More kickback secrets from SGR Kenya-Chinese Contract:

[Janerose mzalendo]

1) Actually the track distance of the actual rail is 609km vs the ethiopian one which has atrack leght of 756km

2) Ethiopia rail doesn't cater for wildlife crossing while ours is full of bridges and fenced all the way to cater for that.

2)Ethiopia have 16 train stations (both persenger and passing station) along the whole route because no one lives in between the two capitals, while Kenya SGR has a total of 33 stations. i.e a station every 18 km...

3) Ethiopia got 32 electric trains and 1000 rail wagons....while Kenya has 56 diesel trainsand about 1,800 wagons... With double stack capability.

4) and the most important factor of all. Ethiopia rail has a design capacity of 18million tonnes p.a with possibility of being upgraded to 25million p.a in future while Kenya SGR current design capacity is 22million tonnes with possibility of upgrading up to 35 million tonnes p.a...


You are one of those cluesell people who debate on issues when they have no facts just bunch of heresay , enda kule skyscrapeecity Kwa page ya Ethiopia SGR uangalie vile waEthiopia wenyewe wanakiri SGR Kenya ni superior kuliko Yao..... And ohh BTW unajua SGR ya Ethiopia Hadi Leo haijaanza scheduled services ya kubeba mizigo miaka mitatu tangu imalizike, Hadi wa Leo mizigo inabebwa mara moja moja bila specific schedule ... Sisi tulimaliza ujenzi mwaka mmoja baadaye na tayari kuna treni kibeo Hadi ukisafiri na usiku unapishana na kama treni Tatu hivi usiku wa manane!

Wow! I love how you explain things. You are dealing with scumbags though. They always disagree and they have only seen the Kenyan SGR on pics

 

[Geza Ulole]

1) Actually the track distance of the actual rail is 609km vs the ethiopian one which has atrack leght of 756km

2) Ethiopia rail doesn't cater for wildlife crossing while ours is full of bridges and fenced all the way to cater for that.

2)Ethiopia have 16 train stations (both persenger and passing station) along the whole route because no one lives in between the two capitals, while Kenya SGR has a total of 33 stations. i.e a station every 18 km...

3) Ethiopia got 32 electric trains and 1000 rail wagons....while Kenya has 56 diesel trainsand about 1,800 wagons... With double stack capability.

4) and the most important factor of all. Ethiopia rail has a design capacity of 18million tonnes p.a with possibility of being upgraded to 25million p.a in future while Kenya SGR current design capacity is 22million tonnes with possibility of upgrading up to 35 million tonnes p.a...


You are one of those cluesell people who debate on issues when they have no facts just bunch of heresay , enda kule skyscrapeecity Kwa page ya Ethiopia SGR uangalie vile waEthiopia wenyewe wanakiri SGR Kenya ni superior kuliko Yao..... And ohh BTW unajua SGR ya Ethiopia Hadi Leo haijaanza scheduled services ya kubeba mizigo miaka mitatu tangu imalizike, Hadi wa Leo mizigo inabebwa mara moja moja bila specific schedule ... Sisi tulimaliza ujenzi mwaka mmoja baadaye na tayari kuna treni kibeo Hadi ukisafiri na usiku unapishana na kama treni Tatu hivi usiku wa manane!

evidence?

From the picture below i see similar bridges like the ones for Mombasa-Nairobi SGR!

Number of stations are 21 n not 16 as u claim

while for Mombasa-nairobi SGR there are 9 stations

Rolling stocks are 41 locomotives, 1,130 coaches/wagons n not 32 as u claim! more modern than what u have or u will ever have!

Wacha usenge!

 

[Oii]

"Kafrican, post: 30017864, member: 270766"]1) Actually the track distance of the actual rail is 609km vs the ethiopian one which has atrack leght of 756km..........................................
ANS.At $5.6m per kilometre for the track alone, Kenya's line cost close to three times the international standard and four times the original estimate.and according to all international news its 472km (293 mile) maybe if you want us to stand on your cooked up government website data

2) Ethiopia rail doesn't cater for wildlife crossing while ours is full of bridges and fenced all the way to cater for that..........................
ANS pathetic Directly after Awash station, the line crosses 60 meters above the Awash River canyon over a 155 meter long bridge, the main bridge of the railway

2)Ethiopia have 16 train stations (both persenger and passing station) along the whole route because no one lives in between the two capitals, while Kenya SGR has a total of 33 stations. i.e a station every 18 km...
ANS........There are 21 dedicated railway stations along the railway on ethiopian railway while there are nine passenger stations between Mombasa and Nairobi.

• Mombasa Terminus[13]: Concentric circles and a central tower, representing a ripple in the ocean.
• Mariakani: Porticos are inspired by coconut trees, which are plentiful in the region.
• Miasenyi: White and brown stripes, inspired by the stripes of a zebra.
• Voi: V-shaped like a person with raised hands, representing the spirit of Harambee. V is also the first letter of Voi.
• Mtito Andei: Sloping roofs, representing Mount Kilimanjaro and the Chyulu Hills.
• Kibwezi: Based on traditional African architecture, with leaves that shade passengers from the sun.
• Emali: A closed fist, representing unity.
• Athi River: Shaped like the region's hills.
• Nairobi Terminus[14]: Two trains with a bridge on top.

3) Ethiopia got 32 electric trains and 1000 rail wagons....while Kenya has 56 diesel trains and about 1,800 wagons... With double stack capability...........................................
ANS The Ethio-Djibouti standard gauge railway project boasts of more than 30 electrical locomotives supplemented by six diesel engines and 1,172 boxcars. Out of these, 1,100 are freight wagons, 41 locomotives (35 electric and six diesel) and 30 passenger coaches. The railway line is serviced by a 27.5kV overhead line.


4) and the most important factor of all. Ethiopia rail has a design capacity of 18 million tonnes p.a with possibility of being upgraded to 25million p.a in future while Kenya SGR current design capacity is 22million tonnes with possibility of upgrading up to 35 million tonnes p.a...
ANS.. Is Kenya's new railway good value for money?


You are one of those cluesell people who debate on issues when they have no facts just bunch of heresay , enda kule skyscrapeecity Kwa page ya Ethiopia SGR uangalie vile waEthiopia wenyewe wanakiri SGR Kenya ni superior kuliko Yao..... And ohh BTW unajua SGR ya Ethiopia Hadi Leo haijaanza scheduled services ya kubeba mizigo miaka mitatu tangu imalizike, Hadi wa Leo mizigo inabebwa mara moja moja bila specific schedule ... Sisi tulimaliza ujenzi mwaka mmoja baadaye na tayari kuna treni kibeo Hadi ukisafiri na usiku unapishana na kama treni Tatu hivi usiku wa manane!

A fool may be an otherwise intelligent person who has been hoodwinked, but a stupid person is one who lacks intelligence.You my friend is either a politician or a stupid.

[/QUOTE][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] kijamaa kiongo sana na english yake mob, kumbe ni kapanya kanakula national cake, hakana budi kudanganya na kutetea tumbo yake. Hatari sana.

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[Kafrican]

Can you back up those 4 claims, from real sources

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cmoney

1) Actually the track distance of the actual rail is 609km vs the ethiopian one which has atrack leght of 756km..........................................

ANS.At $5.6m per kilometre for the track alone, Kenya's line cost close to three times the international standard and four times the original estimate.and according to all international news its 472km (293 mile) maybe if you want us to stand on your cooked up government website data

There is a difference between Track distance/length and Route length..... You guys said Kenya SGR is 472km long while Ethiopia is 750km long which is NOT true... Route distance is the length of the route when you draw a linear line on the map of the route..... Track length is the actual length of the actual steel Rail meandering its way though all the coners along the route...
Kenya has an SGR route length of 472km and a track length of 609km
Ethiopia has an SGR route length of 656km and a track length of 765km

So when you are comparing Ethiopia Vs Kenya SGR You either use 472 Vs 656 or 609km Vs 765km you cannot however use 472 Vs 765 km like you guys have done!!!!!




2) Ethiopia rail doesn't cater for wildlife crossing while ours is full of bridges and fenced all the way to cater for that..........................

ANS pathetic Directly after Awash station, the line crosses 60 meters above the Awash River canyon over a 155 meter long bridge, the main bridge of the railway

I said Ethiopian line doesnot cater for wildlife, wewe unaniletea Quote ya kwamba kuna daraja la meter mia moja linavuka mto huko Ethiopia... WTF..... Sisi tuna daraja la km 7 pale tzavo national park ili tu wanyama wavuke na chini...
Tzavo bridge for animal crossing

Tena sehemu nyingi huko Ethiopia hazina Fence, Wafugaji ng'ombe na mbuzi nafanya maksudi ya kupandisha Mbuzi juu ya reli ili zigongwe ndo wapewe fidia... Angalau huku Kenya Ukiskia mnyama amegongwa hua ni fence imevunjwa ndo wanyama wakaingia, Kule Ethiopia kila siku lazma mbuzi kadhaa zigongwe...

Soma hii

We stopped twice between Lebu and Adama, including once for 5 minutes because we hit a goat at a road crossing

(the management company then sends some of its local staff to pay compensations). We arrived in Adama at 9:15 and stopped for about 40 min for an unknown reason. The train then passes through less populated areas at between 90 and 100 km/h; you're in the very basalt-y plain of the rift valley, surrounded by soon-to-be woken small volcanoes. After riding 2h15 from Adama, the train stopped in the bush not far from Metehara. I saw a goat on the side that couldn't seem to use its back legs. I thought it was giving birth ("cuuuute") until I realized there were more inanimate goats a few meters further. The train had gone full speed through a herd, killing 30. Locals came and there were soon 30ish people around the train. The four federal police guys who are always aboard the train went to discuss with them as usual. However the shepherd didn't want to let the train go until he gets compensated (for 70 goats, since some were pregnant and some cubs need their dead mother...). More federal and local police came, about 20 in total. The train left after 7 (!) hours of negotiations which, according the the Chinese boss in the train, included some calls to the Ethiopian minister of transport and the head of the federal police in Addis, at dusk (I suspect the shepherd let it go because they had to go home for diner, otherwise they would have stayed!). The boss told me "they do it on purpose to get money. They ask an unreasonable price. The other day we killed 12 camels and they asked for a million birr". Train travel in Ethiopia & Djibouti - train times & fares

2)Ethiopia have 16 train stations (both persenger and passing station) along the whole route because no one lives in between the two capitals, while Kenya SGR has a total of 33 stations. i.e a station every 18 km...

ANS........There are 21 dedicated railway stations along the railway on ethiopian railway while there are nine passenger stations between Mombasa and Nairobi.

• Mombasa Terminus[13]: Concentric circles and a central tower, representing a ripple in the ocean.
• Mariakani: Porticos are inspired by coconut trees, which are plentiful in the region.
• Miasenyi: White and brown stripes, inspired by the stripes of a zebra.
• Voi: V-shaped like a person with raised hands, representing the spirit of Harambee. V is also the first letter of Voi.
• Mtito Andei: Sloping roofs, representing Mount Kilimanjaro and the Chyulu Hills.
• Kibwezi: Based on traditional African architecture, with leaves that shade passengers from the sun.
• Emali: A closed fist, representing unity.
• Athi River: Shaped like the region's hills.
• Nairobi Terminus[14]: Two trains with a bridge on top.

Did you even bother to read the Wikipedia page where you got this ? Or you stopped imidiately you saw that info??? Let me bring the whole paragraph for you to read Again

There are 21 dedicated railway stations along the railway, all of them can serve as passing loop stations, as they have three tracks or more (except the Adigala station which has only two tracks). Four of the 21 railway stations are designed as passing loops only, so there is no freight loading / unloading or passenger service. Two of the remaining 17 stations are freight yards only and two others will be for passengers only. The remaining 13 stations can handle both passenger services as well as freight loading / unloading Addis Ababa–Djibouti Railway - Wikipedia

Hizo ulizoleta za Kenya ni passenger stations pekee, Haujaongelea kuhusu passing stations

Hii hapa EIA report ya SGR Kenya

40 stations are set along the line, of which 33 will be opened in short term, and all will
be opened in long term. Wherein, 2 are district stations, Mombasa Station and Nairobi
Station; 5 are intermediate stations, Mariakani Station, Voi Station, Mtito Andei
Station, Sultan Hamud Station and Athi River Station; and the remaining stations are
passing stations. The maximum station interval is 14.35km (Mazeras-Mariakani), the
minimal station interval is 6.9km (Marimbeti-Nairobi), and the average station
interval is 12.01km. The situations on the number and property of all stations and
switching station are shown in table 6 below.
The project will composed of 2 new district stations, 5 intermediate stations and 33
passing stations, wherein, 33 stations will be put into operation in short term and 7
stations will be reserved. See table 7 below for details.

Hizo passing station 24 za Kenya zote zimejengwa design moja zinafanana hivi

3) Ethiopia got 32 electric trains and 1000 rail wagons....while Kenya has 56 diesel trains and about 1,800 wagons... With double stack capability...........................................

ANS The Ethio-Djibouti standard gauge railway project boasts of more than 30 electrical locomotives supplemented by six diesel engines and 1,172 boxcars. Out of these, 1,100 are freight wagons, 41 locomotives (35 electric and six diesel) and 30 passenger coaches. The railway line is serviced by a 27.5kV overhead line.

So mimi nilisema wako na 32 electric trains wewe unaquote wakisema wako na 35 electric trains, mimi nikasema wako na 1000 wagons wewe unaquote 1,172 wagons.... Hapo unaona tofauti kubwa kiasi cha kunikosoa?????


4) and the most important factor of all. Ethiopia rail has a design capacity of 18 million tonnes p.a with possibility of being upgraded to 25million p.a in future while Kenya SGR current design capacity is 22million tonnes with possibility of upgrading up to 35 million tonnes p.a...

ANS.. Is Kenya's new railway good value for money?

Hakuna mahali hio article inaongelea kuhusu capacity ya SGR, alafu hio ripoti ya Worldbank inayoongelewa hapo inayosema hakuna haja ya kujenga SGR... mimi nishawahi isoma, Unajua inasema nini??? Inapredict Kenya itaweza kubeba only 9 million tonnes kwa mwaka kupitia SGR, Pia Inasema Tz itaweza beba only 6 million tonnes p.a..... Ni vile tu wanahabari wenu hua wamelala hautaona article ikigusia hayo huko Tz....

Hii hapa Ripoti iliondikwa na Ministry of Transport Uganda wakifanya comperizon,
Ukumbuke reli ya Kenya na Uganda ziko na same design capacity ya tonnage per year

You are one of those cluesell people who debate on issues when they have no facts just bunch of heresay , enda kule skyscrapeecity Kwa page ya Ethiopia SGR uangalie vile waEthiopia wenyewe wanakiri SGR Kenya ni superior kuliko Yao..... And ohh BTW unajua SGR ya Ethiopia Hadi Leo haijaanza scheduled services ya kubeba mizigo miaka mitatu tangu imalizike, Hadi wa Leo mizigo inabebwa mara moja moja bila specific schedule ... Sisi tulimaliza ujenzi mwaka mmoja baadaye na tayari kuna treni kibeo Hadi ukisafiri na usiku unapishana na kama treni Tatu hivi usiku wa manane!

A fool may be an otherwise intelligent person who has been hoodwinked, but a stupid person is one who lacks intelligence.You my friend is either a politician or a stupid.

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Umekimbilia google mbio mbio sasa unajiskia umekua "informed" kumbe hakuna lolote umeshika..... Watu wengine kama sisi tumekua tukufwatilia hii projecttangu inaze tunaijua mbele na nyuma, alafu watu kama nyinyi viherehere hamjui lolote mnakuja na nguvu kana kwamba mnajua kila kitu na hamjui lolote!
Rudi ukajipange alafu ndo uje vizuri

 

[Kafrican]

evidence?

From the picture below i see similar bridges like the ones for Mombasa-Nairobi SGR!

Number of stations are 21 n not 16 as u claim

while for Mombasa-nairobi SGR there are 9 stations

Rolling stocks are 41 locomotives, 1,130 coaches/wagons n not 32 as u claim! more modern than what u have or u will ever have!

Wacha usenge!

Nimeshampatia mwenzako jibu, Lakini vile nyinyi hua mnapenda kusahau sahau...

Soma vizuri

Ethiopia
There are 21 dedicated railway stations along the railway, all of them can serve as passing loop stations, as they have three tracks or more (except the Adigala station which has only two tracks). Four of the 21 railway stations are designed as passing loops only, so there is no freight loading / unloading or passenger service. Two of the remaining 17 stations are freight yards only and two others will be for passengers only. The remaining 13 stations can handle both passenger services as well as freight loading / unloading Addis Ababa–Djibouti Railway - Wikipedia



Kenya
40 stations are set along the line, of which 33 will be opened in short term, and all will be opened in long term. Wherein, 2 are district stations, Mombasa Station and Nairobi Station; 5 are intermediate stations, Mariakani Station, Voi Station, Mtito Andei
Station, Sultan Hamud Station and Athi River Station; and the remaining stations are passing stations. The maximum station interval is 14.35km (Mazeras-Mariakani), the minimal station interval is 6.9km (Marimbeti-Nairobi), and the average station
interval is 12.01km. The situations on the number and property of all stations and switching station are shown in table 6 below.
The project will composed of 2 new district stations, 5 intermediate stations and 33 passing stations, wherein, 33 stations will be put into operation in short term and 7 stations will be reserved. See table 7 below for details.

Hii hapa ni Mfano wa passing station, hii ni Nachu passing station ambayo iko upande wa Phase 2A kwenda Naivasha

As for persenger stations, Hii ni their biggest station, Addis ababa Station

Na hii Hapa ni biggest Station ya Kenya, Nairobi Terminus

Hebu Linganisha uniambie gani inaweza kua iligaramia pesa nyingi

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

cmoney





There is a difference between Track distance/length and Route length..... You guys said Kenya SGR is 472km long while Ethiopia is 750km long which is NOT true... Route distance is the length of the route when you draw it on a map..... Track length is the actual length of the actual steel Rail meandering its way though all the coners along the route...
Kenya has an SGR route length of 472km and a track length of 609km
Ethiopia has an SGR route length of 656km and a track length of 765km

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So when you are comparing Ethiopia Vs Kenya SGR You either use 472 Vs 656 or 609km Vs 765km you cannot however use 472 Vs 765 km like you guys have done!!!!!




2) Ethiopia rail doesn't cater for wildlife crossing while ours is full of bridges and fenced all the way to cater for that..........................

I said Ethiopian line doesnot cater for wildlife, wewe unaniletea Quote ya kwamba kuna daraja la meter mia moja linavuka mto huko Ethiopia... WTF..... Sisi tuna daraja la km 7 pale tzavo national park ili tu wanyama wavuke na chini...
Tzavo bridge for animal crossing

Tena sehemu nyingi huko Ethiopia hazina Fence, Wafugaji ng'ombe na mbuzi nafanya maksudi ya kupandisha Mbuzi juu ya reli ili zigongwe ndo wapewe fidia... Angalau huku Kenya Ukiskia mnyama amegongwa hua ni fence imevunjwa ndo wanyama wakaingia, Kule Ethiopia kila siku lazma mbuzi kadhaa zigongwe...

Soma hii




2)Ethiopia have 16 train stations (both persenger and passing station) along the whole route because no one lives in between the two capitals, while Kenya SGR has a total of 33 stations. i.e a station every 18 km...

Did you even bother to read the Wikipedia page where you got this ? Or you stopped imidiately you saw that info??? Let me bring the whole paragraph for you to read Again

There are 21 dedicated railway stations along the railway, all of them can serve as passing loop stations, as they have three tracks or more (except the Adigala station which has only two tracks). Four of the 21 railway stations are designed as passing loops only, so there is no freight loading / unloading or passenger service. Two of the remaining 17 stations are freight yards only and two others will be for passengers only. The remaining 13 stations can handle both passenger services as well as freight loading / unloading Addis Ababa–Djibouti Railway - Wikipedia

Hizo ulizoleta za Kenya ni passenger stations pekee, Haujaongelea kuhusu passing stations

Hii hapa EIA report ya SGR Kenya


Hizo passing station 24 za Kenya zote zimejengwa design moja zinafanana hivi

3) Ethiopia got 32 electric trains and 1000 rail wagons....while Kenya has 56 diesel trains and about 1,800 wagons... With double stack capability...........................................
So mimi nilisema wako na 32 electric trains wewe unaquote wakisema wako na 35 electric trains, mimi nikasema wako na 1000 wagons wewe unaquote 1,172 wagons.... Hapo unaona tofauti kubwa kiasi cha kunikosoa?????


4) and the most important factor of all. Ethiopia rail has a design capacity of 18 million tonnes p.a with possibility of being upgraded to 25million p.a in future while Kenya SGR current design capacity is 22million tonnes with possibility of upgrading up to 35 million tonnes p.a...
Is Kenya's new railway good value for money?
Hakuna mahali hio article inaongelea kuhusu capacity ya SGR, alafu hio ripoti ya Worldbank inayoongelewa hapo inayosema hakuna haja ya kujenga SGR... mimi nishawahi isoma, Unajua inasema nini??? Inapredict Kenya itaweza kubeba only 9 million tonnes kwa mwaka kupitia SGR, Pia Inasema Tz itaweza beba only 6 million tonnes p.a..... Ni vile tu wanahabari wenu hua wamelala hautaona article ikigusia hayo huko Tz....

Hii hapa Ripoti iliondikwa na Ministry of Transport Uganda wakifanya comperizon,
Ukumbuke reli ya Kenya na Uganda ziko na same design capacity ya tonnage per year

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You are one of those cluesell people who debate on issues when they have no facts just bunch of heresay , enda kule skyscrapeecity Kwa page ya Ethiopia SGR uangalie vile waEthiopia wenyewe wanakiri SGR Kenya ni superior kuliko Yao..... And ohh BTW unajua SGR ya Ethiopia Hadi Leo haijaanza scheduled services ya kubeba mizigo miaka mitatu tangu imalizike, Hadi wa Leo mizigo inabebwa mara moja moja bila specific schedule ... Sisi tulimaliza ujenzi mwaka mmoja baadaye na tayari kuna treni kibeo Hadi ukisafiri na usiku unapishana na kama treni Tatu hivi usiku wa manane!

Umekimbilia google mbio mbio sasa unajiskia umekua "informed" kumbe hakuna lolote umeshika..... Watu wengine kama sisi tumekua tukufwatilia hii projecttangu inaze tunaijua mbele na nyuma, alafu watu kama nyinyi viherehere hamjui lolote mnakuja na nguvu kana kwamba mnajua kila kitu na hamjui lolote!
Rudi ukajipange alafu ndo uje vizuri[/QUOTE]
You are adisgrace to kenya. Its now 17 days since uhuru promised mark masai the SGR contract copy which will clear the air on many issues hidden from the public. Instead of appauding the investigative report you are here defending a project that contractwise is unconstitutional by the mere fact that it denys public knowledge.
Am glad that this news is going to Museveni and like it or not, He is the target of this corrupt project and will reject it

 

[Kafrican]

You are adisgrace to kenya. Its now 17 days since uhuru promised mark masai the SGR contract copy which will clear the air on many issues hidden from the public. Instead of appauding the investigative report you are here defending a project that contractwise is unconstitutional by the mere fact that it denys public knowledge.
Am glad that this news is going to Museveni and like it or not, He is the target of this corrupt project and will reject it

Wewe ni anti--Everything-Kenya tokea mwanzo kwahivyo hata usiongeee!!! Sitashangaa ikiwa wewe ndo mmoja wa hao watu wanaochapisha ripoti feki ku support ideology yao, Eti tuliwapatia China uwezo wa kuchukua lolote watakalo tukishindwa kulipa!

 

[Zuwenna]

Nimeshampatia mwenzako jibu, Lakini vile nyinyi hua mnapenda kusahau sahau...

Soma vizuri

Ethiopia
There are 21 dedicated railway stations along the railway, all of them can serve as passing loop stations, as they have three tracks or more (except the Adigala station which has only two tracks). Four of the 21 railway stations are designed as passing loops only, so there is no freight loading / unloading or passenger service. Two of the remaining 17 stations are freight yards only and two others will be for passengers only. The remaining 13 stations can handle both passenger services as well as freight loading / unloading Addis Ababa–Djibouti Railway - Wikipedia



Kenya
40 stations are set along the line, of which 33 will be opened in short term, and all will be opened in long term. Wherein, 2 are district stations, Mombasa Station and Nairobi Station; 5 are intermediate stations, Mariakani Station, Voi Station, Mtito Andei
Station, Sultan Hamud Station and Athi River Station; and the remaining stations are passing stations. The maximum station interval is 14.35km (Mazeras-Mariakani), the minimal station interval is 6.9km (Marimbeti-Nairobi), and the average station
interval is 12.01km. The situations on the number and property of all stations and switching station are shown in table 6 below.
The project will composed of 2 new district stations, 5 intermediate stations and 33 passing stations, wherein, 33 stations will be put into operation in short term and 7 stations will be reserved. See table 7 below for details.

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Hii hapa ni Mfano wa passing station, hii ni Nachu passing station ambayo iko upande wa Phase 2A kwenda Naivasha

As for persenger stations, Hii ni their biggest station, Addis ababa Station

Na hii Hapa ni biggest Station ya Kenya, Nairobi Terminus

Hebu Linganisha uniambie gani inaweza kua iligaramia pesa nyingi

Kwanini Stesheni zenu mnapandia nje !!?

 

[Kafrican]

Kwanini Stesheni zenu mnapandia nje !!?

Unaingia na mbele unaelekea upande wa nyuma unapanda stairs/lift, Unavuka daraja alafu unatokea upande wa nyuma kupanda train

Hapo nimeweka mshale ndo unashuka stairs na kupanda treni

Hapa ilikua bado inajengwa, Lakini unaweza kuona hilo daraja linalokupeleka huko kwa kupanda

Ndani ya hilo daraja

 

[Geza Ulole]

Nimeshampatia mwenzako jibu, Lakini vile nyinyi hua mnapenda kusahau sahau...

Soma vizuri

Ethiopia
There are 21 dedicated railway stations along the railway, all of them can serve as passing loop stations, as they have three tracks or more (except the Adigala station which has only two tracks). Four of the 21 railway stations are designed as passing loops only, so there is no freight loading / unloading or passenger service. Two of the remaining 17 stations are freight yards only and two others will be for passengers only. The remaining 13 stations can handle both passenger services as well as freight loading / unloading Addis Ababa–Djibouti Railway - Wikipedia



Kenya
40 stations are set along the line, of which 33 will be opened in short term, and all will be opened in long term. Wherein, 2 are district stations, Mombasa Station and Nairobi Station; 5 are intermediate stations, Mariakani Station, Voi Station, Mtito Andei
Station, Sultan Hamud Station and Athi River Station; and the remaining stations are passing stations. The maximum station interval is 14.35km (Mazeras-Mariakani), the minimal station interval is 6.9km (Marimbeti-Nairobi), and the average station
interval is 12.01km. The situations on the number and property of all stations and switching station are shown in table 6 below.
The project will composed of 2 new district stations, 5 intermediate stations and 33 passing stations, wherein, 33 stations will be put into operation in short term and 7 stations will be reserved. See table 7 below for details.

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Hii hapa ni Mfano wa passing station, hii ni Nachu passing station ambayo iko upande wa Phase 2A kwenda Naivasha

As for persenger stations, Hii ni their biggest station, Addis ababa Station

Na hii Hapa ni biggest Station ya Kenya, Nairobi Terminus

Hebu Linganisha uniambie gani inaweza kua iligaramia pesa nyingi

The key word is will be opened soon! while Ethiopias the stations r already up running!

 

[Geza Ulole]

cmoney





There is a difference between Track distance/length and Route length..... You guys said Kenya SGR is 472km long while Ethiopia is 750km long which is NOT true... Route distance is the length of the route when you draw a linear line on the map of the route..... Track length is the actual length of the actual steel Rail meandering its way though all the coners along the route...
Kenya has an SGR route length of 472km and a track length of 609km
Ethiopia has an SGR route length of 656km and a track length of 765km

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So when you are comparing Ethiopia Vs Kenya SGR You either use 472 Vs 656 or 609km Vs 765km you cannot however use 472 Vs 765 km like you guys have done!!!!!




2) Ethiopia rail doesn't cater for wildlife crossing while ours is full of bridges and fenced all the way to cater for that..........................

I said Ethiopian line doesnot cater for wildlife, wewe unaniletea Quote ya kwamba kuna daraja la meter mia moja linavuka mto huko Ethiopia... WTF..... Sisi tuna daraja la km 7 pale tzavo national park ili tu wanyama wavuke na chini...
Tzavo bridge for animal crossing

Tena sehemu nyingi huko Ethiopia hazina Fence, Wafugaji ng'ombe na mbuzi nafanya maksudi ya kupandisha Mbuzi juu ya reli ili zigongwe ndo wapewe fidia... Angalau huku Kenya Ukiskia mnyama amegongwa hua ni fence imevunjwa ndo wanyama wakaingia, Kule Ethiopia kila siku lazma mbuzi kadhaa zigongwe...

Soma hii




2)Ethiopia have 16 train stations (both persenger and passing station) along the whole route because no one lives in between the two capitals, while Kenya SGR has a total of 33 stations. i.e a station every 18 km...

Did you even bother to read the Wikipedia page where you got this ? Or you stopped imidiately you saw that info??? Let me bring the whole paragraph for you to read Again

There are 21 dedicated railway stations along the railway, all of them can serve as passing loop stations, as they have three tracks or more (except the Adigala station which has only two tracks). Four of the 21 railway stations are designed as passing loops only, so there is no freight loading / unloading or passenger service. Two of the remaining 17 stations are freight yards only and two others will be for passengers only. The remaining 13 stations can handle both passenger services as well as freight loading / unloading Addis Ababa–Djibouti Railway - Wikipedia

Hizo ulizoleta za Kenya ni passenger stations pekee, Haujaongelea kuhusu passing stations

Hii hapa EIA report ya SGR Kenya


Hizo passing station 24 za Kenya zote zimejengwa design moja zinafanana hivi

3) Ethiopia got 32 electric trains and 1000 rail wagons....while Kenya has 56 diesel trains and about 1,800 wagons... With double stack capability...........................................
So mimi nilisema wako na 32 electric trains wewe unaquote wakisema wako na 35 electric trains, mimi nikasema wako na 1000 wagons wewe unaquote 1,172 wagons.... Hapo unaona tofauti kubwa kiasi cha kunikosoa?????


4) and the most important factor of all. Ethiopia rail has a design capacity of 18 million tonnes p.a with possibility of being upgraded to 25million p.a in future while Kenya SGR current design capacity is 22million tonnes with possibility of upgrading up to 35 million tonnes p.a...
Is Kenya's new railway good value for money?
Hakuna mahali hio article inaongelea kuhusu capacity ya SGR, alafu hio ripoti ya Worldbank inayoongelewa hapo inayosema hakuna haja ya kujenga SGR... mimi nishawahi isoma, Unajua inasema nini??? Inapredict Kenya itaweza kubeba only 9 million tonnes kwa mwaka kupitia SGR, Pia Inasema Tz itaweza beba only 6 million tonnes p.a..... Ni vile tu wanahabari wenu hua wamelala hautaona article ikigusia hayo huko Tz....

Hii hapa Ripoti iliondikwa na Ministry of Transport Uganda wakifanya comperizon,
Ukumbuke reli ya Kenya na Uganda ziko na same design capacity ya tonnage per year

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You are one of those cluesell people who debate on issues when they have no facts just bunch of heresay , enda kule skyscrapeecity Kwa page ya Ethiopia SGR uangalie vile waEthiopia wenyewe wanakiri SGR Kenya ni superior kuliko Yao..... And ohh BTW unajua SGR ya Ethiopia Hadi Leo haijaanza scheduled services ya kubeba mizigo miaka mitatu tangu imalizike, Hadi wa Leo mizigo inabebwa mara moja moja bila specific schedule ... Sisi tulimaliza ujenzi mwaka mmoja baadaye na tayari kuna treni kibeo Hadi ukisafiri na usiku unapishana na kama treni Tatu hivi usiku wa manane!

Umekimbilia google mbio mbio sasa unajiskia umekua "informed" kumbe hakuna lolote umeshika..... Watu wengine kama sisi tumekua tukufwatilia hii projecttangu inaze tunaijua mbele na nyuma, alafu watu kama nyinyi viherehere hamjui lolote mnakuja na nguvu kana kwamba mnajua kila kitu na hamjui lolote!
Rudi ukajipange alafu ndo uje vizuri[/QUOTE]
those r offices!

 

[Kafrican]

The key word is will be opened soon! while Ethiopias the stations r already up running!

Hio ilikua ni EIA report iliochapishwa 2012.... Passing station 24 zilishajengwa SGR ilipokamilika nimeonyesha picha kadhaa

 

[Geza Ulole]

Hio ilikua ni EIA report iliochapishwa 2012.... Passing station 24 zilishajengwa SGR ilipokamilika nimeonyesha picha kadhaa

evidence? i see office buildings instead of stations!

 

[Kafrican]

those r offices!

Umesoma hio ya Ethiopia? Out of a total of 21 stations ngapi zinatumika Kwa Abiria?????
Kusoma na kuelewa imekua shida sikuhizi uzee umekuingia nini?

 

[Kafrican]

evidence? i see office buildings instead of stations!

Enda ukagoogle what is passing station /passing loop alafu uje ukiwa unajua ili upunguze aibu ndogo ndogo

 

[Zuwenna]

Unaingia na mbele unaelekea upande wa nyuma unapanda stairs/lift, Unavuka daraja alafu unatokea upande wa nyuma kupanda train

Hapo nimeweka mshale ndo unashuka stairs na kupanda treni
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Hapa ilikua bado inajengwa, Lakini unaweza kuona hilo daraja linalokupeleka huko kwa kupanda

Ndani ya hilo daraja

Ingependeza kama treni ingepita Ndani ya jengo
ila stesheni Nzuri