More kickback secrets from SGR Kenya-Chinese Contract:
More kickback secrets from SGR Kenya-Chinese Contract:
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Ukipata Aerial unitagYeah right!
Kafrican
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Eti minutes ni evidence? Mtu yoyote anaieza akaandika minutes na Ku Photoshop signature, hebu leta hio minutes hapa tuone ...
Ile wakati wa election ilikua karibu kila wiki kunatoka 'minutes na internal memos' za IEBC ambazo ziko na muhuri na signatures alafu badaye IEBC inajitokeza na kusema hakujawahi kua na mkutana wowote hio siku.... Kuna Jamaa sikuhizi hua wanabidii ya kutoa city fake Sana ... Unakuta residential apartment imagining fiber ya 1GBps kumbe humo ndani kunaishi kama watu 15 kila mtu na computer kazi Yao ni misinformation ..
eliakeem
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Bro but think also (of) the credibility of the (tabloid) source (Sunday Nation).
Can not fake (serious) things to such an extent.
Serikali ya Kenya imeshikwa na mchina.
Sasa serikali wanaweka taarifa kwa magazeti ndio wakenya wapige kelele ndiposa mchina alegeleze kamba.
Baada ya kufanya kazi ovyo matokeo kwa wakenya ni hayo!
Lini mchina atatoa pesa ya malaba sgr? Xi pin ashasema hakuna pesa ya bure ya kuwekeza kwa white elephants!!!
Sasa serikali wanaweka taarifa kwa magazeti ndio wakenya wapige kelele ndiposa mchina alegeleze kamba.
Baada ya kufanya kazi ovyo matokeo kwa wakenya ni hayo!
Lini mchina atatoa pesa ya malaba sgr? Xi pin ashasema hakuna pesa ya bure ya kuwekeza kwa white elephants!!!
Kafrican
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He, It won't be the first time nor the last time a document that seemed genuine ended up being a fabrication from people with alteriror motives....
Kumbuka zile 'server logs' zilizo tolewa na muungano wa NASA karibia 7 pages inaonyesha kila kitu kilichofanywa Kwa server za IEBC kuiba kura... Alafu baadae tukaja tukaelezewa IEBC hata haitumii MySQL database wala windows server OS Bali inatumia Oracle database na Linux OS.....
Mwenye hili swala la SGR, sio mara ya Kwanza Kenya kuchukua loan kutoka Kwa Exim Bank, Wachina hawangeongeza hayo masharti yote na Kenya ikubali bila kujiuliza kwanini.... Haswa kama Huyo mwanahabari anasema tukifanya feasibility study yetu wenyewe hapo awali... Kumbuka hii project ya SGR imekua Kwa mipango ya serekali tangu 1970's enzi za moi...
Tena isitoshe, Huyo Uhuru Kenyatta ndo alikua Waziri wa Fedha wakati negotiations za SGR zinafanyika, yeye ndo alikua anahusika kuchambua Contract zote za loan...... Alitia huo mkataba alipokua Rais kwahivyo anajua vyote vilivyokua ndani ya hio contract .... Alafu eti aje Aongee live Kwa TV kwamba ni porojo tupu na awe anadanganya ..... Kuna watu wengi Sana walihusika Kwa negotiation ya hio loan, mbina Hadi sasa hakuna hata mmoja alijitokeza kusema upuzi kama hio... Enzi hizo Raila kama Waziri mkuu alikua incharge of government business alikua ana oversee project zote kubwa kubwa za Vision2030... Mbona mda wote tangu atoke serekali I hajawahi kusema lolote?
cmoney
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Do you know the distance from nairobi to mombasa 472 km you paid amount ksh 372billion while addis ababa to djibout 750 km they paid only ksh340bill for electric line train.They still gave you second hand diesel train and you have the guts to still believe on your so called leaders...You must be one of those rats who eat national cake to still defend this white elephant project.
eliakeem
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DUUU if dat is the case, then it's serious brother.
cmoney
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just take your time to read those screen shots i have attached the sgr project were meant to benefit few politicians and suffering to the rest even majority of kenyan didnt aprove of it on its ealry stages..This people are just trying to save face in here
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1) Actually the track distance of the actual rail is 609km vs the ethiopian one which has atrack leght of 756km
2) Ethiopia rail doesn't cater for wildlife crossing while ours is full of bridges and fenced all the way to cater for that.
2)Ethiopia have 16 train stations (both persenger and passing station) along the whole route because no one lives in between the two capitals, while Kenya SGR has a total of 33 stations. i.e a station every 18 km...
3) Ethiopia got 32 electric trains and 1000 rail wagons....while Kenya has 56 diesel trainsand about 1,800 wagons... With double stack capability.
4) and the most important factor of all. Ethiopia rail has a design capacity of 18million tonnes p.a with possibility of being upgraded to 25million p.a in future while Kenya SGR current design capacity is 22million tonnes with possibility of upgrading up to 35 million tonnes p.a...
You are one of those cluesell people who debate on issues when they have no facts just bunch of heresay , enda kule skyscrapeecity Kwa page ya Ethiopia SGR uangalie vile waEthiopia wenyewe wanakiri SGR Kenya ni superior kuliko Yao..... And ohh BTW unajua SGR ya Ethiopia Hadi Leo haijaanza scheduled services ya kubeba mizigo miaka mitatu tangu imalizike, Hadi wa Leo mizigo inabebwa mara moja moja bila specific schedule ... Sisi tulimaliza ujenzi mwaka mmoja baadaye na tayari kuna treni kibeo Hadi ukisafiri na usiku unapishana na kama treni Tatu hivi usiku wa manane!
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kitu kinangoja welding na poles na signals!Yeah right!
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"Kafrican, post: 30017864, member: 270766"]1) Actually the track distance of the actual rail is 609km vs the ethiopian one which has atrack leght of 756km..........................................
ANS.At $5.6m per kilometre for the track alone, Kenya's line cost close to three times the international standard and four times the original estimate.and according to all international news its 472km (293 mile) maybe if you want us to stand on your cooked up government website data
2) Ethiopia rail doesn't cater for wildlife crossing while ours is full of bridges and fenced all the way to cater for that..........................
ANS pathetic Directly after Awash station, the line crosses 60 meters above the Awash River canyon over a 155 meter long bridge, the main bridge of the railway
2)Ethiopia have 16 train stations (both persenger and passing station) along the whole route because no one lives in between the two capitals, while Kenya SGR has a total of 33 stations. i.e a station every 18 km...
ANS........There are 21 dedicated railway stations along the railway on ethiopian railway while there are nine passenger stations between Mombasa and Nairobi.
3) Ethiopia got 32 electric trains and 1000 rail wagons....while Kenya has 56 diesel trains and about 1,800 wagons... With double stack capability...........................................
ANS The Ethio-Djibouti standard gauge railway project boasts of more than 30 electrical locomotives supplemented by six diesel engines and 1,172 boxcars. Out of these, 1,100 are freight wagons, 41 locomotives (35 electric and six diesel) and 30 passenger coaches. The railway line is serviced by a 27.5kV overhead line.
4) and the most important factor of all. Ethiopia rail has a design capacity of 18 million tonnes p.a with possibility of being upgraded to 25million p.a in future while Kenya SGR current design capacity is 22million tonnes with possibility of upgrading up to 35 million tonnes p.a...
ANS.. Is Kenya's new railway good value for money?
You are one of those cluesell people who debate on issues when they have no facts just bunch of heresay , enda kule skyscrapeecity Kwa page ya Ethiopia SGR uangalie vile waEthiopia wenyewe wanakiri SGR Kenya ni superior kuliko Yao..... And ohh BTW unajua SGR ya Ethiopia Hadi Leo haijaanza scheduled services ya kubeba mizigo miaka mitatu tangu imalizike, Hadi wa Leo mizigo inabebwa mara moja moja bila specific schedule ... Sisi tulimaliza ujenzi mwaka mmoja baadaye na tayari kuna treni kibeo Hadi ukisafiri na usiku unapishana na kama treni Tatu hivi usiku wa manane!
A fool may be an otherwise intelligent person who has been hoodwinked, but a stupid person is one who lacks intelligence.You my friend is either a politician or a stupid.[/QUOTE]
ANS.At $5.6m per kilometre for the track alone, Kenya's line cost close to three times the international standard and four times the original estimate.and according to all international news its 472km (293 mile) maybe if you want us to stand on your cooked up government website data
2) Ethiopia rail doesn't cater for wildlife crossing while ours is full of bridges and fenced all the way to cater for that..........................
ANS pathetic Directly after Awash station, the line crosses 60 meters above the Awash River canyon over a 155 meter long bridge, the main bridge of the railway
2)Ethiopia have 16 train stations (both persenger and passing station) along the whole route because no one lives in between the two capitals, while Kenya SGR has a total of 33 stations. i.e a station every 18 km...
ANS........There are 21 dedicated railway stations along the railway on ethiopian railway while there are nine passenger stations between Mombasa and Nairobi.
- Mombasa Terminus[13]: Concentric circles and a central tower, representing a ripple in the ocean.
- Mariakani: Porticos are inspired by coconut trees, which are plentiful in the region.
- Miasenyi: White and brown stripes, inspired by the stripes of a zebra.
- Voi: V-shaped like a person with raised hands, representing the spirit of Harambee. V is also the first letter of Voi.
- Mtito Andei: Sloping roofs, representing Mount Kilimanjaro and the Chyulu Hills.
- Kibwezi: Based on traditional African architecture, with leaves that shade passengers from the sun.
- Emali: A closed fist, representing unity.
- Athi River: Shaped like the region's hills.
- Nairobi Terminus[14]: Two trains with a bridge on top.
3) Ethiopia got 32 electric trains and 1000 rail wagons....while Kenya has 56 diesel trains and about 1,800 wagons... With double stack capability...........................................
ANS The Ethio-Djibouti standard gauge railway project boasts of more than 30 electrical locomotives supplemented by six diesel engines and 1,172 boxcars. Out of these, 1,100 are freight wagons, 41 locomotives (35 electric and six diesel) and 30 passenger coaches. The railway line is serviced by a 27.5kV overhead line.
4) and the most important factor of all. Ethiopia rail has a design capacity of 18 million tonnes p.a with possibility of being upgraded to 25million p.a in future while Kenya SGR current design capacity is 22million tonnes with possibility of upgrading up to 35 million tonnes p.a...
ANS.. Is Kenya's new railway good value for money?
You are one of those cluesell people who debate on issues when they have no facts just bunch of heresay , enda kule skyscrapeecity Kwa page ya Ethiopia SGR uangalie vile waEthiopia wenyewe wanakiri SGR Kenya ni superior kuliko Yao..... And ohh BTW unajua SGR ya Ethiopia Hadi Leo haijaanza scheduled services ya kubeba mizigo miaka mitatu tangu imalizike, Hadi wa Leo mizigo inabebwa mara moja moja bila specific schedule ... Sisi tulimaliza ujenzi mwaka mmoja baadaye na tayari kuna treni kibeo Hadi ukisafiri na usiku unapishana na kama treni Tatu hivi usiku wa manane!
A fool may be an otherwise intelligent person who has been hoodwinked, but a stupid person is one who lacks intelligence.You my friend is either a politician or a stupid.[/QUOTE]