Nyerere atorokwa na Lule

[MkamaP]

MY STORY: My advice made Museveni succeed Lule as NRM chief


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MONDAY, 17 AUGUST 2009 10:27
WRITTEN BY SSEMUJJU IBRAHIM NGANDA4 COMMENTS

Lule escapes from house arrest in Tanzania
How Justice Kanyeihamba tried to block Binaisa presidency

In this third part of his story, Supreme Court judge, JUSTICE GEORGE KANYEIHAMBA, 70, who retires in November, tells SSEMUJJU IBRAHIM NGANDA how he pleaded with Chief Justice Wako Wambuzi not to swear in Godrefy Lukongwa Binaisa after Prof. Yusuf Lule was illegally toppled.

I told President Lule not to resign after the Consultative Council passed a vote of no confidence in him. If you remember, for about 48 hours we had two presidents.

Immediately Nyerere was informed that the resolution had been passed, he went to the world press and said that he was reliably informed that President Lule had been removed constitutionally and democratically by the UNLF and as a democrat, he had to accept the democratic decision of the Ugandans and accept the new man, [Godfrey Lukongwa] Binaisa as president.

By the way, operatives had summoned the Chief Justice, Wako Wambuzi, to swear in Binaisa. Again, I had told him not to swear in the new man until it has been resolved whether it is Lule who stays or Binaisa becomes the President.

But they took him [Wambuzi] almost at gun-point to Parliament Building and swore in Binaisa as the new President.

[After that], Lule was practically bundled out of State House and taken to Tanzania where, according to the late Senabulya (his personal assistant), Nyerere went to him with a document saying; "sign here to abdicate as President of Uganda because we now have a new president."

Lule refused to sign and for the few days he stayed there, Nyerere or his emissaries would go to him and say; "have you changed your mind? Sign here." He still refused.
And Nyerere was telling the world that Lule had gone to Tanzania voluntarily for discussions on the formation of the new government, which was not true.

Prof. Lule used the same tactic of going to the international media to announce his departure from Tanzania.
He sent his aide to buy one-way tickets from British Airways. He instructed him to tell the press that now that the negotiations with Nyerere were finished, the former President of Uganda was returning to his family in the UK.

He told the aide to announce his desire to leave Tanzania worldwide and this is exactly what happened.
Nyerere was furious, as pictures taken of him accompanying Lule to the airport showed. He was almost crying because Lule had beaten him at his own game.

Senabulya bought the ticket; called Nyerere and told him that they were now going to the airport. Since it had been announced to the world by the BBC that Lule had gone there voluntarily, he couldn't do anything about it without betraying the fact that he actually had held him under house arrest. That is how he left.

Lule in exile

Immediately Lule was removed, the Baganda said they would riot. They would boycott everything until Lule was reinstated.
I was staying at the Nile Mansion and two friends of mine led by the late John Bikangaga decided that Kanyeihamba should not remain in the country because he may be arrested.

The government had also announced that all former ministers should stay where they were. That they should not travel about for their safety. People realised that we were in danger. So my friends from Kigezi decided that they must smuggle me out of the country so that I don't face jail.

I didn't have any penny; I had never earned contrary to what people say. Some people got $40,000 but for me I never received a penny. So these friends collected money and decided that I should escape by road. I will disclose a few of them in my book. The late Karugaba and Mrs. Alice Karugaba, were very brave.

Mrs Karugaba is the one who owns and runs Nina Interiors Limited. They decided to take me in their car across the border, so that I get a bus from Malaba-a very brave act.

I disguised myself as a houseboy. I had refused Alice to [be part of the mission] but she insisted they must take me with her husband. I feared the jeopardy; suppose we were arrested, the children would be left with nobody.

When we got to Jinja Bridge, there were soldiers manning a roadblock and one of them recognised me; I was seated in the back seat. He said; "aren't you the Attorney General Kanyeihamba?"

I said; "yes." I thought the game was up, they would arrest me or order the car back. He looked at me and said; "we don't like what has happened either, what has happened has put our country back." He looked at me again, he saluted, and he said I wish you good luck where you are going. (Interview stops as Kanyeihamba breaks down).

Every time I remember that incident, I cry. Sorry. There are many people with a heart and they don't get recognised. The Kenyan immigration officer who let us go was one of them. He said that; "what the government is doing is wrong, so I am not going to go along with them." I remember I even took his name.

He looked at me and said, "We don't like what has happened, Mr. Attorney General, we wish you luck."
It is because of mainly those two incidents that I have persisted that this country should be governed well; that we should not be fed on lies or deception; that things should be transparent.

So, I left for Kenya. My friend, the late Augustine Karugaba, just didn't return to Kampala but he accompanied me in a taxi all the way to Nairobi until I got to my hosts; where I was going to stay and he came back.

I also fought

This kind of friendship is not remembered by many Ugandans. It seems we have glorified the gun. Those who support the leader and those who have helped in a small way are ignored.

And then of course I proceeded to the UK. I stayed there and then joined the National Resistance Movement.
In 1981, when Museveni went to the bush, Ruhakana Rugunda sent me that news and said that I should publicise it worldwide.

More or less that is when I became an activist in the Movement. I was the first one to receive that news of going to the bush [in London] and publicised it. I sent a news item to The Guardian of London which was published and then I started regrouping with all others.

We started supporting Museveni in the UK. Our job was to carry out the diplomatic drive, to publicise it. In that respect I saw the then British Prime Minister, I [also] saw people like Margaret Thatcher, she was leader of opposition [then], and I talked to them.

Funny enough, they were not interested. First, they said their High Commissioner and all the evidence they have is that Obote and his systems are very much in charge, they can't be removed. That they were popular with the army and with Police and they had the machinery like the Movement has now and nobody could touch them.

Secondly, that the supposed leader of our group was a communist agitator and had no following in the country. Therefore, we were really wasting their time. That is what both the Prime Minister and the leader of opposition told me. I saw them personally.

As I told you, we continued with our campaign. We had a magazine; we extended our network to the whole of Europe and everywhere.

Then sadly, our Chairman, Yusuf Lule, died and the question arose: Who should replace him as chairman? Remember his small group and that of Museveni had merged and he had become our chairman.

When he died, we summoned the leaders, including Eriya Kategaya, to discuss the succession. Many conservatives, especially the Baganda, wanted a Muganda to succeed him. They said the only way we could maintain support in the country and the whole of Buganda was for Lule to be replaced by a Muganda.

So we met in London with Kategaya, the late Ben Matoogo, other activists like Joseph Tomusange (now ambassador to South Africa). For me, I gave them legal advice. I don't appear in their papers because I have discovered a weakness in Uganda.

Unless you are the one who did the work or projected some issue, people ignore you.
What amazed me, for example, is that when you read Museveni's book, Sowing the Mustard Seed, I don't even appear in the footnotes (laughter).

But if they interview him, he will tell you that I drafted our (anti- Amin) constitution in 1978 when we went to Lusaka. I was there with him; that was the first time I met him politically, although I had met him at Makerere in a debating society and I was impressed by his projection of what we should be in Uganda.

I will tell you another incident that happened when I tried to reconcile him with Kayiira in Nairobi. All those are ignored by many of the writers. Even Kategaya's book that he wrote after he was sacked from Cabinet for opposing the third term, although I was with him in London, he doesn't mention that I was there and that I was their legal advisor.

To cut the story short, anyway, they accepted my advice that because Yoweri Museveni was deputy to Lule, once the chairman dies, he automatically assumes that role; he takes over that responsibility.

And if the Movement wants another person then they can call another meeting to elect him but for the time being, Museveni was the legitimate successor to Lule. My view was accepted by the meeting. That is why Museveni succeeded Lule as the Chairman of that group.

Before his death, Lule had asked me to come up with views on how, should the Movement take over power, the country should be governed?

The suggestion that we should have a Constituent Assembly (CA), we should have elections, we write a new Constitution, those were my ideas. But when you read any of these books, they don't mention me.

Unless you have carried a gun or you were in the military High Command; but if your performance seems to weaken their position, they don't discuss it. But you can ask all those who were in those meetings whether I was there.

Ask Kategaya, was I in that meeting which selected Museveni to succeed our Chairman? Did I express a view? Actually Kategaya normally doesn't say many words in a meeting of that kind. I was very vocal in that meeting.

Museveni Vs Kayiira

When they were in the bush, evidence came that there was a difference of opinion between Museveni and the late Andrew Kayiira. Both were my friends.

So Lule gave me a business ticket to come to Nairobi to go and see whether I could reconcile them. We went to Nairobi; we were summoned to an undisclosed destination which I am not going to disclose. We spent most of the day there discussing.

In the end I posed a question to both of them (Museveni and Kayiira) and I said; "you have one opponent." By the way, for me I call them political opponents, although some say that they should be called political enemies.

Prof. Kanyerezi could tell you one or two things because he was at that meeting. Bisase never forgave me because we excluded him; a very high profile politician during Lule's time. Remember at one time he was the Minister of Health. He was in Nairobi at that time and blames me for having excluded him, but I didn't.

We must have been five or six people but the prominent ones; Kayiira, Yoweri Museveni, Lule, Kanyerezi, there was another person from the Nairobi NRM External Wing.

After a lot of discussion, for me I posed this question to both Kayiira and Museveni; "Would you rather that you served under Museveni and we have Obote removed or would you rather that Obote continues serving rather than having Kayiira or Museveni as a leader?" Both agreed that they had a common cause and they should move on.

I said in that case, "you remove the political opponent who is misgoverning the country and then the people of Uganda will decide after the position is clear who of you they prefer to govern Uganda." They agreed and embraced each other there and then. We finished the meeting on a cordial note.

Of course when they came to Uganda, they fought again. I think they had another disagreement.
What were their differences? As you know it is wrong to defame … Museveni had a bigger following in the country, but Kayiira was very arrogant and in my opinion, he didn't think through some of the things he did.

He saw himself as a rival rather than a support force to Museveni. Museveni didn't like the way Kayiira was rushing things; he did things which Museveni considered very dangerous to the war.

For example, there was one time he nearly burnt the Nile Mansion on the belief that if all the ministers were burnt there, the government would fall. Museveni said that was very unscientific because the government is not run by people in State House, it is run by so many other departments, the Army, Police etc.

I think it was ideology, Kayiira was a staunch conservative in the mode of DP, he didn't agree with DP, he founded his own UFM if you remember, and he had a lot of support from the Conservatives in America.

Whereas Museveni was a radical and much more, shall we say, he was a great thinker? Those were the differences; it was tactic and art of governance.
Although he appointed him a minister, Kayiira again disagreed and eventually died under circumstances that we have never resolved. Whether he was killed by his own group or by the NRM or whatever, this is a matter that remains unresolved.

President Binaisa

Like I have said, when Lule was removed, I went back to London. But when I was still in Nairobi, Binaisa sent an emissary. I think they realised later that may be I would have been useful in the government and they should have kept me. The emissary said I should come back.

You recall in history, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs remained unoccupied for sometime. So they said come back and be minister of Foreign Affairs. I said for me the Lule government was removed unconstitutionally and therefore, I cannot be part of that government which removed him unconstitutionally; I would not condone unconstitutionalism. So, I declined.

Eventually I proceeded to London and resumed my teaching.
By that time I had become a very, very active Movement person.
We would not only take the diplomatic initiative to publicise Museveni and what he was doing, but also we exposed the misdeeds of the incumbent regime.

I was also involved in collecting materials, equipment and money. Remember I was Chairman of Uganda Human Rights group in London which was supposed to be non-sectarian but it also clandestinely supported the fighters.

I played those two roles very, very effectively. Nobody can tell you I let down the group or I let down the Movement. Really I was a member of the External Wing of which my friend Mathew Rukikaire was Chairman in Nairobi. We collaborated a lot. As I have told you, when they came to London we would meet and so on and so forth.

I played that logistical role-the intellectual part of the Movement by thinking. As I have told you, I originated the idea of having a Constituent Assembly to make a new Constitution, then the rest when the Movement came to power; I became the Minister of Commerce, Minister Justice and Attorney General for the second time.

Many times when President Museveni, chairman of our group came to London, they would summon us to discuss. When Kenya threatened them in Nairobi, I found them sanctuary in Scandinavia. If you remember Amama Mbabazi and Ruhakana Rugunda stayed for a long time in Sweden.

I am the one who found them that sanctuary with my connection in that country. When they were coming back I met them at the airport. I am the one who booked for them their tickets to come back. Eventually Mrs. Museveni joined them and so forth. We were collecting logistics to assist the families of those who were fighting.

Next Monday Kanyeihamba narrates how Museveni appointed him Minister of Commerce, and his return from exile.
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[JokaKuu]

..kwenye kitabu cha vita ya uganda kilichoandikwa na waingereza wanadai Lule alikuwa "kizuizini" ikulu ya Dsm.

..wanadai kwasababu Malkia wa Uingereza alikuwa anatarajia kuja Tanzania na kufikia Ikulu ya Dsm basi ilimlazimu Nyerere kumuachia Prof.Yussuf Kironde Lule.

..kwa kweli maofisa wa Tanzania wanapswa kuandika their side of the story kuhusu nini kilikuwa kinaendelea Uganda.

cc Malafyale, Nguruvi3, Shwari, Mag3

 

[Nguruvi3]

..kwenye kitabu cha vita ya uganda kilichoandikwa na waingereza wanadai Lule alikuwa "kizuizini" ikulu ya Dsm.

..wanadai kwasababu Malkia wa Uingereza alikuwa anatarajia kuja Tanzania na kufikia Ikulu ya Dsm basi ilimlazimu Nyerere kumuachia Prof.Yussuf Kironde Lule.

..kwa kweli maofisa wa Tanzania wanapswa kuandika their side of the story kuhusu nini kilikuwa kinaendelea Uganda

Mkuu JokaKuu nimesoma habari hii nika reflect mambo mengi sana. Ni kweli nakumbuka kulikuwa na utata sana kuhusu mbadiliko ya marais wa Uganda. Kuna kama siku 3 haikujulikana nani anaongoza Uganda.

Nisichokielewa ni position ya Nyerere kwa Lule. Nakumbuka kuwaona wawili hao wakiwa marafiki sana.
Ilionekana wazi kuwa Nyerere walielewana na prof Kironde, sijui later nini kilitokea.

Kuna tatizo la kuandika declassified info au memoir kwa viongozi wa nchi yetu. Jambo kama hili kuna watu wachache sana wanaweza kulieleza kwa uzuri na kwabahati wanaondoka kidogo kidogo.
Mathalan marehemu mzee Apiyo amekwenda na habari nyingi sana.

Wengine wanaoweza kutupa habari za ndani kwa kiwango chao ni akina Retired Gen Msuya, Lt Gen T.Kiwelu, akina Mzee Msekwa, CD Msuya, Mzee Butiku, akina Sinde n.k.

Unajua huyu Wasira ni mawenge wenge tu, angekuwa ametulia angeeleza mambo japo kwa uchache. Wakati Lule na Nyerere wanakutana rasmi kama marais pale Musoma, host wao alikuwa Wasira mkuu wa mkoa!

Sijui hao viongozi hawajawa approached au hawapo willing kueleza.

 

[Moshe Dayan]

Mkuu JokaKuu nimesoma habari hii nika reflect mambo mengi sana. Ni kweli nakumbuka kulikuwa na utata sana kuhusu mbadiliko ya marais wa Uganda. Kuna kama siku 3 haikujulikana nani anaongoza Uganda.

Nisichokielewa ni position ya Nyerere kwa Lule. Nakumbuka kuwaona wawili hao wakiwa marafiki sana.
Ilionekana wazi kuwa Nyerere walielewana na prof Kironde, sijui later nini kilitokea.

Kuna tatizo la kuandika declassified info au memoir kwa viongozi wa nchi yetu. Jambo kama hili kuna watu wachache sana wanaweza kulieleza kwa uzuri na kwabahati wanaondoka kidogo kidogo.
Mathalan marehemu mzee Apiyo amekwenda na habari nyingi sana.

Wengine wanaoweza kutupa habari za ndani kwa kiwango chao ni akina Retired Gen Msuya, Lt Gen T.Kiwelu, akina Mzee Msekwa, CD Msuya, Mzee Butiku, akina Sinde n.k.

Unajua huyu Wasira ni mawenge wenge tu, angekuwa ametulia angeeleza mambo japo kwa uchache. Wakati Lule na Nyerere wanakutana rasmi kama marais pale Musoma, host wao alikuwa Wasira mkuu wa mkoa!

Sijui hao viongozi hawajawa approached au hawapo willing kueleza.

very interesting..., am glad taarifa kama hizi bado zinatunzwa vizuri sana na ni mara chache utaskia zimevuja kutokea Tanzania.watu kama joseph butiku, anachokijua kuhusu hii nchi ni pot full of gold, lakn ndo hivyo, they will die with all the country's past super power image.whether many know or they don't, we toppled governments and we dictated on their presidents, kwa mfano wangapi wanajua JWTZ iliwahi kuipiga shelisheli na kumbadilisha rais? a little is jnown about that daring commando operation, but that's how Tanzania operated in secret.

 

[Moshe Dayan]

mzee butiku was not only a close aide to nyerere, he was also one of the good early spies we had..., sasa ili upate info kutoka kwake,, Jokakuu, you will really need to have supernatural skills to convince him maana mambo mengine yaliyofanywa kipindi kile ni ya kikatili, as they say, SOMETHINGS ARE BETTER GONE UNTOLD!!!

 

[Nguruvi3]

very interesting..., am glad taarifa kama hizi bado zinatunzwa vizuri sana na ni mara chache utaskia zimevuja kutokea Tanzania.watu kama joseph butiku, anachokijua kuhusu hii nchi ni pot full of gold, lakn ndo hivyo, they will die with all the country's past super power image.whether many know or they don't, we toppled governments and we dictated on their presidents, kwa mfano wangapi wanajua JWTZ iliwahi kuipiga shelisheli na kumbadilisha rais? a little is jnown about that daring commando operation, but that's how Tanzania operated in secret.

Tanzania ilimsadia Albert Rene' alipokaribia kunodolewa na mamluki wa Ohare kufanya mapinduzi.
Kama kumbu kumbu zangu zipo sahihi aliyekuwa mnadhimu mkuu wa Jeshi A.Shimbo ndiye aliyeongoza vikosi(Nasimama kusahihishwa).

Katika vita ya Uganda, watu kama marehemu Gen Walden, Silas Mayunga, Abdallah Twalipo wameondoka na siri nyingi.
Kwasasa tunaweza kuwategemea akinaTumaini Kiwelu, Gen Msuya, ambaye wakati huo alikuwa major na ndiye aliyeongoza vikosi kuingia Kamapala kutokea upande mmoja.

Siri tusiyoweza kuijua ni kuwa Walden (black mamba) baada ya vita hakushiriki tena katika mambo ya siasa.
Tunajua Mayunga alikuwa balozi Nigeria akarudi na kuwa katibu wa chama na kisha kustaafu.
Sijui kwanini Walden alitoweka katika vichwa vya habari baada ya vita.

Lakini pia kuna akina Mrisho Sarakikya aliyekuwa mkuu wa majeshi. Hakuna anayeweza kueleza kwa kina kwanini maisha yake ya utumishi yaliishia katika diplomasia na kupanda mlima Kilimanjaro mara nyingi.

Ndio maana nawapa changamoto akina Pasco kujaribu kutengeneza japo documentary kwa hao waliobaki huku wengine wakichagiza viongozi waandike mambo yao ya maisha hasa utumishi wa umma.

 

[Nguruvi3]

mzee butiku was not only a close aide to nyerere, he was also one of the good early spies we had..., sasa ili upate info kutoka kwake,, Jokakuu, you will really need to have supernatural skills to convince him maana mambo mengine yaliyofanywa kipindi kile ni ya kikatili, as they say, SOMETHINGS ARE BETTER GONE UNTOLD!!!

moshi Dayan ni kweli yapo mambo mazito ambayo hata kuyafanyia declassification yana utata. Hoja hapa ni kuwa yale ya kawaida yasemwe ili kuonyesha kizazi cha flavour nini ilikuwa Tanzania na heshima yake nyakati hizo.
Butiku ni ndugu ya Nyerere pamoja na mambo mengine, hiyo haimzuii yeye kutueleza kwa uchache nini kilitokea wakati wa frontline state, vita ya Kagera, kuvunjika kwa jumuiya na mambo mengi tu ambayo pengine angeyasema kungejenga uzalendo kwa b.flavor.

Kwa mfano, kuna jamaa ameleta clip ya video ikionyesha maandalizi ya askari hadi wanaingia mtari wa mbele. Kwa vijana wa sasa wanatakiwa wajifunze kuwa uzalendo si posho. Mabasi yalikamatwa watu walichanga mifugo na pesa kwa ajili ya vita. Hamasa kwa vijana wa wakati huo kuitetea nchi na nidhamu ya uzalendo wa kweli.

Vijana wangapi wanajua kuwa intelligence yetu ilikuwa ya kiwango cha kutisha sana zama hizo. Kuna mambo yalaitokea ukihadithiwa utadhani ni movie lakini ni ukweli mtupu. Ilikuwa ni jambo la kawaida mtu kupewa deportation tena ya uhakika na ushahidi wa kujitosheleza baada ya kufuatilliwa kwa umakini. Leo tunaajiri makanali wa nchi nyingine bila kujua!

Unakumbuka kesi ya Thomas Zangira na yule padri aliyepewa 24hr kuondoka!
Wangapi wanajua nini kilimpa Henry Kissinger au utata wa majengo ya UDSM.

Tunataka watu kama huyo Jaji wa Uganda ambaye sasa anaweka mambo bayana ikiwa ni pamoja na ushiriki wake mwenyewe tena wenye utata.

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Mimi binafsi naamini kabisa kuna mengi tu yanajulikana na wala si siri isipokuwa ni siri kwa Tanzania. Watanzania wengi bado tuna hofu zisizo na msingi kuwa kuelezea mambo haya ni kuvujisha "siri za serikali". Katika sheria yetu ya mambo ya declassification hakuna hata siri moja ambayo ilikuwa siri miaka ya sitini na sabini mwanzoni ambayo inatakiwa iwe siri. WAsomi wetu na waandishi wangetaka kupewa nyaraka mbalimbali zilizokuwa declassified wangedai hivyo kwa sababu siyo siri tena.

Bahati mbaya tunaogopa kujua siri.

Nakumbuka hii juzi tu nilipoandika jambo la ndani sana la JWTZ kuna watu mara moja wakaniona nimevujisha siri za jeshi! Na haikuwa hata kiduchu ya kitu ambacho kilikuwa kinaendelea!

 

[dav22]

moshi Dayan ni kweli yapo mambo mazito ambayo hata kuyafanyia declassification yana utata. Hoja hapa ni kuwa yale ya kawaida yasemwe ili kuonyesha kizazi cha flavour nini ilikuwa Tanzania na heshima yake nyakati hizo.
Butiku ni ndugu ya Nyerere pamoja na mambo mengine, hiyo haimzuii yeye kutueleza kwa uchache nini kilitokea wakati wa frontline state, vita ya Kagera, kuvunjika kwa jumuiya na mambo mengi tu ambayo pengine angeyasema kungejenga uzalendo kwa b.flavor.

Kwa mfano, kuna jamaa ameleta clip ya video ikionyesha maandalizi ya askari hadi wanaingia mtari wa mbele. Kwa vijana wa sasa wanatakiwa wajifunze kuwa uzalendo si posho. Mabasi yalikamatwa watu walichanga mifugo na pesa kwa ajili ya vita. Hamasa kwa vijana wa wakati huo kuitetea nchi na nidhamu ya uzalendo wa kweli.

Vijana wangapi wanajua kuwa intelligence yetu ilikuwa ya kiwango cha kutisha sana zama hizo. Kuna mambo yalaitokea ukihadithiwa utadhani ni movie lakini ni ukweli mtupu. Ilikuwa ni jambo la kawaida mtu kupewa deportation tena ya uhakika na ushahidi wa kujitosheleza baada ya kufuatilliwa kwa umakini. Leo tunaajiri makanali wa nchi nyingine bila kujua!

Unakumbuka kesi ya Thomas Zangira na yule padri aliyepewa 24hr kuondoka!
Wangapi wanajua nini kilimpa Henry Kissinger au utata wa majengo ya UDSM.

Tunataka watu kama huyo Jaji wa Uganda ambaye sasa anaweka mambo bayana ikiwa ni pamoja na ushiriki wake mwenyewe tena wenye utata.

mkuu hebu elezea zaidi kuhusu utata wa henry kissinger na majengo ya UDSM aisee....

 

[barafu]

Hii ndio Jf ktk ubora wake

 

[MTAZAMO]

Tusipoandika sisi na kujifanya ni siri wataandika wengine tena kwa kupotosha na kwakuwa sisi ni siri upotofu ndio utakao aminiwa!!

Mzee Butiku awezeshwe ili sasa afanye kazi ya kuandika vitabu tu!

 

[de'levis]

mwaka 79 kuliokea drama za kufa mtu hapo mwanza hotel...siku hiyo mwl aliongea kama anaongea na watoto wake...lule na wenzake hasa mawaziri wa sheria, habari na mambo ya nje waliitwa wakafika...lule na mawaziri wale walifika wakidhani wanakuja kuongea kwa mda nakurudi uganda...mwl akawaambia nimwaita hapa tujadili mambo matatu:
1. uhusiano wenu na sisi baada ya iddi amini kuondoka
2. kutulipa gharama za kile tulichowasaidi kumuondoa amini
3. hatma ya milton obote inakuwaje maana yuko uhamishoni

baada ya utangulizi huo mwl akwaambia tutakutana saa mbili usiku kujadili haya..wakati huo ilikuwa saa kumi jion...
wale jamaa(lule na wenzake) wakashangaa maana walidhani mazunguzo ni ya mda..baada ya hapo wageni wote toka uganda kila mmoja akaonyeshwa chumba cha kulala hapo mwanza hotel..na tayari kwa kuwa mipango ilishasukwa kikamilifu juu ya hawa wagen toka uganda..kila chumba kiliwekewa taulo,mswaki na dawa ya meno pia sabuni ya kuogea...

wengi walishangaa na kusema hivi kumbe tunalala maana tulijua tunakuja nakuondoka...saa mbili usiku mazuguzo yakaanza..wageni toka uganda walikuwa wa kwanza kuingia ukumbini na kumsubiri king maker mwalimu nyerere ..baadaa kama ya dakika tano mwalimu akaingia ndani huku akiwa ameongozana na milton obote..wakakaa mbele...

baada ya hapo kabla ya kuanza mazunguzo nakumbuka mwl aliwasha redio na kusema '' naomba tusikilize taarifa ya habari toka bbc....taarifa ikaanza kwa kusema:

kuna mgogoro mkubwa sana toka katika serikali ya uganda na sasa tunapoongea mda huu serikali ya uganda inakutana na rais wa Tanzania mwl JK Nyerere ili kujadili namna ya kumaliza tofauti zao''....kisha mwalimu akazima redio na kusema kama mlivvyosikia kuna mgogoro mkubwa sana katika serikali yenu..kabla sijaendelea kuna yeyoye anayetaka kuongea?....
nakumbuka mwl siku hiyolikuwa anaongeka kkama anaongea na watoto wake na hiyo taarifa ya habari toka bbc iliandaliwa na vijanwa wetu kwa ustadi wa hali ya juu kabisa na kwaaminisha wageni toka uganda kuwa ni taarifa ya habari toka bbc....



anyway kuna mengi yalifanywa huko nyuma...yanapaswa kusemwa.....lakini kuna mengine hayatasemwa kamwe

 

[MTAZAMO]

MY STORY: How Nyerere embarrassed President Lule in Tanzania


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MONDAY, 10 AUGUST 2009 11:26
WRITTEN BY SSEMUJJU IBRAHIM NGANDA12 COMMENTS



&#8216;Kenyans nearly handed me to Amin', Obote was to return as VP in 1980
In the second part of his story, retiring Supreme Court judge Justice Prof. GEORGE Wilson KANYEIHAMBA tellsSSEMUJJU IBRAHIM NGANDA how former Tanzanian President, Julius Nyerere, dramatically brought down President Yusuf Lule's government that he served as Attorney General and Minister of Justice.
Before flying to Moshi for the conference, I had made sure that I had letters to show that I had been invited to Nairobi University as external examiner.
Lutakome Kayiira also had papers introducing him as an external examiner; remember he was a professor of Criminology.
So, we decided to travel to Nairobi by road, and then fly to our various destinations. The three of us; Prof. [Yash] Tandon, Kayiira and I, hired a taxi from Moshi to cross the border.

When we got to the border, we were stopped. We were actually arrested. Tandon was later on released because he had an Indian passport. During that struggle, many Ugandans acquired different nationalities. Kayiira and I had Ugandan passports, so we were detained at the border.

The man [at the border] said; "you people, we have known that you were in Moshi planning to overthrow a government of a friendly country, Uganda. The instructions we have are that we should arrest you and hand you over to the Ugandan authorities."

So, I produced my papers and told the man that I was an external examiner at Nairobi University. The man said; "no, that will not work." Then I told him that; "by the way, your boss James Mutua [who was the chief immigration officer], is a friend of mine.

I had taught his daughter in the UK. If you ask him, he will tell you that I am his visitor, because I am going to stay with him at his house while external examining in Nairobi."

The man said; "excuse me. Even the Vice President cannot override this order, it came from the top, don't waste our time."

We sat there. Then after about half an hour, another gentleman came, very tall gentleman and said; "so you are the people who want to overthrow Id Amin?"

We said we were only meeting in Moshi to discuss our problems in Uganda. He said; "well, I think you are going to face him."
Then he said; "anyway, none of us senior officers of the immigration department likes Amin either.

He is really an embarrassment to Africa. We have decided to disobey the orders from Nairobi and instead we have decided to deport you back to Tanzania." We clapped [our hands] because our lives had been saved. And as I told you, I have my old passport with those words; "You are a prohibited immigrant, please leave Kenya at the earliest opportunity by whatever direct means you can."

(He dashes probably to his bedroom to bring the old passport but returns with Zimbabwe dollars and narrates how he bought a Tusker at 1.8 million Zimbabwe dollars).

When we disembarked at the immigration building that was being constructed at Namanga, our taxi was still waiting. Obviously they had told him to wait (laughter). They took us back to Tanzania. Eventually we flew from Dar es Salaam direct to our destinations.

Attorney General

I told people [at the Moshi Conference] that; "I have drafted your constitution and that is all I am going to do." I said "I don't want to disrupt my teaching career at the University of Wales in Cardiff; I won't be joining you."

But I was at a conference at Midland, Conventry, when my wife called me and said that I had a call from the new President of Uganda. She said; "you are wanted in Uganda, apparently you have been appointed the new Attorney General."

I went home immediately and called the President. I said; "Mr. President remember I declined any office, even being a member of the Consultative Council (Parliament) because I didn't want to serve in this interim government of two years."

He said; "no, no, after consulting all our colleagues in the UNLF and all lawyers, they say you would be the best man to be Attorney General; to get us out of the mess this regime has left us in." I said; "Mr. President, I don't want to look like liar, I would rather not come." He said; "anyway, you come now; we shall discuss it in Entebbe. You come and see whether your family is still alive. We have liberated the country."

It was on that basis that I returned to Uganda on April 1979. When I came here, I found the press corps at Entebbe waiting for me. They asked; "The new Attorney General, what are you going to do with the law?

What do you think is wrong?" I started answering the questions. I was really pulled in like a thing being pulled in water&#8230;I became Attorney General.

Rejecting Nabudere

However, I discovered that my friend Dani Wadada Nabudere who was a political activist was the Minister of Justice and I was the Attorney General.

And yet our roles seemed to fuse. So I said; "how am I going to work with Nabudere? For me I am at best a liberal democrat, he is a communist more or less, very left wing."

And the matter started when I went to office. He introduced me to the staff there. He said; "I want to introduce to you my Attorney General." I thought I was a national Attorney General, not the minister's Attorney General. I saw a problem. He was going to see me as his subordinate. So, I refused. I said; "I will not be sworn in since Nabudere has been sworn in as Minister of Justice; let him hold the two portfolios because there is going to be a conflict between the two offices."

I remember at one time, a minister and the Attorney General nearly fought at a conference in New York. I think it was under Obote when the two positions were still separate.

I remember it was Obwangor Cuthbert and Grace Ibingira with each claiming to represent the legal position of Uganda on a certain matter. So, bearing that in mind, I refused [to be Attorney General].

I remember Tarsis Kabwegyere advising me to accept the post because after all, I would be a cabinet minister. I said; "no." I told Lule "I am going back to my teaching career in the UK". So the President said; "no, since I want a lawyer to be advising me on law and you are much more acknowledged as a lawyer as opposed to Nabudere who is much more of a philosopher and political scientist, you become both the Minister of Justice and Attorney General."

He said Nabudere would be a minister of something else. I think he became Minister of National Guidance, something similar to political education.
And that is how I combined the two [roles], but of course we didn't last long for me to really make an impact in the ministry.

My view was that we needed to reform our laws, improve enforcement of the Constitution and so forth. Most of the time, I was in the Attorney General's chambers drafting rules and laws, while these others remained in the Consultative Council (Parliament).

Lule ousted

When the move to oust Lule came &#8211; and that is another dramatic thing that happened, the Gang of Four (Profs. Edward Rugumayo, Nabudere, Tandon, and Omwony Ojwok) didn't want me to serve in the new government, although I was invited.

So I was dropped when that happened. But before that, there were dramatic events at Mwanza. I was in cabinet when Lule called me and said that the Tanzanian government wants us to meet them-a few of them at Mwanza for consultations. I traveled with the President and a few other ministers in the presidential jet. Others chartered a plane. I will never forget the events of that day.

The whole of the Tanzanian establishment was there; the President, Vice President, Army Commander, Inspector General of Police and cabinet ministers, all regional commanders and commissioners.

It was a wonderful reception. After charming dancers and everybody welcomed us, they took us to the hotel at Mwanza and said the president (Julius Nyerere) would meet us later on that day.

So we went to the High School Mwanza, to meet the President (Nyerere). We waited for an hour before he could come. We were sitting with our President (Lule). Eventually he came, we all stood up for him, he took the platform at about 4 o'clock.

He said, "we have come here to discuss three important issues: One, now that we have overthrown Id Amin, we want to know our new relationship-that is between TPDF (Tanzanian Defence Forces) and your people.

Two, we want compensation." By the way, it (compensation) featured recently and I don't know how the money came to that. By the time we were there it was supposed to be $11 million but the recent figure may be because of interest, it is a huge amount.

We were to pay them compensation for the support they gave us. The third most important issue he said was, "what do we do with your most important exile, Milton Obote? We shall have to discuss that."

He said we would meet again after supper, in the evening. That meant that we were going to spend a night in Mwanza, which we had not planned for. But there had been indication that things were not as they appeared to be.

When we finished lunch, we were each taken to our respective bedrooms at the hotel and we discovered that there was a towel, toothpaste, a brush and soap.

So we wondered that if we were staying for a couple of hours, why are these people so generous to give us all those things? They were aware we were not going to leave (laughter)!

When it came to 8 O'clock, we all met at the State Lodge at Mwanza. Drama! If you look at State House, there is a platform in the meeting room for definitely big guests and the rest sit down.

We sat down with our President Lule and suddenly after five minutes, Nyerere comes in accompanied by Obote and they sit up. Now, let me tell you an incident, which had happened before that.

Before we went to Tanzania, I am told that Nyerere said he wanted the following ministers to accompany Lule to Mwanza: The minister of justice, minister of information, and minister of foreign affairs. He named portfolios, not individuals. That cabinet had been made in consultation with Nyerere and Obote, we didn't know.

Remember, the minister information, minister of foreign affairs and army commander were all hand-picked by UPC and we didn't know. Lule didn't tell us. When they called portfolios, Nyerere and Obote knew who would go.

Lule without consulting us, anybody, suddenly announced a reshuffle of the cabinet, before we went to Tanzania. That is when I became minister of justice and Attorney General. Nabudere became the minister of national guidance. Ateker Ejalu was dropped and Grace Ibingira became minister of information.

Paulo Muwanga had been minister of internal affairs; he was reshuffled and became minister of labour. I think Kayiira became minister of internal affairs. As for foreign affairs, Lule knew that Otema Alimadi was sympathetic to Nyerere but he retained him.

When he called us, it was Lule's new reshuffled cabinet. When Nyerere heard, because the reshuffle was on the news, he was annoyed and so was Obote. He said, "notwithstanding, even those that you have replaced should also come" (laughter). So we ended up there with those people plus Rugumayo, Nabudere, Muwanga.

Muwanga had begged that he was sick, that he should be given a little job. That is why Lule made him minister of labour. When we got there, it was like drama.

Nyerere comes with Obote and they sit at the podium and we are down there with Lule. And as they talked, I felt it was the headmaster and his deputy who had called these naughty boys from Uganda to be told off.

The first thing which surprised us was that Nyerere switched on a transistor radio and said; "let us first listen to the news." It was the first item on BBC: "This is BBC world news&#8230; there is a crisis in the Ugandan government. As we speak now they are meeting Nyerere in Mwanza to discuss how they can resolve the differences."
For us we didn't know there were any differences! (laughter).
As you can hear gentlemen, we were all gentlemen, there is a crisis in your country and the reason I have called you is to resolve it. Anyone who wants to speak?

Everything was pre-arranged. Paulo Muwanga put up his hand. He said; "Mr. President, as BBC has said, yes we are in a crisis. We cannot agree, the president is dictatorial and he has refused to acknowledge that we should govern by the UNLF Constitution-he insists on the Ugandan Constitution." Blah, blah, blah; he went on accusing Lule of all sorts of things, abusing him. Remember the night before, he had knelt before him begging that ndi mulwadde, mpa akalimo, (I am sick, give me a job) (Laughter). After he finished, the next one to speak was the late Ateker Ejalu.

He more or less repeated what Muwanga said; "yes, we have a problem; the President is not listening to us." Then he said, "Mr. President, there are three presidents that the people of Uganda are awaiting for. You, Mr. President (Nyerere) who has liberated us, Obote is the second one, and Lule".

In that order (laughter). Then he made a mistake because of which he was never given a portfolio after the second return of Obote. He said that; "sir, Obote also should behave himself.

I understand that he is trying to kill some of us. Indeed there was a boat that was sent into L. Kyoga and it aimed at me. If we are to work with him when he comes back, he must act constitutionally."

That annoyed Obote and he never gave Ejalu a job in his second government.Then everybody spoke. No Tanzanian talked except Nyerere.

It was my time to speak. I said; "Mr. President, it is not true that there is a difference. The difference is that some people want us to be governed by the UNLF Constitution which we adopted as a guerrilla movement and the President and his supporters want to govern by the Uganda Constitution which was enacted by the people and that is the programme that we have." People nodded. Nyerere realised that I was diverting him from his mission.

Half way the sentence he said; "you are a lawyer, aren't you?" I said yes, I am a lawyer. I am the Attorney General. He said these problems are not legal; they are political, next" (laughter).

He just cut me short and the next one talked, talked and talked. In the end, we couldn't resolve anything. First of all, they claimed we owed them $11 million for the operation to remove Id Amin.

Then Lule said, quite rightly, that; "let our Ministry of Finance and yours meet and work out exactly what we owe you and of course, we shall pay."

Then he said, "the next question is Obote. What do we do with Obote? Many people are saying that we have liberated your country but your president, former president, is still here with us. This is a matter that we should resolve. But time has gone, we shall resume tomorrow, go back to your hotel."

We couldn't believe it. We went for only two hours, we have spent a night and now we shall resume tomorrow at 2 o'clock! We met together and said; "let us stay but since we are a puppet government, let them arrest us tomorrow; we must go home come what may.

We never said goodbye to our people, our offices were unlocked." So we met the following day and they brought back these issues of Obote. Even Rugumayo was incensed.

He said; "we cannot have Obote until after elections, two years down." So, Nyerere said; "you must take him back. You could take him as Vice President or minister of foreign affairs." Obote said, "I will not accept."

The first person to object was Otema Alimadi. He said; "no, for me I am not relinquishing my office. We agreed that this government runs for two years and I am going to remain foreign minister, I am not accepting."

Obote said, "no problem, I wasn't going to accept to be foreign minister. You cannot have been president and then you accept to become foreign minister. I wasn't going to accept anyway. But I don't mind being Vice President."

We all saw what could have happened if we had accepted him to come as vice president. Amin remember was still on the outskirts, many of the UNLA soldiers were still around the country.

What we visualized was that within a short time, less than a month, Lule would be shot by the rebels and Obote would assume the presidency. That is what we could see.

We refused. Our agreement was that there would be no change of government formed by the UNLF until after two years. Obote needed to wait until after two years so that he would stand and may be get elected.

So Nyerere was not happy. Lule said; "by the way, we were supposed to be here for only two hours. Now this is the second day and we feel that we must go home to report to our people. Tonight we are going back when we finish this meeting."

Nyerere and Obote were very annoyed. They said, "you cannot go until we have resolved these matters." Lule said; "well you can arrest us, but we are going."

Then Nyerere said; "you go and consult." He had been addressing him as "President" but when he got annoyed he said; "Lule, go back and consult with your people and I must know by next Saturday what decision you have reached about Obote. Come and report to me this time not at Mwanza but in Dar es Salaam."
The meeting ended there. These people were very cool, they accompanied us to the airport and we came back.

Of course the following Saturday Lule went to Dar es Salaam and reported that the Ugandan population, all the leading personalities, had said that there is no way Obote could come through the backdoor. He has to face elections.

That is when Nyerere, the Gang of Four and others who were anti-Lule, planned to remove him from office. I had gone to Kabale. But we had agreed that we would meet, I think on a Tuesday.

I came back on a Monday and Tuesday morning I was told that the meeting had been postponed because a few members of the Consultative Council (Parliament) were going to consult the President (Lule) on some very important matters before we have that cabinet meeting.

So what happened? They go there; the Rugumayos, Muwangas, Luwuliza Kirunda who were in the Consultative Council but were UPC, and the Gang of Four.

They had consulted with Nyerere and Nyerere said, "if you pass a resolution of no confidence in him (Lule), we shall support you." That is exactly what happened.

Lule, thinking that they were going to discuss other matters, agreed to sit in the meeting [of about 28 members], most of them anti-Lule.
And to show that they were democratic, they selected about three people who were for Lule, knowing that they would defeat them. So, they sat in the Consultative Council.

Wangola produced dramatically a draft resolution to say, "Mr. Chairman, we are passing a vote of no confidence in you, you cease to be chairman of UNLF."

The Gang of Four and Wangola were supported by others. They proposed that they pass a vote of no confidence in him. Lule immediately sent a note to me as Attorney General and minister of justice saying; "these people have proposed to debate and also pass a vote of no confidence in me, what do I do?"
The late James Senabulya, his personal assistant, rang me and told me. Our UNLA Constitution said there would be no vote of confidence, no change until after two years. I consulted the Chief Justice (Wako Wambuzi); we said that the motion is unconstitutional. Lule should not sit in the meeting. He should ignore it and say this is unconstitutional and shouldn't participate in the meeting.

Secondly, should they pass it, he will remain President, let them challenge him in courts of law. The Chief Justice Wambuzi and I were sure no court would ever uphold that resolution because it was unconstitutional.

Later in the day, Senabulya rang me again and said they had continued to debate the resolution. He said that; "from what I see, it is going to pass. The President would like you to come immediately to State House, Entebbe, and advise him on this matter." Lule had disobeyed my instructions not to attend that meeting. He stayed there and when people were attacking government, he said nothing.

So I decided to go to Entebbe. By the way I had discussed this development with Yoweri Museveni and we had agreed that in order to resolve this conflict, he and I-him as deputy chairman of the Military Commission and me as Attorney General charter a plane and go to Tanzania and ask Nyerere to resolve the matter.

I think he (Museveni) went away, chartered a plane but I never saw him again (laughter). So, many dramatic things happened during that night. So, I prepared to go to State House in my car with my bodyguard who was an army man but sympathetic to Lule.

When we got to the gate, it was manned by the TDF. They refused me to go in. I said; "I am the Attorney General; the President has called me, he needs to consult with me."

They said; "our instructions are that nobody comes in or leaves this place except specified individuals, and you are not one of them. So we cannot allow you to go in."

But I managed to use a private phone and told James Senabulya to tell the President not to attend that meeting, and if he were already there, he should say it is an illegal meeting and he should leave.

I said, "Tell him that I am a prisoner here, they are not allowing me to go but somehow he must get hold of me or the Chief Justice." I left.

Lule stayed there and participated in the meeting. They passed the resolution; they said they were replacing him as chairman but the Chairman was automatically the President, so they were removing him as President.

When they passed it, apparently Lule never said anything. So they proceeded to elect his replacement. Candidates were Paulo Muwanga, Rugumayo, Binaisa. I am told that Rugumayo got more votes, then Muwanga may have been next but they adjourned.

They feared that if they got a non-Muganda or the one who is UPC, there would be riots in the country. So they had to get a Muganda.
That is how they elected Binaisa, the new chairman and President. I got in touch with Lule and asked him; "why did you stay in the meeting when I advised you not to?"

He said he had talked to Nyerere and Nyerere said you stay there but say nothing because he would not allow "those boys" to disturb the government (laughter). That Nyerere said; "We shall ignore whatever they are going to pass." He also said that he didn't want to show or allow them to say the President had refused to co-operate.

Next week, Kanyeihamba emotionally tells of how Wambuzi swore in "an illegal" President and his torturous journey back to exile.

 

[bona]

Tanzania ilimsadia Albert Rene' alipokaribia kunodolewa na mamluki wa Ohare kufanya mapinduzi.
Kama kumbu kumbu zangu zipo sahihi aliyekuwa mnadhimu mkuu wa Jeshi A.Shimbo ndiye aliyeongoza vikosi(Nasimama kusahihishwa).

Katika vita ya Uganda, watu kama marehemu Gen Walden, Silas Mayunga, Abdallah Twalipo wameondoka na siri nyingi.
Kwasasa tunaweza kuwategemea akinaTumaini Kiwelu, Gen Msuya, ambaye wakati huo alikuwa major na ndiye aliyeongoza vikosi kuingia Kamapala kutokea upande mmoja.

Siri tusiyoweza kuijua ni kuwa Walden (black mamba) baada ya vita hakushiriki tena katika mambo ya siasa.
Tunajua Mayunga alikuwa balozi Nigeria akarudi na kuwa katibu wa chama na kisha kustaafu.
Sijui kwanini Walden alitoweka katika vichwa vya habari baada ya vita.

Lakini pia kuna akina Mrisho Sarakikya aliyekuwa mkuu wa majeshi. Hakuna anayeweza kueleza kwa kina kwanini maisha yake ya utumishi yaliishia katika diplomasia na kupanda mlima Kilimanjaro mara nyingi.

Ndio maana nawapa changamoto akina Pasco kujaribu kutengeneza japo documentary kwa hao waliobaki huku wengine wakichagiza viongozi waandike mambo yao ya maisha hasa utumishi wa umma.

sarakikya alianzisha kikundi cha northerners na kwa vile northerners walikua wamesoma nyerere akahofia mapinduzi ndio akamtoa akamuweka abdallah twalipo juha asiye na elimu awe mkuu wa majeshi kwa sababu ilikua rahisi kumcontrol na kikundi chote na movement ya northerners ikasambaratishwa kuna mzee mmoja alikua commando wa arusha aliniambiwa seniors wa jeshini kutoka north wote walihamishwa mikoa tofauti yeye anadai alipelekwa mtwara kwenye kiwanda cha korosho kazi yake ilikua kureport asbui na kusign jioni akitoka for 5 yrs bila kufanya kazi yoyote!!!

 

[MTAZAMO]

Nyerere alikuwa mwembamba wa mwili lakini mnene wa fikra!!

 

[Azipa]

..kwenye kitabu cha vita ya uganda kilichoandikwa na waingereza wanadai Lule alikuwa "kizuizini" ikulu ya Dsm.

..wanadai kwasababu Malkia wa Uingereza alikuwa anatarajia kuja Tanzania na kufikia Ikulu ya Dsm basi ilimlazimu Nyerere kumuachia Prof.Yussuf Kironde Lule.

How long was Lule detained by Nyerere? Was Nyerere not aware of the queen's visit before he decided to detain Lule? I would concur with this side of the story below

Senabulya bought the ticket; called Nyerere and
told him that they were now going to the airport.
Since it had been announced to the world by the
BBC that Lule had gone there voluntarily, he
couldn’t do anything about it without betraying the
fact that he actually had held him under house
arrest. That is how he left.

 

[Rugambwa31]

Nyerere alikuwa mwembamba wa mwili lakini mnene wa fikra!!

Yani kipindi hicho mambo yalikuwa balaa.

Napendekeza katika vyuo vikuu hapa Tanzania viwe na idara ya kukusanya Habari kama hizi na kuzitoa katika tafiti. Zinaweza kuongeza uzalendo pia kama tutakuwa na utaratibu wa kujadili mambo mbalimbali yaliyo pita.

 

[MkamaP]

Ukiangalia hii stori yani, iliyokuwa na kichwa hiki
MY STORY: How Nyerere embarrassed President Lule in Tanzania

Na kama ni kweli, pale Nyerere anaomba fidia, basi kuna uwezekano mkubwa kuwa Nduli Idiamin Dada, hakuvamia Kagera kama tulivyoambiwa, bali kuna waganda walikuja kuomba msaada kwa Nyerere ili awasaidie kumuondoa Nduli. Yani kuna uwezekano mkubwa sisi ndo tulimfuata na kumchokoza Nduli.

 

[Gamba la Nyoka]

Sasa tunaanza kuconnect dots za hii vita ya Kagera!, Kama Operation ilikuwa ni kwa Ulinzi wetu kwa nini tudai fidia?
Je Kwa nini Nyerere alitumia juhudi kubwa Kumrudisha Obote Madarakani?, Je haiwezekani Operation nzima ikatokana na "Ego" ya Nyerere kutaka Kumrudisha Obote Madarakani na si kwa kuvamiwa kwetu?.

Kama Nyerere alitumia mbinu za "Kisungura sungura" kumuondoa Yusuf Lule Madarakani, Je alishindwa vipi kutumia mbinu hizo hizo kumsingizia Amini Uvamizi?.

Ukweli siku moja utajulikana, Watu wengi walikufa kwa ajili ya ile vita, na siku moja those responsible will pay!

 

[Azipa]

Ukiangalia hii stori yani, iliyokuwa na kichwa hiki
MY STORY: How Nyerere embarrassed President Lule in Tanzania

Na kama ni kweli, pale Nyerere anaomba fidia, basi kuna uwezekano mkubwa kuwa Nduli Idiamin Dada, hakuvamia Kagera kama tulivyoambiwa, bali kuna waganda walikuja kuomba msaada kwa Nyerere ili awasaidie kumuondoa Nduli. Yani kuna uwezekano mkubwa sisi ndo tulimfuata na kumchokoza Nduli.

Go to Kyaka, there's an old building probably a church on top of a hill that was shelled by Amin's forces. That's proof that he did invade our country. However, I still think the war was not just due to Amin's invasion. Nyerere wanted to reinstate his former ally, Obote. It's also said that there was unresolved issue of sharing assets of the defunct East Africa Community something that strained our relations with Kenya to the point of even closing the border with Kenya in 1977