa "prophet" au "Kuhani "/Nabii" siku zote huwa ametumwa kufundusha yale anayoongozwa na mtu fulani aliyemtuma.

Na hapa unaonekana kuwa wewe una kana uwepo wa Mungu kwa upande mmoja lakini unakiri uwepo wa huyo Mungu kwake kwa upande mwingine !. How these two different facts apply simultaneously?. Unless otherwise utuambie sie huyo Mungu tunayemfikirai sie wengine ni wako!.

Prophet

In Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and the Bahá'í faith, a prophet is a person believed to have received a revelation from God. A prophet is thus a recipient of revelation. Some people use the word "prophecy" as a synonym for "revelation"; thus one could say that a prophet is a recipient of prophecy.

A prophetic message may be intended solely for the recipient of the message, but is usually a truth to be stated to the community at large.

Revelation


Readers of this article are encouraged to read the parallel article on revelation, as the term revelation itself has a number of meanings and interpretations, even within the same religion. Various forms of revelation have been proposed, including: verbal revelation; Aristotelian rationalism; non-Verbal propositional revelation; and God's will as revealed through a people's historical development of their faith. In the 20th century existentialism has inspired new ways of understanding revelation.

What is a prophet?

The definition of the word prophet varies from group to group. Some Christian denominations teach that a person who receives a personal message that is not intended for the body of believers, where such an event is credited at all, should not be termed a prophet. For them, a prophet is a person who speaks for God, in the name of God, and who carries God's message to others. The reception of a message is termed revelation; the delivery of the message is termed prophecy.
Abraham Joshua Heschel wrote one of the 20th century's classic commentaries on the prophets, entitled "The Prophets" which has received acclaim in the Jewish community, and in part of the Catholic and liberal Protestant community.







Some examples of prophets in the Tanakh (Old Testament) include:

• Abraham, Sarah, Isaiah, Samuel, Ezekiel, and Job. In Jewish tradition, Daniel is not counted in the list of prophets.

Prophecy in the Hebrew Bible

The Tanakh (Hebrew Bible, which Christians refer to as the Old Testament) affirms that prophecy is not limited to Jews, and is remarkable for the many accounts of prophets it contains. The Tanakh specifically mentions the prophecy of Bilam, a gentile. The accounts include details of men, women and even animals receiving prophecy in various ways. (This section needs to be greatly expanded)
Jewish views of prophecy

Classical Jewish texts teach that the most direct forms of prophecy ended with the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 CE. However, various rabbinic Jewish works, including the midrash, state that other less direct forms of communication between man and God still exist, and have never ended.

Many Jewish works, including the Talmud and Maimonides's "Guide of the Perplexed" affirms that gentiles may receive prophecy. However, Judaism generally does not affirm that any of the specific people well known in other religions are genuine prophets. Jews have not recognized any specific gentile leader as a prophet, as most people who claim to be prophets in other religions have done so in such a way as to delegitimize or supersede Judaism itself. Judaism holds that no true prophet will create a new faith or religion as a successor to Judaism. Thus, the Christian Testament's claim that the Jewish leaders were the offspring of the devil, and that Christians are the new Israel, is rejected. Similarly, Jews reject the Quran's claims that Jews have deliberately falsified the Bible and that only Muslims know the true word of God.

The Talmud affirms that minor forms of prophecy still occur. One example of this is the 'bat kol'. (e.g. Tosefta Sota 13:3, Yerushalmi Sota 24b, and Bavli Sota 48b). The Talmud notes that each time a Jew studies the Torah or its rabbinic commentaries, God is revealed anew; there is still a link between the God and the Jewish people. Reference: Abraham Joshua Heschel's "Prophetic Inspiration After the Prophets: Maimonides and Others" (Ktav)
A Jewish tradition holds that there were 600,000 male and 600,000 female prophets. Judaism recognizes the existence of 49 prophets who bequeathed permanent messages to mankind.

According to the Talmud there were also seven women who are counted as prophets whose message bears relevance for all generations: Sarah, Miriam, Devorah, Hannah (mother of the prophet Samuel), Abigail (a wife of King David), Huldah (from the time of Jeremiah), and Esther. There were, of course, other women who functioned as prophets, and the last prophet mentioned in the Bible, Noahdiah (Nehemiah 6:14) was a woman.
Christian views


Mainstream Christians, i.e. those who believe in the Trinity, believe prophecy ended with the coming of Jesus Christ, who delivered the "fullness of the law". Within this group, many Protestants believe that prophecy ended with the last of the prophets in the Hebrew portion of the Bible that Christians call the "Old Testament" included in their canon, leaving a gap of about 400 years between then and the coming of Jesus Christ.

The Eastern Orthodox generally believe that John the Baptist (also known as John the Forerunner) was the last of the prophets, thus tightly linking the period of prophecy in the Old Testament with Jesus. Roman Catholics and Muslims also regard John the Baptist as a prophet. Most (but not all) Christian faiths that reject the concept of the Trinity and a few other traditional Christian beliefs teach that prophecy continues today, and that the founder of their faith was a prophet.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the largest Mormon church, believes that its founder was a prophet. The leader of the church is known as the "Prophet, Seer and Revelator" in the belief that he continues to receive direct revelation from God for the guidance of the church. This began with first of the presidents, Joseph Smith, Jr. The Unification Church likewise regards its founder, Sun Myung Moon as a living prophet.

Jehovah's Witnesses do not consider their founder Charles Taze Russell or any other person in their modern-day history to be a prophet. Occasionally, their literature refers to the Christian congregation collectively as God's prophet on earth; this must be understood however in the sense of declaring God's judgments from the Bible, rather than a claim to inspiration. For many years, their magazine The Watchtower included a foreword that said: "No, The Watchtower is no inspired prophet."
Given that most Christians believe Jesus to be God, those in the Greek Bible called the "New Testament" that received a message from him might be considered by some Christians to be prophets.
Islamic views


Islam holds that Allah (Arabic for God) sent prophets to all nations on earth, at various stages of their histories. These prophets had the task of conveying religious guidance to the people. The Quran is held by Muslims to have been written by God and transmitted via the angel Garbriel to the prophet Mohammed.

The Quran mentions the names of 25 prophets, and indicates that there have been many others sent to humanity throughout time. These 25 include Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. These individuals were mortal humans; Islam demands that a believer accept all of the prophets, making no distinction between them. It is Muhammad who is held to be the last prophet, ending a long line of messengers and also believed is the return of prophet Isa (Jesus) on the Last Day.

The Ahmadi Muslims consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian to be a prophet. However as he comes after the prophet Mohammed, their teachings are considered heretical and non-Islamic by most Muslims.
See: Prophets of Islam
Bahai views


Bahá'í teaches that there have been other great prophets besides the seven cited by Islam. The founder of the Bahá'í faith, Bahá'u'lláh, who came after Mohammed, is one such prophet. In addition, there were other prophets who spoke to the followers of other faiths in other parts of the world. Thus the founders of great non-Western religions, such as Buddha, are also considered prophets of God. The faith teaches that religion is an unfolding process in world history, and the various prophets participated in this process in different times and cultures. This explains the differences in the world's great religions, which are ultimately one and come from God.

http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Prophet/

 

[Kiranga]

UNA MAANISHA Kiranga ni "kuhani" au ...." KIRANGA Ni Kuhani wake......(..)" kwa maana ya kwamba "his prophet? kama ulivyoandika mwenyewe kwenye signature yako?

"...Wan'changanya tena hapa!

WHICHEVER THE CASE, kama wewe ni "Prophet", tafadhali soma hapa chini tafsiri yake na utaona unavyopotoka kutumia neno hilo kwa kuwa "prophet" au "Kuhani "/Nabii" siku zote huwa ametumwa kufundusha yale anayoongozwa na mtu fulani aliyemtuma.

Na hapa unaonekana kuwa wewe ni unakana uwepo wa Mungu kwa upande mmoja lakini unazes Ni kuwani wake unayehubiri kuwa yeye Mungu hayupo!. How these two different facts apply simultaneously?.

Huwezi kunielewa kwa sababu pembetatu yako ina nyuzi 180, mimi naingia kwenye pembetatu yenye nyuzi zaidi ya au chini ya 180 lakini kamwe si 180. Wewe unatumia Euclidean geometry wakati mimi nipo kwenye non euclidean geometry, why, you even quote the old testament or some antiquated ancient jewish books, how laughable..

Unatumia common sense wakati mimi naingia kwenye counter-intuitive uncommon common sense ya quantum physics za kina Wolfgang Pauli huko.

Ninaposema thre is no god, nafanya "no god" kuwa ndiyo godhead entity yangu.

Ninaposema and Kiranga is his prophet, namanisha Kiranga is the prophet of godlessness.Ndiyo maana nipo hapa naongea kwamba hakuna mungu, natumia sayansi kueleza phenomena as best as possible na pale sayansi isipoweza kutoa jibu sioni haya kusema hapa hatujajua bado, unlike theistambao kila kitu wasichojua wanamlundikia mungu.

Sijui kama utaelewa hili.Halafu mambo mengine ni dramatic effect, obviously nikikwambia there is no god halafu nikakwambia and Kiranga is his prophet hutakiwi kushangaa kwa nini nimetumia his, it is a quantum physics weirdness thing, counterintuitive picturization that does not to necessarily make sense in the large scale universe, ni kama Einstein alivyo coin phrase ya "in my mind's eye" hutakiwi kushangaa sana kwamba huyu bwana ana jicho katika mawazo yake.

Otherwise watu watakuona slow tu, huelewi artistic language.

 

[Donrich]

...sasa nimekubali kwamba..there is no god,..but there is God and Kiranga can not be his prophet unless he admit His existance.

 

[Kiranga]

...sasa nimekubali kwamba..there is no god,..but there is God and Kiranga can not be his prophet unless he admit His existance.

Like I said, we can't see eye to eye and therefore we can't relate.

Katika ulimwengu wako parallel lines kamwe hazigusani, katika ulimwengu wangu parallel lines zinagusana, tutaelewanaje?

 

[ngoshwe]

Kiranga, you appear to be almost acrobatic guy, acha sarakasi za maneno ambayo huwezi kuyajengea hoja!.

Usijaribu kucheza na maneno ya lugha ya kigeni, kumbuka hata hizo "uncommon sense ya quantum physics za kina Wolfgang Pauli" na akina Einstein unao warejea kama msingi wa mawzao na imani yako kuwa mungu hayupo, zina chimbuko lake na wewe yawezakuwa hao sasa ndo "miungu wako" kwani waonyeshwa wazi unavyo waamini kwenye nadharia zao. Kama ndo unaanza kuingia kwenye hiyo fani ya kupingana na ukweli, jaribu usichanganye sanyansi, lugha na dini.

"Science" is all about "theories" and "proofs" therefore, it has never worked "on common sense". "common sense is always men perceptions of what is applied in the realy world and can not be simply ignored (note: common sense is what people in common would agree on, : that which they "sense" as their common natural understanding!., without reliance on esoteric knowledge or study or research, but based upon what they see as knowledge held by people "in common". .) while "Uncommon sense" is the opposite of "common sense" and always based on the individual's perceptions, counterintuitive views which are undistiguishable to theories of the "common sense".

Kumbuka kuwa kwenye sayansi "common sense" is always applicable when there is a "point of return and failure of man's mind/brain to reach to the truth" kwa maana nyingine ni kuwa unapaswa kuanza na uhalisia na ili kuthibitisha "uwepo au kutokuwepo kwa uhalisi" na pale unaposhindwa kuthibitisha yale uliyotaka watu wayaamini kuwepo au kutokuwepo, usitumie vigezo vya wengine kuthibitisha ambavyo wao wamenshindwa pia kuyathibitisha vinginevyo utakuwa unakubaliana nami kuwa unachokifikiria unatumia "common sense" na sio "uncommon sense"!.

 

[madule]

Bwana Asifiwe Kiranga!

 

[Donrich]

kiranga usiondoke,bado natafakari...

 

[Donrich]

Probably,this is my last comment tonight,..Kama utapata muda ukasome Zaburi 53:1..mpumbavu amesema moyoni hakuna Mungu,wametenda uovu wa ufisadi na kuchukiza,hakuna atendaye mema........ninaamini kuanzia utaamini kwamba Mungu yupo maana siamini kwamba unataka kuwa mmoja wa wapumbavu watendao uovu,ufisadi na machukiza eti kwa kufikiri tu kwamba mungu hayupo.

 

[Kiranga]

Kiranga, you appear to be almost acrobatic guy so to say.

Usijaribu kucheza na maneno ya Lugha za kigeni, hata hizo "uncommon sense ya quantum physics za kina Wolfgang Pauli" na akina Einstein unao warejea kama msingi wa imani yako kuwa mungu hayupo, zina chimbuko lake na wewe yawezakuwa ndo "miungu wako" kwani waonyeshwa wazi unavyowa amini. Jaribu kama ndo unaanza kuingia kwenye hiyo fani ya kupingana na ukweli, usichanganye sanyansi, lugha na dini.

"Science" is all about "theories" and "proofs" therefore, it has never worked "on common sense". "common sense is always men perceptions of what is applied in the realy world and can not be simply ignored (note: common sense is what people in common would agree on, : that which they "sense" as their common natural understanding!., without reliance on esoteric knowledge or study or research, but based upon what they see as knowledge held by people "in common". .) while "Uncommon sense" is the opposite of "common sense" and always based on the individual's perceptions, counterintuitive views which are undistiguishable to theories of the "common sense".

Na kumbuka kwenye Sayansi "Common sense" is always applicale when there is a "point of return an failure of man's mind" manake ni pale unaposhindwa kuthibitisha yale uliyotaka watu wayaamini kama hivi. Unatumia vigezo vya wengine kuthibitisha ambavyo wao wamenshindwa pia kuyathibitisha mpaka wame kufa!.

Totally confused!..

Nnai kakwambia namuamini mtu? Umelitoa wapi hilo? Unaweza kunionyesha hapa? Au unajisemea tu?

 

[Kiranga]

Bwana Asifiwe Kiranga!

Bwana gani? Asifiwe ili iweje? Asiposifiwa kutakuwa na matatizo gani? Kwa nini anapenda sana sifa?

 

[Kiranga]

Umekuja nilipopataka, na nilijua utakuja hapo ndo maana nikaanza kusema I can prove to you through facts, and the following are among the facts regarding your questions( tangible, observable, n.k.)
First of all be informed that not all non tangible, testless, and un-observable things do not exist. I am sure every one is aware about force, and if ask one will tell you there is a force thus why a flight take off, but if ask him can you observe, touch the force no one will tell you that he see/saw it by his/her eyes , no one had touch it or test it through five organs, but it is a force, which implies that, there are other organ that can prove existance of the force!!!!!!!! Like wise other organs are week to prove existance of the force. Similarly, the existence of god can be proved by organs other than what you forementioned as facts to prove his existence.

This is just one example to demostrate you that God do exist mzeeeee.

That is where you arewrong, hujaonyesha kama mungu ana exist, umeonyesha unavyoshindwa kuonyesha mungu ana exist.

Force is a measurable entity,

Force = Mass X Acceleration

Kitu kingine ukikiita force, sijui roho mtakatifu na makorokoro mengine mizimu siju ambayo hayapimiki kisayansi hizo si forces za kisayansi, labda kwenye voodoo kuna force nyingine lakini haitambuliki kiayansi

Hii ni elementary physics

Ona hii website ya Chuo Kikuu cha Illinois inaweza kukusaidia kuhusu force ni nini.

Ndiyo maana nasema mnaoamini mungu mnajitungia vitu visivyoonekana wala kupimika na kuharibu haya majina kama force, kuchanganya watu

http://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=268

Measuring forces and speeds

Q: How can you measure the force on an object? Is there any way to measure the speed of an object without using a radar gun?

-Anonymous

A: There are lots of ways to measure the force on an object and the speed of an object. Which way you might use depends on the details of what you're doing. I'll give some examples of how to measure force and speed -- perhaps you can think of some more!

Measuring force:

1) A scale will directly read the force applied to it. A bathroom scale usually has a spring inside attached to a dial which reads how much the spring has either compressed or stretched, depending on how the scale is constructed. Scales read forces in units of pounds in the United States.

2) You can hook up a spring directly to the object you would like to measure the force on, and pull on the other end of the spring. The amount by which the spring stretches is directly proportional to the force applied. The constant of proportionality depends on the spring and should be calibrated with a known force, like a known weight.

3) You can use Newton's law F=mA. If you know the mass of an object and can measure its acceleration, the force is the product of these two. But be careful -- this force is the sum of all forces on the object. Be careful with friction! Measuring the acceleration just means measuring the speed at different times and seeing how it changes. Acceleration is the change in speed divided by the change in time.

 

[ngoshwe]

Probably,this is my last comment tonight,..Kama utapata muda ukasome Zaburi 53:1..mpumbavu amesema moyoni hakuna Mungu,wametenda uovu wa ufisadi na kuchukiza,hakuna atendaye mema........ninaamini kuanzia utaamini kwamba Mungu yupo maana siamini kwamba unataka kuwa mmoja wa wapumbavu watendao uovu,ufisadi na machukiza eti kwa kufikiri tu kwamba mungu hayupo.

Don,

sijui kama atakuelewa hapa yeye yupo kwenye kundi la "uncommon sense thinkers". Lakini uzuri wa hawa watu ni kuwa nadharia zao zikifeli huwa wanatabia ya kuamini MUNGU yupo kwa kuwa huwa wanatehgemeana kwenye hilo hilo kundi la "uncommon sense thinkers" badae wanakuja kulingana kimawazo na hapo ndipo tunaposema wote ni "common sense" ambayo Kiarnga anajaribu pasipo utafiti wa kina kuikwepa hapa.

Kwa kuwa dini ni nyingi, imani tofauti, kwa miungu tofauti, yawezekana kabisa huyu ndugu yetu Kiranga ana waamini wana sayansi wenzie kuliko mtu mwingine yeyote. Anaweza kukuambia pengine hata yeye hakuzaliwa na yupo kwa sababu yupo tu. Sikujui ana kanushaje, kwa nini anapumua,amelala sasa, anasikia njaa, anakwenda haja, ana simama, ana kaa, analia, ana chukia, ana cheka, ana waza nk.

Anajua kuwa yaliyomo ndani yake sio sayansi imeyaweka na sayansi haiwezi kuyafanya yaendelee kuwepo ndani yake milele (ndo maana hata mashine za hewa ya oksijeni zilizotengenezwa na mwana damu uwekwe mtu pale ambapo anakuwa kwenye hali ya ambayo hawezi kuishi na hewa hiyo ikishindwa, sayansi haiwezi kumrudishia uhai). Hawezi pia kutuambia hapa ni nani aliyemfanya awe hivi allivyo leo.....na ametokea wapi kabla ya kuwepo hapo, na kwa nini yupo hivyo halivyo na asiwe vile anavyotaka!.

Sayansi pia bado haijathibitisha kwa uhalisi asili ya binadamu wala hatima yake baada ya hapa mbali na nadharia tu zinazotolewa ambazo zinapingania. Hata hao wanasayansi maarufu waliokufa hawajaelezewa na wenzao walipo mpaka sasa!.

Lakini napata faraja kuwa kama sayansi na dini vingekuwa na mustakabali sawa, pasingekuwa na ugunduzi wowote duniani,

Watu kama hawa wawepo duniani kwa ajili ya mafanikio katika maisha ya binadamu.

Alaamsiki sasa!

 

[Kiranga]

Probably,this is my last comment tonight,..Kama utapata muda ukasome Zaburi 53:1..mpumbavu amesema moyoni hakuna Mungu,wametenda uovu wa ufisadi na kuchukiza,hakuna atendaye mema........ninaamini kuanzia utaamini kwamba Mungu yupo maana siamini kwamba unataka kuwa mmoja wa wapumbavu watendao uovu,ufisadi na machukiza eti kwa kufikiri tu kwamba mungu hayupo.

Na mimi nitakwambia, mjanja kwa kutumia saikolojia amemfunga mpumbavu wa kweli kwa kumuogopesha kuitwa mpumbavu kwa kumwambia "mpumbavu amesema moyoni hakuna mungu"

Biblia hiyo hiyo unayo i quote imejaa contradictions, sehemu nyingine inakwmbia kila kitu ubatili mtupu.Contrdiction lukuki, ukiangalia unaona biblia imeandikwa na kuwa compiled na watu tu, wame i edit mara kibao, wameitumia kisiasa tangu enzi za kina Constantine na council of Nicea mpaka George W Bush, wengine wameitumia ku justify kuwafanya watu weusi watumwa na uchafu kibao, then unataka niiamini kichwa kichwa tu?

 

[ngoshwe]

That is where you arewrong, hujaonyesha kama mungu ana exist, umeonyesha unavyoshindwa kuonyesha mungu ana exist.

Force is a measurable entity,

Force = Mass X Acceleration

Kitu kingine ukikiita force, sijui roho mtakatifu na makorokoro mengine mizimu siju ambayo hayapimiki kisayansi hizo si forces za kisayansi, labda kwenye voodoo kuna force nyingine lakini haitambuliki kiayansi

Hii ni elementary physics

Ona hii website ya Chuo Kikuu cha Illinois inaweza kukusaidia kuhusu force ni nini.

Ndiyo maana nasema mnaoamini mungu mnajitungia vitu visivyoonekana wala kupimika na kuharibu haya majina kama force, kuchanganya watu

http://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=268

Measuring forces and speeds

Q: How can you measure the force on an object? Is there any way to measure the speed of an object without using a radar gun?

-Anonymous

A: There are lots of ways to measure the force on an object and the speed of an object. Which way you might use depends on the details of what you're doing. I'll give some examples of how to measure force and speed -- perhaps you can think of some more!

Measuring force:

1) A scale will directly read the force applied to it. A bathroom scale usually has a spring inside attached to a dial which reads how much the spring has either compressed or stretched, depending on how the scale is constructed. Scales read forces in units of pounds in the United States.

2) You can hook up a spring directly to the object you would like to measure the force on, and pull on the other end of the spring. The amount by which the spring stretches is directly proportional to the force applied. The constant of proportionality depends on the spring and should be calibrated with a known force, like a known weight.

3) You can use Newton's law F=mA. If you know the mass of an object and can measure its acceleration, the force is the product of these two. But be careful -- this force is the sum of all forces on the object. Be careful with friction! Measuring the acceleration just means measuring the speed at different times and seeing how it changes. Acceleration is the change in speed divided by the change in time.

Huyu anonymous ni nani? na kwa nini unadhani rejea imefanyika kwa "Newton Law" kama sio hiyo "Common sense" unayojaribu kupingana nayo hapa??. Kumbe huna msimamo wako binafsi, hao akina Newton ndo Miungu wako tunaosema vinginevyo huwezi kuja na hoja binafsi ya kuthibitisha kutokuwepo kwa Mungu pasipo kuwarejea marehemu kama akina Newton?..

 

[ngoshwe]

Nnai kakwambia namuamini mtu? Umelitoa wapi hilo? Unaweza kunionyesha hapa? Au unajisemea tu?

QUOTE=Kiranga;754167]

Unatumia common sense wakati mimi naingia kwenye counter-intuitive uncommon common sense ya quantum physics za kina Wolfgang Pauli huko.

Ninaposema thre is no god, nafanya "no god" kuwa ndiyo godhead entity yangu.

Ninaposema and Kiranga is his prophet, namanisha Kiranga is the prophet of godlessness.Ndiyo maana nipo hapa naongea kwamba hakuna mungu, natumia sayansi kueleza phenomena as best as possible na pale sayansi isipoweza kutoa jibu sioni haya kusema hapa hatujajua bado, unlike theistambao kila kitu wasichojua wanamlundikia mungu.

Sijui kama utaelewa hili.Halafu mambo mengine ni dramatic effect, obviously nikikwambia there is no god halafu nikakwambia and Kiranga is his prophet hutakiwi kushangaa kwa nini nimetumia his, it is a quantum physics weirdness thing, counterintuitive picturization that does not to necessarily make sense in the large scale universe, ni kama Einstein alivyo coin phrase ya "in my mind's eye" hutakiwi kushangaa sana kwamba huyu bwana ana jicho katika mawazo yake.

Haya sio maandiko yako unayojaribu kuyakwepa?...ua ulimaanisha nini, unakuwa na "uncommon sense" hata penye "Common sense"??

 

[Kiranga]

Huyu anonymous ni nani? na kwa nini unadhani rejea imefanyika kwa "Newton Law" kama sio hiyo "Common sense" unayojaribu kupingana nayo hapa??. Kumbe huna msimamo wako binafsi, hao akina Newton ndo Miungu wako tunaosema vinginevyo huwezi kuja na hoja binafsi ya kuthibitisha kutokuwepo kwa Mungu pasipo kuwarejea marehemu kama akina Newton?..

Are you anti science? unapinga ukweli wa Newtons Law?

Wewe una msimamo wako binafsi? Kati ya mimi ninayequestion vitu katika sayansi (sayansi msingi wake ni ku question) na wewe unayeamini dini (dini msingi wake ni imani bila kuuliza, Augustine alipoulizwa mungu alikuwa anafanya nini kabla ya kutengeneza dunia alijibu kwamba alikuwa anatengeneza moto kuwaweka watu wanaouliza maswali kama hayo, go figure) nani ana independence zaidi? Hivi dini na sayansi kipi kinaruhusu independent thinking zaidi? Unaweza kusema kitu kuhusu "msimamo wako?" naona unanifanya nisitafute weakness zako, maana unazisema mwenyewe kwa niaba yangu.

Halafu tofautisha msimamo wa mtu na established fact.Huwezi kukataa kutumia a wheel kwa sababu eti si wewe uliyeligundua na kwa hiyo si lako, si msimamo wako, inakubidi uvumbue kitu kingine sawa na wheel.Utakuwa babu jinga.

Hizi established scientific facts and formulas ni kama the already invented wheel, siwezi ku shy away from using these tools eti kwa sababu si "msimamo wangu" ninachoweza kufanya ni ku verify kama vinaweza ku stand logical scientific tests.

Unavyozidi kuandika ndvyo unazidi kuanika ignorance yako.

 

[Kiranga]

Don,

sijui kama atakuelewa hapa yeye yupo kwenye kundi la "uncommon sense thinkers". Lakini uzuri wa hawa watu ni kuwa nadharia zao zikifeli huwa wanatabia ya kuamini MUNGU yupo kwa kuwa huwa wanatehgemeana kwenye hilo hilo kundi la "uncommon sense thinkers" badae wanakuja kulingana kimawazo na hapo ndipo tunaposema wote ni "common sense" ambayo Kiarnga anajaribu pasipo utafiti wa kina kuikwepa hapa.

Kwa kuwa dini ni nyingi, imani tofauti, kwa miungu tofauti, yawezekana kabisa huyu ndugu yetu Kiranga ana waamini wana sayansi wenzie kuliko mtu mwingine yeyote. Anaweza kukuambia pengine hata yeye hakuzaliwa na yupo kwa sababu yupo tu. Sikujui ana kanushaje, kwa nini anapumua,amelala sasa, anasikia njaa, anakwenda haja, ana simama, ana kaa, analia, ana chukia, ana cheka, ana waza nk.

Anajua kuwa yaliyomo ndani yake sio sayansi imeyaweka na sayansi haiwezi kuyafanya yaendelee kuwepo ndani yake milele (ndo maana hata mashine za hewa ya oksijeni zilizotengenezwa na mwana damu uwekwe mtu pale ambapo anakuwa kwenye hali ya ambayo hawezi kuishi na hewa hiyo ikishindwa, sayansi haiwezi kumrudishia uhai). Hawezi pia kutuambia hapa ni nani aliyemfanya awe hivi allivyo leo.....na ametokea wapi kabla ya kuwepo hapo, na kwa nini yupo hivyo halivyo na asiwe vile anavyotaka!.

Sayansi pia bado haijathibitisha kwa uhalisi asili ya binadamu wala hatima yake baada ya hapa mbali na nadharia tu zinazotolewa ambazo zinapingania. Hata hao wanasayansi maarufu waliokufa hawajaelezewa na wenzao walipo mpaka sasa!.

Lakini napata faraja kuwa kama sayansi na dini vingekuwa na mustakabali sawa, pasingekuwa na ugunduzi wowote duniani,

Watu kama hawa wawepo duniani kwa ajili ya mafanikio katika maisha ya binadamu.

Alaamsiki sasa!

Jifunze netiquette kwanza, una bold post nzima.Kama unaandika barua ya kuomba kazi inaenda straight kapuni.

 

[Herbalist Dr MziziMkavu]

Wakati baadhi ya dini zinafundisha kuwa dhambi zote ni sawa, nimesikia kwa waumini wa dini fulani kuwa “dhambi mbaya kabisa kwenye vitabu vya Mungu” ni dhambi ya “kumegana” , "kura uroda" au “Kuzini”.

Watetezi wa hili wanadai kuwa dhambi hii inaambatana au kumalizikia na kuvunja amri zote kumi za agano kati ya Mungu na wanadamu kupitia Musa.

Kwa dhambi ya kuzini, mtu anakuwa amesema uwongo kwa mwenzi wake na huyo atakaezini nae au watu wengine ili kuficha uovu nk. Kwa kupenda zinaa, mtu anakuwa hajamheshimu Mungu wake, wala hajaheshimu wazazi au wanaomzidi umri, anaweza kutoheshimu pia siku ya ibada kwa kuwaza zinaa kichwani hata akiwa kanisani au msikitini, anakuwa ametamani mali ya mtu mwingine (mke,gari, nguo, nyumba nk). Kwa zinaa mtu anaweza kuua (kupitia magonjwa au kuua mwenzake ili ampate huyo wa kuzini nae). Anakuwa ametamani mke asiye wake (wa jirani, rafiki nk) ili atende nae zinaa. Utamu wote wa zinaa kwa wanadamu ni uchafu na chukizo mbele za Mungu na Malaika wake.

Kwamba, zinaa inahusisha mawazo, maneno na matendo na kushindwa kutimiza wajibu. Ikiwa Mzazi au mtu mwenye majukumu, anaweza kutelekeze familia kwa sababu ya kujikita kwenye fani ya kubwinya "tunda la katikati" nk. Aidha, tafsiri ya zinaa inakuwa imekamilika baada ya mwili na roho kukubaliana (kufanya agano la mapatano ya kutenda dhambi) kwa kukubali kukutanisah ndimi mbili ambazo pengine hazifkuwahi kufahamiani hata kidogo katika maisha na hata malaika walinzi wa ndimi hizo wanaweza kuwa na sifa zisizo sawa machoni pa Mungu.

Kwa tendo hilo, zinaa inahesabika kuwa ni dhambi ya machukizo kwa Mungu wako na Malaika mlinzi na ndio maana baada ya tendo hilo, ubinadamu huwa unatoweka kwa sekunde kadhaa na hapo huwezi kutambua uzuri au ubaya wa tendo ulilolifanya na pengine ujutie moyoni mwako kwa nini umefanya vile na unapojitambua upo vile ulivyo aibu inakushika (upo uchi!).

Wakati mwingine, inaweza kukupelekea kwenye ugomvi na huyo uliezini nae kwani maelewano yanakuwa yameisha (kw mf: ukipewa "invoice" ya kulipia huduma uliyopewa na kutoona hailingani na thamani halisi ya kupurudika kwako).

Enyi wanazuoni, nini ukweli wa habari hii?.

Kur'an

17. SURA AL ISRAAI (BANI ISRAIL) 32. Wala msikaribie uzinzi. Hakika huo ni uchafu na njia mbaya.

24. SURATUN NUR
(Imeteremka Madina)

Sura hii ni ya Madina, na Aya zake ni 64. Mwenyezi Mungu amebainisha ndani yake waajibu wa kusafisha umma na uchafu wa zina na kutangaza fedheha kwa vitendo na maneno kati ya Waumini. Na akaleta sharia ya adhabu kuzuia hayo, kama alivyo leta sharia makhsusi katika uzinzi wa mume au mke ili kujenga imani baina ya mtu na mkewe. Kutoka uzinzi masimulizi yakaingilia kutaja hukumu ya uwongo katika hali hizi, na yawapasayo Waumini kwa min tarafu ya neno ovu lisio kuwa na dalili. Tena yakafuatia masimulizi ya adabu za kuingia majumbani. Na nani mwenye haki ya kuona pambo la mwanamke. Na baada ya wito wa jumla ikafuatiliza kutakiwa mwendo safi usio na towa. Kisha imekuja Nuru ya Mwenyezi Mungu, na inatajwa misikiti, na vinatangazwa vitendo vya makafiri na hali za wenye inadi. Na upande mwengine zinaelezwa hali za Waumini. Baada ya hayo Sura inaeleza adabu za watu wa nyumbani, watu walio khusiana, watoto na wakubwa, katika hali ya kuingiliana na kuchanganyika. Na nani mwenye haki ya kula naye mtu. Na khatimaye zimetajwa sifa za Waumini wanapo itwa na Mtume kwa jambo lilio wakhusu wote, na Sura ikambainisha Mwenye Ukuu wa Ufalme wake ulio tukuka, na Mwenye kuenea ujuzi wake.

2. Mzinifu mwanamke na mzinifu mwanamume, mtandikeni kila mmoja katika wao bakora mia. Wala isikushikeni huruma kwa ajili yao katika hukumu ya Mwenyezi Mungu, ikiwa nyinyi mnamuamini Mwenyezi Mungu na Siku ya Mwisho. Na lishuhudie adhabu yao kundi la Waumini

3. Mwanamume mzinifu hamwoi ila mwanamke mzinifu au mwanamke mshirikina. Na mwanamke mzinifu haolewi ila na mwanamume mzinifu au mshirikina. Na hayo yameharimishwa kwa Waumini.

Na wanao wasingizia wanawake mahashumu, kisha wasilete mashahidi wane, basi watandikeni bakora thamanini, na msiwakubalie ushahidi wao tena. Na hao ndio wapotovu.

5. Isipo kuwa wale walio tubu baada ya hayo na wakatengenea; kwani bila ya shaka Mwenyezi Mungu ni Msamehevu, Mwenye kurehemu.

6. Na wale wanao wasingizia wake zao na hawana mashahidi ila nafsi zao, basi ushahidi wa mmoja wao utakuwa kushuhudilia mara nne kwa kiapo cha Mwenyezi Mungu ya kwamba hakika yeye ni katika wasema kweli.

7. Na mara ya tano kwamba laana ya Mwenyezi Mungu iwe juu yake ikiwa ni miongoni mwa waongo

8. Na mke itamwondokea adhabu kwa kutoa shahada mara nne kwa kiapo cha Mwenyezi Mungu ya kwamba huyu mume ni miongoni mwa waongo.

9. Na mara ya tano ya kwamba ghadhabu ya Mwenyezi Mungu iwe juu yake kama mumewe yu miongoni mwa wanao sema kweli

10. Na lau kuwa si fadhila ya Mwenyezi Mungu juu yenu na rehema yake, na ya kuwa Mwenyezi Mungu ni Mpokeaji toba..



Biblia Kumbukumbu la Torati/ Chapter 5 18. Wala usizini.

Mathayo/ Chapter 5 27. Mmesikia kwamba imenenwa, Usizini;
28. lakini mimi nawaambia, Kila mtu atazamaye mwanamke kwa kumtamani, amekwisha kuzini naye moyoni mwake.
29. Jicho lako la kuume likikukosesha, ling'oe ulitupe mbali nawe; kwa maana yakufaa kiungo chako kimoja kipotee wala mwili wako mzima usitupwe katika jehanum.
30. Na mkono wako wa kuume ukikukosesha, ukate uutupe mbali nawe; kwa maana yakufaa kiungo chako kimoja kipotee wala mwili wako mzima usitupwe katika jehanum