Of Kenya, the EAC-EPA deal and the hijack of EAC integration by western interests!

Of Kenya, the EAC-EPA deal and the hijack of EAC integration by western interests!

Kafrican said:
I dont know the details would be that the EU had a bargaining power that could come close to matching that of the US
If the US has Boeing the EU has Airbus
if the US has f-16 jets the EU has dasault rafale
if the US has m1Abraham tanks the Eu has leopard 2 tanks



Yani point bieng the EU is almost self sufficient, they trade what they dont have for what they have with each other wiithin the EU.. So they can afford to say no... As for the rest of us like Kenya we cant afford it, we can only afford to negotiate for a deal where the good outweighs the bad

The best thing right now that the government of kenya can do for the future of its citizens is impliment a project to diversify her exports, if its flowers a quarter goes to Americas market, a quater to africa, a quater to EU and the rest to east(russia,china,s.korea)
That way in the future kenya cannot be leveraged by anyone, if global markets in one part of the world tumbles we wont suffer because our eggs will be in different baskets, no one will be able to have the upper hand whenm negotiating for trade deals, if they threaten to tax us, w''ll just tell them 'fine, we will take our quality products somewhere else, and oh, BTW, you products which you export to us will also from now on attract the same tax that you just proposed.. good by!'
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Kafrican said:
I dont know the details would be that the EU had a bargaining power that could come close to matching that of the US
If the US has Boeing the EU has Airbus
if the US has f-16 jets the EU has dasault rafale
if the US has m1Abraham tanks the Eu has leopard 2 tanks



Yani point bieng the EU is almost self sufficient, they trade what they dont have for what they have with each other wiithin the EU.. So they can afford to say no... As for the rest of us like Kenya we cant afford it, we can only afford to negotiate for a deal where the good outweighs the bad

The best thing right now that the government of kenya can do for the future of its citizens is impliment a project to diversify her exports, if its flowers a quarter goes to Americas market, a quater to africa, a quater to EU and the rest to east(russia,china,s.korea)
That way in the future kenya cannot be leveraged by anyone, if global markets in one part of the world tumbles we wont suffer because our eggs will be in different baskets, no one will be able to have the upper hand whenm negotiating for trade deals, if they threaten to tax us, w''ll just tell them 'fine, we will take our quality products somewhere else, and oh, BTW, you products which you export to us will also from now on attract the same tax that you just proposed.. good by!'
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Ciao to your troubling airline tell them we are coming
 
Annael said:
Huwa mnanishangaza sana wakenya kutuchukulia kuwa tupo mbali sana na nyie wakati kwenye statistics ni kama pua na mdomo. Yani mpo karibu mno na sisi.
Hebu check hapa PPP
List of countries by GDP (PPP) - Wikipedia
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naongea kuhusu GDP per capita(nominal) amabyo ndo hutumika kama kigezo cha kueka nchi kwa middle income ama LCD, Si miaka mingi pia nyinyi mtaingia huko alafu ndo mtatuambia kama EPA mtaingia au la
 
nyangau mkenya said:
the irony is that the EU funds the EAC even more than the block ,infact this year the EAC is short of budget and is begging the EU and other donors to help fund its programs because member countries cant😕😕

Development partners account for about 70 per cent of the annual budget of the EAC which is used to finance development projects and programmes as well as meet operational costs of the expanding organisation
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I dont think it's because they can't but rather they dont want to. Deep down they know the EAC is a luxury the way it is currently!
 
Annael said:
Ndugu naomba twende kwa fact.
Hizi ndio nchi africa zenye GDP kubwa. Niambie kati ya hizo ni ipi iliyo sign?
Nigeria 415,080
Egypt 330,159
SA 280,367
Algeria 168,318
Morocco 104,908
Sudan 94,287
Agola 91,939
Ethiopia 69,218

Angola hawaja sign lakini SA ndio walio sign
EU, six SADC countries sign Africa’s first EPA following more than a decade of ‘tough’ talks

Niambie sasa je unachosema ni kweli?
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Mnaigeria is just holding off ili a leverage EU imsaidie kuwekeza kwa pipeline mpya za oil ambazo kampuni nyingi zilizowekeza ni za EU na zinatishia kugoma sababu ya wanamgambo wanao iba mafuta


Nchi nyingi za north Africa zimeingia ama zinajadiliana kuingia kwa FTA na muamerica, mEU hajaingia kwa FTA na muamerika ....Moroco na algeria zilishaingia, Egypt bado ananegotiate na US ..


Despite angola na Sudan kuwa na uchumi mkubwa kutokana na export ya Oil.... bado angola na Sudan ziko kwa list ya LCD kata Tz kwahivyo hao wanaeza kukataa EPA bila conciquences..mbali na hivyo nchi kama suda haisikizani vizuri na EU kwasababu ya zile sanctions

GDP ya ethiopia bado haijapita ya Kenya, mwaka huu ndo inasemekana inaaeza pita ya kenya, lakini despite hivyo, ethiopia iko na population kubwa kwahivyo GDP/capita bado iko chini hata kushinda ya TZ...Pia ethiopia iko kwa list ya LCD..



Hizo nchi zengine ambazo ziko SADC na hazijaingia kwa EPA karibu zote ni LCD kam Congo DR,Mozambique,Zambia,Malawi,Lesotho, TZ..
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unctad.org | UN list of Least Developed Countries
 
Kafrican said:
Mnaigeria is just holding off ili a leverage EU imsaidie kuwekeza kwa pipeline mpya za oil ambazo kampuni nyingi zilizowekeza ni za EU na zinatishia kugoma sababu ya wanamgambo wanao iba mafuta


Nchi nyingi za north Africa zimeingia ama zinajadiliana kuingia kwa FTA na muamerica, mEU hajaingia kwa FTA na muamerika ....Moroco na algeria zilishaingia, Egypt bado ananegotiate na US ..


Despite angola na Sudan kuwa na uchumi mkubwa kutokana na export ya Oil.... bado angola na Sudan ziko kwa list ya LCD kata Tz kwahivyo hao wanaeza kukataa EPA bila conciquences..mbali na hivyo nchi kama suda haisikizani vizuri na EU kwasababu ya zile sanctions

GDP ya ethiopia bado haijapita ya Kenya, mwaka huu ndo inasemekana inaaeza pita ya kenya, lakini despite hivyo, ethiopia iko na population kubwa kwahivyo GDP/capita bado iko chini hata kushinda ya TZ...Pia ethiopia iko kwa list ya LCD..



Hizo nchi zengine ambazo ziko SADC na hazijaingia kwa EPA karibu zote ni LCD kam Congo DR,Mozambique,Zambia,Malawi,Lesotho, TZ..
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unctad.org | UN list of Least Developed Countries
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Wewe ndugu mbona muongo sana kiasi hicho? Unadanganya watu kwa kwa faida ya nani sasa?
Umesema uchumi wa kati unapimwa kwa GDP per capita(nominal) na ukasema nyie mnalazimika kuingia huko kwa sababu mmefikia kiwango hicho.
Nimekutajia baadhi ya nchi zipo juu sana kwenu halafu unaleta bra bra nyingi unahamisha mada.
Unaleta tena list ya Least Developed countries. Which is which sasa?

Nchi hizi hapa zote zipo juu yenu
Mauritus 9,142
Gabon 7,692
Botswana 6,771
Libya 6,276
SA 5,727
Algeria 4,175
Agola 3,976
Egypt 3,710
Swaziland 3,597
Cape verde 3,073
Morocco 3,002
Nigeria 2,743
Sudan 2,175
DRC 2,005
Djbouti 1,788

List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita - Wikipedia
zilizo sign ni hizi
Botswana, Lesotho, Mozambique, Namibia, South Africa and Swaziland.

EU, six African countries sign EPA

Hebu acha bana kutudanganya wewe. Nadhani nyie Kenya mpo na agenda behind this. Huwezi kutufanya sisi wajinga wakati kila kitu ni wazi.

Acha uongo ndugu yangu EPA ni ukoloni mambo leo. Wanataka kututawala na kuua juhudi za maendeleo ya Africa.
Sisi TZ hatuwezi ku sign mkataba huo. Sababu kubwa ni tunaweza kufanya biashara na Uingereza na lazima watuambie kwanini Uingereza imejitoa EU?

Hatuwezi kwenda kimya kimya. Pia watuambie kwanini wao wanakataa kusign mkataba na marekani wa namna hii?

Nataka utoe maelezo yanayojitosheleza sipendi bra bra ndugu.

Umesoma lakini issue ya Nigeria? huwezi kulazimisha tuweze kusign. Sisi tunaweza kushirikiana na asia sio wao mikataba ya wizi.
 
Why are we still on this. We are sooo okay, we signed this deal, and we are on to the next one...Amina get the Au job.
I think our friends are stil healing from the Eu-Kenya surprise. You were so focused on interrupting our grind.
 
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