President Museveni’s condemnation of ICC during Uhuru's inauguration hypocritical.

[Ab-Titchaz]

President Museveni's condemnation of ICC hypocritical.

Updated 8 hrs 50 mins ago


It was sad and completely uncalled for by President Yoweri Kaguta Museveni to hit out at the International Criminal Court during the inauguration of Kenya's fourth president Uhuru Kenyatta.

It was hypocritical for Museveni to use the occasion to criticize ICC and yet he is not only cooperating but collaborating with the same institution and America to hunt down the leader of LRA joseph Kony who is fighting his regime.

President Museveni should be the last person to criticize ICC especially because of his poor and dictorial leadership style in Uganda. It was shameful and embarrassing for Kenyans and the people of Uganda and the world at large to watch Museveni criticize an important institution that he is not only a founder member but that he is working with pretending to be fighting injustices and crimes against humanity like the case of Kony of LRA.

It is a wonder that how comes it is only African leaders especially those who have failed integrity test that are complaining about ICC. ICC as an international organization may not be perfect in its way of conducting its business but it is a very important watchdog to world leaders who have no respect to human lives and who can go to any length to retain power whether it is wiping out a whole community like is the case with most African leaders in the past and currently.

Any leader that has blood in his hands and who have been accused of letting blood of innocent people should be held responsible for his actions whether by ICC or whatever. In fact instead of the International Criminal Court (ICC) the African Union Commission should have become a strong watchdog for the African people if it were strong and independent.

President Museveni is a leader that most Ugandans would love to get rid of because of failed leadership. If it were not for fake and failed democracy in Uganda and most countries of Africa, President Museveni among other African leaders who have failed the continent should have become assets of political dustbin. Like many of his Africa comrades in Africa e.g. Rwanda, Sudan, Zimbabwe, Museveni is struggling by all means to remain life presidents of Uganda even if it means using parliament and changing the constitutions.

Leaders with questionable integrity in Africa and in the world should not be allowed to interfere with and to undermine credible institutions like ICC for the sake of advancing their own personal and selfish interest. In fact, ICC as an organization should expand its mandate to include bad governance, corruption and nepotism also as elements of crimes against humanity and therefore punishable before court of law.

European and western nations including some prominent countries in Asia and Far East Asia cannot be said to be very democratic but have succeeded in advancing economic developments in their countries for the benefit of their people by setting out agendas and strategies aimed at empowering the people and making their lives comfortable.

China even though being criticized for not practicing democracy has its own style of political leadership that has enabled to develop both politically and economically. Despite the criticism especially from the western world, China has managed to become a world power not only because of hard work but also because of strong leadership that has placed interest of its people as priority beyond personal interest of any individual leader. Through a committed leadership China has managed to put in place serious economic plans and strategies which have propelled the country to become a leading world power today.

Some African leaders have let the continent down. They are taking Africa back to the old dark days instead of moving forward. Africa is retrogressing instead of advancing surely because of bad, poor and myopic leadership.

The International Criminal Court as an international organization has good intentions and should not be condemned simply because of selfish interest by a few individuals interested in retaining and grabbing power.

It was encouraging that even though president Museveni made demeaning outburst against ICC, President Uhuru Kenyatta and his Deputy William Ruto who are indicted by ICC remained calm and maintained their promise to cooperate with ICC. President Museveni of Uganda should not only apologize to the United Nations and the International Criminal Court but also to Kenyans, Uganda's and most Africans who believe and have hopes in the international Court.

ICC on the hand should take necessary punitive measures against Museveni who has behaved contrary to the principles and ideals of the organization that he serving as a member. In fact European and other Western diplomats present at the function should have walked out of the ceremony to protest against President Museveni's remarks about ICC.

By Denise Kodhe,
Executive Director,
Institute for Democracy & Leadership in Africa- IDEA

 

[EMT]

Si walisema wataanzisha ICC yao ya Kiafrika?

Ule mpango umeishia wapi?

 

[Ab-Titchaz]

Here is what M-7 said:


Museveni salutes Kenyans for 'rejecting ICC'

Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni addresses the public during inauguration of Uhuru Kenyatta as Kenya's fourth President at Moi International Sports Centre, Kasarani, on Tuesday. [Photo: Govedi Asutsa/Standard]

By David Ohito

Kenya: Uganda's President Yoweri Museveni stirred fresh International Criminal Court debate during President Uhuru's inauguration ceremony on Tuesday in Nairobi.

Museveni, who is also the the Comesa chairman, was among dignitaries attending the swearing in and handing over ceremony held at Moi International Sports Centre Kasarani.

"I want to salute the Kenyan voters on one issue – the rejection of the blackmail by the International Criminal Court (ICC) and those who seek to abuse this institution for their own agenda" Museveni said in statement.

Said Museveni; Furthermore, " I was one of those that supported the ICC because I abhor impunity. However, the usual opinionated and arrogant actors using their careless analysis have distorted the purpose of that institution. They are now using it to install leaders of their choice in Africa and eliminate the ones they do not like."

He added: "What happened here in 2007 was regrettable and must be condemned. A legalistic process, especially an external one, however, cannot address those events. Events of this nature first and most importantly, need an ideological solution by discerning why they happened. Why did inter community violence occur? Was it for genuine or false reasons? Even if you assume they were genuine reasons as a hypothetical argument, why should villagers attack one another? Would the villagers have been responsible for whatever mistakes that would have occurred?"

Musveni who previously supported ICC and the arrest of Ugandan fugitive Joseph Kony said : "Instead of a thorough and thoughtful process, we have individuals engaged in legal gymnastics! In Uganda's case, between 1966 and 1986, we lost about 800,000 persons killed by the leaders who were in charge of the country. How did we handle that sad history? Have you ever heard us asking ICC or the UN to come and help us deal with that sad chapter of our history?"

He argued: "We only referred Joseph Kony of LRA to ICC because he was operating outside Uganda. Otherwise, we would have handled him ourselves. Equally, Kenyan actors are the ones best qualified to sit and delve into their history in order to discover the ideological stimuli the Kenyan society needs. I, therefore, use this opportunity to salute the Kenyan voters again, rejecting that blackmail and upholding the sovereignty of the Kenyan people. The people of Kenya extended hospitality to Ugandans when they had to run out of their country because of criminal rule in Uganda."

Kenya's President Uhuru Kenyatta and his deputy William Ruto are facing crimes against humanity charges at the ICC following the disputed 2007/8 presidential election that left over a thousand dead.

Standard Digital News - Kenya : Museveni salutes Kenyans for 'rejecting ICC'

 

[Ab-Titchaz]

Si walisema wataanzisha ICC yao ya Kiafrika?

Ule mpango umeishia wapi?

Mkuu,

ukiulizia umeishia wapi nadhani unawapa tafu ya bure tu hawa viongozi wa kiafrika.
Ungeuliza 'Mpango ulianzia wapi..."

Hawa watu hawaezi kufanya lolote la maana ukizingatia kwamba maslahi yao ni
tofauti kabisa...kutoka nchi moja hadi nyengine. Afu pia ukizangatia kua wengi
wao itabidi waende katika hio Mahakama kujibu mashtaka. Hapo ndo kabisaaa!...hujaona mtu.

 

[crabat]

Hao IDEA ni wanafiki tu
Anachosema M7 ni sahihi
Mabeberu wao hawasumbuliwi na ICC so why Africans? Kwa sababu maskini ? Sheria ziwe kwa wote


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[Roulette]

Unafiki naam. Huyu mu7 aliwaomba ICC wamfunge Joseph Kony. Alipoona anajiandaa kwenda kwa Uhuru akapmba kwanza ku-withdraw ile warrant (done) then akaenda kumwaga hiyo statement. In the mean time Kony is still free and no warrant has been issued against him, not even local Ugandan court.

 

[Ndinani]

Hao mnaosema mabeberu hawasumbuliwi ni kwasababu wao hawamo kwenye huo mkataba ulioanzisha ICC; sasa hawa waafrika walitia saini mkataba ule pengine bila kuelewa repercussions zake na sasa mkataba unapotekelezwa na kuwabana wao wanaanza kulia!! Ni tatizo la ujinga wao kuingia mikataba bila kuielewa.

 

[lopeighz]

Hao mnaosema mabeberu hawasumbuliwi ni kwasababu wao hawamo kwenye huo mkataba ulioanzisha ICC; sasa hawa waafrika walitia saini mkataba ule pengine bila kuelewa repercussions zake na sasa mkataba unapotekelezwa na kuwabana wao wanaanza kulia!! Ni tatizo la ujinga wao kuingia mikataba bila kuielewa.

Wakati mwingi hatuelewi roles za ICC na statutes zake ndio maana kunatokea post kama hii. kuingia kwenye ICC sio ujinga na sidhani kutakuwa na decision kutaka kujiondoa kutoka statutes hizo. hizo rome statues zitabaki tu kuzuia uongozi ubabe.

hata ntaganda kaamini kesi yake haitsimama bila ICC kuwa na ushaidi na kujisalimisha mwenyewe bila kushurutishwa na yeyote.

 

[Ndinani]

Wakati mwingi hatuelewi roles za ICC na statutes zake ndio maana kunatokea post kama hii. kuingia kwenye ICC sio ujinga na sidhani kutakuwa na decision kutaka kujiondoa kutoka statutes hizo. hizo rome statues zitabaki tu kuzuia uongozi ubabe.

hata ntaganda kaamini kesi yake haitsimama bila ICC kuwa na ushaidi na kujisalimisha mwenyewe bila kushurutishwa na yeyote.

Ujinga ninaouzungumzia ni kule kuzikubali hizo statutes halafu kama wakina Museveni kuanza kuzishuku pale watu kama wakina Uhuru na Ruto wanapokabiliwa na mashtaka. Americans are not party to the statutes kwahiyo kusema kuwa ICC inawaogopa ndio maana wakina Bush hawashtakiwi sio sahihi!!!! Kama hizo Statutes unazozisema zingekuwa applicable kwa kila taifa basi hivi leo Bush na Blair wangekuwa Hague kujibu atrocities walizofanya huko Iraq.

 

[Jammu Africa]

The attendance of the Africa's powerful presidents,,in Nairobi
(pres Nzuma of S Africa, Goodwill of Nigeria, Kikwete of
Tanzania, Museveni of Uganda etc)on 9th April,,,sent a strong
signal to the western countries and their supporter that
Africa will no longer entertain manipulation from the west.

And to make it,,,even more clear,,,president Museveni
went ahead and said what was there,,,,all with eyes,,
to see.

That ICC is a western club to deal,,,,and manipulate
the Africans and nothing like justice,,,in their agenda.

True,,,,,,,, so many more pressing problems in the world as
in the Israel-Palestinian problems where the west kept a blind
eye when Palestinians are suffering under the Israeli hands.

This is,,just one example,,there so many more but
these so called international whatever aren't there,
where they are needed most.

Thanks president Museveni for saying it aloud,,,you are a
true African hero and in future,,many in Africa will wonder
how you were capable of thinking and seeing more than
the others.

Let the western countries and their organization listen
to Musevenis of Africa,,,,,,,and see writings on the
wall,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that your days are numbered.

Where now,,,is that American,,mr Carson,,,,
with his threats,,to Kenyans,,did he work for that thing called
kwon as,, ICC,,,,ohhh...what a big joke,,,,

 

[Jammu Africa]

It was shameful and embarrassing for Kenyans and the people of Uganda and the world at large to watch Museveni criticize an important institution that he is not only a founder member but that he is working with pretending to be fighting injustices and crimes against humanity like the case of Kony of LRA.

It is wrong for anyone,,,,,,,,,trying to speak for others.

When people used the word 'WE' to mean I is gone
and we are,,these days,,individuals and no longer
any foolish blocks to be used by a few individual
with their own selfish ends.

If you asked me,,,a Kenyan,,,i will tell you
that Museveni is just like a messiah,,,a
god's send African leader with a mouth
to speak the truth and let the world
sink,,,if it is the western countries
that holds the universe,,afloat.

It is time to stand on our own,,,we in Africa
and catch up with the rest,,,we have to be
brave,,like Museven and call a spend a spend
when dealing with neighbors.

To these Africans who benefits from these westerns
manipulations,,,,,,employed or getting funds from the
west,,,,,to locally,,run some dubious organizations,,
only iknown on papers and never seen operating
on ground,,,,,,,,that,,,,,you are doing a disservice
to your mother continent,,Africa.

 

[Masaningala]

Mimi ninadhani ukitaka kuukosoa mfumo au utaratibu ambao wewe ni sehemu ya huo mfumo au utaratibu, ni budi ufanye hivyo kufuata mfumo/utaratibu wa ukosoaji ulio ndani ya mfumo husika. Vinginevyo utatakiwa ujiondoe katika mfumo huo kwanza ndipo unaweza kuukosoa nje ya utaratibu wa mfumo huo. Kwa hili, Museveni alikosea sana kuikosoa ICC kwani Uganda ni mwanachama wa ICC wa hiari na sio wa kulazimishwa.

 

[speechwriter]

video?

 

[lopeighz]

Ujinga ninaouzungumzia ni kule kuzikubali hizo statutes halafu kama wakina Museveni kuanza kuzishuku pale watu kama wakina Uhuru na Ruto wanapokabiliwa na mashtaka. Americans are not party to the statutes kwahiyo kusema kuwa ICC inawaogopa ndio maana wakina Bush hawashtakiwi sio sahihi!!!! Kama hizo Statutes unazozisema zingekuwa applicable kwa kila taifa basi hivi leo Bush na Blair wangekuwa Hague kujibu atrocities walizofanya huko Iraq.

ndio, nimekuwa na hizi mijadala kwa muda sasa, na kukubali mkataba na ICC haikuwa ujinga, ulikuwa na maana. museveni alichokubali kama rais ni mkataba na ICC kuzuia uongozi mbaya mpaka pale viongozi walipogundua kumbe ICC is not independent kama wengi walivodhani. M7 alikuwa na haki ya kuiingilia kwa sababu aliweka mkataba wa ICC kumtafuta joseph kony

yawezekana walioanza hizi rome statutes wasipewe lawama, lawama ipewe wanasiasa kutoka marekani na kwingineko ambao licha kujua wao sio signitories wanazidi kutumia mahakama hio kulingana na matakwa yao kuharibu uongozi na wakati mwingine kufuruga amani katika mataifa ya afrika pekee.

if you understand what I mean, never call the piper if you do not own the tune

 

[Bukyanagandi]

Hao IDEA ni wanafiki tu
Anachosema M7 ni sahihi
Mabeberu wao hawasumbuliwi na ICC so why Africans? Kwa sababu maskini ? Sheria ziwe kwa wote


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Mkuu sio kweli, mbona Slobodan Milošević na wezake walikuwa ni mzungu wenzao. Viogozi wa kiafrica ni janga hawapaswi kuachwa wafanye watakavyo bila ya kuwepo, check and balance tukichena nao watatumaliza.

Waswahili bwana! M7 alipo shika madaraka kitu cha kwanza ni kuwalahumu Viongozi wa Kiafrica wanao g'ang'ania madarakani, sasa yeye huu ni mwaka wa ngapi bado yuko madarakani kampa uwaziri mke wake na inaelekea anamtayarisha mtoto wake Keinerugaba aje kuwa mrithi wake, si hilo tu juzi juzi hapa Viongozi wa jeshi la Uganda lilitishia Bunge kwamba wakileta nyoko nyoko basi jeshi litachukua madaraka! Hii manake nini? ni mbinu za M7 anataka kufanya hivyo kabla ya kuondoka madarakani hili nchi itawaliwe kijeshi na mtoto wake ambaye ni mwanajeshi awe Kiongozi wa nchi - hilo watu hawajalishtukia - sasa mtu kama huyu unafikili atapenda uwepo wa ICC?

Narudia kusema ICC inasadia sana kuwatia adabu viongozi dhalimu, bila ya kuwepo ICC nchi za Kiafrica zitaishia kutawaliwa life Presidents au kuwalithisha watoto, wake zao madaraka, ku-muzzle vyombo vya habari, kutafuta kila mbinu kuuua vyama vya upinzani, kuchakachua katiba, hawafikili hata mara mbili kabla ya kuua raia wasio na hatia-Kisa wanawatilia kiwingu katika utawala wao. We angalia akili zetu Wafrica zilivyo, huyo mama wa Kinigeria aliyeko hapo the Hague naona anafanya ujanja ujanja kujaribu ku-water down mashtaka yanayo wakabili Wafrica Wenzake ili wasitiwe MBARONI - Sisi ni binadamu wa ajabu sana.

 

[Utingo]

Hao IDEA ni wanafiki tu
Anachosema M7 ni sahihi
Mabeberu wao hawasumbuliwi na ICC so why Africans? Kwa sababu maskini ? Sheria ziwe kwa wote


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MSeveni ni mwongo na anayekubaliana naye ni mpuuzi kama yeye, kama ICC ni problem kwa aliwaomba ICC wamshughulikie Joseph Koni?

African leaders ni disaster kama Adolf Hitler wanapaswa kushughulikiwa. Uchu wao wa madaraka wako tayari hata kuua nusu ya mataifa yao.

 

[Dr. Job]

It is wrong for anyone,,,,,,,,,trying to speak for others.

When people used the word 'WE' to mean I is gone
and we are,,these days,,individuals and no longer
any foolish blocks to be used by a few individual
with their own selfish ends.

If you asked me,,,a Kenyan,,,i will tell you
that Museveni is just like a messiah,,,a
god's send African leader with a mouth
to speak the truth and let the world
sink,,,if it is the western countries
that holds the universe,,afloat.

It is time to stand on our own,,,we in Africa
and catch up with the rest,,,we have to be
brave,,like Museven and call a spend a spend
when dealing with neighbors.

To these Africans who benefits from these westerns
manipulations,,,,,,employed or getting funds from the
west,,,,,to locally,,run some dubious organizations,,
only iknown on papers and never seen operating
on ground,,,,,,,,that,,,,,you are doing a disservice
to your mother continent,,Africa.

I dont know if I should call this blind nationalism or stupidity!

 

[crabat]

Mkuu sio kweli, mbona Slobodan Milošević na wezake walikuwa ni mzungu wenzao. Viogozi wa kiafrica ni janga hawapaswi kuachwa wafanye watakavyo bila ya kuwepo, check and balance tukichena nao watatumaliza.

Waswahili bwana! M7 alipo shika madaraka kitu cha kwanza ni kuwalahumu Viongozi wa Kiafrica wanao g'ang'ania madarakani, sasa yeye huu ni mwaka wa ngapi bado yuko madarakani kampa uwaziri mke wake na inaelekea anamtayarisha mtoto wake Keinerugaba aje kuwa mrithi wake, si hilo tu juzi juzi hapa Viongozi wa jeshi la Uganda lilitishia Bunge kwamba wakileta nyoko nyoko basi jeshi litachukua madaraka! Hii manake nini? ni mbinu za M7 anataka kufanya hivyo kabla ya kuondoka madarakani hili nchi itawaliwe kijeshi na mtoto wake ambaye ni mwanajeshi awe Kiongozi wa nchi - hilo watu hawajalishtukia - sasa mtu kama huyu unafikili atapenda uwepo wa ICC?

Narudia kusema ICC inasadia sana kuwatia adabu viongozi dhalimu, bila ya kuwepo ICC nchi za Kiafrica zitaishia kutawaliwa life Presidents au kuwalithisha watoto, wake zao madaraka, ku-muzzle vyombo vya habari, kutafuta kila mbinu kuuua vyama vya upinzani, kuchakachua katiba, hawafikili hata mara mbili kabla ya kuua raia wasio na hatia-Kisa wanawatilia kiwingu katika utawala wao. We angalia akili zetu Wafrica zilivyo, huyo mama wa Kinigeria aliyeko hapo the Hague naona anafanya ujanja ujanja kujaribu ku-water down mashtaka yanayo wakabili Wafrica Wenzake ili wasitiwe MBARONI - Sisi ni binadamu wa ajabu sana.

slobadan ni mzungu wa east...na socialist

 

[Crucial Man]

Chezea viongozi wa kiafrika wewe,bila icc unazani hata huko kenya kungekalika?ni ile kuogopa tu icc ndio ikawafanya wakina odinga kutulia,la sivyo pangekuwa hapatoshi,ukizingatia uchaguzi wenyewe ulikuwa na mizengwe kibao.m7 yeye kwa nini anangangania madaraka,huu ni muhula wa ngapi?mwenzake kagame pia ana mpango huo huo,juzi eti chama cha kagame kimeitisha kikao cha kamati kuu,na kujadili eti wanyaruanda wana wasi wasi kagame akiondoka vita itatokea tena,haya yote ni mipango ya kutaka azidi kutawala.icc izidi kuepo na kuwashikisha adabu viongozi wetu wanao tumia madaraka yao vibaya.wenzetu ulaya hawauwi watu wao ila wanawaprotect,sisi ni mauaji kwenda mbele.

 

[Bukyanagandi]

slobadan ni mzungu wa east...na socialist

As if sijui alikuwa ni Rais wa former Yugoslavia!! Ungesema alikuwa ni Mwafrica ningekuelewa.