NBA Season 2015 - 2016: Special thread

[Ubumuntu]

Kwanini asiwe kama game 7 atafanya kama alichokuwa anakifanya regular season?? Mpaka sasa nani kwako kutoka Warriors unaona yuko favorable kupata Finals MVP bila ubishi?? Kwa Cleveland anaonekana ni Lebron kama watashinda.. Ila kwangu mimi naona ni bora apewe Klay najua atakuwa moto sana game 7..

Kwa kuangalia stats za Finals so far na perfomances, Bron hana mshindani, iwe kashinda ama kashindwa. Nafikiri umeona stats zake, anaongoza kwa points, assists, rebounds, steals na blocks. Signs za all rounder hizo; jambo ambalo nimewahi kulisema kuwa ni moja ya vitu vinavyomfanya mchezaji kuwa GOAT. Green akiendelea kucheza kama sasa, naamini atakuja kuwa mmoja wa all rounders wazuri kutokea NBA.

 

[Tyta]

Hadi All star?????????? Kwahiyo Westbrook aliyeshinda MVP ya all star alifanya nini kwenye NBA Western Conference finals? hebu toa hiyo Category hapo kumpima mtu aiseeee.

hahahahah...................

 

[Ubumuntu]

It's only his third all star and you guys tripping like he's played 7 or 15 like the one you've mentioned.. Hebu acheni double standards hizi aiseee.

Great. That speaks volume braza. Najua tutarudi kwenye debate ya zamani: where was Curry? 7 NBA seasons, 3 All Stars appearances.

Oh! Double standards? Kwa hiyo wapenzi wake mkiaanza kumfananisha na GOATs ni sawa. Ila mkibanwa kwa CV yake ndogo, mnakimbilia kuongelea muda ambao amekuwepo NBA, siyo? Hii kwenye ni 'one standard', right?!?

 

[Alegria do povo]

Kwa kuangalia stats za Finals so far na perfomances, Bron hana mshindani, iwe kashinda ama kashindwa. Nafikiri umeona stats zake, anaongoza kwa points, assists, rebounds, steals na blocks. Signs za all rounder hizo; jambo ambalo nimewahi kulisema kuwa ni moja ya vitu vinavyomfanya mchezaji kuwa GOAT. Green akiendelea kucheza kama sasa, naamini atakuja kuwa mmoja wa all rounders wazuri kutokea NBA.

Hahahahah Curry can't become that man.... He's limited to what he's best at. And when it comes to that nobody edges his marksmanship. Kwanini tu tusikubali kuwa a player is whom he's. LeBron kabarikiwa kuwa whom he's no problem. He's a great all rounder no problem.. he's a great defender no problem... he's a great and efficient scorer no problem...

But Curry is whom he's man #period. A great shooter and an efficient scorer. Hayo mengine hayahitaji na sio lazima. he's 6'3 and few have been better rebounders at that height. He's not a good passer according to stats not because he can't but the team let's him not be a primary passer of the game..

We've got to embrace this moment. Halafu jiulize kwanini katika hii conversation kwanini humuweki Kevin Durant who's even taller.... kwanini hawekwi Westbrook and the likes of other greats. Them against LeBron tangu season inaanza?

It's because of only one thing... Curry has mastered the code of his best attributes. And he's beating the others on it. Tikiti haliwezi kuwa boga na simba wanaopanda miti are on a verge of extinction kama all rounder players ambao ni best kama LeBron.

#period

 

[Alegria do povo]

Great. That speaks volume braza. Najua tutarudi kwenye debate ya zamani: where was Curry? 7 NBA seasons, 3 All Stars appearances.

Oh! Double standards? Kwa hiyo wapenzi wake mkiaanza kumfananisha na GOATs ni sawa. Ila mkibanwa kwa CV yake ndogo, mnakimbilia kuongelea muda ambao amekuwepo NBA, siyo? Hii kwenye ni 'one standard', right?!?

Hivi hili nalo ni swali..... mention five players who've endured injuries kama huyu kijana. Hebu tuwe realistic. This kid's career had been hampered by injuries that's not even a question.

 

[Tyta]

Nilichokisema ni kwamba historia ya Curry ya kupata 'mafanikio' ndiyo inatengenezwa kuwa ndiyo sahihi kwa vijana kuiga. Kwamba Curry anafaa kuwa mfano wa kuigwa 'role model' kwa vijana wa kimarekani. Kama unaelewa hili suala kwa context ya Marekani, nafikiri itakufanya uelewe kwa wepesi ninachokisema. Bad boys kama kina Bron, RW na hata Durant, uwa hawapaswi kuwa role models wa watoto wao (wa the establishment).

..naomba unitajie ubad boy wa LBJ,Durant na RW......Infact none has any element of being a ''bad boy'' if literally meant...
..Watu hao uliowataja wanachukiwa kwa kuwa na mafanikio,full stop.....hali kadhalika wanamashabiki na wapenzi wengi sana...na wote wana media coverage ya kutosha tu..The problem is ''WITH SUCCESS,THERE COMES HATE''...
...nilichobaini ni kwamba watu mmeamua/tumeamua kuchoose side na kutokua rational katika kuchambua mambo.......

 

[Tyta]

Mag3, Tyta, Steph Curry, Alegria do povo, King Shaat, Mazigazi, shansarie na wapenzi wengine wote wa GSW nakupeni pongezi kwa kipindi chote cha hii series, kabla haijaanza nilikuwa na uhakika wa kuwafunga mapema, mkatufunga 2 bila, then 3-1 nikarusha taulo uwanjani, bahati mbaya taulo likanasa kwenye moja ya nguzo za ulingo, hivyo haikufika uwanjani.

...kijana una mbwembwe sana.....hizo mbio za sakafuni....ukingo jumatatu...

Natangaza rasmi kuliondoa lile taulo pale kwenye ulingo, which means nimefufua tena kwa asilimia 78 uhakika wa mimi kushinda game 7, naomba kutangaza rasmi bila kificho kwamba bingwa wa Mwaka huu ni Cavs, Finals MVP sihitaji kumtaja.

..KWA HIYO UMETENGUA KAULI SIO?!?!..basi sawa..you have yet to commit an offense...

Ni masikitiko makubwa kwamba timu inaweza kuwa na ushindi wa 73-9 huku ikiwa na unanimous MVP ikashindwa kuchukua ubingwa.

....haijawi kutokea,na haitatokea mkuu..

 

[Steph Curry]

Mwenzako anaongelea NBA Finals series, na siyo postseason yote. Finals' MVP hapatikani kwa kuangalia michezo yote ya postseason; wanaangalia umekuwa na umuhimu na thamani gani kwenye timu yako.

So far Curry, kama unanimous MVP haja-live to the stand of being the 1st unanimous MVP. The Finals ndiyo the biggest stage kwa MVP kuonyesha kwanini yeye ni MVP. Curry ameshindwa (so far) ku-prove yeye ni MVP kweli at the biggest stage, tofauti na akina MJ na Bron ambao wamewahi kuwa regular MVPs na Finals' MVPs. At the biggest stages, Curry amekuwa aki-choke: cheki All Stars games (mara 3 alizocheza) ameshindwa hata kuwa MVP hata mara moja?!? Ndiyo maana sisi humu tunamsema sana; ingawa media powerhouses (haswa US) zinalipotezea (hili la kuto-live to the 1st unanimous NBA MVP) kwa sababu ni kipenzi chao, wanachotaka kiwe mfano kwa watoto wao. Wakifanya hivyo (kum-toast na kum-blast) watawavunja mioyo na kuwakatisha tamaa watoto wanaoelekezwa waige mfano wa Curry.

Curry amekuwa akichoke kwenye biggest stage.. Zipi hizo labda uziseme sasa.. Last year game tatu za mwisho zilizoiwezesha Warriors kuchukua ubingwa aliakuwa na wastani wa points 28, Assist 6.3 na Rebound 5.. Sasa huko ni kuchoke?? Na hizi tatu za mwisho kwa Cleveland amechoke wakati amefunga 38, 25, 30 Points.. Iggy mwaka jana alichukua Finals MVP kwasababu majukumu makubwa ya kuipa timu ubingwa ilikuwa ni kumzuia Lebron na aliyeweza kufanya hivyo ni Iggy.. Curry hakuna anayebisha kwamba si mzuri sana kwenye defense, lakini offensively yeye ndiye aliyeisaidia sana Warriors kuchukua ubingwa kwa hizo Stats nilizokuwekea..

Alafu hivi unajua MVP wa All Star anapatikanaje?? U just need to be a ball hog to win it.. Sasa Curry hawezi kushindana na Russ kwenye hilo.. Russ ni mbinafsi na hiyo ndio award pekee ambaye anaona anaweza kuishinda kwenye career yake..

 

[Steph Curry]

Braza uwa unasoma na kunielewa kweli? Au ndiyo tatizo la comprehension alilolisema Ngabu nawe unalo? Ni wapi nimesema Curry hastahili kusifiwa kwa sababu anatoka familia ya kitajiri? Hivi ndivyo ulivyoelewa kile nilichokiandika?

Nilichokisema ni kwamba historia ya Curry ya kupata 'mafanikio' ndiyo inatengenezwa kuwa ndiyo sahihi kwa vijana kuiga. Kwamba Curry anafaa kuwa mfano wa kuigwa 'role model' kwa vijana wa kimarekani. Kama unaelewa hili suala kwa context ya Marekani, nafikiri itakufanya uelewe kwa wepesi ninachokisema. Bad boys kama kina Bron, RW na hata Durant, uwa hawapaswi kuwa role models wa watoto wao (wa the establishment). Ila good boys kama akina Curry na Klay ndiyo wanapaswa kuigwa. Kama unaelewa nguvu ya media powerhouses kwa Marekani (katika kutengeneza 'heroes' and 'villains') pia utanielewa haraka. Hivyo hilo la Curry kuwa 'good boy' anayepaswa kuwa role model limemfanya asiwe akiwa-blasted na toasted na media. Ndiyo maana, kama nilivyosema huwezi kusikia media powerhouses wakimsema vibaya 'good boy' wao ili wasiwauzi watoto wao wanaopaswa kujifunza kutoka kwa Curry. Hiki ndicho nilichokisema. Yeye asifiwe tu, ila akosolowe pia kama ambavyo akina Bron, RW na Durant wanavyofanywa.

Yaani ESPN walivyokuwa wanamsifia Lebron hamkuwa mnaona?? ESPN leo wamehamia kwa Curry imekuwa nongwa?? Mbona TNT akina Barkley wanamponda sana Curry kwa kumuita soft.. Curry yawezekana hapondwi kwasababu hakuna ambacho unaweza kumponda nacho.. Mbona Klay alivyoachana na mpenzi wake Hannah media zilimshambulia sana mpaka hii season inaanza akapumzishwa kwa mechi kadhaa sababu hakuwa anaperfrom vizuri..

KD ni lini ameshambuliwa na media?? Russ ni lini amekuwa akiandamwa na media?? Au kwasababu hawapewi attention kama anayopewa Curry ndio imekuwa tatizo?? Lebron alishapewa hiyo attention na media kwa kipindi kirefu tu, sasa ni zamu ya Curry msiumie..

 

[Steph Curry]

2015-16 Stats says...

Stephen Curry
PPG APG RPG PER
30.1 6.7 5.4 31.56

Lebron James
PPG APG RPG PER
25.3 6.8 7.4 27.64

Hivi kwa hizo Stats mi nachoona ni Lebron kamzidi Curry Rebounds tu na Curry yeye amemzidi Lebron Steals.. Curry ana mchezo wake wa kipekee kabisa, Lebron ana mchezo wake pia.. Tukiwa tunajudge mchezoji kwa Stats tu na si kile anchoipa timu yake basi Russ amemzidi Lebron kwa mbali sana..

Ona stats za Russel Westbrook..

PPG APG RPG PER
23.5 10.4 7.8 27.64

Curry is not what u guys want him to be.. He is on his own lane..


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[Ubumuntu]

Hahahahah Curry can't become that man.... He's limited to what he's best at. And when it comes to that nobody edges his marksmanship. Kwanini tu tusikubali kuwa a player is whom he's. LeBron kabarikiwa kuwa whom he's no problem. He's a great all rounder no problem.. he's a great defender no problem... he's a great and efficient scorer no problem...

But Curry is whom he's man #period. A great shooter and an efficient scorer. Hayo mengine hayahitaji na sio lazima. he's 6'3 and few have been better rebounders at that height. He's not a good passer according to stats not because he can't but the team let's him not be a primary passer of the game..

We've got to embrace this moment. Halafu jiulize kwanini katika hii conversation kwanini humuweki Kevin Durant who's even taller.... kwanini hawekwi Westbrook and the likes of other greats. Them against LeBron tangu season inaanza?

It's because of only one thing... Curry has mastered the code of his best attributes. And he's beating the others on it. Tikiti haliwezi kuwa boga na simba wanaopanda miti are on a verge of extinction kama all rounder players ambao ni best kama LeBron.

#period

Great. Then, don't compare Curry with Bron and MJ. Curry is currently the best shooter (he might go down as the best ever, if he keeps on doing what is doing now consistently i.e. for more than just two seasons). But he aint the best baller.

Unasema all rounders are on the verge of extinction, wakati GSW kuna Green? Kama Green akiendelea kucheza hivi, he is the next all rounder to watch.

BTW, Durant na Westbrook sijawazungumzia kwa sababu sijasikia wao wakilinganishwa na Bron na MJ kama GOATs. But, Curry's fanatics do so.

 

[Alegria do povo]

Great. Then, don't compare Curry with Bron and MJ. Curry is currently the best shooter (he might go down as the best ever, if he keeps on doing what is doing now consistently i.e. for more than just two seasons). But he aint the best baller.

Unasema all rounders are on the verge of extinction, wakati GSW kuna Green? Kama Green akiendelea kucheza hivi, he is the next all rounder to watch.

BTW, Durant na Westbrook sijawazungumzia kwa sababu sijasikia wao wakilinganishwa na Bron na MJ kama GOATs. But, Curry's fanatics do so.

Hahahahaha kaka.... as long as you don't appreciate what this man is doing then you don't have respect for this game. .yaani Curry is not a baller?

Sasa kama Curry ain't a baller Irving ni nani?

 

[Ubumuntu]

Hivi hili nalo ni swali..... mention five players who've endured injuries kama huyu kijana. Hebu tuwe realistic. This kid's career had been hampered by injuries that's not even a question.

This is one of the great misconception re Curry's late NBA surge. He has been in the league for 7 seasons; he only missed most games (due to injuries) in the 2011/12 seasons. That is according to NBA stats. In that season, he played only 26 games (with 23 starts).

"Missed 40 games due to injury, including the last 28 games (3/13-4/26) with a sprained right ankle and subsequent surgery on the ankle (performed 4/25)...Also missed nine previous games with a sprained right ankle (12/28, 1/6-1/18) and three with a strained tendon in his right foot (2/28, 3/2-3/4)."

His career injury stats for other seasons:
1. 2009/10: played 80 games (77 starts). Missed 2 games
"with a sprained left ankle."

2. 2010/11: played 74 games (all starts). "Missed eight games due to a sprained right ankle (two games from 10/31 - 11/3 & six games from 12/10 - 12/21)."

3. 2012/13: played 78 games (all starts), and 12 playoff games (all starts). No injuries!

4. 2013/14: 78 games (all starts) and 7 postseason games. No injuries!

5. 2014/15: over 80 games (all starts) and 21 postseason games. "Missed one game due to rest and one game due to right foot soreness."

So, it only the 2011/12 season that would count in this Curry's injury narrative. Despite the injuries in that season, he did these:

"Ranked tied for second in the NBA in three-point percentage, hitting a career-best .455 from long range.

• Posted career-highs in field goal percentage (.490) and three-point percentage (.455) to go with an .809 mark from the free throw line, becoming just the second player in NBA history to hit at least 46.0 percent from the field, 43.0 percent from three-point land and 80.0 percent from the free throw line in three consecutive seasons (joining Steve Nash, who did so in five-straight seasons from 2004-05 to 2008-09) and the only player to accomplish the feat in his first three seasons in the league.

• His three-point percentage (.455) ranked as the fourth-best single-season percentage in franchise history.

• Posted season highs of 36 points on 13 made field goals (six threes) in 40 minutes on 2/18 at Memphis...Also scored 36 points on 2/9 at Denver...Dished out a season-high 12 assists on 2/2 vs. Utah and swiped a season-best six steals on 12/26 vs. Chicago.

• One of only seven players to post multiple games with at least 36 points and six assists (joining LeBron James, Russell Westbrook, Kobe Bryant, Tony Parker, Chris Paul and Deron Williams).

• Posted 32 points, seven assists, six rebounds and four steals on 1/25 vs. Portland, one of only four players to tally those figures in a game (joining LeBron James, Monta Ellis, John Wall).

• Tallied 21 points, 10 assists, seven rebounds and six steals on 12/26 vs. Chicago, making him one of only two players to post those figures in a game (John Wall) and one of only three active players to have posted those numbers in multiple games in a career (Jason Kidd and Chris Paul)."

Source: Stephen Curry Stats, Video, Bio, Profile | NBA.com

You asked me to name five players (I don't know why you chose 5, and not 1 or 20!) who have 'similar' injury history. Now, I give you Black Mamba's career injuries infograph:

 

[Ubumuntu]

Hahahahaha kaka.... as long as you don't appreciate what this man is doing then you don't have respect for this game. .yaani Curry is not a baller?

Sasa kama Curry ain't a baller Irving ni nani?

Kaka, I have always said, and I'm saying again this: Curry is currently the best shooter and the most entertaining player in the league. The problems I have with his fanatics is naming him 'the best ever'; and comparing him to GOATs like MJ and Bron, who have consistently been best players and entertainers since before and after entering the league. Yes, he is now the best shooter and player. But, to be even considered the best ever and be compared to other GOATs, let him do what he is doing now for more than 2 seasons i.e. consistently, he has to the best player, breaking records as an individual and helping his team to win championships or at least reach NBA's biggest stage.

Re the word 'baller', don't take it out of context. I believe you are mature enough to apprehend what I write and maintain consistency with my argument.

 

[Alegria do povo]

Kaka, I have always said, and I'm saying again this: Curry is currently the best shooter and the most entertaining player in the league. The problems I have with his fanatics is naming him 'the best ever'; and comparing him to GOATs like MJ and Bron, who have consistently been best players and entertainers since before and after entering the league. Yes, he is now the best shooter and player. But, to be even considered the best ever and be compared to other GOATs, let him do what he is doing now for more than 2 seasons i.e. consistently, he has to the best player, breaking records as an individual and helping his team to win championships or at least reach NBA's biggest stage.

This is it..... mwanzo emotions zilikuchukua sana. He's yet to be the best ever but he's currently what you've said. Kudos

 

[Ubumuntu]

This is it..... mwanzo emotions zilikuchukua sana. He's yet to be the best ever but he's currently what you've said. Kudos

Mwanzo upi ndugu? Pengine hujanielewa tu, mimi huo ndiyo mtazamo wangu juu ya Steph toka mwanzo ndani ya thread hii.

 

[King Shaat]

Hahahahah Curry can't become that man.... He's limited to what he's best at. And when it comes to that nobody edges his marksmanship. Kwanini tu tusikubali kuwa a player is whom he's. LeBron kabarikiwa kuwa whom he's no problem. He's a great all rounder no problem.. he's a great defender no problem... he's a great and efficient scorer no problem...

But Curry is whom he's man #period. A great shooter and an efficient scorer. Hayo mengine hayahitaji na sio lazima. he's 6'3 and few have been better rebounders at that height. He's not a good passer according to stats not because he can't but the team let's him not be a primary passer of the game..

We've got to embrace this moment. Halafu jiulize kwanini katika hii conversation kwanini humuweki Kevin Durant who's even taller.... kwanini hawekwi Westbrook and the likes of other greats. Them against LeBron tangu season inaanza?

It's because of only one thing... Curry has mastered the code of his best attributes. And he's beating the others on it. Tikiti haliwezi kuwa boga na simba wanaopanda miti are on a verge of extinction kama all rounder players ambao ni best kama LeBron.

#period

SAY NO MORE, CUZ!.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Niliwahi kuongelea humu kuhusu nadharia njama zilizopo kwa muda mrefu kuhusu matokeo ya michezo ya ligi za NBA kupangwa. Nikadhihakiwa kwamba nilisema hivyo kisa tu iliyodhaniwa kuwa ni timu yangu imetolewa. Haya sasa, baada ya mke wa 'golden boy' kutoa tuhuma hizo baada ya timu ya mumewe kufungwa, hizo tetesi zimeibuka tena. Someni wenyewe hiyo makala hapo chini.

Here’s How Much Money ABC & the NBA Make with an NBA Finals Game 7

Are the NBA Finals rigged? That’s what Ayesha Curry, wife of Golden State Warriors’ guard and reigning league MVP Stephen Curry, tweeted last night. The message was posted after Curry received his sixth foul and was ejected from the NBA Finals’ Game 6—which was won by the Cleveland Cavaliers, extending the series for a final, decisive Game 7 on Sunday.

“I’ve lost all respect sorry this is absolutely rigged for money… Or ratings in not sure which,” Ayesha Curry post in a tweet, which she later deleted. “I won’t be silent . Just saw it live sry.”

Granted, the wife of a player is hardly an unbiased observer. But Ayesha Curry is not the only one who’s been claiming that the NBA Finals are “absolutely rigged.”

Tim Donaghy, the disgraced former NBA referee who was pushed out of the league after a scandal involving his gambling on games, told Sports Illustrated this week that he thought the NBA decided to suspend the Warriors’ Draymond Green for the Finals’ Game 5 in order to ensure more games would be played. “It gives Cleveland a better chance of prolonging the series,” Donaghy said of the questionable suspension of Green, the Warriors’ best defender.

Donaghy also said that in his experience, referees always seemed to favor teams that were losing in a playoff series, in order give them the best chance of prolonging it. “It was always a situation where the team down in the series was going to benefit from those calls,” he said.

There is no proof whatsoever that anyone has rigged anything. But plenty of Warriors’ fans, as well as the conspiracy-minded in general, are quick to note that the Warriors had dominated before Green’s suspension. They were up 3-1 in the series and neither Curry nor his sharp-shooting “Splash Brothers” teammate Klay Thompson had even been playing up to their potential. All the Warriors needed was to win one more game to take the championship. Then Green was suspended, and the Warriors lost Game 5 at home. Warriors’ starting center Andrew Bogut was hurt in that same game and is now out for the series, making it easier for the Cavaliers to trounce to victory in Game 6 and force a Game 7.

And, the conspiracy-minded are quick to point out, the NBA and ABC—the network with broadcast rights to the Finals—stand to make big money because the series didn’t end in only five games. Just how much money?

Well, last year, AdAge cited data from ispot.tv indicating that ABC pulled in $223.9 million in advertising revenues over the course of last year’s NBA Finals matchup, which again featured the Cavaliers versus the Warriors. That series only lasted six games, however. A Game 7 is typically a ratings and money-making bonanza. AdAge estimated that had there been a Game 7 last year, it would have likely drawn an audience of 32 million viewers and a 21.2 household rating, up from an average of 20 million viewers and an 11.6 rating for the previous games in the 2015 NBA Finals.

As for the advertising revenues, “A seventh game likely would have tossed another $45 million on the pile,” AdAge reported.

So, if the 2016 NBA Finals had ended with a Game 5 victory by the Warriors, ABC would have missed out on the ad revenues of Game 6 and Game 7—which will probably total in excess of $80 million, based on estimates from last year.

This figure doesn’t include any other money made based on the NBA Finals going beyond five games. The arenas hosting the games obviously benefit financially when there are more games, and ticket sellers are cashing in thanks to added drama and simply more games being played. Players, sponsors, and the league in general also stand to benefit, in largely unquantifiable ways, when the NBA Finals is competitive and extends to a full seven games.

So while there’s no real evidence that the NBA Finals are rigged, it’s quite clear that lots of people would be getting rich if they were.

Source

 

[shansarie]

Lebrone ana hasira inawezekana wakachukua ubingwa jumapili,ila wakifungwa pia sitashangaa

 

[mpepo]

Naomba kujua hii game itapigwa saa ngapi kwa saa za huku kwetu? na ni tv gani?