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[Mwanzi1]

Mwanzi1 i cant even believe you are the one am arguing with over such things. I have known you to be better than this!!

One question i might ask you, are those loans being taken and they are converted to perishable things or fashion???

Something should hit your mind that those loans are being used directly to develop infrastructure that can pay for itself.

As they are paying for themselves, they are enhancing economic activities in other sector. So the benefits are felt across the economic sphere in the country.

The loans will not be payed by the taxes, but from the revenues they generate!

SGR, the revenue from freight, passengers, Leased spaces in the stations etc, A fraction will be used to pay its loan for 10 years. The goodness is no one will feel the effect as revenues will be from the same project.

That is the plan of all the projects in Kenya, no loan has been taken to build a government office of buy state or military equipment, they are all being taken on things that will generate revenue and pay for themselves.

Stop trying to have teaching us, we already know what we are doing

Haha, no one is arguing with anyone, we're here to discuss, debate, exchange view and fun part "mad slinging"

With all that you've said, I let me refer to Mr. Ndii contribution in regurd to African borrowing and repayments. I know this guy is unpopular to certain group of people in Kenya, but he has a point on level of borrowing in Africa and Kenya in particular.

Shopping malls, motorways and the new debt treadmill - New African Magazine

You mentioned the money was not taken to build some fancy projects, but apart from the tracks and rolling stock, what will be the economic impact of the lavishing stations you just build alond the SGR route?? People don't travel like they used to before, where you'll see the whole village comes to the station to wave you goodbye. People travel light these days, so in your view, what will be an economic advantage to have a huge train stations in 2017 keep in mind the current security and power challenges.


Extracted from the article above, it a song you can sing along. [emoji23]

This is why Tanzania has been very cautious when it comes to "out of control borrowing" we try so hard to get the best deal possible.

 

[Mwanzi1]

Dude please!!! To hell with your yapping, you think Kenya is all about borrowing and receiving donations??? Base your arguments on facts and give evidences of each. As a matter of fact Kenya also offers aid, i.e Kenya is Africa's largest contributor to the UN.View attachment 510380
See for yourself
Which Countries Contribute The Most To The United Nations? [Infographic]

Try to understand what type of contributions they're talking about. That is not and it will not be cash money. If that was cash money, the whole of Africa will roll on the ground laughing at Kenya. Why supporting an organization which is busy trying put your sitting president on the dock?

Look, Kenya has the biggest refugee camp in the world, one of the biggest Internally Displaced People. What Kenya is doing is not charging for some services render to UN, including land where refugees camps are located, logistics are partly not charged, the road usage, the airport facilities etc. But if you think that is cash money, them you'll need more schooling.

Read the information below which is widely available online

 

[Mwanzi1]

That was a 2011 article, but doesnt make it irrelevant in our economic situation today. You have only mentioned drought as the reason for Kenya degenerating into an aid dependant countryy, however this is not the first time Kenya has gone thru this, and within those 6yrs it has expirienced myriads of challenges that could have possibly devasted its economy. But thru it all, it has persevered.

Is there a year that has passed without Kenya experiencing drought? And if your point ia that this year and the last had been worse, Tanzania too experienced the problem, not just Kenya.
Kenya economy has been growing despite the challenges. The effect of drought has only had a marginal dent on the growth projections, merely 0.5%.

And the situation is not as dire as u painting in your description about water and food shortages.

I'm even yourself there things you used to do in 2011, you don't do today in 2017. That article need huge amount of updating to make it relevant for today's economic situation.

I'm not sure if you live in Nairobi or not, but the water situation is bad, I pass there this March on my way to Naivasha. Nairobi has dried up. People spend X3 more money to buy water compared to what they used to spend just over a year ago. There Nairobi people who are here in JF can prove me wrong, I'm sure water will take bigger part on this year Nairobi election.

- +0.5% economic fluctuations is not something can be taken lightly, that can reduced or improve significantly the purchasing power of so many families. You might brush it of, but believe me, finance minister is scrunching his head trying to come up with plan to improve the situation. Because that -0.5% is less money of petroleum import, less money for debt repayment, less money on credit health check and so on.