Rabi Leo Baeck ni nani kwa Israel?

Rabi Leo Baeck ni nani kwa Israel?

Punjab Singh said:
There are some erros here!

1) YHWH means I am One
2) Yehova = Elohim means The God of them All
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Ni kitu kilekile tu... sema labda katika maana nyingine... kwa mfano ninaposema "yeye ndiye asababishaye kuwapo" inamaana hapo ni mmoja... au MIMI NIKO, inamaana ya kwamba ni mmoja...

Nikirudi katika Yehova-Elohim, Bwana ni Mungu, vyovyote vile itakuwa ni Mungu kwa wote,

Mwanzo 2:7 Bwana Mungu akamfanya mtu kwa mavumbi ya ardhi, akampulizia puani pumzi ya uhai; mtu akawa nafsi hai.

Kwa muktadha huo kulingana na hiyo verse hapo juu automatically atakuwa ni Mungu kwa wote...
 
Mkuu wa chuo said:
Ni kitu kilekile tu... sema labda katika maana nyingine... kwa mfano ninaposema "yeye ndiye asababishaye kuwapo" inamaana hapo ni mmoja... au MIMI NIKO, inamaana ya kwamba ni mmoja...

Nikirudi katika Yehova-Elohim, Bwana ni Mungu, vyovyote vile itakuwa ni Mungu kwa wote,

Mwanzo 2:7 Bwana Mungu akamfanya mtu kwa mavumbi ya ardhi, akampulizia puani pumzi ya uhai; mtu akawa nafsi hai.

Kwa muktadha huo kulingana na hiyo verse hapo juu automatically atakuwa ni Mungu kwa wote...
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You have to know hebrew vocabulary, Yehova, YHWH, Eloh has one meaning = God but when Eloh turns to Elohim it means Their God {Lord}
 
The people who wrote the Torah were a diverse group of cultists, priests, scribes and redactors. This is why God is named Elohim in Gen 1 but Yahveh in Gen 2, and why the mountain of Moses received the ten law is called Mt Sinai in one verse and Mt Horeb in another and yet a third place, the Mountain of God. These authors represented different Jewish schools over a span of several hundred years, reflected in different stages of Hebrew, use of Aramaic and Chaldee and so on.
 
In The Old Testament (OT) there are actually three
different gods.
Here is something helpful to actually differentiate
them.
Grab a copy of the original King James Version
(Not The New King James Version) and here is
the code:
God=Elohim
Lord God=Jehovah or Yahweh
Lord=Adoni
In Genesis 1:1 it reads
"In the Beginning God created the heavens
and the earth."
Therefore Elohim is God. The other two are gods
(with a small g) or false gods.
Once knowing the code, one can read pretty
quickly who the good guy is and also all
the nasty stuff is said and done by Jehovah
and Adoni
 
For example, as the OP stated
There were actually two different
creations, first Elohim created Humans
(on the 6th day)
In fact, the word 'God' is used throughout
the entire first chapter of Genesis when
everything was created.
The final verse of Chapter one:
"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."
The first Paragraph of Chapter two:
"Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."
Notice it consistently uses the word 'God' which is Elohim.
Now, the VERY NEXT paragraph, and remember up until now
its all been 'God' all the way from Genesis 1:1
This is the second paragraph of Chapter 2:
"4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,..."
Notice now its "the Lord God" That is Jehovah who is LYING
He did not create the heavens and the earth, that was Elohim.
Here is Jehovah pretending to be God while God is resting.
Verse 7:
Now remember, this is AFTER Elohim created humans, and declared
the seventh day to be a day of rest (in which nothing else was to
be created)
Verse 7:
"7And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul"
Therefore, right off the bat, we see EXACTLY what Elohim
forbid, that anything else be created on His day of rest, which
is EXACTLY what Jehovah does; and he creates mankind (Adam
means Mankind)
The entire Garden of Eden story is now about Jehovah
 
If Moses wrote the Bible, and the book came from God who told Moses who wrote the Torah to tell us, then it must be explained why there are conflicts and contradictions in the historical accounts in the manuscripts. These conflicts can be found even in a single story, like the story of Noah's Ark and the flood story in Genesis. The stories conflict in detail and the conflict in facts correspond to the two different names used for God in each version, Yahweh in one story, Elohim in the other story. This is no coincidence and indicate that the stories were composed of two separate stories, written by different, unknown authors, and that the stories were then chopped up and edited together in Genesis. It is a little known fact that famous stories in the Bible that we think we know are actually just one version of events. (See The Golden Calfstory of the reception of the Ten Commandments, which demonstrates that there were actually two versions of the reception of the Ten Commandments, not just the famous story we are all familiar with from movies, and indicates that it was not simply Moses who wrote the Bible, or consider the multiple versions of the David and Goliathtale, both famous, and both a selective description of an event which on the pages of the Bible proves to be related in variant and contradictory forms.) Another example of the same sort of thing is the story of Noah's Ark. This story is quite interesting. If you consider both the story of David and Goliath and the story of the Golden Calf you will note that two contradictory traditions were spun and wove together in an attempt to weave one story out of multiple conflicting traditions. The effort fails, and the fact that it fails is interesting in and of itself
 
The story of the flood consists of two separate traditions chopped into pieces and then spun together, with inconsistent passages intact. In one version God is referred to as Elohim, which is usually translated God in the Bible, but is actually plural, and means gods. In the other version God is referred to as Yahweh, which is usually translated YAHWEH. These two different names of God each correspond to the different details in the two conflicting versions of the flood story. Separate the names of God, and you will separate the two flood stories, each emerging with its separate details intact, making the story of Noah's ark and the flood one of the most famous examples of the practice of source criticism and redaction criticism in the Bible. In one version, the one we are all familiar with, it rained for ‘forty days and nights." But another version is also present, but is ignored.
"The flood lasted forty days on the earth."(Genesis Chapter 7 verse 17)
"When the water had increased over the earth for a hundred and fifty days, God took thought for Noah and the beasts and cattle with him in the ark, and he caused a wind to blow over the earth, so that the water began to subside. The springs of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped up, the downpour from the skies was checked."(Genesis Chapter 7 verse 24)
Similar conflicts are found in the story of the animals going onto the ark. In one version we are specifically told that all animals, ‘clean' and ‘unclean' went onto the ark two by two, and in the variant (priestly) version of the story the ‘clean' ani
 
How you have fallen from heaven,Helel Ben Shahar!You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!
You said in your heart, “I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars ofEl; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself likeEl Elyon.”
- Isaiah 14:12-14
 
Helel Ben Shahar means:"Helel, son of Shahar"
Shaharis the Canaanite god of Venus.
Venus= Inanna= Ishtar= Athirat= Asherah
Asherah/Athirat is the consort of El.
We can now derive:"Helel, son of Asherah/Athirat and El"
Now, let us examine "Mount Zaphon."
Mount Zephon is known today as Mount Aqraa. It is upon this mountain that Baal Hadad, son of El and Athirat/Asherah, established his throne and sanctuary. From this event of the Baal Cycle, we get the name/title: Baal-Zephon.
Of related relevance, we have El Shaddai(El of the Mountain), and Zeus Kasios(Zeus of the Mountain [Mount Olympus]).
The two following phrases should be self-evident:
"I will raise my throne above the stars of El."
"I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like El Elyon."
Once again, we find the old archetypal power struggle, ascension, and usurpation:
• (Most High) El Elyon, An, Anu, Alalu, Allah Al-Aliyy, Uranus, Caelus
• (God the Father) El, Enlil, Kumarbi, Cronus, Saturn
• (Son of God) Yahweh, Baal Hadad, Marduk, Teshub, Zeus, Jupiter
g
 
Elungata said:
Lakini hakuna nyota inayoonekana saa moja asubuhi wala saa mbili.na hapa wazi kinachoongelewa ni ile nyota inayoonekanaga asubuhi iking'aa kabla hapajakucha,nyota hii actually ni sayari ya venus ,
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Una matatizo sana wewe na hujajua tu ...

Ukiona nyota mawazo yako yanajikita kwenye nyota tu na hujui hata jua nalo ni nyota ...!!
 
Mkuu wa chuo said:
Mkuu, Kuna hiyo YHWH ambayo inachanganya, hebu angalia na hizi mkuu... Yehova ipo kwenye Bible... Halafu YHWH inaelezewa kama MIMI NIKO, sijui kwanini imekuwa hivyo!?

Yehova-Elohim Bwana ni Mungu (Wangu) Mwanzo 2:7

Yehova-Jireh Bwana ni mpaji (Mwanzo 22:13-14)

Yehova-Tsidkenu Bwana ni haki (Yeremia 23:6)

Yehova-Ra'ah Bwana ni mchungaji (Zaburi 23:1)

Yehova-Rafa Bwana ni mponyaji (Kutoka 15:26)

Yehova-Shalom Bwana ni amani (Waamuzi 6:24)

Yehova-Nissi Bwana ni bendera (Kutoka 17:15)

El-Shaddai Mungu mwenye enzi (Mwanzo 17:1)

El-Elyon Mungu aliye juu zaidi (Mwanzo 14:18)

El-Roi Mungu aonaye (Mwanzo 16:13)

El-Olam Mungu aishiye milele (Mwanzo 21:33)
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Mkuu,wanadai kuwa YHWH ni Kiebrania na ndivyo ambavyo jina la Mungu linavyoandikwa kwa Kiebrania,ukifuatilia mkuu utakuja kugundua kuwa sio kweli na hata namna hizo tetragramaton zinavyoandikwa sio kwa Kiebrania bali ni lugha nyingine na wala hazina maana ya I AM

I AM kwa Kiebrania ni EHYEH na herufi ambazo zilikuwa zinawakilisha jina la Mungu kwasababu kwenye Kiebrania cha kale hakukuwa na hizi a,e,i,o,u ni HYH

Najua neno hilo lipo kwenye Biblia na najiuliza sana sababu hiyo mkuu!
 
Punjab Singh said:
There are some erros here!

1) YHWH means I am One
2) Yehova = Elohim means The God of them All
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YHWH haimaanishi "I am one",bali inamaanisha "nitakuwa nitakavyokuwa"
Yehova ni gues name kutoka kwenye tetragramaton YHWH na haina uhusiano ya Elohim

Elihim kwa Kiswahili ni miungu,yaani Elohim inawakilisha wingi wa Mungu na imetokana na neno Mungu kwa Kiebrania ambayo ni El na kwa Kiarabu ni Il kwasababu E ya kwenye Kiebrania hubadilika na kuwa I kwenye Kiarabu mfano ni Isra-El na kwenye Kiarabu inakuwa Isra-Il!
 
Lucifer" is not mentioned in the Hebrew Bible. Where many translate Isaiah 14:12 as, "Lucifer, son of the morning," the Hebrew actually states,"Helel ben Shashar."
" Lucifer, son of the morning," is an archaic mistranslation which implies, "Morning Star (Lucifer) son of the morning (Sun)," or "Light Bearer, bringer of Light," or " Phosphorus, son of the morning." This is incorrect.
So we must forget about "Lucifer," and examine the phrase, "Helel ben Shashar." This phrase means, "Helel son of Shashar." As discussed previously, "Shashar" is a Canaanite deity representative of the "Morning Star," which is Venus on the eastern horizon before sunrise. This deity is synonymous with the Greek deity "Phosphorus".
Now we have, "Helel son of Shashar/Phosphorus/Morning Star".
As we have the "Morning Star," we also have the "Evening Star." Venus, as the evening star, sits on the western horizon after sunset. The evening star was known in the Levant as the deity Shalim,and to the Greeks as the deity Hesperus.
The Greeks treated the morning star as one deity, and the evening star as a separate deity,... although they knew that both were the planet Venus. In tale and story, Venus was separated into Phosphorus and Hesperus., but always understood, intellectually, to both be Venus. The same can be said about the Levantines regarding Shashar and Shalim. Both cultures knew the morning and evening stars to be Venus
 
So now we can deduce, "Helel son of Venus."
According to Greek mythology, Venuswas a prominent goddess. And through archetype and correlation, we parallel the goddess Venus to the goddesses Inanna, Ishtar, Athirat, and Asherah.
Now we deduce, "Helel son of Asherah/Athirat."
And as we know, Asherah is the consort of El. So we further deduce, "Helel, son of Asherah and El".
Looking again at Isaiah 14:12,... we must think about which son of Asherah/Athirat has his throne on Mount Zephon,... and who wants to usurp both El and Elyon.
We are now completely drawn to none other than Baal-Zephon, who is also Baal-Hadad, who is also Marduk, Zeus, Jupiter, and in conclusion, Yahweh.
Back to my original analysis, Yahweh, the son of El and Asherah, seeks to overthrow and usurp his father El and his grandfather Elyon. The same as Marduk usurping Enlil, Ea/Enki, and An/Anu,... the same as Zeus usurping Cronus and Uranus.
Helel is Baal, Marduk, Yahweh, Zeus, and Jupiter
 
Eiyer said:
Lakini tofauti na haya,kuna madai kuwa hii Israel tunayoiona leo sio ile ya kale,yaani ile ambayo iko kwenye maandiko ya Biblia,hii ni fake
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Mkuu, miaka ya 1950s, aliyekuwa rais wa misri (Nasser) alihutubia hadharani na kuwaambia settlers wa kiyahudi waliokuwa wanarejea Palestine kuwa hawatakaa waione amani kwa sababu WALIONDOKA PALESTINE WAKIWA BLACK PEOPLE NA WAMERUDI HALI YA KUWA NI WAZUNGU

Gamal Abdel Nasser - Wikiquote

ANCIENT ISRAEL WAS A BLACK PEOPLES NATION LOCATED IN THE BIBLICAL LAND GIVEN TO HAM (father of black races)
 
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