Rabi Leo Baeck ni nani kwa Israel?

Rabi Leo Baeck ni nani kwa Israel?

Read my post up there otherwise stay inside the box of Ignorance bcz if you want drag me into your trick of spoiling this thread discussion by turning it as debate between Christianity and Islam I will not go there. Poor little boy!

[h=3]Does Earth Spread Out Like Carpet (flat)?[/h]Quran 15: 19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon Mountains firm and immovable;


Quran 78: 6-7 Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, And the mountains as pegs (anchor)?


Allah was sure that earth is flat like a carpet and mountains are there to anchor the earth so that earth does not shake with us. Allah is really merciful scientist.
 

[h=3]Does Earth Spread Out Like Carpet (flat)?[/h]Quran 15: 19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon Mountains firm and immovable;


Quran 78: 6-7 Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, And the mountains as pegs (anchor)?


Allah was sure that earth is flat like a carpet and mountains are there to anchor the earth so that earth does not shake with us. Allah is really merciful scientist.


So.

Whats your point??

Everything is clear.
 
Thank you punjab.

Sylabuss zimewaharibu hawa vihiyo.

Mimi nikiwaona huwa nawahurumia sana.
So you don't know that in Iran there are churches and synagogues, there is even a Jewish MP in their Parliament. Don't you know that the Jews, Zorastans and Christians of Iran are living side by side and a enjoying their full.rights as citizens of Iran as their Persian Musliman brothers and Sisters?

Dont you know that in the Emirates the Immigrants has outnumbered the citizen by 5:1 and majority are Christians and where do they worship? There are Churces built in the Arab Gulf countries.

Where has Christianity started did it start in Mwanza or Bukoba? May be this guy is right:

Watch "The Problem Of The Black Race - James David Manning" on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzqbsAAa-k0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
Excellent, In fact it was for 40 days and Jesus shows off all the way, in contrast, Muhammad didn't even differentiate between the voice of Satan and Jibril and end up inciting Satanic Verses in the Quran. What a shame.

So, how many verses did Muhammad incite in the Quran and are from Satan? Why should a sane person trust him?
If you beliave jesus is god,how can satan tempt him,that he will give him all the good thing on earth while if true he was god satan would have knowledge that god is the creator of all the thing satan was tempting jesus with?.
that only means if the story is not fake then satan knew jesus wasnt god.
tena eti kuna story shetan akampandisha yesu juu ya mlima alikoweza kuona milki zote za dunia.which is impossible,kuna mlima gani palestina ambao ukipanda kileleni utaiona bagamoyo?
 
Hizo Kingdoms mbili zilianza wakati gani?
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Background
The experiment with the opulence and power of the great eastern kingdoms had ended in disaster for Israel. King Solomoncreated the wealthiest and most powerful central government the Hebrews would ever see, but he did so at an impossibly high cost. Land was given away to pay for his extravagances and people were sent into forced labor into Tyre in the north. When Solomondied, between 926 and 922 BCE, the ten northern tribes refused to submit to his son, Rehoboam, and revolted.
From this point on, there would be two kingdoms of Hebrews: in the north - Israel, and in the south - Judah. The Israelites formed their capital in the city of Samaria, and the Judaeans kept their capital in Jerusalem. These kingdoms remained separate states for over two hundred years.
The history of the both kingdoms is a litany of ineffective, disobedient, and corrupt kings. When the Hebrews had first asked for a king, in the book of Judges, they were told that only God was their king. When they approached Samuel the Prophet, he told them the desire for a king was an act of disobedience and that they would pay dearly if they established a monarchy. The history told in the Hebrew book, Kings, bears out Samuel's warning.
The Hebrew empire eventually collapses, Moab successfully revolts against Judah, and Ammonsuccessfully secedes from Israel. Within a century of Solomon's death, the kingdoms of Israeland Judahwere left as tiny little states - no bigger than Connecticut- on the larger map of the Middle East.
As history proved time and again in the region, tiny states never survived long. Located directly between the Mesopotamian kingdoms in the northeast and powerful Egyptin the southwest,
 
The Conquest of Israel
In 722 BC, the Assyriansconquered Israel. The Assyrians were aggressive and effective; the history of their dominance over the Middle East is a history of constant warfare. In order to assure that conquered territories would remain pacified, the Assyrians would force many of the native inhabitants to relocate to other parts of their empire. They almost always chose the upper and more powerful classes, for they had no reason to fear the general mass of a population. They would then send Assyrians to relocate in the conquered territory.
When they conquered Israel, they forced the ten tribes to scatter throughout their empire. For all practical purposes, you might consider this a proto- Diaspora("diaspora"="scattering"), except that these Israelites disappear from history permanently; they are called "the ten lost tribes of Israel." Why this happened is difficult to assess. The Assyrians did not settle the Israelites in one place, but scattered them in small populations all over the Middle East. When the Babylonianslater conquered Judah, they, too, relocate a massive amount of the population. However, they move that population to asinglelocation so that the Jews can set up a separate community and still retain their religion and identity. The Israelites deported by the Assyrians, however, do not live in separate communities and soon drop their Yahweh religion and their Hebrew names and identities.
 
The Conquest of Judah
"There but for the grace of god go I." Certainly, the conquest of Israel scared the people and monarchs of Judah. They barely escaped the Assyrian menace, but Judah would be conquered by the Chaldeansabout a century later. In 701, the Assyrian Sennacherib would gain territory from Judah, and the Jews would have suffered the same fate as the Israelites. But by 625 BC, the Babylonians, under Nabopolassar, would reassert control over Mesopotamia, and the Jewish king Josiah aggressively sought to extend his territory in the power vacuum that resulted. But Judah soon fell victim to the power struggles between Assyrians, Babylonians, and Egyptians. When Josiah's son, Jehoahaz, became king, the king of Egypt, Necho (put into power by the Assyrians), rushed into Judah and deposed him, and Judah became a tribute state of Egypt. When the Babylonians defeated the Egyptians in 605 BC, then Judah became a tribute state to Babylon. But when the Babylonians suffered a defeat in 601 BC, the king of Judah, Jehoiakim, defected to the Egyptians. So the Babylonian king, Nebuchadnezzar, raised an expedition to punish Judah in 597 BC. The new king of Judah, Jehoiachin, handed the city of Jerusalem over to Nebuchadnezzar, who then appointed a new king over Judah, Zedekiah. In line with Mesopotamian practice, Nebuchadnezzar deported around 10,000 Jews to his capital in Babylon; all the deportees were drawn from professionals, the wealthy, and craftsmen. Ordinary people were allowed to stay in Judah. This deportation was the beginning of the Exile.
The story should have ended there. However, Zedekiah defected from the Babylonians one more time. Nebuchadnezzar responded with another expedition in 588 and conquered Jerusalem in 586. Nebuchadnezzar caught Zedekiah and forced him to watch the murder of his sons; then he blinded him and deported him to Babylon. Again, Nebuchadnezzr deported the prominent citizens, but the number was far smaller than in 597: somewhere between 832 and 1577 people were deported.
The Hebrew kingdom, started with such promise and glory by David, was now at an end. It would never appear again, except for a brief time in the second century BC, and to the Jews forced to relocate and the Jews left to scratch out a living in their once proud kingdom, it seemed as if no Jewish nation would ever exist again. It also seemed as if the special bond that Yahweh had promised to the Hebrews, the covenant that the Hebrews would serve a special place in history, had been broken and forgotten by their god. This period of confusion and despair, a community together but homeless in the streets of Babylon, makes up one of the most significant historical periods in Jewish history: the Exi
 
If you beliave jesus is god,how can satan tempt him,that he will give him all the good thing on earth while if true he was god satan would have knowledge that god is the creator of all the thing satan was tempting jesus with?.
It is not I believe Jesus is God. It is a provable fact.

Just tell me, why was Allah misleading Satan?

Satan accuses Allah of deceiving or misleading him! Here is what the text in question exactly says:
[Iblis (Satan)] said: "O my Lord! Because you misled me (aghwaytanee), I shall indeed adorn the path of error for them (mankind) on the earth, and I shall mislead (walaoghwiyannahum) them all. S. 15:39
What kind of deity is Allah?


that only means if the story is not fake then satan knew jesus wasnt god.
Matthew 4: 7 Jesus answered him, "It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"

Satan did not dispute that Jesus is not God but stopped tempting Him.
tena eti kuna story shetan akampandisha yesu juu ya mlima alikoweza kuona milki zote za dunia.which is impossible,kuna mlima gani palestina ambao ukipanda kileleni utaiona bagamoyo?

[Iblis (Satan)] said: "By Your Might, then I will surely mislead (laoghwiyannahum) them all," S. 38:82
It is, therefore, clear from the foregoing that Satan was raising a serious charge against Allah's character by basically identifying him as one who perverts, deceives, or misleads people from the true path!
 
So.

Whats your point??

Everything is clear.

You offered no arguments or evidence to justify muhammadic belief.

[SIZE=+1]Who misleads people? Satan or Allah?[/SIZE]
According to verse 4:119-120, Satan (the rejected one) is the one who creates false desires and misleads people. Refer also 15:42. However, according to verse 16:93, it is God who leaves people astray as He wills! See also 4:78.
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"I will mislead them, and I will create in them false desires....." [SIZE=-1](says Satan)[/SIZE]
"Satan make them promises and creates in them false hopes...."[SIZE=-1](vouched by Allah)[/SIZE]
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[TD](16:93)
"If Allah so willed, He could make you all one people. But He leaves straying whom He pleases and He guides whom He pleases ...."
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You offered no arguments or evidence to justify muhammadic belief.

[SIZE=+1]Who misleads people? Satan or Allah?[/SIZE]
According to verse 4:119-120, Satan (the rejected one) is the one who creates false desires and misleads people. Refer also 15:42. However, according to verse 16:93, it is God who leaves people astray as He wills! See also 4:78.
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[TD](4:119-120)
"I will mislead them, and I will create in them false desires....." [SIZE=-1](says Satan)[/SIZE]
"Satan make them promises and creates in them false hopes...."[SIZE=-1](vouched by Allah)[/SIZE]
[/TD]
[TD](16:93)
"If Allah so willed, He could make you all one people. But He leaves straying whom He pleases and He guides whom He pleases ...."
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[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Vyovyote vile unavyotaka kuichukulia au kuiamin we ichukulie hivyo hivyo.

Then wait mwisho wake utajua haki iko wapi na batili iko wapi??

Wewe shida yako ni nn?huamin na huwez amin km ambavyo hawakuamin wazeee wako ambao hivi sasa wameshajifia na kuuuacha uislam waliokuwa wanaupiga vita ukiendelea kushamiri.

NASHANGAA UNASENA QUR AN NI SATANIC VERSES...TENA HUMO HUMO KWENYE SATANIC VERSES ZIWEPO VERSES ZINAZOMLAANI HUYO SATANI NA KUMWAMBIA KUWA ATAENDA KUUUNGUZWA JEHANNAM??

SASA SATANIC VERSES ZIPI ZINZOWEZA KUMTABIRIA MABAYA MWENYEWE??

ALLAH AMEMUUMBA MWANADAMU KISHA AKAMPA AKILI YA KUTAMBUA BAYA NA JEMA...AKAMPA AKILI YA KUTAMBUA UKWELI NA UWONGO.

KISHA AKAMTAHADHARISHA AKAE MBALI NA SHETANI KISHA AFUATE NJIA YAKE ILIYONYOOKA ALLAH.

SASA MTU KWA UTASHI WAKE AKIAMUA KUUFUATA UPOTOFU HIYO NI JUU YAKE.

THATS WHY ANASEMA HUMUONGOZA AMTAKAE I.E YULE ANAEFUATA MAAMRISHO YAKE NDIYE AMTAKAYE YEYE.

WEWE NA JAMAA ZAKO ENDELEENI KUKAIDI KADIR MUWEZAVYO..MWISHO WAKE MTAUJUA TUH.

MIMI BINAFSI HUWA SIBISHANI NA KAFIRI.

KAFIRI NI MTU DHAIFU AMBAE TAYARI AMESHASHINDWA.

HANA HOPE NA MAISHA YAJAYO...HANA MWONGOZO...HANA TUMAIN BAADA YA KUFA THATS WHY KAFIR YEYOTE HUOGOPA SANA KIFO.

KAFIR ANAMCHUKUA KINYAGO NA PICHA YAKE KISHA ANAKIABUDU NA KUKIIITA MUNGU?sasa mimi atanisumbua nin.

Infact mi nakuhurumia tuh.
 
Jamani ningepeda turudi kwenye mada maana sasa inataka kugeuka kuwa kitu kingine kabisa

Nawaombeni hayo mengie tuachane nayo jamani .....!
 
Mkuu Eiyer na wengineo;

nimekutana na video hii nikaona haitamdhuru yeyote kuichangia mawazo;










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Nimetazama video mkuu .....

Ndio yale yale ambayo tumekuwa tukihoji hapa kuhusiana na uwkeli wa asili na rangi ya Yesu pamoja na Wayahudi wote

Inaonekana hawa watu wanajua ukweli lakini wanaficha kwasababu mbali mbali ...!!
 
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Does Earth Spread Out Like Carpet (flat)?

Quran 15: 19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon Mountains firm and immovable;


Quran 78: 6-7 Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, And the mountains as pegs (anchor)?


Allah was sure that earth is flat like a carpet and mountains are there to anchor the earth so that earth does not shake with us. Allah is really merciful scientist.

Ishmael, at last nimegundua kuwa wewe ni KILAZA. Pia huna imagination.

Neno Earth halina maana moja. Soma hapa;


Ukichukua maana hii (soil, top soil etc), basi ile layer ya udongo juu ya miamba kuzungukia dunia nzima ni sawa na kama carpet lililotandazwa kufunika kitu.

Hiyo ya milima kuwa kama pegs na kuipa ardhi stability ni published scientific fact. Hatuna mjadala nayo. Issue hapa ni kuwa wewe unaongozwa na chuki na giza.

jisomee;
MOUNTAINS AS PEGS | Quran Miracles
 
Mkuu Eiyer na wengineo;

nimekutana na video hii nikaona haitamdhuru yeyote kuichangia mawazo;










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This is where people should understand what the white people with the help of the jews how are they manipulating the facts.
Take these examples:
White man found Mt. Kilimanjaro
White man found Mt. Amazon River & Forest
White man found Lake Victoria
Lawrence of Arabia is a White Man.

They never said tha Caeser Agustus is an Arab
They never said that Caeser Septemus was an African.
They never mention Princess Charlote of UK is of African descent.

Even in movies:
In Africa the Chimps took a lost white boy as their son to become Tarzan.

White man is a Hero Samurai than a Japanese one.

Kung fu martial art movies after Bruce Lee death became mostly white pple like Karate Kid etc.

White budhist monks.

In Wild West movies (cowboy movies) the vilains were always Mexicans
In Magic and Voodoo is always Black Magic and Witchdoctors were olways of dark skin.
Even the Undertacker is black so that even his face is in deep black void covered in black robes.

During the conquest from Middle East to the Far Eastern Asia and from Nothern to the the Sothern tip of Africa the local indigenous people were called savages by the so called Missionery Explorers and Invaders.

So the trend had been this way time immemorial.
 
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Nimetazama video mkuu .....

Ndio yale yale ambayo tumekuwa tukihoji hapa kuhusiana na uwkeli wa asili na rangi ya Yesu pamoja na Wayahudi wote

Inaonekana hawa watu wanajua ukweli lakini wanaficha kwasababu mbali mbali ...!!
Eiyer, the last time I refered you to the studies on Cushites, Amorites and Persian Kingdoms you Ignored me and you brought a friend to attach me.

Maybe you went through those links, I dont know only yourself you know but sometimes we bring or pick up some things in an argument that are out of context or irrelevant to ignore the subtance of the story.
 
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Duh......sijawahi soma majibizano humu JF kuanzia mwanzo mpk mwisho ila hapa nimejukuta nafika.........kiufupi niwashukuru run kwa darasa na elimu murua kabisa,japo Kila mtu kavutia upande wake lkn naamini ukweli umeonekana na Kila mmoja huko aliko anatafakari aanzie wapi.
 
Eiyer, the last time I refered you to the studies on Cushites, Amorites and Persian Kingdoms you Ignored me and you brought a friend to attach me.

Maybe you went through those links, I dont know only yourself you know but sometimes we bring or pick up some things in an argument that are out of context or irrelevant to ignore the subtance of the story.

Wakati mwingine napata shida sana kuunganisha unachokuwa unaandika na unae m-quote

Kwa mfano hapa,sijui hata unamaanisha nini kwenye unachoandika na nilichoandika

Kwenye mada hii inaonesha kwa ushahidi mkubwa sana kuwa Wayahudi na watu ambao waliishi mashariki ya kati walikuwa ni weusi

Kwa maana hiyo hata hao Wayahudi na Waisraeli nao pia walikuwa weusi

Nashindwa kuelewa kuna tatizo gani hapo hadi udai niliku ignore na kukuletea mtu mwingine

Unaweza kufafanua hapo? Au hukubaliani na hoja kuwa hao niliowataja walikuwa weusi kama mimi?
 
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