Mombasa port now five times bigger than Dar es salaam

Mombasa port now five times bigger than Dar es salaam

Chamoto said:
Not really, I was just trying to understand the logic behind putting the horse before the cart.
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Mombasa port handles cargo for Uganda, south sudan,DRC and yes even Tanzania. Local cargo has also grown as such even with this expansion the capacity will be stretched out by 2021. It is standard practise across the world for ports to give extra capacity, but i do not think you understand world standards. You are after all a Tanzanian.
 
Kevin85ify said:
Mombasa port handles cargo for Uganda, south sudan,DRC and yes even Tanzania. Local cargo has also grown as such even with this expansion the capacity will be stretched out by 2021. It is standard practise across the world for ports to give extra capacity, but i do not think you understand world standards. You are after all a Tanzanian.
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How are you going to handle that amount of load if the only way to get to Uganda/Congo is by using a narrow gauge railway, built over a century ago?
 
Chamoto said:
How are you going to handle that amount of load if the only way to get to Uganda/Congo is by using a narrow gauge railway, built over a century ago?
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As I have repeatedly told you Tanzanians, be active and research, google is a friend. Kenya moves cargo by sgr and mgr with the sgr moving about 1200 containers a day. ie A ship docks now in Mombasa carrying 1,887 import containers and in 10 hours more than half of the containers are already in Nairobi ICD by sgr, before the ship is even completely unloaded and loaded with more containers. At the ICD Trailers and Trucks load transit cargo to Uganda, DRC and south sudan, while Tanzania cargo is taken from Mombasa port terminals.

After August Uganda, DRC and south sudan cargo will be picked in Naivasha and not Nairobi while the MGR is being upgraded before the Naivasha- Kisumu sgr is completed(3 1/2 yrs).
 
Kevin85ify said:
As I have repeatedly told you Tanzanians, be active and research, google is a friend. Kenya moves cargo by sgr and mgr with the sgr moving about 1200 containers a day
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I don't need Google...

I believe you understand the physics behind narrow vs wider railway system and the effects of a normal force per unit area (pressure). In other words you can't put too much weight on a narrow gauge railway because the pressure on rails will exceed the stability limitations. With that much cargo to transport and slower low axle load capacity railcar, you are getting into a disastrous situation.
 
Chamoto said:
I believe you understand the physics behind narrow vs wider railway system and the effects of a normal force per unit area (pressure). In other words you can't put too much weight on a narrow gauge railway because the pressure on rails will exceed the stability limitation. With that much cargo to transport and slower low axle load capacity railcar , you are getting into a disastrous situation.
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It is either you do not understand english or your comprehension skills are wanting. Kenyan sgr has an axle load of 25 tonnes which can be increased to 32 by merely adding onto the ballast base of the track.Kenya’s side of the railway is heavier and accommodates heavier trains with bigger cargo capacity, goods destined to Uganda will have to be kept at an inland depot before they are reloaded. “That is why Kenya has to create an inland container depot at Naivasha and provide land to President Yoweri Museveni to keep his goods before they are reloaded to MGR trains
 
The Port of Mombasa has continued to record exceptional performance at its container terminal.
Container carrier, MV X Press Kilimanjaro docked at the facility on Friday at 16.45 hrs with 1,887 import containers and planned to load 1,914 export containers.
By 0700hrs Saturday morning (after 14.25 hrs),the vessel had registered a total of 2,344 moves at 165 moves per hour.
According to Kenya Ports Authority (KPA) General Manager Operations, Captain William Ruto, the record performance compares well with top ten performing container terminals like Singapore and surpases previous performance of 150 moves per hour.
 
Kevin85ify said:
It is either you do not understand english or your comprehension skills are wanting. Kenyan sgr has an axle load of 25 tonnes which can be increased to 32 by merely adding onto the ballast base of the track.Kenya’s side of the railway is heavier and accommodates heavier trains with bigger cargo capacity, goods destined to Uganda will have to be kept at an inland depot before they are reloaded. “That is why Kenya has to create an inland container depot at Naivasha and provide land to President Yoweri Museveni to keep his goods before they are reloaded to MGR trains
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You can yap yap yapping all day till the cows come home but you still don't have 25 tonnes axel load railroad between Naivasha and Malaba. What you have is that old piece of shit that is too slow and can't handle any significant weight.
 
Chamoto said:
You can yap yap yapping all day till the cows come home but you still don't have 25 tonnes axel load railroad between Naivasha and Malaba. What you have is that old piece of shit that is too slow and can't handle any significant weight.
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You are quite an incorrigible delinquent aren't you? Who said there is an sgr line from Naivasha to malaba? I have said at Naivasha goods will be stored at the ICD in naivasha thereafter ugandan trains will pick their goods. Okay let me dumb it down, if one sgr train reaches naivasha it will be broken down to around three MGR cargo trains. ie One sgr train will transfer cargo to three MGR cargo trains at Naivasha. I hope that is broken down for your Tanzanian brain to understand (A nursery child in kenya will understand this).
 
Kevin85ify said:
You are quite an incorrigible delinquent aren't you? Who said there is an sgr line from Naivasha to malaba? I have said at Naivasha goods will be stored at the ICD in naivasha thereafter ugandan trains will pick their goods. Okay let me dumb it down, if one sgr train reaches naivasha it will be broken down to around three MGR cargo trains. ie One sgr train will transfer cargo to three MGR cargo trains at Naivasha. I hope that is broken down for your Tanzanian brain to understand (A nursery child in kenya will understand this).
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Quite a redundant move by the way, breaking a cargo into three, talking about fail to plan...
 
Chamoto said:
Quite a redundant move by the way, breaking a cargo into three, talking about fail to plan...
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Ha hahahaaa, says you. This is temporary while the Naivasha-Kisumu sgr is being built.long term is to refurbish MGR all the way from Mombasa and have both sgr and mgr taking cargo from mombasa port.
It is sad that after all Tanzanians predict Kenya's downfall, only for kenya to beat expectations.
 
Kevin85ify said:
It is sad that after all Tanzanians predict Kenya's downfall, only for kenya to beat expectations.
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Tanzania doesn't wish any ill will on Kenya... we do us, as of right now we're building a 35 tonne axle load high speed rail. We soar as always.
 
Chamoto said:
How are you going to handle that amount of load if the only way to get to Uganda/Congo is by using a narrow gauge railway, built over a century ago?
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Sounds like you have a narrow gauge brain so you won't even come close to comprehending Kenya's logistical prowess and long term vision.
 
Kevin85ify said:
Mombasa had an installed capacity of 1.3 million TEUs in 2018 against 450,000 TEUs for Dar port, with the recent expansion (Phase 1 completed), it now boasts of a capacity of 2.6 million TEUs.
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This is sadly true!

This country is a hell hole!
 
Bwana254 said:
Sounds like you have a narrow gauge brain so you won't even come close to comprehending Kenya's logistical prowess and long term vision.
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If long term vision is to plan to build a railway from Mombasa to Malaba but "magically" ending up in Naivasha, you can keep that vision to yourself.
 
GERALD710 said:
Most cargo at the Port is Kenyan.
Most cargo is being cleared in Nairobi now.
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And that's what I thought but the OP make it seems as if the whole region is now using Mombasa Port.
 
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