Nyerere akiongelea kinachoendelea sasa Congo, Wakongo wanapenda mipaka lakini hawataki watu flani ndani ya mipaka ila hawataki kuwapa nchi yao

Nyerere akiongelea kinachoendelea sasa Congo, Wakongo wanapenda mipaka lakini hawataki watu flani ndani ya mipaka ila hawataki kuwapa nchi yao

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Solution ni moja tu, Kama Congo imewachoka wabanyamulenge ni heri wawape nchi yao lasivyo hakutakuwa na mwisho wa hizi vita huko Congo.

Ni tatizo lilioanza zamani sio siku hizi.

 

Provinces​

The population of the (new) provinces of the Democratic Republic of the Congo according to the last census and more recent projections.

NameAbbr.Area
A (km²)		Population
Projection (P)
2015-07-01		Population
Projection (P)
2020-07-01
Congo (Dem. Rep.)COD2,345,00086,026,000101,935,800
Bas-UeleBUL148,3311,138,0001,369,600
ÉquateurEQU103,9021,528,0001,856,000
Haut-KatangaHKA132,4254,617,0005,718,800
Haut-LomamiHLO108,2042,957,0003,662,800
Haut-UeleHUL89,6831,864,0002,242,500
IturiITU65,6583,650,0004,392,200
KasaïKAS95,6312,801,0003,417,000
Kasaï-CentralKSC59,5003,317,0004,045,300
Kasaï-OrientalKSO9,5453,145,0003,864,300
KinshasaKIN9,96511,575,00014,565,700
Kongo Central (Bas-Congo)KGC53,9205,575,0006,838,500
KwangoKWA89,9742,152,0002,618,700
KwiluKWI78,5335,490,0006,682,300
LomamiLOM56,4262,443,0003,001,900
LualabaLUA121,3082,570,0003,183,300
Maï-NdombeMND127,2431,852,0002,254,100
ManiemaMAN132,2502,333,0002,856,300
MongalaMON58,1411,740,0002,114,100
Nord-Kivu [North Kivu]NKV59,4836,655,0008,147,400
Nord-UbangiNUB56,6441,269,0001,542,500
SankuruSAN104,3312,110,0002,593,400
Sud-Kivu [South Kivu]SKV64,7915,772,0007,066,400
Sud-UbangiSUB51,6482,458,0002,987,100
TanganyikaTAN134,9403,062,0003,792,200
TshopoTSO199,5672,352,0002,829,700
TshuapaTSU132,9571,600,0001,944,500
  • Institut National de la Statistique, République Démocratique du Congo (web).

Major Cities​

NameAdm.Population
Estimate (E)
2004-07-01
1KinshasaKIN7,273,947
2LubumbashiHKA1,283,380
3Mbuji-MayiKSO1,213,726
4KanangaKSC720,362
5KisanganiTSO682,599
6BukavuSKV471,789
7KolweziLUA456,446
8LikasiHKA367,219
9TshikapaKAS366,503
 
In the late 1990s, political scientist René Lemarchand stated that the main ethnic groups claimed the Banyamulenge numbered around 50,000 to 70,000. Gérard Prunier quotes around 60,000–80,000, a figure of about 3–4 percent of the total provincial population

Most of the Banyamulenge are descendants of Rwandans who fled political repression and population pressure in Rwanda during the 18th and 19th centuries;(7) other Banyarwanda immigrated to the area in more recent times, some fleeing oppression in Rwanda in 1959.

The Banyabwisha speak Bwisha (Kinyabwisha) dialect, which developed as a result of inter- marriage and mingling between the indigenous Hunde, and other ethnic groups who occupy the Rutshuru Territory of Democratic Republic of Congo. This region is in the North Kivu province.

What tribe is Banyamulenge

They are mostly seen as affiliated to the Tutsi of the African Great Lakes region, and they speak a language close to Kirundi (Burundi) and Kinyarwanda (Rwanda). The Banyamulenge settled in South Kivu between the 16th and 18th centuries, having come from what are today Burundi, Rwanda, Tanzania and Uganda.
 
Kuna uzi wangu nimesema haya mambo ya Congo yana hitaji mjadala mpana wa makubaliano na mazungumzo ya amani kuliko hii mihemko ya nguvu za kivita na majeshi inayo endelea Congo.

Suala la Congo litazamwe zaidi katika njia ya amani kutatua migogoro njia ya vita itazidi kugharimu maisha ya Wacongo.

Mpaka sasa sijui ni Watanzania wangapi wanaojua majeshi yetu yapo Congo kupambana na waasi kwa sababu gani ? Na malalamiko ya serikali ya Congo ni yapi na malalamiko ya waasi ni yapi ?

Watanzania wengi ni kuunga tela tu bila kujua hasa uwepo wa askari wetu Congo una sababu gani kuu hasa za kutushawishi.

Hii haina tofauti na maswali wanao uliza raia wa marekani kwa nini pesa zao za kodi zina gharamia vita vya Ukraine bila sababu ya msingi wao kupewa
 
What language is Banyamulenge

The Banyamulenge are culturally and socially distinct from the Tutsi of North Kivu, with most speaking Kinyamulenge, a mix of Kinyarwanda (official language of Rwanda), Kirundi (spoken primarily in Burundi), Ha language (spoken by Ha people, one of the largest ethnic groups in ethnically diverse Tanzania), and Swahili.

Who are Congolese Tutsi
Tutsi in the Congo

They are descendants of migrating Rwandan, Burundian and Tanzanian pastoralists. And secondly there are Tutsi in Masisi North Kivu and Kalehe in South Kivu – being part of the Banyarwanda (Hutu and Tutsi) community
 
So special said:
Kuna uzi wangu nimesema haya mambo ya Congo yana hitaji mjadala mpana wa makubaliano na mazungumzo ya amani kuliko hii mihemko ya nguvu za kivita na majeshi inayo endelea Congo.

Suala la Congo litazamwe zaidi katika njia ya amani kutatua migogoro njia ya vita itazidi kugharimu maisha ya Wacongo.

Mpaka sasa sijui ni Watanzania wangapi wanaojua majeshi yetu yapo Congo kupambana na waasi kwa sababu gani ? Na malalamiko ya serikali ya Congo ni yapi na malalamiko ya waasi ni yapi ?

Watanzania wengi ni kuunga tela tu bila kujua hasa uwepo wa askari wetu Congo una sababu gani kuu hasa za kutushawishi.

Hii haina tofauti na maswali wanao uliza raia wa marekani kwa nini pesa zao za kodi zina gharamia vita vya Ukraine bila sababu ya msingi wao kupewa
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Una semaje kuhusu hii balkanisation of DRC

bishops warn against ‘balkanization’ of central African nation
By Ngala Killian Chimtom
Feb 27, 2023
|
Africa Correspondent

YAOUNDÈ, Cameroon – Just weeks after Pope Francis visited the country, the Catholic bishops in the Democratic Republic of Congo have again raised concerns over what they say is a “cynical plan” by foreign armies, rebel groups and multinational companies to balkanize the country.

The eastern part of the DRC has been plagued by violence for years, with dozens of rebel groups fighting each other and the government.

Francis visited the DRC from January 31 to February 3, where he met with victims of the violence in the east of the country.

Recently, an East African regional force was dispatched to help fight the rebels, but the bishops are concerned that these forces are becoming part of the problem

In and Peace Commission, could work collaboratively with communities to persuade the rebels to lay down their arms.

“Faced with this threat, the best barrier is to consolidate national cohesion and revive the patriotic spirit. It is appropriate to control certain opinion leaders who are known for their derogatory remarks and the political actors who disseminate speech inciting hatred and exclusion,” the prelates said.

They stressed the importance of setting up a broad national framework to assess the agreements and alliances “that would constitute obstacles in the efforts to save the homeland in order to adopt new strategies.”

They called on the government to strengthen the monitoring and control system following suspicions that funds allocated to soldiers fighting insurgents was being embezzled, and insisted the embezzlers need to be brought to book.

Noting that their primary concern was “the lives of our brothers and sisters who have been bruised for several decades and the future of the DR Congo,” the Church leaders called on the government to intensify its military response by encouraging more young people to enlist in the army.

“We will not hesitate to contribute to any initiative that will aim to guarantee national security, territorial integrity, the stability of the State and its institutions, social peace,” the bishops concluded
 
August said:
Una semaje kuhusu hii balkanisation of DRC

bishops warn against ‘balkanization’ of central African nation
By Ngala Killian Chimtom
Feb 27, 2023
|
Africa Correspondent

YAOUNDÈ, Cameroon – Just weeks after Pope Francis visited the country, the Catholic bishops in the Democratic Republic of Congo have again raised concerns over what they say is a “cynical plan” by foreign armies, rebel groups and multinational companies to balkanize the country.

The eastern part of the DRC has been plagued by violence for years, with dozens of rebel groups fighting each other and the government.

Francis visited the DRC from January 31 to February 3, where he met with victims of the violence in the east of the country.

Recently, an East African regional force was dispatched to help fight the rebels, but the bishops are concerned that these forces are becoming part of the problem

In and Peace Commission, could work collaboratively with communities to persuade the rebels to lay down their arms.

“Faced with this threat, the best barrier is to consolidate national cohesion and revive the patriotic spirit. It is appropriate to control certain opinion leaders who are known for their derogatory remarks and the political actors who disseminate speech inciting hatred and exclusion,” the prelates said.

They stressed the importance of setting up a broad national framework to assess the agreements and alliances “that would constitute obstacles in the efforts to save the homeland in order to adopt new strategies.”

They called on the government to strengthen the monitoring and control system following suspicions that funds allocated to soldiers fighting insurgents was being embezzled, and insisted the embezzlers need to be brought to book.

Noting that their primary concern was “the lives of our brothers and sisters who have been bruised for several decades and the future of the DR Congo,” the Church leaders called on the government to intensify its military response by encouraging more young people to enlist in the army.

“We will not hesitate to contribute to any initiative that will aim to guarantee national security, territorial integrity, the stability of the State and its institutions, social peace,” the bishops concluded
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Mkuu hili ni jikwaa huru ni vema uwe unaweka content kwa kiswahili, pia kama ni copy and paste weka link tu, simple as that....
 
Uncle bright said:
Solution ni moja tu, Kama Congo imewachoka wabanyamulenge ni heri wawape nchi yao lasivyo hakutakuwa na mwisho wa hizi vita huko Congo.

Ni tatizo lilioanza zamani sio siku hizi.

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Hiyo ilikuwa enzi za Vita vya kwanza vya Zaire mwaka 1996 enzi Mzee Laurent Kabila (Rip) akisaidiwa na Kigali na Kampala kutwaa madaraka.

Mazingira ya Sasa ni tofauti sana na Zaire ya zamani, kwa Sasa Kuna uvamizi wa nchi jirani kwa kivuli cha waasi wanaojiita M23 japo hili lilianza toka zamani
 
Proved said:
Hiyo ilikuwa enzi za Vita vya kwanza vya Zaire mwaka 1996 enzi Mzee Laurent Kabila (Rip) akisaidiwa na Kigali na Kampala kutwaa madaraka.

Mazingira ya Sasa ni tofauti sana na Zaire ya zamani, kwa Sasa Kuna uvamizi wa nchi jirani kwa kivuli cha waasi wanaojiita M23 japo hili lilianza toka zamani
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Wanadai nini hasa?
 
Ila kama Kagame anaharibu amani ya ndugu zake anaharibu sana. Nashauri askari wa kinarwanda akikamatwa achinjwe hadharani tukio liwe live kunako ma television
 
Proved said:
Hiyo ilikuwa enzi za Vita vya kwanza vya Zaire mwaka 1996 enzi Mzee Laurent Kabila (Rip) akisaidiwa na Kigali na Kampala kutwaa madaraka.

Mazingira ya Sasa ni tofauti sana na Zaire ya zamani, kwa Sasa Kuna uvamizi wa nchi jirani kwa kivuli cha waasi wanaojiita M23 japo hili lilianza toka zamani
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POLITICAL CORRECTNESS WITH SOME VESTED INTERESTS!
... Mwalimu Nyerere was very wise and a human, political, encyclopedia of the great lakes zone of Africa!
... But, BUT, Mwalimu was also very human, with a lot of personal interests and, like most of us, to a good degree, he wanted the universe to rotate around him! ... he supported the Biafran separationist wars in Nigeria(he regretted later), ... his Pan-Africanist support for his Ugandan friend, Milton Obote, costed this nation time, money and personnel.
Here we see him trying to turn all the blame to Congo people! ... Yes, it's very true that Abanyamulenge were is Congo like the Masai in TZ and Kenya, but they also took a good chunk of Tutsi refugees from Rwanda who also masquerade as Banyamulenge! ... to cap it all off these people are expansionists and separationist everywhere they go!
I DON'T HATE OUR TUTSI BROTHERS AND SISTERS BUT THEIR LASTING SOLUTION IS TO START TO LEARN TO CHOOSE WHICH COUNTRY THEY WANT TO BELONG TO AND THEN INTEGRATE WITH THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTRY THEY CHOOSE! ... THOSE IN UGANDA SHOULD BE UGANDANS, IN TANZANIA TANZANIANS, IN CONGO CONGOLESE! THEY SHOULD STOP THEIR EVIL IDEA OF SNATCHING OTHER COUNTRIES' LAND AND INTEGRATING WITH 'THE RWANDA KINGDOM'!
... IN THE FUTURE, EVERYONE OF US HUMANS SHOULD LEARN TO GIVE SOME OF OUR PRIDE AWAY IN ORDER TO COEXIST WITH OTHERS!
 
Migogoro kama hii South Africa ataitizama tu.. tena nasikia katuma jeshi na washauwawa wajeshi wake.. naona angepeleka jeshi Gaza awasaidie Hamas
 
So special said:
Kuna uzi wangu nimesema haya mambo ya Congo yana hitaji mjadala mpana wa makubaliano na mazungumzo ya amani kuliko hii mihemko ya nguvu za kivita na majeshi inayo endelea Congo.

Suala la Congo litazamwe zaidi katika njia ya amani kutatua migogoro njia ya vita itazidi kugharimu maisha ya Wacongo.

Mpaka sasa sijui ni Watanzania wangapi wanaojua majeshi yetu yapo Congo kupambana na waasi kwa sababu gani ? Na malalamiko ya serikali ya Congo ni yapi na malalamiko ya waasi ni yapi ?

Watanzania wengi ni kuunga tela tu bila kujua hasa uwepo wa askari wetu Congo una sababu gani kuu hasa za kutushawishi.

Hii haina tofauti na maswali wanao uliza raia wa marekani kwa nini pesa zao za kodi zina gharamia vita vya Ukraine bila sababu ya msingi wao kupewa
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Jeshi la wananchi lipo congo, Kwa mwavuli wa sadec na sisi wenye jeshi letu tunajua,
na tunaliunga mkono kunguru apigwe
 
Uncle bright said:
Solution ni moja tu, Kama Congo imewachoka wabanyamulenge ni heri wawape nchi yao lasivyo hakutakuwa na mwisho wa hizi vita huko Congo.

Ni tatizo lilioanza zamani sio siku hizi.

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Nyerere mwenyewe anajulikana kwa kusaidia Watusi. Yéyé mwenyewe anaasili ya watusi. Kulikua na tuhuma kuwa anao ndugu zake kule Burundi. Na hilo Jina la Nyerere ni lakirundi.
Nyerere ndiye aliwasapoti Watusi wa Uganda na Rwanda. Kagame na Museveni wamefundishwa na Nyerere. Sasa ulitegemea asemeje?.
Inasemekana kuwa Mkapa na Nyerere walikua wanatofautiana misimamo huu ya Watusi. Kikwete pia hawataki Watusi.
Nyerere anaasili yake pia.
Swala ni kuchapa Chuma mpaka Kigali
 
So special said:
Kuna uzi wangu nimesema haya mambo ya Congo yana hitaji mjadala mpana wa makubaliano na mazungumzo ya amani kuliko hii mihemko ya nguvu za kivita na majeshi inayo endelea Congo.

Suala la Congo litazamwe zaidi katika njia ya amani kutatua migogoro njia ya vita itazidi kugharimu maisha ya Wacongo.

Mpaka sasa sijui ni Watanzania wangapi wanaojua majeshi yetu yapo Congo kupambana na waasi kwa sababu gani ? Na malalamiko ya serikali ya Congo ni yapi na malalamiko ya waasi ni yapi ?

Watanzania wengi ni kuunga tela tu bila kujua hasa uwepo wa askari wetu Congo una sababu gani kuu hasa za kutushawishi.

Hii haina tofauti na maswali wanao uliza raia wa marekani kwa nini pesa zao za kodi zina gharamia vita vya Ukraine bila sababu ya msingi wao kupewa
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Ni nani mfadhili wa waasi ili tujadili nae?
 
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