Officials panic as Tanzania sways Museveni on SGR

[kilam]

sijui kama huko tanzania huwa wanaimba the east african national anthemn...

Hiyo ni kwa nchi zote za Jumuiya kwa mujibu wa sheria mpya iliyoanza kutumika karibuni, Acheni kujipa sifa za kijinga, pendaneni wenyewe kwanza kabla ya kuhubiria wengine umoja.

 

[kilam]

Am watching the state of the nation Adress by Uhuru, and by the start, the East African flag is raised and the east African Anthem played. It shows how Kenya is committed to EAC, I think people killing this spirit are our brothers from Tanzania

Kenya yaifuata Tanzania kuhusu bendera ya EAC

• 29 Julai 2016

Mshirikishe mwenzako
Baraza la mawaziri nchini kenya limeamrisha mara moja afisi za serikali na taasisi za umma kuanza kupeperusha na kutumia bendera ya Jumuiya ya Afrika Mashariki sambamba na kucheza wimbo wa Afrika Mashariki.

Agizo hili pia linazihusu shule zote nchini humo.

Nchini Tanzania, tayari kuna agizo kwamba Bendera ya Taifa inafaa kupeperushwa ikifuatiwa na Bendera ya Jumuiya ya Afrika Mashariki, vivyo hivyo Wimbo wa Taifa utaanza kupigwa ukifuatiwa na Wimbo wa Jumuiya ya Afrika Mashariki.

Mwandishi wa BBC David Wafula amezungumza na Waziri wa Utalii nchini Kenya Najib Balala ambaye alikuwa katika kamati iliyofanya uamuzi nchini Kenya na kwanza alimwuliza, umuhimu wa hatua hii ni upi?

Kenya yaifuata Tanzania kuhusu bendera ya EAC - BBC Swahili

 

[Xplorer]

sijui kama huko tanzania huwa wanaimba the east african national anthemn...

tokea mlipojifanya wajanja na kutokomea na ndege za EAC sasa hivi tupo makini,ushenzi hatutaki..maslahi ya nchi yetu ndio yanatangulia kwanza alafu mambo mengine ndio yanafata.kama mnaona your giving much on EAC ni bora mjitoe tu,mlizoea kusema TZ tunalalamika but sasa hivi naona nyie ndio mmezidi kulialia wakati ndio kwaaaaaaanza tumeanza kutunisha msuli.

 

[Jay456watt]

Hiyo ni kwa nchi zote za Jumuiya kwa mujibu wa sheria mpya iliyoanza kutumika karibuni, Acheni kujipa sifa za kijinga, pendaneni wenyewe kwanza kabla ya kuhubiria wengine umoja.

 

[Jay456watt]

tokea mlipojifanya wajanja na kutokomea na ndege za EAC sasa hivi tupo makini,ushenzi hatutaki..maslahi ya nchi yetu ndio yanatangulia kwanza alafu mambo mengine ndio yanafata.kama mnaona your giving much on EAC ni bora mjitoe tu,mlizoea kusema TZ tunalalamika but sasa hivi naona nyie ndio mmezidi kulialia wakati ndio kwaaaaaaanza tumeanza kutunisha msuli.

kelele za chura.....Kenya hamtawahi kuifikia mpende msipende....mtajaribu kila kitu ila mtaambulia patupu wapuuuumbavuuuu

 

[Emc2]

kelele za chura.....Kenya hamtawahi kuifikia mpende msipende....mtajaribu kila kitu ila mtaambulia patupu wapuuuumbavuuuu

Hahaha. Jamaa huwa unachekesha sana. Itabidi uwe unalala Library ili ujue nchi yako na uijue TZ kwa kiasi, utapa afya kujadili mada hapa.

 

[Jay456watt]

Hahaha. Jamaa huwa unachekesha sana. Itabidi uwe unalala Library ili ujue nchi yako na uijue TZ kwa kiasi, utapa afya kujadili mada hapa.

ur point is?.....

 

[Geza Ulole]

Hii vita tamuu Xplorer n Annael. Mi nawasoma hapa taratibuuu..

 

[Xplorer]

Hii vita tamuu Xplorer n Annael. Mi nawasoma hapa taratibuuu..

Hawa jamaa mabwege kweli!!yaani kuimba wimbo wa EAC imekuwa ni headline na malalamiko kibaooo...sasa hivi kila kitu wanalialia: EPA wanalialia kwaajili ya msimamo wa kulinda viwanda vyetu huku maua yao yakidorora ,Oil pipeline wanalialia baada ya JPM kuwazidi ujanja,SGR wanalialia baada ya kugundua wamebambikiwa bei na train za 80's,SGR ya UG nayo wanalialia baada ya kuona JPM amesogeza mdomo wake,Comon Visa wanalialia baaada ya kugundua bila TZ hakuna kinachoweza kufanyika kwenye suala zima la utalii na msimamo wetu ni kwamba ujanja ujanja wao wa kutaka kuzitumia maliasili zetu kujinufaisha wao tulishazistukia zamaniiii,Yaaani leo hii wamegeuka watu wa kulialia badala wafanye kazi kama walivyokuwa wakijinasibu hapo awali.

 

[Cicero]

This is the second time SGR is being touted as having gone south. Last time i checked a joint committee of Kenyans and Ugandans had gone to China to seek funding

Have you heard that China snubbed that meeting?

 

[mwitaz]

Rwanda has reaffirmed its commitment to the construction of the 2,000 kilometres-Northern Corridor Standard Gauge Railway line between Kigali and Mombasa, challenging its regional partners to speed up the work.
High Commissioner to Kenya James Kimonyo yesterday said his government is in the final stage of talks with China’s Export-Import Bank for a $1.2 billion (Sh123.5 billion) loan to fund the Rwandan section, which could begin
“We are getting ready to start as Kenya does its part and Uganda engages financiers from China. We have done a feasibility study and will begin soon after finalising talks with the Exim bank and other partners,” Kimonyo said in Nairobi, during this year’s Kenya-Rwanda business forum.
“We want Uganda to move with the same speed as Kenya.”
The new development is a boost to the Kenya’s SGR project, whose viability had been threatened by Uganda’s earlier threats to bolt out of a joint venture on the project. Rwanda was also reported to have chosen to re-route its standard gauge railway from the Uganda- Kenya line, and instead favoured a Tanzania route to Dar es Salaam.
He said Rwanda remains committed to regional integration, including developing the Kigali-Kampala-Eldoret refined petroleum pipeline, which will extend the existing comprehensive multi-product system within Kenya.
“We remain committed to ensure SGR and other infrastructure projects along the Northern Corridor works effectively,” Kimonyo said, calling on investors to fund projects and invest in the country, currently ranked first in the ease of doing business in East Africa by the World Bank.
Uncertainty on the SGR in the neighbouring countries had sent jitters in Kenya raising questions over its viability.
However, the financier of both the Kenyan and Ugandan lines, Exim Bank, is understood to have laid down conditions that two must appoint one operator to carry out maintenance work between Mombasa and Kampala, for the bank to consider any financing, according to Kenya Railways managing director Atanas Maina.
Uganda is negotiating a $2.3 billion (about Sh236.7 billion) loan with Exim Bank to fund an initial 273 kilometre track, linking Kampala to Kenya’s border town of Malaba.
The construction to be carried out by China Harbour Engineering Company is expected to take 40 months.
Kenya’s Sh327 billion-472 kilometresMombasa-Nairobi line was 98 per cent complete in December, according to Transport CS James Macharia.
The Kenya Railways Corporation has received 210 wagons so far out of a total of 1,620 that were ordered for the route.
Treasury secretary Henry Rotich is expected to fly to China to negotiate for more loans to build the Naivasha-Kisumu-Malaba line.
Kenya started test rides on the Mombasa-Nairobi SGR this month to ensure optimum performance once full operations begin in June.A test run on March 8 took two hours from Nairobi to Mtito Andei.

source:- Rwanda lauds Kenya's SGR progress, cuts a Sh124bn deal with China for own line

 

[Geza Ulole]

Rwanda has reaffirmed its commitment to the construction of the 2,000 kilometres-Northern Corridor Standard Gauge Railway line between Kigali and Mombasa, challenging its regional partners to speed up the work.
High Commissioner to Kenya James Kimonyo yesterday said his government is in the final stage of talks with China’s Export-Import Bank for a $1.2 billion (Sh123.5 billion) loan to fund the Rwandan section, which could begin
“We are getting ready to start as Kenya does its part and Uganda engages financiers from China. We have done a feasibility study and will begin soon after finalising talks with the Exim bank and other partners,” Kimonyo said in Nairobi, during this year’s Kenya-Rwanda business forum.
“We want Uganda to move with the same speed as Kenya.”
The new development is a boost to the Kenya’s SGR project, whose viability had been threatened by Uganda’s earlier threats to bolt out of a joint venture on the project. Rwanda was also reported to have chosen to re-route its standard gauge railway from the Uganda- Kenya line, and instead favoured a Tanzania route to Dar es Salaam.
He said Rwanda remains committed to regional integration, including developing the Kigali-Kampala-Eldoret refined petroleum pipeline, which will extend the existing comprehensive multi-product system within Kenya.
“We remain committed to ensure SGR and other infrastructure projects along the Northern Corridor works effectively,” Kimonyo said, calling on investors to fund projects and invest in the country, currently ranked first in the ease of doing business in East Africa by the World Bank.
Uncertainty on the SGR in the neighbouring countries had sent jitters in Kenya raising questions over its viability.
However, the financier of both the Kenyan and Ugandan lines, Exim Bank, is understood to have laid down conditions that two must appoint one operator to carry out maintenance work between Mombasa and Kampala, for the bank to consider any financing, according to Kenya Railways managing director Atanas Maina.
Uganda is negotiating a $2.3 billion (about Sh236.7 billion) loan with Exim Bank to fund an initial 273 kilometre track, linking Kampala to Kenya’s border town of Malaba.
The construction to be carried out by China Harbour Engineering Company is expected to take 40 months.
Kenya’s Sh327 billion-472 kilometresMombasa-Nairobi line was 98 per cent complete in December, according to Transport CS James Macharia.
The Kenya Railways Corporation has received 210 wagons so far out of a total of 1,620 that were ordered for the route.
Treasury secretary Henry Rotich is expected to fly to China to negotiate for more loans to build the Naivasha-Kisumu-Malaba line.
Kenya started test rides on the Mombasa-Nairobi SGR this month to ensure optimum performance once full operations begin in June.A test run on March 8 took two hours from Nairobi to Mtito Andei.

source:- Rwanda lauds Kenya's SGR progress, cuts a Sh124bn deal with China for own line

haux

 

[darcity]

Nice move

 

[Nali]

wewe wacha upuuzi...wewe ni mkenya wa aina gani? where is ur sense of national pride? I also disapprove many elements of the Jubilee govt but in the presence of Tanzanians you cannot dare to show this kind of treachery....they say don't pour your maize in the midst of chicken....dont air your dirty laundry in the presence of your enemies...whcih brings me to my second point...ur saying that the SGR deal is gone? how did you come to this conclusion? the SGR project can never go...MoUs were signed and if M7 dropped the kenyan SGR then that would be a diplomatic disaster for Uganda and kenya...this can even cause a dispute or war....EAC can die.....it would be seen as betrayal... there is a lot at stake for Uganda if they did this and they won't...besides, Uganda has mmore to gain from economic giant of EA than from tanzania...Mombasa port is more efficient....infrastructure is better.....there is more wealth in kenya for Ugandan companies to tap into...they are not stupid

....but your very stupid instead

 

[Nali]

no matter how much your house is disorganized, you can never let your enemies know it....thats why struggling marriage couples force fake smiles in the presence of neighbors..alafu kama mnangoja SGR ikwame hapo mtaambulia patupu...Kampala is nearer Mombasa than Tanzanian ports...plus there is the South Sudan route, Uganda would want to gain from that....most importantly, the kenyan SGR is already on track and there is an MoU that binds UG and KE together in this project....if it were to be broken, there would be grave consequences

Common Nyang'au, mou is not a legally binding agreement.....Don't fool people here....

 

[Nali]

Why bring Uhuru in here?? Did you read the article?? The contention is about 25m/km against 5m/km!!? That was signed between Uganda and the financier independently, why bring in Uhuru?? Uhuru doesn't make decisions about Uganda, he is busy building Kenya irrespective. I wonder why some people are blinded by opposition politics

Let him speak his mind....he is absolutely right....that is all about kenyans; bragging and boosting while ur nasty...

 

[Nali]

Nani kakudanganya kuwa contractor yupo site wakati hata ardhi bado haijalipiwa fidia?alafu ujue kwamba huko Uganda kabla ya huyu contractor tayari kulikuwa na mkandarasi mwingine anayeitwa China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation walikuwa wamesainiana naye mkataba na wakampiga chini vilevile na kumpa huyu wa sasa (CHEC),hata hivyo Waafrika tunatakiwa tuamke sasa hivi,haya mambo ya kulazimishana China apewe tender kwasababu tu Exim(China)ndio wanatoa mkopo hayana maana kwakuwa mwisho wa siku bei wanayotupiga ni zaidi ya mara tatu na bado riba na mwisho wa siku hela yote inarudi kwao.Uganda tayari walishatenga 15% ya gharama za mradi kutoka kwenye vyanzo vyao vya mapato,sasa wanashindwa nini kutumia kiasi hicho kumtamfuta mkandarasi kwa fair competition na kumpa tender aanze taratibu?

Siasa za Kenya za kuharakisha mambo ili muibe na muibiwe vizuri sio za kuigwa na member wengine wa EAC,ni afadhali kuchelewa lakini tupate kitu kinacholingana na malipo yetu.By the way jaribu kutumia akili kidogo tu:kama sisi tunajenga 1km kwa $1.5m na wao wameambiwa ni 1km kwa $7.3m ni kwanini wasifikirie kurudi kwenye drawing board?alafu wanaambiwa tani moja ya cement watauziwa kwa $180 wakati sisi ni $100!!hapo si inabidi M7 akune kichwa vizuri?

Hey guy, can't you argue in english?...kick the ass (Kenyans) in every angle....kama huwezi tuachie haya manyang'au tuwavuruge in any language....

 

[Uhuru n Umoja]

As we speak, at the moment, Kenya has three largest projects in the whole of Africa. The LAPSSET project is the largest infrastructural project in the history of Africa. The SGR, Konza City and Electricity Drive (To bring on board 6000MW) by 2020, Nuclear Project Geo therm projects etc! Is there any Mega project in Tanzania by now? I have not heard, but i will be glad if you educate me on this.

Crazy! Tanzania LNG terminal is $30 billion.

 

[Metsada]

wewe wacha upuuzi...wewe ni mkenya wa aina gani? where is ur sense of national pride? I also disapprove many elements of the Jubilee govt but in the presence of Tanzanians you cannot dare to show this kind of treachery....they say don't pour your maize in the midst of chicken....dont air your dirty laundry in the presence of your enemies...whcih brings me to my second point...ur saying that the SGR deal is gone? how did you come to this conclusion? the SGR project can never go...MoUs were signed and if M7 dropped the kenyan SGR then that would be a diplomatic disaster for Uganda and kenya...this can even cause a dispute or war....EAC can die.....it would be seen as betrayal... there is a lot at stake for Uganda if they did this and they won't...besides, Uganda has mmore to gain from economic giant of EA than from tanzania...Mombasa port is more efficient....infrastructure is better.....there is more wealth in kenya for Ugandan companies to tap into...they are not stupid

Infrastructure is better???? infrastructure ya kenya ni better??? ya kule laikipia, bomet, turkana, nandi, siayabonndiko better???? wadanganye ambao hawaijui kenya.

 

[Metsada]

Hey guy, can't you argue in english?...kick the ass (Kenyans) in every angle....kama huwezi tuachie haya manyang'au tuwavuruge in any language....

english ndio lugha ya baba yako? Is English your native language?????? english ndio inakuletea ugali mezani????? arrogance shall always destroy you people