President Kibaki's Unilateral Appointments and Kenya's Political Future

[Inviolata]

jk bado ni aina ya rais kibaki, bunge halina imani na hosea, mwanyika lkn bado anaendelea kuwabeba kwa nguvu zake zote, so sioni kama wanatofauti

Hapa nakubaliana na wewe kabisa hawana tofauti, na haieleweki kwa nini hasa anawabeba, Hosea was even taped akikanusha Richmond kuhusishwa na Rushwa. Sasa inakuwaje mpaka leo bado yupo madarakani. Alitakiwa ajiuzulu lakini Rais Kikwete anambeba. Hosea ananuka rushwa na mtu huyohuyo eti ndio anaongoza PCCB, Shame!

 

[Ab-Titchaz]

Hapa nakubaliana na wewe kabisa hawana tofauti, na haieleweki kwa nini hasa anawabeba, Hosea was even taped akikanusha Richmond kuhusishwa na Rushwa. Sasa inakuwaje mpaka leo bado yupo madarakani. Alitakiwa ajiuzulu lakini Rais Kikwete anambeba. Hosea ananuka rushwa na mtu huyohuyo eti ndio anaongoza PCCB, Shame!

Swali: Je Bunge la Tanzania lina uwezo wa kum-impeach MUUNGWANA kama hakubaliani na suggestions/recommendations zao as in this regard?

 

[William J. Malecela]

Swali: Je Bunge la Tanzania lina uwezo wa kum-impeach MUUNGWANA kama hakubaliani na suggestions/recommendations zao as in this regard?

- Mhhhh! kumbe Kibaki amekuwa empeached jamani? Lini tena hiyo au?

Respect.

FMEs!

 

[Ab-Titchaz]

- Mhhhh! kumbe Kibaki amekuwa empeached jamani? Lini tena hiyo au?

Respect.

FMEs!

Mkuu FMES,

u r reading too much into my statement. Nimeuliza tu swali kama katiba ya
Bongo inaruhusu kitu kama hicho.

Good day.

 

[BAK]

Swali: Je Bunge la Tanzania lina uwezo wa kum-impeach MUUNGWANA kama hakubaliani na suggestions/recommendations zao as in this regard?

Ndugu yangu hili Bunge letu uchwara si unaliona lilivyojaribu kuwapiga vita kwa hali na mali wapiganaji wachache waliomo bungeni ambao wameamua kupambana na mafisadi!?

Sitta pamoja na kuwa sasa naye anajifanya mpiganaji lakini alikuwa mstari wa mbele kuwanyima haki Wabunge katika kujadili kuhusu ufisadi wa vitambulisho vya Taifa, kushindwa kwa Serikali kuwachukulia hatua akina Edward Hosea kingunge wa TAKUKURU na Mwanyika Mwanasheria Mkuu pamoja na kamati ya Mwakyembe kupendekeza hivyo. Sasa kama hawa wa chini ya Kikwete wanakingiwa kifua Bungeni, Kikwete si ndiyo itakuwa kazi kubwa sana maana Wabunge wengi wa CCM wanaweza kuamua kutoka Bungeni ili kususia kumjadili Kikwete.

 

[Mag3]

• Upepo wa mageuzi ulipoanza, tulikuwa wa kwanza katika mbio za kuujadili lakini Kenya wakatutangulia kuupokea.
• Kenya wamekuwa wa kwanza kukitosa chama kilicholeta uhuru, sisi bado tunakikumbatia CCM/Tanu pamoja na mapungufu yake.
• Kenya wamekuwa wa kwanza kumweka benchi mwenyekiti wa tume ya uchaguzi Kivuitu, sisi bado tunakumbatia Jaji Makame na tume yake ya upendeleo.
• Kenya wameweza kuifanyia majaribio serikali ya mseto baada ya uchaguzi uliotawaliwa na fujo, sisi hata kuthubutu huko Zanzibar hatuna ujasiri.
• Kenya Mbunge anathubutu kutokubaliana na chama chake wakati wa kupiga kura, Tanzania kikao cha dharura cha kamati kuu ya chama kitaitishwa.
• Leo Tena Kenya wametuonyesha njia Bunge linavyoweza kuisimamia na kuiwajibisha serikali na kumpinga wazi wazi Raisi wao anapoboronga.

Naipenda Kenya.
​

 

[JoJiPoJi]

Bunge la Tz halijawahi kutamka hayo

Mkuu kamati ya Dr. Mwakyembe imemtaka awawajibishe lkn mpaka leo bado hakuna kinachoendea, au mkuu haukuwa unaelewa kuwa kamati ikisema ndio bunge lote limesema

 

[Mzee2000]

There are Kenyas starving to death now yet Kibaki Reapoints Ringera as the anti-corruption head despite the fact that no single high ranking official has ever been brought to court.

And guess how much ringera is paid, watanzania kama mnafikiri watanzania ni mafisadi fikiria hili: Ringera analipwa $30,000 kwa mwezi! Yes sio kwa mwaka ! Ni kwa mwezi.!Hii ni nchi ambayo kwa sasa inategemea chakula cha world food programme.

Ndio maana nauliza if Kenya is not a failed state what is a failed state?

 

[Lole Gwakisa]

Kenya a State? What State?
We know of a Kikuyu President and a Luo Prime Minister, the rest is a division between the two.

 

[Bluray]

Kenya a State? What State?
We know of a Kikuyu President and a Luo Prime Minister, the rest is a division between the two.

Lol,

So you take it a notch highre, that Kenya cannot be a failed state because it is not a state at all!

Mzee I would like your definition of and criteria for a failed state.

I hear the Somali are organizing to put their country together again, look out Kenya, else the tables might turn.

 

[MaxShimba]

Kenya a failed state or a failed leadership?
GDP per Capita - Kenya Compared to Continent

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Eq. Guinea

$14,941 Seychelles

$10,112 Gabon

$9,987 Botswana

$7,554 Mauritius

$6,872 South Africa

$5,693 Angola

$4,961 Namibia

$4,135 Cape Verde

$3,422 Swaziland

$2,781 Congo(Brazza)

$1,931 Sudan

$1,519 Nigeria

$1,451 Zimbabwe

$1,378 Djibouti

$1,252 Cameroon

$1,199 Zambia

$1,150 Cote d'Ivoire

$1,132 Sao Tome & P.

$1,101 Senegal

$1,066 Mauritania

$1,042 Chad

$862 Kenya

$857 Benin

$856 Comoros

$816 Ghana

$716 Lesotho

$661 Mali

$657 Burkina Faso

$577 Tanzania

$521 Gambia

$496 Mozambique

$465 Rwanda

$465 CAR

$459 Madagascar

$458 Uganda

$453 Guinea

$442 Togo

$436 Niger

$391 Sierra Leone

$332 Ethiopia

$324 Malawi

$313 Eritrea

$295 Guinea-Bissau

$264 Liberia

$212 Congo, DR

$184 Burundi

$138

Kenya: GDP per capita.
The gross domestic product (GDP) per capita is the national output, divided by the population, expressed in U.S dollars per person, for the latest year for which data is published. (see Data FAQs)

 

[Nyaralego]

No, not a failed State. The Kenyan people are slowly but sure not willing to with stand nonsense... I think thats the way forward...

 

[Ab-Titchaz]

Kibaki, a man with one option​

President Kibaki is silent on Ringera after MPs' humiliation but his choices are limited and politically risky​

By Beauttah Omanga

President Kibaki ventured out of State House a day after Parliament rejected his reappointment of Justice Aaron Ringera, but he kept his next course of action to himself.

He stood out as the object of attack by Parliament, assaulted by a House that for decades wanted to be where it was on Wednesday: Imbued with the capacity and will to stand in the way of the President, keep him in check, and show him he would not always have his way. The President has the option, though, of talking to the re-energised Parliament, to get things moving again.

But as he went about his work one thing stood out: On Wednesday evening Parliament made him the first President to have his executive authority challenged by the House, and made a study in how the Legislature can neutralise the so-called imperial powers, leaving him with zero option

After the defeat of his side in Parliament, the question on the lip of his friends is what is/are the President's option(s). Our enquiries revealed it is a zero-sum game for the President - unless he forges a common ground with Parliament. It could be the first time that Kenyans would see the play-out of a tussle that could show there are limits to the President's powers, and that there are laws.

It also could mark the day Parliament claimed an inch, and then began going for a mile ... and the possibility of plummeting relations between the Executive and the Legislature.

What started off as something that could be shrugged off - reappointment of Ringera and his two deputies - has put the President in an awkward position. It is not easy to tell how the President will wriggle out of the position.

On the one hand, insisting that he was right and acted within the law could worsen the situation because Parliament could slay KACC altogether by denying it money to operate.

Where does this leave the President and his party that is looking increasingly fragmented in the House? The debate on Ringera exposed the underbelly of the President's coalition party PNU.

The party could not withstand the firepower against it on the floor of the House from ODM Cabinet members, and even its affiliate - Narc-Kenya.

Whereas debate by those supporting the Motion to annul Kibaki's gazette notice on the reappointment of Ringera and his two assistants, were led by seasoned politicians like Gichugu MP Martha Karua, Cabinet ministers James Orengo, and Anyang' Nyong'o, not many PNU coalition ministers spoke.

Kibaki's big guns did not come out to convince members to vote on their side. Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta and Amos Kimunya took a backseat during the debate. Energy Minister Kairaitu Murungi and Internal Security Minister George Saitoti were away. Political analysts and lawyers were unanimous Kibaki's decision was precarious, as he seeks traction with the public mood, while ensuring his interests in seeking a Ringera replacement.

Key options

University of Nairobi political scientist Adams Oloo said the President has three key options: To choose to remain silent, await the court verdict on pending matters, or prevail upon Ringera and his two assistants to resign, and reapply through the board.

Dr Oloo said the President should accept that he erred and de-gazette the appointments.

Tom Wolf, Synovate's head of research, said Kibaki's advisors seemed keen to ensure KACC director "is someone they can work with".

"If Ringera stepped down now, there would be no acting director in that office and as the Advisory Board has indicated it would advertise the post... But do they (Kibaki's cronies) have leverage to ensure the one appointed is the one they can work with?" posed Wolf.

"Maybe Ringera's team has compiled a lot of very damaging information about very powerful people... we are likely to see interesting competition in the Advisory Board in filling the vacancy if that is the way to go," Dr Wolf predicted.

Lawyer Paul Mwangi said the President could revoke the appointment and treat it as an error, agree with Parliament and the public mood, and ask Ringera to resign voluntarily or ignore Parliament's decision.

Mwangi said it would be better for Kibaki to take cue from Kenyans that the decision to extend Ringera's tenure was an illegality and nullify it.

Lawyers Paul Muite, Abdullahi Ahmednassir and James Mwamu told the President that he has no way out than respecting the Legislature's decision to overturn Ringera's reappointment.

He criticised the Advisory Board headed by Okong'o Omogeni of being slow in advertising the three positions. He said Omogeni's team should now declare the position vacant and have it filled. Muite and Mwamu advised Ringera to resign to avoid unnecessary confrontations.

Muite said the only option for Kibaki now was to prevail upon the three directors to resign.

"That office calls for public goodwill. Ringera being an officer of the High Court, should respect the decision taken by the Legislature and leave office," urged Mwamu.

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=1144024261&cid=4&ttl=Kibaki,%20a%20man%20with%20one%20option

 

[Smatta]

There are Kenyas starving to death now yet Kibaki Reapoints Ringera as the anti-corruption head despite the fact that no single high ranking official has ever been brought to court.

And guess how much ringera is paid, watanzania kama mnafikiri watanzania ni mafisadi fikiria hili: Ringera analipwa $30,000 kwa mwezi! Yes sio kwa mwaka ! Ni kwa mwezi.!Hii ni nchi ambayo kwa sasa inategemea chakula cha world food programme.

Ndio maana nauliza if Kenya is not a failed state what is a failed state?

Stop derailing the thread, we are facing a bad drought, and therefore the goverment cant feed majority of its people, that in my opinion, doesn't mean that we are a failed or a failing state (get your parameters right).

Ringera being paid Milllions is a non issue, people are not in dispute with how much the dude is being paid, we are more concerned with his performance, for if he was being paid a whooping 20 Milli and doing his work properly, we wouldn't complain, got it???

I wonder if you know what a failed state is, am just trying to be polite coz if I typed what was in my heart right now, I would face a ban.
Regards,
Smatta.

 

[Smatta]

Kenya a State? What State?
We know of a Kikuyu President and a Luo Prime Minister, the rest is a division between the two.

I have done drugs in my life, but never, even in one instance have I shared a school of thought with some of y'all. If Kenya was not a state, what is it? what is a state by the way? What about a government? Are you doing better than we are? Do you think the whole of Kenya is like Pokot, or Marsabit or Kibera (sorry to my brothers and sisters in the struggle for a better life)?

Do you sometimes think before keying words into your keyboard? do you know that there are many Kenyans who read these forums as guest and take it that you have a resentment towards them and thus easily switch to defensive mode against your people? Do most of you hate Kenyans, and if yes, what have we ever done to deserve the hate?

Am not trying to clear my name or anything, am just being real, am a Patriot, I love my country to death and will never sit down and read a comment from a dimwit sayiing that we are a failed state, or a non existing nation, and am sure we aren't, not if am a member in this here forum. We should respect other peoples feeling because the animosity towards us here is 'overwhelming', and this will lead to our decline as nations. You cant call us poor and I know that am living better than the next bloke in here. Respect is two way, play your part and I will play mine, disrespect me and I will disrespect you.

Les respect the title of the thread, do not write anything about the 'unbelievable poverty' in Kenya, while am sure your country is not better off.

SMATTA

 

[Ndahani]

Well, kazi kubwa ipo mbele yetu.Uongozi wa afrika umegubikwa na kila namna ya hila. Kibaki alipigana sana awe Rais. Baada ya kuwa Rais amesahau alikuwa anapigania nini. Anaendeleza mambo yaleyale walioyafanya waliopita.

 

[Bad Seed]

Kenya a State? What State?
We know of a Kikuyu President and a Luo Prime Minister, the rest is a division between the two.

Stupidity in an adult is a shame, sometimes its good to keep your crapper shut.