'Na pesa yetu' ATCL already making massive losses... CAG report

[joto la jiwe]

Dikteta amefanya nini tena?

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Magufuli hoyeeeeeee

Hahahahaha, hahahahaha, hahahahaha.

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[joto la jiwe]

Nimekushika pabaya Leo. In this world of today you can't cheat us, we argue with verified facts not guess work. Ati Precision imekuwa ikimake profit for 20yrs when in fact their books are reading losses after losses.

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Akili ya kusoma vitabu vya mahesabu mtaipata wapi ninyi?, juzi DCI anasema pesa iliyolipwa ni KShs 21B, Rutto anasema ni 7B, sasa kama hata hesabu zenu wenyewe zinawachanganya, mtaweza kusoma hesabu za Precision Air?. Mtabaki kuwa Failed state forever.

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[joto la jiwe]

Ukitaka kujua jamaa ameshindwa ,his response is always hahahahahaha ......Tanzania/megafuli hoyeee

Hahahahaha, hahahahaha,
Ile safari ya pasaka umefikia wapi?

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[Janerose mzalendo]

Hahahahaha, hahahahaha,
Ile safari ya pasaka umefikia wapi?
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Hakuna safari ninayo. Nitarudi huko mkitoka kwenye kundi la dead states 💀 💀 💀

 

[Teargass]

Akili ya kusoma vitabu vya mahesabu mtaipata wapi ninyi?, juzi DCI anasema pesa iliyolipwa ni KShs 21B, Rutto anasema ni 7B, sasa kama hata hesabu zenu wenyewe zinawachanganya, mtaweza kusoma hesabu za Precision Air?. Mtabaki kuwa Failed state forever.

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Wewe umechanganywa kijana, this is the final report. The report indicates very clearly that there are losses year in year out, what maths do you then wants us to do? You said Precision air have been making profits for 20yrs and I have proven you wrong by showing you official financial report from the airline. What else do you want?

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[Teargass]

Akili ya kusoma vitabu vya mahesabu mtaipata wapi ninyi?, juzi DCI anasema pesa iliyolipwa ni KShs 21B, Rutto anasema ni 7B, sasa kama hata hesabu zenu wenyewe zinawachanganya, mtaweza kusoma hesabu za Precision Air?. Mtabaki kuwa Failed state forever.

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Kama kusoma ndo hajui, sasa hesabu ndo hutaweza?

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[kennedy0000]

From 6% kwa mwaka 2015 unasemaje? utilization kwa sasa ni 11hours kwa siku[ninazungumzia Q400]

It's easy to take 100% of the market when there are no other players.
Fastjet and the everyone else is struggling in Tanzania.
Even ATCL is struggling, only that they have the Tanzanian treasury behind them.

 

[Janerose mzalendo]

Wewe umechanganywa kijana, this is the final report. The report indicates very clearly that there are losses year in year out, what maths do you then wants us to do? You said Precision air have been making profits for 20yrs and I have proven you wrong by showing you official financial report from the airline. What else do you want?
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Hahaha ..atakuja na ile argument yake ya 'balance carrying forward'
Susan (tuusan come help your bro plz

 

[Teargass]

Hahaha ..atakuja na ile argument yake ya 'balance carrying forward'
Susan (tuusan come help your bro plz

Venye watanzania who are watching this thread wanamshika asiseme ujinga.

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[joto la jiwe]

Wewe umechanganywa kijana, this is the final report. The report indicates very clearly that there are losses year in year out, what maths do you then wants us to do? You said Precision air have been making profits for 20yrs and I have proven you wrong by showing you official financial report from the airline. What else do you want?

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Ninakumbuka mwanamziki wa Bongo flava anaitwa Darasa aliimba kwamba " Kumuelewesha chizi utajipa kazi". Precision Air ipo katika business for more than 20 yrs now, katika mawazo yako wamekua wakipata hasara year in year out, na bado wanaendelea na biashara na juzi wameagiza ndege zingine mpya.
Hayo ndio hasara za kuwa katika failed state, hata uwezo wa kufikiria ni mdogo.

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[kennedy0000]

PrecisioPrecision air wapo katika biashara kwa zaidi ya miaka 20 sasa na wanapata faida kwa domestic routes pekee, hata baada ya ATCL kuchukua 50% market share bado Precision Air inaendelea kupata faida, Tanzania is a big country.

Domestic routes zitaendelea kuwa main sources of revenue kwa ATCL hata baada ya kuanzisha safari za nje kutokana na competition ya usafiri wa ndege ulivyo kwa sasa, faida kubwa itakayopatikana kutokana na safari za nje ni utalii na investments.

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Small airline, operating small aircraft. At least they don't bite more than they can chew by buying dreamliners.
Still, Precision has been operating on losses for years. Hio ya profit ni ile upishi wa data mmezoea.

Go read their financial statements here - http://dse.co.tz/profile-company/315/financials

Precision Air audited full year reports
2014 Loss - Tsh 12.4 billion
2015 Loss - Tsh 83.8 billion
2016 Loss - Tsh 91.6 billion
2017 Loss - Tsh 27.2 billion

 

[joto la jiwe]

Hakuna safari ninayo. Nitarudi huko mkitoka kwenye kundi la dead states [emoji88] [emoji88] [emoji88]

Hahahahaha, hahahahaha, hahahahaha, kuanzia Leo nitaacha kutumia neno "Failed state"

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[NairobiWalker]

Profit= Revenue - Expenses

Expenses= Expenditure + loans repayments

There fore

Profit= Revenue - Expenditure + loans repayments

P = R - E +L
If you end up with (+)P, that is profit
If you end up with (-)P, that is lose

In case of ATCL, loans repayment due to previous loses is bigger than revenue, hence we end up with (-)P.

Kuhusu kuibiwa, Kenya ndio nchi inayoongaza hapa Afrika kwa kuibiwa, wala hakuna mbachofanya, mpo nafasi ya 123 katika rushwa, viongozi wenu ndio wanaowaibia wakiguswa mnawatetea kwa misingi ya ukabila, kama kuna nchi ya hovyo hapa duniani, Kenya ni miongoni mwao, ndio sababu imewekwa kundi la failed states.

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Dude, loan repayments is an expense. Loan repayment will eat into your profit thus profit and loan repayment can never same sign on opposite ends of an equation because they are inversely proportional.

I hate arguing with people who've never been to school. Go back to school and come back.

 

[kennedy0000]

The point here is that, Precision is making profit for 20 years now, 99% it flies domestically, that's why ATCL after capturing 50% of domestic market, it makes huge Revenue, most of you can't believe. Precision is still making profit despite of loosing 40% of its market share.

If you are clever enough can just ask yourselves, how is it possible for are company which has taken over a big share of lucrative market to make loss

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Peleka uongo jikoni CCM. Wapishi wa data nyinyi.
Precision is a huge loss making airline. Hasara yake hata ndio inaleta KQ chini.

Zaidi ya Tsh200 billion loss in the last 4 years alone.
Na bado tunangoja matokeo ya full year 2018.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Small airline, operating small aircraft. At least they don't bite more than they can chew by buying dreamliners.
Still, Precision has been operating on losses for years. Hio ya profit ni ile upishi wa data mmezoea.

Go read their financial statements here - http://dse.co.tz/profile-company/315/financials

Precision Air audited full year reports
2014 Loss - Tsh 12.4 billion
2015 Loss - Tsh 83.8 billion
2016 Loss - Tsh 91.6 billion
2017 Loss - Tsh 27.2 billion

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Hata Acacia walikuwa wakitoa Financial report zao karibu miaka yote walikuwa wanaonyesha wanapata hasara, Magufuli alipoingia madarakani wameanza kupata faida na kukubali kulipa taxes waliyokuwa wanakwepa kwa udanganyifu.

Swali la kujiuliza ni kwamba Precision is purely private company, kama wanapata hasara year in year out, vipi wanaendelea na biashara?, pesa za kuendesha na kulipa mishahara zinatoka wapi?, Nakummat na Uchumi walipopata hasara walishindwa hata kulipa rents, vipi hawa jamaa wanaweza kuendelea na operations na juzi wameagiza ndege zingine?.
Magufuli hoyeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

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[eliakeem]

Tanzania got a lying President who continuously lies for its citizen. Mnadanganywa ati uchumi wenyu unakuwa kwa asilimia 7 kumbe ni 4%, mnadanganywa ATLC imetengeneza profit kumbe iko na loss kuliko GDP yenyu, mnadanganywa ninyi ni nchi ya viwanda kumbe hata pesa za kuanzisha hivo viwanda hamna. Mnazindua projects hewa, mnanunua sare za polisi hewa. Pesa zinaenda mfukoni wa Mr Kiparangoto na nyinyi mmezubaa tu hapo Tandale, loliondo na Mbagala mnamwabudu dikteta.

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Ahaaa haaa haaa
Where did you copy this discourse. For sure I know it's not you who composed it. I know your handwriting.

 

[NairobiWalker]

Ahaaa haaa haaa
Where did you copy this discourse. For sure I know it's not you who composed it. I know your handwriting.

You're very useless Mr. Iriachimu.

 

[kennedy0000]

Hata Acacia walikuwa wakitoa Financial report zao karibu miaka yote walikuwa wanaonyesha wanapata hasara, Magufuli alipoingia madarakani wameanza kupata faida na kukubali kulipa taxes waliyokuwa wanakwepa kwa udanganyifu.

Swali la kujiuliza ni kwamba Precision is purely private company, kama wanapata hasara year in year out, vipi wanaendelea na biashara?, pesa za kuendesha na kulipa mishahara zinatoka wapi?, Nakummat na Uchumi walipopata hasara walishindwa hata kulipa rents, vipi hawa jamaa wanaweza kuendelea na operations na juzi wameagiza ndege zingine?.
Magufuli hoyeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

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You are really dumb.
Unataka kumaanisha private companies zikipata hasara haziwezi endelea na operations?
Kazi ya benki ni nini?
They just pile up more debt.

Alafu, sababu kampuni imeitwa 'private', sio kumaanisha haiwezi uza shares ama kuleta investors wengine. Inamaanisha tu kwamba haiwezi uza shares kwa stock exchange.

Uber is a private company. Making billions in losses and still surviving.
SpaceX is a private company. Has been making losses for long and still attracts investors.
Facebook, Amazon and virtually all companies have been private at some point, making losses and still surviving.

Your dumb ass thinks loss = bankruptcy.

There is no airline in Tanzania that has ever made a profit.

 

[eliakeem]

You're very useless Mr. Iriachimu.

Ahaaa haaa haaa
Mr bricks and mortar engineer.
I know the handwriting (for this matter, the flow of concept) of many members in here. That good flow of sweet Swahili cannot be composed by the guy.

 

[eliakeem]

You are really dumb.
Unataka kumaanisha private companies zikipata hasara haziwezi endelea na operations?
Kazi ya benki ni nini?
They just pile up more debt.

Alafu, sababu kampuni imeitwa 'private', sio kumaanisha haiwezi uza shares ama kuleta investors wengine. Inamaanisha tu kwamba haiwezi uza shares kwa stock exchange.

Uber is a private company. Making billions in losses and still surviving.
SpaceX is a private company. Has been making losses for long and still attracts investors.
Facebook, Amazon and virtually all companies have been private at some point, making losses and still surviving.

Your dumb ass thinks loss = bankruptcy.

There is no airline in Tanzania that has ever made a profit.

Ahaaa haaa haaa
Hasara for a decade? And go on operating??